Doing The Right Thing: Trump Signals Medical Marijuana Fight

[Bush92]

If you think dems are the only party that uses marijuana daily or every once in a while you are sadly mistaken. I know judges, attorneys, doctor's and very successful executives that smoke it.

Thank you. I know some of those as well. It's a great tool for quickly achieving a relaxed state without the risks and after effects of alcohol use. I can competently operate a vehicle mildly stoned but would never drive after more than two drinks.

You should never operate a vehicle under the influence of anything.

Yep, even cell phones.

Being mildly stoned is not the same as drinking. My blood pressure meds can make me drowsy but I still need to be able to drive.
Probably half the people on the road at any given time are under the influence of something.

It is the same as drinking. Your reaction time and judgement is off.

No, not really. I find pot makes me more focused. Alcohol makes everyone sloppy.

Fooling yourself.

 

[Bush92]

Everyone truly believes they can stop using pot any time they want. They just don't. They are addicts. They really cannot function. Pot addicts like all addicts surely believe they can function normally.

BS.

Why do you insist on representing yourself as an authority about every subject and issue?

I'll bet you believe other posters believe you impossible lies that you're a medical doctor, a lawyer AND a dog washer.

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You made it up. Then like all democrats cling to your own lies. You're an example of how drugs affect a brain. Yours is mush. Stop lying.

Oh wait.

You're a Democrat. You can't.

If you think dems are the only party that uses marijuana daily or every once in a while you are sadly mistaken. I know judges, attorneys, doctor's and very successful executives that smoke it.

Thank you. I know some of those as well. It's a great tool for quickly achieving a relaxed state without the risks and after effects of alcohol use. I can competently operate a vehicle mildly stoned but would never drive after more than two drinks.

Driving stoned is Nature's Way of preventing road rage. You can't have one with the other.

If that's your opinion then why not shoot a big dose of herion. Hell you would be really calm.

 

[Pogo]

It's a fight he cannot possibly win. The momentum is on the side of the voices to legalize even more. What he should do is start preparing the nation and the people for a county failing under the weight of addictions.

Legalize it. But you have to grow your own. Shut down border with Mexico and get drug lords out of business. Make sure every state has roadside test for driving under influence. Allow employers to test during workday.

Can't do testing during the workday. Pot stays in the system up to 30 days. You smoke in the evening, it's still in your system, although no longer affecting you, the next day at work.

That's another reason pee tests are such colossal bullshit that need to be abolished yesterday. Completely aside from being a blatant disregard of the Fourth Amendment, it's bullshit reasoning. If employers were truly interested in "workplace safety", all they'd need to do would be to administer a simple reflex-timing test. It would cost next to nothing, it would produce results in literally seconds, and it would flag any worker who's under par whether it's from cannabis..... fatigue/lack of sleep...... alcohol or alcohol hangover..... distraction from their personal life......... oncoming illness even one the worker may not be aware of .... or any other reason.

IF they were actually looking for worker safety. But of course that's not what they're after --- they're after ABC --- Authoritarian Behavior Control. They see an opportunity to play the role of Big Brother and they want a piece of it.

That's why every citizen should stand up for his/her Fourth Amendment right and flatly refuse to give 'em the inch they want while they drool over the mile they'll get. People need to quit rolling over for this intrusive shit.

The legal aspect that is claimed for pee test not violating the 4th is: You are freely giving up the urine, they just want a little sample...

I never freely give up my bodily fluids without at least dinner and a movie.
Now if a prospective employer wants to treat me to a fine five-course French repast with Dom Perignon, perhaps we'll negotiate.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Unconstitutional...

Legalize it and get government out of our lives.

Matt the Libertarian

He is one confused individual. At times he sounds far right,far left and now libertarian.

matt goes which ever way the wind is blowing about whatever subject he is commenting on....

 

[Moonglow]

It's a fight he cannot possibly win. The momentum is on the side of the voices to legalize even more. What he should do is start preparing the nation and the people for a county failing under the weight of addictions.

Legalize it. But you have to grow your own. Shut down border with Mexico and get drug lords out of business. Make sure every state has roadside test for driving under influence. Allow employers to test during workday.

Can't do testing during the workday. Pot stays in the system up to 30 days. You smoke in the evening, it's still in your system, although no longer affecting you, the next day at work.

That's another reason pee tests are such colossal bullshit that need to be abolished yesterday. Completely aside from being a blatant disregard of the Fourth Amendment, it's bullshit reasoning. If employers were truly interested in "workplace safety", all they'd need to do would be to administer a simple reflex-timing test. It would cost next to nothing, it would produce results in literally seconds, and it would flag any worker who's under par whether it's from cannabis..... fatigue/lack of sleep...... alcohol or alcohol hangover..... distraction from their personal life......... oncoming illness even one the worker may not be aware of .... or any other reason.

IF they were actually looking for worker safety. But of course that's not what they're after --- they're after ABC --- Authoritarian Behavior Control. They see an opportunity to play the role of Big Brother and they want a piece of it.

That's why every citizen should stand up for his/her Fourth Amendment right and flatly refuse to give 'em the inch they want while they drool over the mile they'll get. People need to quit rolling over for this intrusive shit.

The legal aspect that is claimed for pee test not violating the 4th is: You are freely giving up the urine, they just want a little sample...

I never freely give up my bodily fluids without at least dinner and a movie.
Now if a prospective employer wants to treat me to a fine five-course French repast with Dom Perignon, perhaps we'll negotiate.

The only time I will offer is if it's a golden shower event..

 

[Pogo]

BS.

Why do you insist on representing yourself as an authority about every subject and issue?

I'll bet you believe other posters believe you impossible lies that you're a medical doctor, a lawyer AND a dog washer.

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You made it up. Then like all democrats cling to your own lies. You're an example of how drugs affect a brain. Yours is mush. Stop lying.

Oh wait.

You're a Democrat. You can't.

If you think dems are the only party that uses marijuana daily or every once in a while you are sadly mistaken. I know judges, attorneys, doctor's and very successful executives that smoke it.

Thank you. I know some of those as well. It's a great tool for quickly achieving a relaxed state without the risks and after effects of alcohol use. I can competently operate a vehicle mildly stoned but would never drive after more than two drinks.

Driving stoned is Nature's Way of preventing road rage. You can't have one with the other.

If that's your opinion then why not shoot a big dose of herion. Hell you would be really calm.

Because (a) heroin is addictive, and (b) I don't inject myself with anything.

 

[debbiedowner]

Heroin is from a simple plant too.

We will not survive as a nation of stoners. Rather than fight a losing battle over drug addiction, the president should exercise leadership and prepare the nation for a worthless future.

Heroin is processed from a simple plant. The plant is the opium poppy.
Cannabis is not processed --- it IS the plant. And it has no "addiction".

Now shoot yourself in the face for being a wackball.

Everyone truly believes they can stop using pot any time they want. They just don't. They are addicts. They really cannot function. Pot addicts like all addicts surely believe they can function normally.

really?...i stopped after many a year,and i just stopped.....once again tipsys tales of the madness....

I stopped around age 42, someone I work with gave me one on my 50th birthday and didn't smoke again until 2 years ago and now only on and off and haven't had any in a few months. I have some client's that if for the life of me could remember their names I could get it from and trust. I just hope they show up at office soon to ask me about their plans. They are 69 and 70, in a motorcycle club with mostly retired vets from Vice Admiral down to E-6's and they all grow their own and smoke it. Try to tell a retired vet they can't smoke it? I'm a vet just not a retired one.

 

[Moonglow]

BS.

Why do you insist on representing yourself as an authority about every subject and issue?

I'll bet you believe other posters believe you impossible lies that you're a medical doctor, a lawyer AND a dog washer.

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You made it up. Then like all democrats cling to your own lies. You're an example of how drugs affect a brain. Yours is mush. Stop lying.

Oh wait.

You're a Democrat. You can't.

If you think dems are the only party that uses marijuana daily or every once in a while you are sadly mistaken. I know judges, attorneys, doctor's and very successful executives that smoke it.

Thank you. I know some of those as well. It's a great tool for quickly achieving a relaxed state without the risks and after effects of alcohol use. I can competently operate a vehicle mildly stoned but would never drive after more than two drinks.

Driving stoned is Nature's Way of preventing road rage. You can't have one with the other.

If that's your opinion then why not shoot a big dose of herion. Hell you would be really calm.

Dat shit be nasty, how is puking fun? It reminds me of booze...

 

[Bush92]

It's a fight he cannot possibly win. The momentum is on the side of the voices to legalize even more. What he should do is start preparing the nation and the people for a county failing under the weight of addictions.

Legalize it. But you have to grow your own. Shut down border with Mexico and get drug lords out of business. Make sure every state has roadside test for driving under influence. Allow employers to test during workday.

Can't do testing during the workday. Pot stays in the system up to 30 days. You smoke in the evening, it's still in your system, although no longer affecting you, the next day at work.

That's another reason pee tests are such colossal bullshit that need to be abolished yesterday. Completely aside from being a blatant disregard of the Fourth Amendment, it's bullshit reasoning. If employers were truly interested in "workplace safety", all they'd need to do would be to administer a simple reflex-timing test. It would cost next to nothing, it would produce results in literally seconds, and it would flag any worker who's under par whether it's from cannabis..... fatigue/lack of sleep...... alcohol or alcohol hangover..... distraction from their personal life......... oncoming illness even one the worker may not be aware of .... or any other reason.

IF they were actually looking for worker safety. But of course that's not what they're after --- they're after ABC --- Authoritarian Behavior Control. They see an opportunity to play the role of Big Brother and they want a piece of it.

That's why every citizen should stand up for his/her Fourth Amendment right and flatly refuse to give 'em the inch they want while they drool over the mile they'll get. People need to quit rolling over for this intrusive shit.

The legal aspect that is claimed for pee test not violating the 4th is: You are freely giving up the urine, they just want a little sample...

I never freely give up my bodily fluids without at least dinner and a movie.
Now if a prospective employer wants to treat me to a fine five-course French repast with Dom Perignon, perhaps we'll negotiate.

They do not have to. You work for them and they pay you. Have to conform to their standards.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Legalizing marijuana would be the worst thing to happen to our race at this point and time... The MSM is promoting marijuana legalization exactly for that reason: Lots of ambivalent, tuned-out, zoned-out Whites, and another vice industry the jews would surely eventually control and reap huge profits from to fund their anti-White agenda.


Trump Spurns Congress as He Signals Medical Marijuana Fight

But alcohol is legal, and it also turns people into zombies.

Belligerent ones too. Belligerent ones who want to do violent stuff like shoot pot smokers in the face.

Which should be legal.

you would be among the first casualties...

 

[Moonglow]

Heroin is from a simple plant too.

We will not survive as a nation of stoners. Rather than fight a losing battle over drug addiction, the president should exercise leadership and prepare the nation for a worthless future.

Heroin is processed from a simple plant. The plant is the opium poppy.
Cannabis is not processed --- it IS the plant. And it has no "addiction".

Now shoot yourself in the face for being a wackball.

Everyone truly believes they can stop using pot any time they want. They just don't. They are addicts. They really cannot function. Pot addicts like all addicts surely believe they can function normally.

really?...i stopped after many a year,and i just stopped.....once again tipsys tales of the madness....

I stopped around age 42, someone I work with gave me one on my 50th birthday and didn't smoke again until 2 years ago and now only on and off and haven't had any in a few months. I have some client's that if for the life of me could remember their names I could get it from and trust. I just hope they show up at office soon to ask me about their plans. They are 69 and 70, in a motorcycle club with mostly retired vets from Vice Admiral down to E-6's and they all grow their own and smoke it. Try to tell a retired vet they can't smoke it? I'm a vet just not a retired one.

My Mom get's it from her plumber, hmm, does that sound right?

 

[Bush92]

You made it up. Then like all democrats cling to your own lies. You're an example of how drugs affect a brain. Yours is mush. Stop lying.

Oh wait.

You're a Democrat. You can't.

If you think dems are the only party that uses marijuana daily or every once in a while you are sadly mistaken. I know judges, attorneys, doctor's and very successful executives that smoke it.

Thank you. I know some of those as well. It's a great tool for quickly achieving a relaxed state without the risks and after effects of alcohol use. I can competently operate a vehicle mildly stoned but would never drive after more than two drinks.

Driving stoned is Nature's Way of preventing road rage. You can't have one with the other.

If that's your opinion then why not shoot a big dose of herion. Hell you would be really calm.

Because (a) heroin is addictive, and (b) I don't inject myself with anything.

You inject yourself with motor skill inhibitors via pot smoke? Pot is addictive. Just like any other drug including alcohol.

 

[Pogo]

Legalize it. But you have to grow your own. Shut down border with Mexico and get drug lords out of business. Make sure every state has roadside test for driving under influence. Allow employers to test during workday.

Can't do testing during the workday. Pot stays in the system up to 30 days. You smoke in the evening, it's still in your system, although no longer affecting you, the next day at work.

That's another reason pee tests are such colossal bullshit that need to be abolished yesterday. Completely aside from being a blatant disregard of the Fourth Amendment, it's bullshit reasoning. If employers were truly interested in "workplace safety", all they'd need to do would be to administer a simple reflex-timing test. It would cost next to nothing, it would produce results in literally seconds, and it would flag any worker who's under par whether it's from cannabis..... fatigue/lack of sleep...... alcohol or alcohol hangover..... distraction from their personal life......... oncoming illness even one the worker may not be aware of .... or any other reason.

IF they were actually looking for worker safety. But of course that's not what they're after --- they're after ABC --- Authoritarian Behavior Control. They see an opportunity to play the role of Big Brother and they want a piece of it.

That's why every citizen should stand up for his/her Fourth Amendment right and flatly refuse to give 'em the inch they want while they drool over the mile they'll get. People need to quit rolling over for this intrusive shit.

Cops to Get ‘Potalyzers’ for Roadside Marijuana Tests – High Times
Again...they soon will have a test they can administer during workday. Should not be drunk or high at work.

Yeah I'm afraid that's bullshit. Your link describes an instrument that supposedly can test for THC levels. That's an entirely different thing from testing for "impairment". That can't be quantified like blood-alcohol level, which itself will vary person to person.

From the same link:

>> Furthermore, the question of “marijuana-impaired driving” is widely misunderstood. A recent study from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) found that high drivers are much safer than those who drive drunk. The Washington Post summarized the study thusly: “After adjusting for age, gender, race and alcohol use, drivers who tested positive for marijuana were no more likely to crash than who had not used any drugs or alcohol prior to driving.” <<​

See post 134 for what a legitimate test means as opposed to playing with a chemistry set. A roadside reflex test could identify, say, a driver who's been awake too long, a drunk, a (legal) drug reaction or anything else. Playing with chemicals is just playing with chemicals. It's meaningless..

And it's worth noting that the fascist asshole who instigated this intrusive pee test bullshit is the guy in your avatar.

But crash they did...in the same numbers as alcohol users. Remember my post was from High Times magazine. Think they have a bias?

No they did NOT. Learn how to read, especially your own link.

Maybe a whole paragraph was too much for you. Again for you slow kids: "(NHTSA) found that high drivers are much safer than those who drive drunk. .... drivers who tested positive for marijuana were no more likely to crash".

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It's a fight he cannot possibly win. The momentum is on the side of the voices to legalize even more. What he should do is start preparing the nation and the people for a county failing under the weight of addictions.

Legalize it. But you have to grow your own. Shut down border with Mexico and get drug lords out of business. Make sure every state has roadside test for driving under influence. Allow employers to test during workday.

Can't do testing during the workday. Pot stays in the system up to 30 days. You smoke in the evening, it's still in your system, although no longer affecting you, the next day at work.

That's another reason pee tests are such colossal bullshit that need to be abolished yesterday. Completely aside from being a blatant disregard of the Fourth Amendment, it's bullshit reasoning. If employers were truly interested in "workplace safety", all they'd need to do would be to administer a simple reflex-timing test. It would cost next to nothing, it would produce results in literally seconds, and it would flag any worker who's under par whether it's from cannabis..... fatigue/lack of sleep...... alcohol or alcohol hangover..... distraction from their personal life......... oncoming illness even one the worker may not be aware of .... or any other reason.

IF they were actually looking for worker safety. But of course that's not what they're after --- they're after ABC --- Authoritarian Behavior Control. They see an opportunity to play the role of Big Brother and they want a piece of it.

That's why every citizen should stand up for his/her Fourth Amendment right and flatly refuse to give 'em the inch they want while they drool over the mile they'll get. People need to quit rolling over for this intrusive shit.

Cops to Get ‘Potalyzers’ for Roadside Marijuana Tests – High Times
Again...they soon will have a test they can administer during workday. Should not be drunk or high at work.

Yeah I'm afraid that's bullshit. Your link describes an instrument that supposedly can test for THC levels. That's an entirely different thing from testing for "impairment". That can't be quantified like blood-alcohol level, which itself will vary person to person.

From the same link:

>> Furthermore, the question of “marijuana-impaired driving” is widely misunderstood. A recent study from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) found that high drivers are much safer than those who drive drunk. The Washington Post summarized the study thusly: “After adjusting for age, gender, race and alcohol use, drivers who tested positive for marijuana were no more likely to crash than who had not used any drugs or alcohol prior to driving.” <<​

See post 134 for what a legitimate test means as opposed to playing with a chemistry set. A roadside reflex test could identify, say, a driver who's been awake too long, a drunk, a (legal) drug reaction or anything else. Playing with chemicals is just playing with chemicals. It's meaningless..

And it's worth noting that the fascist asshole who instigated this intrusive pee test bullshit is the guy in your avatar.

That could never be an accurate test. THC is stored in fat cells. A lean person could smoke twice as much and have a lower THC count.

 

[Moonglow]

If you think dems are the only party that uses marijuana daily or every once in a while you are sadly mistaken. I know judges, attorneys, doctor's and very successful executives that smoke it.

Thank you. I know some of those as well. It's a great tool for quickly achieving a relaxed state without the risks and after effects of alcohol use. I can competently operate a vehicle mildly stoned but would never drive after more than two drinks.

Driving stoned is Nature's Way of preventing road rage. You can't have one with the other.

If that's your opinion then why not shoot a big dose of herion. Hell you would be really calm.

Because (a) heroin is addictive, and (b) I don't inject myself with anything.

You inject yourself with motor skill inhibitors via pot smoke? Pot is addictive. Just like any other drug including alcohol.

Pot is addictive to those that have a addictive personality, yet, just like booze drinkers, only 1 in 6 are alcoholics..

 

[Bush92]

Heroin is from a simple plant too.

We will not survive as a nation of stoners. Rather than fight a losing battle over drug addiction, the president should exercise leadership and prepare the nation for a worthless future.

Heroin is processed from a simple plant. The plant is the opium poppy.
Cannabis is not processed --- it IS the plant. And it has no "addiction".

Now shoot yourself in the face for being a wackball.

Everyone truly believes they can stop using pot any time they want. They just don't. They are addicts. They really cannot function. Pot addicts like all addicts surely believe they can function normally.

really?...i stopped after many a year,and i just stopped.....once again tipsys tales of the madness....

I stopped around age 42, someone I work with gave me one on my 50th birthday and didn't smoke again until 2 years ago and now only on and off and haven't had any in a few months. I have some client's that if for the life of me could remember their names I could get it from and trust. I just hope they show up at office soon to ask me about their plans. They are 69 and 70, in a motorcycle club with mostly retired vets from Vice Admiral down to E-6's and they all grow their own and smoke it. Try to tell a retired vet they can't smoke it? I'm a vet just not a retired one.

My Mom get's it from her plumber, hmm, does that sound right?

Is she letting him work her pipes as payment?

 

[Pogo]

Heroin is from a simple plant too.

We will not survive as a nation of stoners. Rather than fight a losing battle over drug addiction, the president should exercise leadership and prepare the nation for a worthless future.

Heroin is processed from a simple plant. The plant is the opium poppy.
Cannabis is not processed --- it IS the plant. And it has no "addiction".

Now shoot yourself in the face for being a wackball.

Everyone truly believes they can stop using pot any time they want. They just don't. They are addicts. They really cannot function. Pot addicts like all addicts surely believe they can function normally.

really?...i stopped after many a year,and i just stopped.....once again tipsys tales of the madness....

I stopped around age 42, someone I work with gave me one on my 50th birthday and didn't smoke again until 2 years ago and now only on and off and haven't had any in a few months. I have some client's that if for the life of me could remember their names I could get it from and trust. I just hope they show up at office soon to ask me about their plans. They are 69 and 70, in a motorcycle club with mostly retired vets from Vice Admiral down to E-6's and they all grow their own and smoke it. Try to tell a retired vet they can't smoke it? I'm a vet just not a retired one.

My Mom get's it from her plumber, hmm, does that sound right?

Plumbers --- they lay pipe, don't they?
They uh, plumb the depths...

 

[Iceweasel]

Booze can create problems if you overdo it. The main problem with pot is it makes you think you are much smarter than you are. Potheads talk jiberish and think they just changed the world. Tax dollars? Give me a break. If they take in a billion they will distribute it to various social programs and the streets will keep falling apart.

and how many people over do booze ice?...quite a few ...

Yep, but it doesn't alter their world view unless they are hard core alkies. Pot changes you.

 

[Harry Dresden]

It's a fight he cannot possibly win. The momentum is on the side of the voices to legalize even more. What he should do is start preparing the nation and the people for a county failing under the weight of addictions.

--- and then shoot 'em all in the face, right?

Member that shit?

As long as they are shot, whether it's in the face doesn't mean much. A head shot is the cleanest and least painful.

So you would murder your fellow senior's who use it for pain? But turn around and tell them to take opiates? Correct?

People use pot to get high there is no other purpose. If a person cannot get through the day without being high put them out of their misery.

and yet you have said people who drink dont do it to get that alcohol buzz,right?.....which is bullshit....

 

[debbiedowner]

Heroin is from a simple plant too.

We will not survive as a nation of stoners. Rather than fight a losing battle over drug addiction, the president should exercise leadership and prepare the nation for a worthless future.

Heroin is processed from a simple plant. The plant is the opium poppy.
Cannabis is not processed --- it IS the plant. And it has no "addiction".

Now shoot yourself in the face for being a wackball.

Everyone truly believes they can stop using pot any time they want. They just don't. They are addicts. They really cannot function. Pot addicts like all addicts surely believe they can function normally.

BS.

Why do you insist on representing yourself as an authority about every subject and issue?

I'll bet you believe other posters believe you impossible lies that you're a medical doctor, a lawyer AND a dog washer.

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she has some great hilarious stories about how pot users are.....

Yep, I am sharpening up my axe right now because my drunk neighbor's pissed me off, I am going to take care of this problem in a few minutes. I am so screwed up I put cremora in my coffee this morning instead of half and half. Shit last night instead of tortilla chips I used potato chips to make a taco salad.

Yep my wife raised her voice to me and I got up and body slammed her just like WWE.

Yep last time i smoked I stole a case of chocolate chip cookies and ate the whole damn thing.