U2Edge
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You can post lies, but don't expect anyone to believe them.As Trump voters and spin doctors gear up to spin the individual behind the complaint is a spy and traitor let me clear this up quickly and even if Trump is impeached by the House the Senate will not convict and remove.
Let calm the conversation down and also to those calling the individual a spy and traitor it is not against the law to file a complaint through the proper channels.
Now had the individual done what Snowden did then maybe you could make a case the individual is a spy and a traitor but they did not.
The individual need to go public and face the nation and realize their career in the government is over and they might have to move from the United States or at least live in more Progressive parts of the Country like California, New York or Oregon.
The individual need to face those they are accusing and if their information is based on being a political plant then they need to face the reality they are ruined more than being someone telling the truth.
Before those of you that support Trump call me a commie pig let be clear I hate Trump but I am fair with my looking at both sides and have stated many times if there is something Impeach and Convict but if there is nothing this will kill the Democrats in 2020.
Let the House do their investigation and let Pelosi play her hand and in the end Trump will stay as President but let me be clear this will not hurt Trump as much as the left believe it but it could hurt Warren chance in 2020 if she had any chance...
That is all I have to say now...
With the lowest average approval rating of any President in history after nearly 3 years in office, Trump has little chance of winning against any of the Democratic nominees. Again, he has been defeated by BIDEN in 45 of 46 different polls taken of a BIDEN vs Trump race in 2020.
Trump will likely be impeached because the evidence in this case is so obvious. A clear lack of concern for key U.S. national security issues in Ukraine and a willingness to hold up Anti-Tank Missiles meant for the Ukrainian military in order to try and dig up a dirt on a political opponent. Clear evidence that Trump is willing to sell United States national security in order to remain as President for another four years. That is indeed treason.
So the only question is how many Republicans in the Senate want to go down with Trump's sinking ship? How many Republicans in the Senate want to defend Trump's actions selling U.S. national security interest for his own personal gain? While its an uphill battle to get 20 Republican Senators to convict Trump, its far from impossible. Many Republicans are going to start to recognize that their chances politically in 2020 will be improved if Trump is not around.
1. Trump has the lowest approval rating in history?? Lie#1, please see chart below, Trump is has a higher approval than Obama at this point
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2. Joe Biden is all but gone. His extortion of the Ukraine, Hunter's $50,000 a month, plus the China $1.5b puts Joe on ice. 0 - 3.
3. Even if the democrats impeach Trump the senate would acquit by a straight party vote 53-47, then Trump wins in a landslide. Senators know the impeachment is partisan bullshit, no crime was committed, unlike Bill Clinton's perjury and obstruction.
He has the lowest AVERAGE approval Rating in history based on the GALLUP poll which has been doing Presidential approval polls all the way back to 1940:
The gallup poll has been measuring Presidential approval ratings since the 1940s, longer than any other company or organization involved in polling. Here is how the Presidents rank:
OVERALL AVERAGE APPROVAL RATING WHILE PRESIDENT:
John F. Kennedy - 70%
Dwight D. Eisenhower - 65%
George H.W. Bush - 61%
Lyndon B. Johnson - 55%
Bill Clinton - 55%
Ronald Reagan - 53%
George W. Bush - 49%
Richard Nixon - 49%
Barack Obama - 48%
Gerald Ford - 47%
Jimmy Carter - 46%
Harry S. Truman - 45%
Donald J. Trump - 40%
Joe BIDEN and his son did not do anything wrong. A Ukrainian Prosecutor was removed who was not doing his job. He was not prosecuting ANYONE. If BIDEN and his son were guilty of something, it would have been in their interest NOT to fire the Prosecutor because the prosecutor was not prosecuting ANYONE!
I agree Democrats will have an uphill battle in the Senate, but this will not be a straight party vote in the Senate. There will be some Republican Senators that will agree with the evidence. The question will be if they can get 20 Senators or not. Its and uphill challenge, but not impossible. Trump is not immune from being removed from office just because Republicans have a majority in the Senate.
You are going to need more than the Ukraine phone call to get the Senate to Convict and Remove.
I have stated at this time in many of my comments about this impeachment inquiry and believe me I know about the investigation that is going on about Trump using his motel's for possible kickbacks and if proven that could up the chances to convict.
I also have read about the phone Conversations between Australia and England but nothing there to truly say " need to convict "...
We must remember Trump was never supposed to win according to every poll ( except Rasmussen ) so polls this early tell me not to even bother unless I am going to read what the swing and independent voter feel at the moment.
I am just going to say if he is not impeached, convicted and removed then expect him, his spin doctors and supporters fight for him to win.
Biden is done and not because of the Ukraine nonsense but he is mentally showing his age.
Warren is the Democrats choice for 2020...
She will lose in my opinion no matter what poll you show now and yes she is weaker than Hillary Clinton...
Wish the left would just have Gavin Newsom run...
Actually, I think the phone call will be more than enough. But don't worry, the Whistleblower will testify soon and will have more to bring to the table. The inspector General of the State Department is testifying before 8 different Senate and House committees today with urgent information on Ukraine. Various other State Department employees will be testifying in the coming weeks. Mike Pompeo and others could be guilty of obstruction of justice. Anyone that blocks the investigation or refuses to submit documents or appear before congress will be guilty of obstruction justice as well.
What is also terribly disgusting is the Donald Trump suggested that the Whistleblower was spy and should be executed. That's not going to sit well with any Republican Senator.