Every one of you likely did something outrageous at the age of 16 or 17.

[OldLady]

Im willing to believe her if her therapist testifies that she talked about it years ago.

Six years ago, 30 years after the fact, she offered it up during couples' counseling to explain why she couldn't develop relationships with men.
The counselor's notes do not mention names.

 

[Pop23]

Full disclosure

I owned two Leisure suits

LOL
I literally cried the first time I was forced to buy a pair of polyester slacks as appropriate "office wear."
Still hate polyester.

I feel your pain

 

[Avatar4321]

See ^^^^^
A perfect example of someone ignoring the principles our system is founded on.

A perfect example of someone ignoring the principles this thread was founded on: "Every one of you likely did something outrageous at the age of 16 or 17'.

I never tried to forcible rape anyone at 16 or 17. Trying to blow this off as typical behavior for a teen boy is ridiculous.

Except no evidence shows anyone tried to forcibly rape anyone.

Even if he testimony is true, the best you have is he, while drunk, tried to hook up with a girl and got rejected and so stopped trying

Thats not what the accusation is, Mormon.

No. It’s what the evidence shows if you believe her.

Which we have no reason to since all the other parties involved denied this ever happened, she can’t name a time or the place it allegedly occurred. And she claims she was drinking so forgive us for using our brains, bigot

she accused him of attempted rape

youre saying she said no and he got up easy peasy and walked out.

the 2 things are very fuckin different, Mormon.

According to her he did get off her and leave.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Im willing to believe her if her therapist testifies that she talked about it years ago.

Absurd logic.
Her family has been at odds with his family for years via judicial rulings.

There is CLEAR motive here. The woman is full of shit and even her own students have determined her to be "off"

 

[Lysistrata]

I don't know anyone who is the same person today that they were as a teenager 30 or 40 years ago.
Having said that should YOUR life be upended over unsubstantiated accusations from your youth? Matters not if you are guilty or not. The accusation alone will likely end your career or make things very difficult for you.
Is this who we are now as a nation? Have we truly tossed the scales of justice out the window and replaced them with guilty until proven innocent?

Stay on topic if you can.

------------------------------------ looks like its Guilty until Proved Innocent to me and its a shame . See Judge Roy Moore and now Kavanaugh . Started years ago in my opinion whenever sex accusations or sex crimes were involved and the POWERS Decided that woman should be treated differently then men .

Enough people have come forward to indicate that roy moore was Alabama's state whore and stalker well into his 30's. But he's a "conservative" and a gawd-fearin' bibble-banger.

Moore was at best a creep. We are better off without him.

You people who have supported him can't back out of this now and just dismiss it.

 

[G.T.]

A perfect example of someone ignoring the principles this thread was founded on: "Every one of you likely did something outrageous at the age of 16 or 17'.

I never tried to forcible rape anyone at 16 or 17. Trying to blow this off as typical behavior for a teen boy is ridiculous.

Except no evidence shows anyone tried to forcibly rape anyone.

Even if he testimony is true, the best you have is he, while drunk, tried to hook up with a girl and got rejected and so stopped trying

Thats not what the accusation is, Mormon.

No. It’s what the evidence shows if you believe her.

Which we have no reason to since all the other parties involved denied this ever happened, she can’t name a time or the place it allegedly occurred. And she claims she was drinking so forgive us for using our brains, bigot

she accused him of attempted rape

youre saying she said no and he got up easy peasy and walked out.

the 2 things are very fuckin different, Mormon.

According to her he did get off her and leave.

wrong. according to her, she ESCAPED

 

[Skylar]

Im willing to believe her if her therapist testifies that she talked about it years ago.

She has the therapist notes in which she recounts the experience, citing her attacker as a prominant federal judge now. And testimony of her husband that she cited Kavanaugh specifically as her attacker.

Both years before the hearings. With the notes being from 2012.

The idea that she accused Kavanaugh for political reasons makes no sense. As when she shared the experience in couples therapy in 2012, there were no political implications. Its only now that there are.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I don't know anyone who is the same person today that they were as a teenager 30 or 40 years ago.
Having said that should YOUR life be upended over unsubstantiated accusations from your youth? Matters not if you are guilty or not. The accusation alone will likely end your career or make things very difficult for you.
Is this who we are now as a nation? Have we truly tossed the scales of justice out the window and replaced them with guilty until proven innocent?

Stay on topic if you can.

I never attempted to rape a girl at 16 or 17.

If attempted forcible rape is something that you consider perfectly normal for a teenager, is there something you want to tell us, Gramps?

See ^^^^^
A perfect example of someone ignoring the principles our system is founded on.

You don't understand that we have CRIMINAL statute of limitations for this reason, however just because a person is no longer criminal liable for those actions doesn't mean they are no longer immoral. At no point did I ever sexually assault a girl as a kid. The worst thing as a teenager may have been shoplifting a candy bar under peer pressure or going out to toilet paper houses and corn cars.

So you are trying to tell us your a saint???


God damn if we held people accountable what they did when they were a kid we wouldn't have any politicians or judges.


Thank God the internet and computer records wasn't around when I was growing up


.

 

[Pop23]

Except no evidence shows anyone tried to forcibly rape anyone.

Even if he testimony is true, the best you have is he, while drunk, tried to hook up with a girl and got rejected and so stopped trying

Thats not what the accusation is, Mormon.

No. It’s what the evidence shows if you believe her.

Which we have no reason to since all the other parties involved denied this ever happened, she can’t name a time or the place it allegedly occurred. And she claims she was drinking so forgive us for using our brains, bigot

she accused him of attempted rape

youre saying she said no and he got up easy peasy and walked out.

the 2 things are very fuckin different, Mormon.

According to her he did get off her and leave.

wrong. according to her, she ESCAPED

From where?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I don't know anyone who is the same person today that they were as a teenager 30 or 40 years ago.
Having said that should YOUR life be upended over unsubstantiated accusations from your youth? Matters not if you are guilty or not. The accusation alone will likely end your career or make things very difficult for you.
Is this who we are now as a nation? Have we truly tossed the scales of justice out the window and replaced them with guilty until proven innocent?

Stay on topic if you can.

------------------------------------ looks like its Guilty until Proved Innocent to me and its a shame . See Judge Roy Moore and now Kavanaugh . Started years ago in my opinion whenever sex accusations or sex crimes were involved and the POWERS Decided that woman should be treated differently then men .

Enough people have come forward to indicate that roy moore was Alabama's state whore and stalker well into his 30's. But he's a "conservative" and a gawd-fearin' bibble-banger.

Moore was at best a creep. We are better off without him.

You people who have supported him can't back out of this now and just dismiss it.

I never supported him so fuck off with this bullshit

 

[Skylar]

Except no evidence shows anyone tried to forcibly rape anyone.

Even if he testimony is true, the best you have is he, while drunk, tried to hook up with a girl and got rejected and so stopped trying

Thats not what the accusation is, Mormon.

No. It’s what the evidence shows if you believe her.

Which we have no reason to since all the other parties involved denied this ever happened, she can’t name a time or the place it allegedly occurred. And she claims she was drinking so forgive us for using our brains, bigot

she accused him of attempted rape

youre saying she said no and he got up easy peasy and walked out.

the 2 things are very fuckin different, Mormon.

According to her he did get off her and leave.

wrong. according to her, she ESCAPED

This is her account:


"While his friend watched, she said, Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed on her back and groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it. When she tried to scream, she said, he put his hand over her mouth.

“I thought he might inadvertently kill me,” said Ford, now a 51-year-old research psychologist in northern California. “He was trying to attack me and remove my clothing.”

Ford said she was able to escape when Kavanaugh’s friend and classmate at Georgetown Preparatory School, Mark Judge, jumped on top of them, sending all three tumbling. She said she ran from the room, briefly locked herself in a bathroom and then fled the house."


And she did cite the name of the other boy, contrary to my claims earlier.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

you're not wrong. you're just an asshole

Is it because of that one time when I was 16 and found myself in a mattress store unable to resist the temptation to rip off that little tag that said "do not remove under penalty of law"?

Yep, I was quite the outlaw when a teen.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Thats not what the accusation is, Mormon.

No. It’s what the evidence shows if you believe her.

Which we have no reason to since all the other parties involved denied this ever happened, she can’t name a time or the place it allegedly occurred. And she claims she was drinking so forgive us for using our brains, bigot

she accused him of attempted rape

youre saying she said no and he got up easy peasy and walked out.

the 2 things are very fuckin different, Mormon.

According to her he did get off her and leave.

wrong. according to her, she ESCAPED

From where?

She wont name a specific location because that could actually be corroborated and thus would bust her lie.

 

[Skylar]

I don't know anyone who is the same person today that they were as a teenager 30 or 40 years ago.
Having said that should YOUR life be upended over unsubstantiated accusations from your youth? Matters not if you are guilty or not. The accusation alone will likely end your career or make things very difficult for you.
Is this who we are now as a nation? Have we truly tossed the scales of justice out the window and replaced them with guilty until proven innocent?

Stay on topic if you can.

I never attempted to rape a girl at 16 or 17.

If attempted forcible rape is something that you consider perfectly normal for a teenager, is there something you want to tell us, Gramps?

See ^^^^^
A perfect example of someone ignoring the principles our system is founded on.

You don't understand that we have CRIMINAL statute of limitations for this reason, however just because a person is no longer criminal liable for those actions doesn't mean they are no longer immoral. At no point did I ever sexually assault a girl as a kid. The worst thing as a teenager may have been shoplifting a candy bar under peer pressure or going out to toilet paper houses and corn cars.

So you are trying to tell us your a saint???


God damn if we held people accountable what they did when they were a kid we wouldn't have any politicians or judges.


Thank God the internet and computer records wasn't around when I was growing up


.

Attempted Forcible Rape is not 'things folks do when they are a kid'.

 

[candycorn]

I don't know anyone who is the same person today that they were as a teenager 30 or 40 years ago.
Having said that should YOUR life be upended over unsubstantiated accusations from your youth? Matters not if you are guilty or not. The accusation alone will likely end your career or make things very difficult for you.
Is this who we are now as a nation? Have we truly tossed the scales of justice out the window and replaced them with guilty until proven innocent?

Stay on topic if you can.

I never attempted to rape a girl at 16 or 17.

If attempted forcible rape is something that you consider perfectly normal for a teenager, is there something you want to tell us, Gramps?

See ^^^^^
A perfect example of someone ignoring the principles our system is founded on.

A perfect example of someone ignoring the principles this thread was founded on: "Every one of you likely did something outrageous at the age of 16 or 17'.

I never tried to forcible rape anyone at 16 or 17. Trying to blow this off as typical behavior for a teen boy is ridiculous.

Now that is true….

However, if there wasn’t police involvement…let me restate that….CONFIRMED police involvement meaning the authorities were called and he was questioned…I am not of the position that this is “forcible rape”.

And—this is for everyone on the left—save the “well his record was whitewashed” nonsense. The record is the record; as imperfect or imperfect as it may be. If you’re going to run that offense, then everything these jugheads said about Obama is in play; “records of his birth in nigeria were whitewashed” or whatever.

We have an eye witness: Christine Blasey Ford. The woman who was claims that she was attacked by Kavanaugh as a teenager, where he attempted to forcibly rape her.

And this is not a story she's made up for the confirmation hearings. But an experience she recounted in counselling in 2012, with third party documentation to prove it. With other witnesses confirming that she cited Kavanaugh as the person that attempted to rape her as a teenager.

Long before the hearings.

She should be heard.

Okay. But if you and I were having a fight today and then you become the nominee for Federal judge or Astronaut or whatever 35 years from today; if I don’t call the police and say you assaulted me today, I can’t claim it was an assault 35 years from now..can I?

What stinks more is that Kav was nominated on July 9. Where was this Allegation then?

As I understand he was on Trump’s list of judges the blob released before he even won the election. Where was the allegation then?

I’m not sure what job Kav holds now…still no allegation?

This stinks.

Fine, hear her but the Senators of both parties should be asking those questions I asked above. And please save the hooey about it taking her this long to muster the courage and all associated crapolla. If she thought it was an attack in 1983; she should have called the police in 1983. Its that simple.

 

[Pop23]

Im willing to believe her if her therapist testifies that she talked about it years ago.

She has the therapist notes in which she recounts the experience, citing her attacker as a prominant federal judge now. And testimony of her husband that she cited Kavanaugh specifically as her attacker.

Both years before the hearings. With the notes being from 2012.

The idea that she accused Kavanaugh for political reasons makes no sense. As when she shared the experience in couples therapy in 2012, there were no political implications. Its only now that there are.

From a women who said she can't hold a relationship with men, about a high school chum who's Mother was the Judge in her parents Bankruptcy. Oh, man, that's reliable. (again, you simply can't make this shit up)

 

[Skylar]

No. It’s what the evidence shows if you believe her.

Which we have no reason to since all the other parties involved denied this ever happened, she can’t name a time or the place it allegedly occurred. And she claims she was drinking so forgive us for using our brains, bigot

she accused him of attempted rape

youre saying she said no and he got up easy peasy and walked out.

the 2 things are very fuckin different, Mormon.

According to her he did get off her and leave.

wrong. according to her, she ESCAPED

From where?

She wont name a specific location because that could actually be corroborated and thus would bust her lie.

Says you, citing you. And you're nobody.

Meanwhile, she's willing to testify before congress on the matter.

She should be heard.

 

[pismoe]

i'm not backing out of anything , i couldn't vote for Rpy Moore . just saying that he was accused and there was NO Proof except for accusers words Gramps .

 

[Wyatt earp]

I don't know anyone who is the same person today that they were as a teenager 30 or 40 years ago.
Having said that should YOUR life be upended over unsubstantiated accusations from your youth? Matters not if you are guilty or not. The accusation alone will likely end your career or make things very difficult for you.
Is this who we are now as a nation? Have we truly tossed the scales of justice out the window and replaced them with guilty until proven innocent?

Stay on topic if you can.

I never attempted to rape a girl at 16 or 17.

If attempted forcible rape is something that you consider perfectly normal for a teenager, is there something you want to tell us, Gramps?

See ^^^^^
A perfect example of someone ignoring the principles our system is founded on.

You don't understand that we have CRIMINAL statute of limitations for this reason, however just because a person is no longer criminal liable for those actions doesn't mean they are no longer immoral. At no point did I ever sexually assault a girl as a kid. The worst thing as a teenager may have been shoplifting a candy bar under peer pressure or going out to toilet paper houses and corn cars.

So you are trying to tell us your a saint???


God damn if we held people accountable what they did when they were a kid we wouldn't have any politicians or judges.


Thank God the internet and computer records wasn't around when I was growing up


.

Attempted Forcible Rape is not 'things folks do when they are a kid'.

It's he said she said 30 plus years ago, and what's attempted foricble rape?

Some kids playing spin the bottle and dared to go in the closet together?


Let me guess you were a band fag..

.

 

[Lysistrata]

I don't know anyone who is the same person today that they were as a teenager 30 or 40 years ago.
Having said that should YOUR life be upended over unsubstantiated accusations from your youth? Matters not if you are guilty or not. The accusation alone will likely end your career or make things very difficult for you.
Is this who we are now as a nation? Have we truly tossed the scales of justice out the window and replaced them with guilty until proven innocent?

Stay on topic if you can.

------------------------------------ looks like its Guilty until Proved Innocent to me and its a shame . See Judge Roy Moore and now Kavanaugh . Started years ago in my opinion whenever sex accusations or sex crimes were involved and the POWERS Decided that woman should be treated differently then men .

Enough people have come forward to indicate that roy moore was Alabama's state whore and stalker well into his 30's. But he's a "conservative" and a gawd-fearin' bibble-banger.

Moore was at best a creep. We are better off without him.

You people who have supported him can't back out of this now and just dismiss it.

I never supported him so fuck off with this bullshit

So why did you never go after him and his supporters and not supported the people who accused him? You do realize that people like the orange whore in the Oval Office supported his candidacy and these people had to come out of anonymity and tell their stories. So many people supported the Alabama whore that he could have won a seat in the U.S. Senate, the upper house of our national legislative body.