Elizabeth Warren Claims Trump Insulted Her Race

from wiki:
The racial classification of Indian Americans has varied over the years and across institutions.[12] Originally, neither the courts nor the census bureau classified Indian Americans as a race because there were only negligible numbers of Indian immigrants in the United States. Various court judgements instead deemed Indians to be "White" or "not White" for the purposes of law. In 1970,

so yea, usually done for legal purposes.

And that actually touches on the Warren history as well as scores of other people, as it hearkens back to times of ignorance and bigotry, in that people of other (nonwhite) races, who could get away with doing so, would report themselves as "white" on census and similar forms, to (ironic pun intended) save their own skin. A century or two later message board wags waddle in and go "look, this ancestor was reported as 'white'". Yeah, no shit. The operative verb is reported as. There's a distinct reason it was reported that way. Countless tales of social objections to who one marries or where one lives based on race or ethnicity abound from those times.

I've already mentioned how I had to ferret out my own Irish heritage after it was buried in my grandparents' time by that same dynamic. It's a smaller scale but it's the same mentality shift.

The glaring error in reasoning here is that social attitudes fucking CHANGE over time, and sometimes radically. In Warren's ancestors' time you just didn't "admit" to being Indian if you could get away with it. Many light-skinned African-derived people did the same thing. To wallow around unaware that that world existed, and not that long ago, is to be blindly ignorant to one's own society's history.

So, what your'esaying is that Fauxacontas is really an indian, despite all the documentaiton saying she isn't. Then explain this, douchebag, why won't she submit her DNA for analysis? That would settle the matter once and for all.

Who in the wide wide world of fuck are you to demand DNA tests of a total stranger just so you'll be force to troll some other topic on a message board?

Holy SHIT how arrogant is that? This is **YOUR** hangup, **YOU** get off your ass and deal with it.

SMH
to be fair, when i read that it was in the same vein as busting people for trumps taxes. not a requirement, neither is a dna test - but each side is hellbent on this being the link to *something* that will take down the other side.

i don't care who or what she is. she's annoying as fuck and that's all i really know about her at this point.
 
Republicans have been calling her that for a couple of years.

Now, suddenly, it's a racial slur and a big deal.

Jeez, these people...
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Making up entire fabrications alleging someone did something is ALWAYS a big deal. Always has been, always will be.
 
from wiki:
The racial classification of Indian Americans has varied over the years and across institutions.[12] Originally, neither the courts nor the census bureau classified Indian Americans as a race because there were only negligible numbers of Indian immigrants in the United States. Various court judgements instead deemed Indians to be "White" or "not White" for the purposes of law. In 1970,

so yea, usually done for legal purposes.

And that actually touches on the Warren history as well as scores of other people, as it hearkens back to times of ignorance and bigotry, in that people of other (nonwhite) races, who could get away with doing so, would report themselves as "white" on census and similar forms, to (ironic pun intended) save their own skin. A century or two later message board wags waddle in and go "look, this ancestor was reported as 'white'". Yeah, no shit. The operative verb is reported as. There's a distinct reason it was reported that way. Countless tales of social objections to who one marries or where one lives based on race or ethnicity abound from those times.

I've already mentioned how I had to ferret out my own Irish heritage after it was buried in my grandparents' time by that same dynamic. It's a smaller scale but it's the same mentality shift.

The glaring error in reasoning here is that social attitudes fucking CHANGE over time, and sometimes radically. In Warren's ancestors' time you just didn't "admit" to being Indian if you could get away with it. Many light-skinned African-derived people did the same thing. To wallow around unaware that that world existed, and not that long ago, is to be blindly ignorant to one's own society's history.

So, what your'esaying is that Fauxacontas is really an indian, despite all the documentaiton saying she isn't. Then explain this, douchebag, why won't she submit her DNA for analysis? That would settle the matter once and for all.

Who in the wide wide world of fuck are you to demand DNA tests of a total stranger just so you'll be force to troll some other topic on a message board?

Holy SHIT how arrogant is that? This is **YOUR** hangup, **YOU** get off your ass and deal with it.

SMH

I can tell you I'm Irish. Owl can tell you he's black. NEITHER of us owe you jack shit to back it up. I mean get the fuck OVER yourself.

You aren't running for political office. A woman who wants to be a U.S. Senator and who has been trading on claims that's she has an Indian heritage has an obligation to backup her claims. Otherwise she's just another lying douchebag Demoocrat.
 
from wiki:
The racial classification of Indian Americans has varied over the years and across institutions.[12] Originally, neither the courts nor the census bureau classified Indian Americans as a race because there were only negligible numbers of Indian immigrants in the United States. Various court judgements instead deemed Indians to be "White" or "not White" for the purposes of law. In 1970,

so yea, usually done for legal purposes.

And that actually touches on the Warren history as well as scores of other people, as it hearkens back to times of ignorance and bigotry, in that people of other (nonwhite) races, who could get away with doing so, would report themselves as "white" on census and similar forms, to (ironic pun intended) save their own skin. A century or two later message board wags waddle in and go "look, this ancestor was reported as 'white'". Yeah, no shit. The operative verb is reported as. There's a distinct reason it was reported that way. Countless tales of social objections to who one marries or where one lives based on race or ethnicity abound from those times.

I've already mentioned how I had to ferret out my own Irish heritage after it was buried in my grandparents' time by that same dynamic. It's a smaller scale but it's the same mentality shift.

The glaring error in reasoning here is that social attitudes fucking CHANGE over time, and sometimes radically. In Warren's ancestors' time you just didn't "admit" to being Indian if you could get away with it. Many light-skinned African-derived people did the same thing. To wallow around unaware that that world existed, and not that long ago, is to be blindly ignorant to one's own society's history.

So, what your'esaying is that Fauxacontas is really an indian, despite all the documentaiton saying she isn't. Then explain this, douchebag, why won't she submit her DNA for analysis? That would settle the matter once and for all.

Who in the wide wide world of fuck are you to demand DNA tests of a total stranger just so you'll be force to troll some other topic on a message board?

Holy SHIT how arrogant is that? This is **YOUR** hangup, **YOU** get off your ass and deal with it.

SMH

I can tell you I'm Irish. Owl can tell you he's black. NEITHER of us owe you jack shit to back it up. I mean get the fuck OVER yourself.

You aren't running for political office. A woman who wants to be a U.S. Senator and who has been trading on claims that's she has an Indian heritage has an obligation to backup her claims. Otherwise she's just another lying douchebag Demoocrat.

Aaaaaaand right back to the fabrications.

If (in this case) Warren had been "trading on her Indian heritage" you could document it. But you can't. All you can do is whine incessantly about fantasies that don't even exist in the hope that some schlub third party will read your insipid bullshit and swallow it. Again, fuck you and everybody who operates that way.
 
At the ceremony celebrating Navajo code talkers, Trump demonstrated he is a clueless an idiot as one human being can be.
 
Navajo Nation: President’s comment at ceremony ‘culturally insensitive’

After the event, the Navajo Nation released a statement calling the president’s words “culturally insensitive”.

“In this day and age, all tribal nations still battle insensitive references to our people. The prejudice that Native American people face is an unfortunate historical legacy,” said a statement by Navajo Nation President Russell Begaye. “As Native Americans, we are proud people who have taken care of this land long before there was the United States of America and we will continue to fight for this Nation.”

Begaye added: “It was our code talkers that ensured the freedom of the United States, and that’s what is important to remember here.”
 
Republicans have been calling her that for a couple of years. Now, suddenly, it's a racial slur and a big deal. Jeez, these people....
Making up entire fabrications alleging someone did something is ALWAYS a big deal. Always has been, always will be.
Yes, especially when it's politically advantageous.

I deal on a far more basic level -- calling out these elemental denials of reality, whether it's a political thing or not. The fact that these wags can put forth an assertion, be called out to document that assertion, can't do it, and then go on repeating the assertion they already know they can't back up, continues to astound.

That's a world of complete self-delusion. When you deny the basic laws of reality, we live in existential anarchy.
 
Native Americans respond to Trump's Pocahontas comment

The National Congress of American Indians (NCAI) was quick to condemn Mr. Trump for using a slur against Warren that overshadowed the intent of the ceremony.

"We regret that the President's use of the name Pocahontas as a slur to insult a political adversary is overshadowing the true purpose of today's White House ceremony," stated NCAI President Jefferson Keel, a decorated U.S. Army officer and Vietnam War combat veteran. "Today was about recognizing the remarkable courage and invaluable contributions of our Native code talkers. That's who we honor today and everyday -- the three code talkers present at the White House representing the 10 other elderly living code talkers who were unable to join them, and the hundreds of other code talkers from the Cherokee, Choctaw, Comanche, Lakota, Meskwaki, Mohawk, Navajo, Tlingit, and other tribes who served during World Wars I and II."
 
Trump is one stupid idiot. What a dumb fuck.

He had to shit all over a ceremony celebrating heroes. He just could not stop himself.

Zero impulse control.
 
Interesting!

1595?-1617. Powhatan princess who befriended the English colonists at Jamestown and is said to have saved Capt. John Smith from execution by her people. She married the colonist John Rolfe (1614) and later traveled to England, where she died. Pocahontas." - Definition from YourDictionary (How is this Racist?)
 
Breaking News Update!

Listen at 15:20 in the video. The Navajo spokesman of the three says, “Mr. President, we know you’ll succeed. America is in good hands . .”

This is after the Pocahontas remark.


 
This is what happens every time Trump goes off teleprompter. He embarrasses America.
 
Trump was stupid to open this can of worms, but having said that, Warren has less native blood than I do, and I don't go around making indigenous claims nor do I mark anything special on any application.
 

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