Elizabeth Warren Claims Trump Insulted Her Race

[iceberg]

Meme Destroys Elizabeth Warren With ONE Question

again - the quote is bitching at student loans, not the cost of education.

but have fun. i've had my fill of mindless memes for the day.

 

[iceberg]

so...

did she give people loans in order to have them take her class?

i don't get the connection other than it fits on a meme and is about education.

Uh, because student loans pay for courses?

great. did she provide loans to people to take her course?

$400k is ignorant but if people want to pay it, their call. if they want to take out a loan, their call. but unless she said she hates student loans then turns around and provides said loans to people to take her stupid course, there is no connection really. would make more sense if she said the high cost of education was morally wrong and THEN charged $400k for whatever it is she thinks she teaches.

Are you really going to nitpick a meme that was supposed to point out hypocrisy? REALLY?

when the hypocrisy isn't there to me, yes.

again - she is bitching at student loans, not the cost of education. it's a reach to connect the two with a squishy oreo filling that comes apart easily.

No she is not bitching about student loans. She is bitching about how much an education costs and how universities/whomever profit off charging students too much, then she turns around and charges $400,000 per COURSE. I hope I cleared that up for you.

not at all but i don't give a shit anymore.

i hope that's clear to you. make a meme.

 

[ChrisL]

Uh, because student loans pay for courses?

great. did she provide loans to people to take her course?

$400k is ignorant but if people want to pay it, their call. if they want to take out a loan, their call. but unless she said she hates student loans then turns around and provides said loans to people to take her stupid course, there is no connection really. would make more sense if she said the high cost of education was morally wrong and THEN charged $400k for whatever it is she thinks she teaches.

Are you really going to nitpick a meme that was supposed to point out hypocrisy? REALLY?

when the hypocrisy isn't there to me, yes.

again - she is bitching at student loans, not the cost of education. it's a reach to connect the two with a squishy oreo filling that comes apart easily.

No she is not bitching about student loans. She is bitching about how much an education costs and how universities/whomever profit off charging students too much, then she turns around and charges $400,000 per COURSE. I hope I cleared that up for you.

not at all but i don't give a shit anymore.

i hope that's clear to you. make a meme.

That's not clear for you? What in the hell is WRONG with you?

 

[ChrisL]

Meme Destroys Elizabeth Warren With ONE Question

again - the quote is bitching at student loans, not the cost of education.

but have fun. i've had my fill of mindless memes for the day.

Don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out, you asshole.

 

[iceberg]

Meme Destroys Elizabeth Warren With ONE Question

again - the quote is bitching at student loans, not the cost of education.

but have fun. i've had my fill of mindless memes for the day.

Don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out, you asshole.

you sure get riled up when people don't agree with you.

 

[ChrisL]

Meme Destroys Elizabeth Warren With ONE Question

again - the quote is bitching at student loans, not the cost of education.

but have fun. i've had my fill of mindless memes for the day.

Don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out, you asshole.

you sure get riled up when people don't agree with you.

I don't like stupidity and ignorance.

 

[ChrisL]

I'm not here to "tolerate" or to play fake nice with people on a message board. I'm here to argue my points and to post funny or ironic memes.

 

[EverCurious]

i didn't know indians were a race.

You didn't know American Indians were a race - dude ... for real ?

depends on who you choose to believe and *want* to believe. they've been classified as caucasian by our gov and they also self-identify.

one website:
What is the race of an Indian?
Caucasian: ... Therefore, Indians are part of the caucasoid race. But this doesn't necessarily apply to all Indians. Indians in the north east have mongoloid features while some in the south have australoid features.

others do list american indian and alaskans as their own race.

so it's not a clear cut question / answer really.

I'd like to see that site you quoted, ... link ?

I am guessing the Caucasoid designation was bureaucratic purposes. So far as Science is concerned American Indians are a distinct race mor closely related to Mongols than Caucasians

i would think so - it's more for paperwork on our gov than actually trying to say indians are from europe.

are indians a "race" - put that in google and it's a question at the top. not really a clear link to a site unfortunately. that's why i kept digging and saw several different answers usually provided by people with some form of agenda. that said, it doesn't seem clear cut and people in general waffle on trying to define race at times also.

i don't consider indians caucasian. i can see several blends of "races" in indians that can span across north and south america as well as asian influences. far as i'm concerned its up to indians to define who they are and people should respect it.

from wiki:
The racial classification of Indian Americans has varied over the years and across institutions.[12] Originally, neither the courts nor the census bureau classified Indian Americans as a race because there were only negligible numbers of Indian immigrants in the United States. Various court judgements instead deemed Indians to be "White" or "not White" for the purposes of law. In 1970,

so yea, usually done for legal purposes.

None of the natives up here want to be called "indians" or native "Americans" they consider themselves "Alaskan's" because they get that we can't remember /all/ the tribes, but we do try to refer to them all individually as much as we can - we spend a good deal of time/money trying to save some of these heritages that are trying to die out because we understand the importance of their history in their belief systems; though many were converted to Russian Orthodox I'd say it's a mix of their historical religion and Russian Orthodox.

Anyway, there's like I think 180 tribes up here... They arrived in different "waves" so they consider themselves all different veins, sub-veins, and sub-sub-veins; "Athabaskans" (dena'ina is my honorary tribe's sub-vein, also koyukon, han, ahtna, many others) then there's the "eskimo's" (Inupiat, a mixing with Inuit, there's the Yupik which includes Yup'ik, cup'ik, sugppiaq), then there's aleut, tlingit, tsimshian, etc. It's actually really interesting to learn about because they've all got different folk lore and history. The state's name is a mix of Russian and Aleut, so it's actually kind of uninclusive to call them "Alaska" natives... Also, studies show they're not related to the natives in south america like lower 48 tribes, so they don't really fall into the blanket of "indian american" or "native american" or even "Alaska native" as I said.

So yea, it's actually a surprisingly difficult question.

 

[iceberg]

i didn't know indians were a race.

You didn't know American Indians were a race - dude ... for real ?

depends on who you choose to believe and *want* to believe. they've been classified as caucasian by our gov and they also self-identify.

one website:
What is the race of an Indian?
Caucasian: ... Therefore, Indians are part of the caucasoid race. But this doesn't necessarily apply to all Indians. Indians in the north east have mongoloid features while some in the south have australoid features.

others do list american indian and alaskans as their own race.

so it's not a clear cut question / answer really.

I'd like to see that site you quoted, ... link ?

I am guessing the Caucasoid designation was bureaucratic purposes. So far as Science is concerned American Indians are a distinct race mor closely related to Mongols than Caucasians

i would think so - it's more for paperwork on our gov than actually trying to say indians are from europe.

are indians a "race" - put that in google and it's a question at the top. not really a clear link to a site unfortunately. that's why i kept digging and saw several different answers usually provided by people with some form of agenda. that said, it doesn't seem clear cut and people in general waffle on trying to define race at times also.

i don't consider indians caucasian. i can see several blends of "races" in indians that can span across north and south america as well as asian influences. far as i'm concerned its up to indians to define who they are and people should respect it.

from wiki:
The racial classification of Indian Americans has varied over the years and across institutions.[12] Originally, neither the courts nor the census bureau classified Indian Americans as a race because there were only negligible numbers of Indian immigrants in the United States. Various court judgements instead deemed Indians to be "White" or "not White" for the purposes of law. In 1970,

so yea, usually done for legal purposes.

None of the natives up here want to be called "indians" or native "Americans" they consider themselves "Alaskan's" because they get that we can't remember /all/ the tribes, but we do try to refer to them all individually as much as we can - we spend a good deal of time/money trying to save some of these heritages that are trying to die out because we understand the importance of their history in their belief systems; though many were converted to Russian Orthodox I'd say it's a mix of their historical religion and Russian Orthodox.

Anyway, there's like I think 180 tribes up here... They arrived in different "waves" so they consider themselves all different veins, sub-veins, and sub-sub-veins; "Athabaskans" (dena'ina is my honorary tribe's sub-vein, also koyukon, han, ahtna, many others) then there's the "eskimo's" (Inupiat, a mixing with Inuit, there's the Yupik which includes Yup'ik, cup'ik, sugppiaq), then there's aleut, tlingit, tsimshian, etc. It's actually really interesting to learn about because they've all got different folk lore and history. The state's name is a mix of Russian and Aleut, so it's actually kind of uninclusive to call them "Alaska" natives... Also, studies show they're not related to the natives in south america like lower 48 tribes, so they don't really fall into the blanket of "indian american" or "native american" or even "Alaska native" as I said.

So yea, it's actually a surprisingly difficult question.

agreed. i never much thought about it until now and i can see a lot of alaskan which i believe has asian in it also. but i can see hispanic coming up from central america and this may have been a blend over time. but i don't do this for a living so i'm just making loose conjecture.

 

[bodecea]

Liz Warren told MSNBC that Trump insulted her Indian heritage.

Elizabeth Warren: 'Deeply Unfortunate' Trump Cannot Honor Heroes Without Throwing Out a 'Racial Slur' - Breitbart

How come your title says "race" and then your OP says "Indian heritage"?

Do you not know the difference?

He does....it's a purposeful lie.

 

[bodecea]

Notice how when trump takes an honoring event to take a shot at someone that has nothing to do with the event.....all his obedience trumpanzees jump right in to take more shots? They are so obedient, so easy.

 

[iceberg]

Notice how when trump takes an honoring event to take a shot at someone that has nothing to do with the event.....all his obedience trumpanzees jump right in to take more shots? They are so obedient, so easy.

And anti trumpets would never use any opportunity at all to bash Trump.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I hope no one bet against the RWnuts defending Trump on this. lol

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump is the perfect example of those my grandma and mom would call 'small people'.

 

[ChrisL]

Notice how when trump takes an honoring event to take a shot at someone that has nothing to do with the event.....all his obedience trumpanzees jump right in to take more shots? They are so obedient, so easy.

Aww, I was just going to post this one! Lol!

 

[EverCurious]

You didn't know American Indians were a race - dude ... for real ?

depends on who you choose to believe and *want* to believe. they've been classified as caucasian by our gov and they also self-identify.

one website:
What is the race of an Indian?
Caucasian: ... Therefore, Indians are part of the caucasoid race. But this doesn't necessarily apply to all Indians. Indians in the north east have mongoloid features while some in the south have australoid features.

others do list american indian and alaskans as their own race.

so it's not a clear cut question / answer really.

I'd like to see that site you quoted, ... link ?

I am guessing the Caucasoid designation was bureaucratic purposes. So far as Science is concerned American Indians are a distinct race mor closely related to Mongols than Caucasians

i would think so - it's more for paperwork on our gov than actually trying to say indians are from europe.

are indians a "race" - put that in google and it's a question at the top. not really a clear link to a site unfortunately. that's why i kept digging and saw several different answers usually provided by people with some form of agenda. that said, it doesn't seem clear cut and people in general waffle on trying to define race at times also.

i don't consider indians caucasian. i can see several blends of "races" in indians that can span across north and south america as well as asian influences. far as i'm concerned its up to indians to define who they are and people should respect it.

from wiki:
The racial classification of Indian Americans has varied over the years and across institutions.[12] Originally, neither the courts nor the census bureau classified Indian Americans as a race because there were only negligible numbers of Indian immigrants in the United States. Various court judgements instead deemed Indians to be "White" or "not White" for the purposes of law. In 1970,

so yea, usually done for legal purposes.

None of the natives up here want to be called "indians" or native "Americans" they consider themselves "Alaskan's" because they get that we can't remember /all/ the tribes, but we do try to refer to them all individually as much as we can - we spend a good deal of time/money trying to save some of these heritages that are trying to die out because we understand the importance of their history in their belief systems; though many were converted to Russian Orthodox I'd say it's a mix of their historical religion and Russian Orthodox.

Anyway, there's like I think 180 tribes up here... They arrived in different "waves" so they consider themselves all different veins, sub-veins, and sub-sub-veins; "Athabaskans" (dena'ina is my honorary tribe's sub-vein, also koyukon, han, ahtna, many others) then there's the "eskimo's" (Inupiat, a mixing with Inuit, there's the Yupik which includes Yup'ik, cup'ik, sugppiaq), then there's aleut, tlingit, tsimshian, etc. It's actually really interesting to learn about because they've all got different folk lore and history. The state's name is a mix of Russian and Aleut, so it's actually kind of uninclusive to call them "Alaska" natives... Also, studies show they're not related to the natives in south america like lower 48 tribes, so they don't really fall into the blanket of "indian american" or "native american" or even "Alaska native" as I said.

So yea, it's actually a surprisingly difficult question.

agreed. i never much thought about it until now and i can see a lot of alaskan which i believe has asian in it also. but i can see hispanic coming up from central america and this may have been a blend over time. but i don't do this for a living so i'm just making loose conjecture.

I'll admit I have not studied the whole mix as well as I probably should have being an honorary member of a tribe and all ( >.< ) but as I recall they originate from mongol areas, china areas, northern russian areas, and korea areas - that's the different waves and veins thing, though some "origins" had multiple waves who came in and interbred with other/older wave/veins so then you have sub-veins and so forth. It's almost sad because up here many of the young ones come to Anchorage and "shake off" their heritage, they marry a white guy, have some kids, and those kids are raised as Alaskan's (white american's) rather than natives - they, the kids, want out of the tribal system, they want the American dream, cars and coffee and regular jobs and so forth so they kind of "abandon" it so they can be under "American" rule (the natives up here are under tribal rule and not really subject to the same laws and rights as Americans are.)

We (american) Alaskan's worry about saving their cultures because of this, but the tribal elders want[ed] to be "sovereign" back in the day, and we Alaskan's respected that, I can't blame the elders for wanting to maintain power or anything, and I certainly don't think they do a bad job, but I do wonder if they were not "sovereign," if they were under American law/rights, if the younger generations would be... idk, more appreciative of their unique individual heritage. "My" tribe, over the past 30+ years, has lost most of it's children to "modern" America as well, many sons and daughters have left Alaska entirely with their military husbands (my tribe is located very close to Eagle River where all the general's live,) there is a real fear that our tribe will disappear entirely :/

 

[JoeB131]

Pocahontas speaks with forked tongue.

Great White Chief Trump rub her nose in it.............

That one may leave a mark.....

One can accept that Warren was being a little silly claiming native american heritage...

But the place to talk about that was not while honoring Native American Veterans. The Orange Shitgibbon once again diminished his office by being, petty.

Also, having the ceremony under a picture of Andrew Jackson (most famous for massacring the Cherokee) was a tackiness multiplier. But I'll give that a pass, because I don't think Trump is smart enough to understand the signifigence.

So he took what should have been a nice little ceremony and turned it into something tawdry...

Or in other words - "Monday".

 

[NYcarbineer]

Liz Warren told MSNBC that Trump insulted her Indian heritage.

Elizabeth Warren: 'Deeply Unfortunate' Trump Cannot Honor Heroes Without Throwing Out a 'Racial Slur' - Breitbart

She doesn't do what you claim. Why lie? Are you addicted to lying?

 

[iceberg]

depends on who you choose to believe and *want* to believe. they've been classified as caucasian by our gov and they also self-identify.

one website:
What is the race of an Indian?
Caucasian: ... Therefore, Indians are part of the caucasoid race. But this doesn't necessarily apply to all Indians. Indians in the north east have mongoloid features while some in the south have australoid features.

others do list american indian and alaskans as their own race.

so it's not a clear cut question / answer really.

I'd like to see that site you quoted, ... link ?

I am guessing the Caucasoid designation was bureaucratic purposes. So far as Science is concerned American Indians are a distinct race mor closely related to Mongols than Caucasians

i would think so - it's more for paperwork on our gov than actually trying to say indians are from europe.

are indians a "race" - put that in google and it's a question at the top. not really a clear link to a site unfortunately. that's why i kept digging and saw several different answers usually provided by people with some form of agenda. that said, it doesn't seem clear cut and people in general waffle on trying to define race at times also.

i don't consider indians caucasian. i can see several blends of "races" in indians that can span across north and south america as well as asian influences. far as i'm concerned its up to indians to define who they are and people should respect it.

from wiki:
The racial classification of Indian Americans has varied over the years and across institutions.[12] Originally, neither the courts nor the census bureau classified Indian Americans as a race because there were only negligible numbers of Indian immigrants in the United States. Various court judgements instead deemed Indians to be "White" or "not White" for the purposes of law. In 1970,

so yea, usually done for legal purposes.

None of the natives up here want to be called "indians" or native "Americans" they consider themselves "Alaskan's" because they get that we can't remember /all/ the tribes, but we do try to refer to them all individually as much as we can - we spend a good deal of time/money trying to save some of these heritages that are trying to die out because we understand the importance of their history in their belief systems; though many were converted to Russian Orthodox I'd say it's a mix of their historical religion and Russian Orthodox.

Anyway, there's like I think 180 tribes up here... They arrived in different "waves" so they consider themselves all different veins, sub-veins, and sub-sub-veins; "Athabaskans" (dena'ina is my honorary tribe's sub-vein, also koyukon, han, ahtna, many others) then there's the "eskimo's" (Inupiat, a mixing with Inuit, there's the Yupik which includes Yup'ik, cup'ik, sugppiaq), then there's aleut, tlingit, tsimshian, etc. It's actually really interesting to learn about because they've all got different folk lore and history. The state's name is a mix of Russian and Aleut, so it's actually kind of uninclusive to call them "Alaska" natives... Also, studies show they're not related to the natives in south america like lower 48 tribes, so they don't really fall into the blanket of "indian american" or "native american" or even "Alaska native" as I said.

So yea, it's actually a surprisingly difficult question.

agreed. i never much thought about it until now and i can see a lot of alaskan which i believe has asian in it also. but i can see hispanic coming up from central america and this may have been a blend over time. but i don't do this for a living so i'm just making loose conjecture.

I'll admit I have not studied the whole mix as well as I probably should have being an honorary member of a tribe and all ( >.< ) but as I recall they originate from mongol areas, china areas, northern russian areas, and korea areas - that's the different waves and veins thing, though some "origins" had multiple waves who came in and interbred with other/older wave/veins so then you have sub-veins and so forth. It's almost sad because up here many of the young ones come to Anchorage and "shake off" their heritage, they marry a white guy, have some kids, and those kids are raised as Alaskan's (white american's) rather than natives - they, the kids, want out of the tribal system, they want the American dream, cars and coffee and regular jobs and so forth so they kind of "abandon" it so they can be under "American" rule (the natives up here are under tribal rule and not really subject to the same laws and rights as Americans are.)

We (american) Alaskan's worry about saving their cultures because of this, but the tribal elders want[ed] to be "sovereign" back in the day, and we Alaskan's respected that, I can't blame the elders for wanting to maintain power or anything, and I certainly don't think they do a bad job, but I do wonder if they were not "sovereign," if they were under American law/rights, if the younger generations would be... idk, more appreciative of their unique individual heritage. "My" tribe, over the past 30+ years, has lost most of it's children to "modern" America as well, many sons and daughters have left Alaska entirely with their military husbands (my tribe is located very close to Eagle River where all the general's live,) there is a real fear that our tribe will disappear entirely :/

only been to alaska once but i loved every minute i was there. except they don't brew tea. one would think tea bags are easier to ship into fairbanks that lipton pre-made tea.

took one of the tours to the arctic circle on the dalton road and that was an amazing trip. landscape went from christmas to mars in pretty short order at times. coby, our tour guide, was simply amazing and certainly lived the alaska life. on the way back we stopped several times to try and see the northern lights and on the last stop around 2am, we did. it was like -20 below w/o the wind but i stood out there as long as i could woefully underdressed.

i used to watch the alaska shows but those have been hammered into stupidity with the bush people and other shows that seem to have little to do with alaska and a lot to do with selling a stereotype.

 

[Auld Phart]

i didn't know indians were a race.

Anyone who isn't white can be easily insulted with an ethnic slur.
Whites can't.

You sure about that honky?

Mebbe you should ask some of your cracker buddies about it.