Don't like Obama, fine, but why the dishonesty?

[WillowTree]

didn't the two chimps each spend about half?

 

[Dr Grump]

or maybe that 75K could have gone to two machinists who were laid off....and have the same affect.

Not to mention that the 75K went to a Professor with tenure...making a nice salary...and not in jeopardy of losing his job.....and instead decided to use his spare time to inject monkeys with cocaine and see what happens....at the cost of two machinists with children but no job.

Sorry...even the school said...."huh"?

What two machinists? And were the y necessary or had their jobs gone to Indonesia?

My point was, the money has not disappeared into the ether - it's out in the economy somewhere....

 

[drsmith1072]

It was a version of leave 0bama alone and STFU. Poor guy can't catch a break with Ayers and Wright. He is just trying to help the economy. Blah, blah, blah.

You can't put the country into a $14b. deficit and "help" the economy Dr Gregg. You also will not win a war with a planned exit date. Can't make people buy insurance either.

This post is precisely the sort of dishonesty he's talking about.

Obama didn't "Put" the country in a $14t deficit. It was over $11t when he walked in, and the economy was in shambles... Tax revenues were waaaaay down due to stagnating economic activity. ANYONE elected would be facing a massive deficit right now. Also the federal debt now, today, is $12.5t, not 14...

And that TOO is dishonest.

The economy was not in shambles.

So you are saying "that TOO is dishonest" because cuyo used a word to describe it that you don't agree with?? LOL You really need to get a dictionary, as I suggested earlier in this thread, and look up a few words. LOL

We are in a recession.

shambles works fine to describe an economy in recession

shambles: any scene, place, or thing in disorder

Would an economy that was in order be in a recession?

Obama made it seem like a catastrophy.

I am sure that, to the minority republicans who were trying to find a scape goat for their ineptitude, it SEEMED like obama made it SEEM like a catastrophy. LOL You guys see what you want to see.

We were, and now still are in a recession.
The longest recession in modern history was the lost decade of Japan......and what did they determine created such a long recession? Too much efort by the Japanese government to stimulate the economy.

What does japan have to do with the USA??

Oh and I think you avoided the crux of cuyo's post and chose to focus on your belief that he misused a word. LOL

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Not to mention that the taxes increase immediately and the most costly benefits go into affect in 4 years....
So that beingt said, it will most certasinly be deficit negative by the second decade...unless taxes are increased above and beyond the first increase.
Furthermore, and the CBO concurs with this....their fiugures are based on the scenarios painted out by the WH....and that is including the theory that a half a trillion in fraud will be found in Medicare.....which, of course, if it were so easy, why didnt they cut that out years ago?

I mean...a half a trillion?

Oh, i agree. There's no way it'll end up being deficit positive or even neutral, never mind the drastic changes it'll trigger in the health insurance industry.

Tens of thousands will lose their jobs who work for insurance companies.

Tens of thousands will lose their jobs due to green initiatives.

I fear where we wil be 3 years from now.

A broken and destroyed Nation of slaves.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Do you mind my asking...did you voter for Obama?

Yes.

I ask as his entire platform was based on blaming the other guys...so if that is your true sentiment, then why did you vote for him...(assuming you did)?

Palin. And McCain's plan for health insurance reform.

I was split on which I would vote for right up to the moment that Palin started talking. At the end of the day, there wasn't much difference between McCain's platform and Obama's. McCain's two big issues were Iraq (and Bush stabbed him in the back on that one) and his plan for Health Care Reform.

I'd add, I have a lot of family members and friends that never once voted for a Democrat in their life that voted for Obama. To a one, when asked why, they always gave Palin as an answer. I'm not sure I want an Obama 2nd term, but if the GOP runs Palin, I'll vote for him again.

LMAO...if Palin is the GOP candidate, I may vote for Obama as well!
I am a conservative....but I am not an idiot. I know very little truth about Palin but the obvious disdain for her by half of Americans, warranted or not, in itself would make her an ineffective President.

Likewise, the disdain for Obama by many, warranted or not, is, in my eyes, contributing to his lack of effectiveness.

Only my opinion...so dont jump down my throat...but if you do jump down my throat, say hey to my wife. She seems to spend a lot of time down there.

Sorry I have to disagree, my dog would be better than a second term by Obama, I would hold my nose and again vote for the lesser of the evils. I do not believe we would survive 8 years of this administration.

 

[Titanic Sailor]

What chimp are we talking about? Bush or Obama?

 

[oreo]

There are plenty things that people could find Obama not doing a good job in.So why do so many on this forum and other places have to lie, exaggerate, and make shit up about Obama? Why call him socialist, marxist, the "messiah", "owebama", claim he isn't a US citizen, claims he want to destroy america? or claim things done by other people is really Obama's doing, and anything that goes on in the gov't or military is under Obama's direction?

YOu totally discredit any point you may have when you resort to such Glenn Beck/Rush type absurd attacks and arguments. You just look like some stupid, childish, partisan hack nutjob when you do so.

Have you been asleep since the election of November 2008? And just decided to wake up & post a comment?

I imagine it has alot to do with this. Like breaking more campaign promises than I still have coins in my pocket.

 

[Cuyo]

Yeah, merely a coincidence that the unemployment rates continue to rise in the states with the most liberal unemployment insurance policies?

Nah, I doubt it.

Spam.

NEXT!

 

[Coyote]

There are plenty things that people could find Obama not doing a good job in.So why do so many on this forum and other places have to lie, exaggerate, and make shit up about Obama? Why call him socialist, marxist, the "messiah", "owebama", claim he isn't a US citizen, claims he want to destroy america? or claim things done by other people is really Obama's doing, and anything that goes on in the gov't or military is under Obama's direction?

YOu totally discredit any point you may have when you resort to such Glenn Beck/Rush type absurd attacks and arguments. You just look like some stupid, childish, partisan hack nutjob when you do so.

Have you been asleep since the election of November 2008? And just decided to wake up & post a comment?

I imagine it has alot to do with this. Like breaking more campaign promises than I still have coins in my pocket.

View attachment 9659

Have you ever considered deviating from the rightwing talking points...even a little?

I suggest you check the facts:
Campaign Promises broken = 16
Campaign Promises kept = 96


Now maybe you don't have 16 coins in your pocket...I'll grant you that.

 

[gautama]

Yeah, merely a coincidence that the unemployment rates continue to rise in the states with the most liberal unemployment insurance policies?

Nah, I doubt it.

Spam.

NEXT!

Spam ?

Just because you post a pro-MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami's phonied up Unemployment Chart ? :eusa_hand......

You are simply underlining the MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami's BULLSHIT.

Check out CALIFORNIA's unemployment....one of the Liberal Unemployment Policies that had to resort to ~40% increase in Health Care costs to rectify at least the HC excesses in the across the board liberal excesses.

BTW, those Health Care costs had to be rectified primarily because of the liberal stance towards the costs generated by the illegal wetbacks in "SANCTUARY CITIES" such as San Francisco and that wetback haven LA.

NEXT......

 

[Wicked Jester]

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports

Sometimes ya' just have to give these lefty's a lil' dose of REALITY!

 

[gautama]

There are plenty things that people could find Obama not doing a good job in.So why do so many on this forum and other places have to lie, exaggerate, and make shit up about Obama? Why call him socialist, marxist, the "messiah", "owebama", claim he isn't a US citizen, claims he want to destroy america? or claim things done by other people is really Obama's doing, and anything that goes on in the gov't or military is under Obama's direction?

YOu totally discredit any point you may have when you resort to such Glenn Beck/Rush type absurd attacks and arguments. You just look like some stupid, childish, partisan hack nutjob when you do so.

Have you been asleep since the election of November 2008? And just decided to wake up & post a comment?

I imagine it has alot to do with this. Like breaking more campaign promises than I still have coins in my pocket.

View attachment 9659

Have you ever considered deviating from the rightwing talking points...even a little?

I suggest you check the facts:
Campaign Promises broken = 16
Campaign Promises kept = 96


Now maybe you don't have 16 coins in your pocket...I'll grant you that.

Now HTF (HowTheFuck) do you expect anyone to believe what the PATHOLOGICALLY LYING SOCIOPATH MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami.....or one of his Obamarrhoidal stooges such as you......spews out in any given discussion ?

 

[Coyote]

Have you been asleep since the election of November 2008? And just decided to wake up & post a comment?

I imagine it has alot to do with this. Like breaking more campaign promises than I still have coins in my pocket.

View attachment 9659

Have you ever considered deviating from the rightwing talking points...even a little?

I suggest you check the facts:
Campaign Promises broken = 16
Campaign Promises kept = 96


Now maybe you don't have 16 coins in your pocket...I'll grant you that.

Now HTF (HowTheFuck) do you expect anyone to believe what the PATHOLOGICALLY LYING SOCIOPATH MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami.....or one of his Obamarrhoidal stooges such as you......spews out in any given discussion ?

...run out of Preparation H again did ya?

 

[txlonghorn]

What chimp are we talking about? Bush or Obama?

careful sailor...

just sayin'

 

[txlonghorn]

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports

Sometimes ya' just have to give these lefty's a lil' dose of REALITY!

I'm beginning to think that they don't deal in reality.

 

[Cuyo]

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports

Sometimes ya' just have to give these lefty's a lil' dose of REALITY!

Reality? No, no, you actually posted a link to Rasmussen.

 

[elvis]

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports

Sometimes ya' just have to give these lefty's a lil' dose of REALITY!

Reality? No, no, you actually posted a link to Rasmussen.

Ok, Cujo. what evidence do YOU have?

 

[Cuyo]

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports

Sometimes ya' just have to give these lefty's a lil' dose of REALITY!

Reality? No, no, you actually posted a link to Rasmussen.

Ok, Cujo. what evidence do YOU have?

Evidence of what? That Republicans hate Obama? I don't need evidence for that, we all know and agree with that.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports

Sometimes ya' just have to give these lefty's a lil' dose of REALITY!

I'm beginning to think that they don't deal in reality.

They don't. At least not since Obama started proving he's the most incompetent president this great country has ever seen.

The more he continues to ass it up, the further from reality the loons travel.

It's kinda funny actually.

 

[DiamondDave]

criticizing a war, that kills thousand of american troops, on proven faulty intelligence (my guess is you refuse to admit the intellignece was sketchy) that killed thousands and thousands of people, destabilizing yet another region, spending billions of dollars for that when there already was a war going on that pretty much everybody supported.

Liberal democrat gets blasted when he didn't even do anything, called a terrorist sympathizer, marixist, socialist, muslim who isn't american resident, making him guilty by association with Wright an Ayers, which are all dishonest stretches of reality. Then all the "destroying america" crap when he tries help the american economy, that's horrible, he's destroying the country.

Billions on war=good
billions to help americans=horrible and destroying the country

yeah, those two are completely comparable

You show your ignorance the more you post... quit while you are behind

1) You and so many idiot leftists like you like to only focus on WoMD for the reasoning behind the CONTINUATION of the military mission in Iraq... I would suggest reading the entire motherfucking resolution and attempting to understand what a cease-fire is as well as what happens as a result of the violation of the terms of cease fire
2) When an extremist, inexperienced democrat, who favors socialized and socialist programs, deals with radicals in all aspects of his professional and personal life, and tries to enact change that will indeed hinder or 'destroy' what this country and government is supposed to be, DAMN SKIPPY he will be called on it
3) Billions on national defense and the military including military actions and wars - CONSTITUTIONAL
4) Billions in wealth redistribution for personal wants/needs/responsibilities at the expense of the freedoms of others who are forced to pony up the $$$ for those entitlement programs - Not just BAD but MOTHERFUCKING GOD AWFUL HIDEOUS BAD

1. How can you even think about citing a UN resolution as justification to invade when W and the righties basicallly told the UN to fuck off and said it was invalid. If an institution is invalid then so are the resolutions it made. Fact is that W and the right used WoMD as the justification for the invasion with talks about mushroom clouds over our cities and other such nonsense that was said to scare up support for an invasion that more than likely would not have happened without the BS intel from curveball.

2. Extremist? LOL more BS scare tactics from the lemming right.

3. I don't think anyone said it wasn't constitutional so nice diversion.

4. More BS scare tactics from the lemming right. how is anything being propose at the expense of freedoms of others?? I didn't support most of what W did and yet I had to "pony up the $$$" for it and it wasn't at the expense of my freedoms ot anyone elses so how is that any different than now??

Seems to me that the minority party is merely whining and crying because they are in the minority and nothing more.

1) Again, fuckwad, read the terms of cease fire
2) Increased government, radical wealth redistribution policies, treatment in unequal terms, YES, that is extremist
3) It is right and proper, as well as constitutional to fund a national defense and the defense of allies... hence blowing apart the premise of the posters bullshit
4) Show where your personal responsibilities and needs are to be taken care of by anyone else, you entitlement junkie

I am not whining about what is minority or majority party.. only on what is right and wrong according to a free society

So go fuck yourself