Dogs refuse to eat vegan "meat"...

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

If vegan meat exists then so do Democrat Republicans.

Abomination!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[hjmick]

Abomination!!!!!!!!!!!

No love is forbidden - The Oatmeal

A comic involving corn.

theoatmeal.com

 

[buttercup]

That does not make sense to me. If you follow the story of creation, all creatures were created in the form they are now in. That means that obligate carnivore would have starved in Eden lacking the teeth, enzymes and digestive systems to process plant material.

Absolutely and demonstrably false. The Garden of Eden, before sin came into the world, was basically paradise. Genesis 1:29-30 clearly states our God-given diet, and for both humans AND animals was completely plantbased.

And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so.​

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Genesis 1:29-30​

From a biblical perspective there wasn't even death in the world before sin, so in light of that, is absurd to say that animals and humans killed each other in paradise....before death was even introduced! Keep in mind, we are talking about God's original design. Not what happened later, due to the Fall of man when sin came into the world.

There is also the cycle of life that is interrupted when you delete an element. Predators kill an animal, but seldom consume it all. That leaves portions of it for scavengers: mammals like hyenas with specialized teeth and jaws and teeth for breaking bones, birds of many types, small mammals and insects. All eating meat because something has to break down a carcass. There are also other Great Families to consider: insects, fish, etc that are in the same cycles and it is perfectly tuned that losing an element can cause the system to crash.

When you look at something so perfect it’s impossible to imagine it so disrupted as it would be in your vision of Paradise. No population balancing. That is why my view trends towards paradise being that we are a part of this perfect incredible system that God created. Within the system we are close to God, outside of it, we are not.

You're describing the way the world is now. But Kathy was 100% correct when she said the way the world is now is NOT the way it was in the very beginning, from a biblical perspective. Of course you are free to believe what you want, and since you're not a Christian by your own admission, I wouldn't expect you to believe the biblical view.

But what you can't do is make a false claim about the biblical position, which you seem to be doing when you say the way the world is now is the way it has always been according to the bible. The exact opposite is true.

According to the bible, this is a fallen world. The bible even lists many of the changes that happened after the Fall of man, after sin came into the world, and it has gradually gotten even worse from there.

Don't get me wrong. Again, I don't expect you to believe this since you're not a Christian. But some of us have simply been stating the biblical view, and according to the bible, both humans and animals were herbivores in the very beginning, and one day when Jesus returns, that original Edenic world of peace and harmony will be restored, according to the prophetic scriptures.

Please read this passage below, about the future restored world:

The wolf will live with the lamb,​

and the leopard will lie down with the goat.​

The calf, the young lion, and the fatling will be together,​

and a child will lead them.​

The cow and the bear will graze,​

their young ones will lie down together,​

and the lion will eat straw like the ox.​

An infant will play beside the cobra’s pit,​

and a toddler will put his hand into a snake’s den.​

None will harm or destroy another​

on My entire holy mountain,​

for the land will be as full​

of the knowledge of the Lord​

as the sea is filled with water.​

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Isaiah 11:6-9​

 

[Road Runner]

Genesis 9:3-6. Look it up because I'm too lazy to type it up lol maybe we might have all started out as plant eaters and maybe we will be in Heaven too, but that doesn't mean that we are forbidden to eat meat now.

 

[buttercup]

Genesis 9:3-6. Look it up because I'm too lazy to type it up lol maybe we might have all started out as plant eaters and maybe we will be in Heaven too, but that doesn't mean that we are forbidden to eat meat now.

We were talking about God's original design. Which He is going to restore, according to the bible.

 

[Road Runner]

JohnDB and I are proud members of PETA.

P eople
E at
T asty
A nimals

 

[Road Runner]

We were talking about God's original design. Which He is going to restore, according to the bible.

I know, but I'm just putting the meat eating argument to end that it isn't a sin.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Genesis 9:3-6. Look it up because I'm too lazy to type it up lol maybe we might have all started out as plant eaters and maybe we will be in Heaven too, but that doesn't mean that we are forbidden to eat meat now.

But leftist vermin NEED to believe they are suffering and sacrificing so much so that they can validate the air that they breathe. They have to believe that they are good people, but deep inside they know better. Thus the long-winded dissertations about how wonderfully pristine and holy the non-meat eaters are.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

JohnDB and I are proud members of PETA.

P eople
E at
T asty
A nimals

Me too! Lifetime Charter Member!

 

[Road Runner]

Me too! Lifetime Charter Member!

They act like we're eating our cats and dogs or something.

 

[buttercup]

I know, but I'm just putting the meat eating argument to end that it isn't a sin.

Let me ask you this. Do you think supporting animal abuse is a sin?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

They act like we're eating our cats and dogs or something.

ikr?

 

[Road Runner]

Let me ask you this. Do you think supporting animal abuse is a sin?

No, but eating animals isn't abuse because God said we can and I pointed it out where He said it.

 

[buttercup]

No, but eating animals isn't abuse because God said we can and I pointed it out where He said it.

I wasn't talking about eating animals. My question was, do you think supporting animal abuse is a sin?

Is your answer no?

 

[Road Runner]

I wasn't talking about eating animals. My question was, do you think supporting animal abuse is a sin?

Is your answer no?

Oh I meant yes supporting animal abuse is a sin, I just didn't know how to form the answer.

 

[buttercup]

They act like we're eating our cats and dogs or something.

Pigs are even smarter than dogs, and just as social.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Pigs are even smarter than dogs, and just as social.

But are pigs refusing to eat the non-meat?

Maybe the topic is getting a little blurred.

 

[buttercup]

Oh I meant yes supporting animal abuse is a sin, I just didn't know how to form the answer.

Ok, thank you for your honest answer!

Well I'm truly sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but if you purchase meat and dairy, you are - whether you want to or not- paying for the abuse of animals that you most likely would never want to harm if you saw them face to face.

 

[Road Runner]

Pigs are even smarter than dogs, and just as social.

There's also nothing wrong with having pigs as pets, I just don't. Yeah, they're cute as I'll give them that much, but I don't feel guilty about the fact that I had bacon tonight unless I raised the pig it came from as a pet, but like I already said before,... I'm not a pig owning person.

 

[buttercup]

But are pigs refusing to eat the non-meat?

Maybe the topic is getting a little blurred.

The topic has completely morphed. It happens. The stuff we're talking about probably should've gone a new thread, but we just kept going on this one and it keeps morphing.