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Eviscerating 'The Roosevelt Alibi'

h convinced people to care about their fellow Americans


I hope the government never "cares about" you enough to throw you into a concentration camp the way that fucking scumbag FDR did to so many innocent, loyal Americans.
Alright dude, I get it, the internment camps consume you.


All right "dude" I get that concentration camps are just fine with you as long as they are built on the order of a democrat.

In 1942 what was worse? The Japanese internment camps or lynchings in the south?

That was the era we are talking about


Are you living in the era of false analogies?

You are weak and getting weaker, while your herring is getting redder.

The 1940s were not a prime time for Civil Rights when looked at through a 2015 sensitivity

The treatment of blacks, Hispanics, women, gays and yes, even Japanese would not be tolerated today



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Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

We also recognized Germany and Japan in 1933

What was FDR thinking? He should have had 80 years of hindsight like you do
 
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.
 
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.

PC is not trying to be serious

Just another of her Ann Coulter trolls.

Watch me piss of the liberals
 
The RW hates the inclusion of the third freedom in FDR's Four Freedoms.
Fox News has been telling these righties what makes them comfortable for enough years now, almost 20, that they'll believe anything their only source for cable news tells them...no matter how contradictory to reality it is


RW was giving FDR credit for getting Stalin to fight the Nazi.

How believable it that?

Credit for not engaging US troops when we were not ready. Stalin demanded a second front at every meeting, FDR waited two years while Russians were being killed by the millions.
And you and PC whine about how Stalin got the best of him


Yepp.

Unlike Hitler and Stalin, both of whom did not listen to their Generals, FDR listened to ours, who told him it would take about 2 years to be able to open a second front.

FDR's actions led to us getting the maximum positive result for our side with the least possible US deaths and casualties and also led to us ending WII as the undisputed dominant Superpower in the world.

RWNJs can scream all they want, because, well, Benghazi, but at the end of the day, they cannot change facts.



"Unlike Hitler and Stalin, both of whom did not listen to their Generals, FDR listened to ours,..."

You can't resist pontificating on topics about which you know less than zero, can you, you fool?


1. .Stalin demanded 'a second front' be opened in Europe,to hinder Hitler's attacks on Russia....and a major question was whether it would be via Italy, or from northern France, i.e., Normandy.

Since Stalin's agenda had always been to occupy Eastern Europe, he, Stalin, ordered that it be via France, leaving the middle of Europe to the occupation by the Red Army.


2. The evidence is conclusive, however, that if Eisenhower's ideas had not been in full accord with those conceived before the war by Marshall and Hopkins, the planning assignment, the supreme command of the allied expeditionary forces, and the five stars that adorned his shoulders would have gone to some other general.
Chesly Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p.119



3. How about Eisenhower's assessment at the time?

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valley of the PO. In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would be closer to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961

Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....

" In December 1943, it was announced that Eisenhower would be Supreme Allied Commander in Europe."Military career of Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Exactly the opposite of what you posted.


4. BTW....Eisenhower halted US forces before they could liberate Berlin, Prague, and Vienna.

Who told him to do that?......And why do you suppose?
 
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.

PC is not trying to be serious

Just another of her Ann Coulter trolls.

Watch me piss of the liberals



Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.



I document, link, and source everything I post.

It's truth that pisses off Liberals.
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously.
GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.



'For some reason, I just can't take you seriously.'
That's your ignorance getting in the way.

This thread has nothing to do with Bush.
 
Holy crap.
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.

PC is not trying to be serious

Just another of her Ann Coulter trolls.

Watch me piss of the liberals



Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.



I document, link, and source everything I post.

It's truth that pisses off Liberals.
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously.
GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.



'For some reason, I just can't take you seriously.'
That's your ignorance getting in the way.

This thread has nothing to do with Bush.

No. It isn't. You realize FDR died in 1945? I am sure you know that. There are bigger and more relevant windmills to tilt at. My point.
 
Holy crap.
We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.




Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!
For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.
PC is not trying to be serious

Just another of her Ann Coulter trolls.

Watch me piss of the liberals


Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.



I document, link, and source everything I post.

It's truth that pisses off Liberals.
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously.
GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.



'For some reason, I just can't take you seriously.'
That's your ignorance getting in the way.

This thread has nothing to do with Bush.

No. It isn't. You realize FDR died in 1945? I am sure you know that. There are bigger and more relevant windmills to tilt at. My point.




Your 'point' is atop your head.

Does it write under water?
 
I hope the government never "cares about" you enough to throw you into a concentration camp the way that fucking scumbag FDR did to so many innocent, loyal Americans.
Alright dude, I get it, the internment camps consume you.


All right "dude" I get that concentration camps are just fine with you as long as they are built on the order of a democrat.

In 1942 what was worse? The Japanese internment camps or lynchings in the south?

That was the era we are talking about


Are you living in the era of false analogies?

You are weak and getting weaker, while your herring is getting redder.

The 1940s were not a prime time for Civil Rights when looked at through a 2015 sensitivity

The treatment of blacks, Hispanics, women, gays and yes, even Japanese would not be tolerated today



.


And that makes concentration camps ok with you? Great moral compass.
 
Alright dude, I get it, the internment camps consume you.


All right "dude" I get that concentration camps are just fine with you as long as they are built on the order of a democrat.

In 1942 what was worse? The Japanese internment camps or lynchings in the south?

That was the era we are talking about


Are you living in the era of false analogies?

You are weak and getting weaker, while your herring is getting redder.

The 1940s were not a prime time for Civil Rights when looked at through a 2015 sensitivity

The treatment of blacks, Hispanics, women, gays and yes, even Japanese would not be tolerated today



.


And that makes concentration camps ok with you? Great moral compass.

Doesn't make Jim Crow, lynching or a lack of women's rights OK either

Just a reflection of the times
 
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.

PC is not trying to be serious

Just another of her Ann Coulter trolls.

Watch me piss of the liberals



Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.



I document, link, and source everything I post.

It's truth that pisses off Liberals.
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously.
GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.



'For some reason, I just can't take you seriously.'
That's your ignorance getting in the way.

This thread has nothing to do with Bush.

PC celebrates her unrelated cut and pastes
 
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.

PC is not trying to be serious

Just another of her Ann Coulter trolls.

Watch me piss of the liberals

yep, thats all PoliticalSpice does. You will notice she has ZERO Rightie cheerleaders
 
Holy crap.
We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.




Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!
For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.
PC is not trying to be serious

Just another of her Ann Coulter trolls.

Watch me piss of the liberals


Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.



I document, link, and source everything I post.

It's truth that pisses off Liberals.
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously.
GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.



'For some reason, I just can't take you seriously.'
That's your ignorance getting in the way.

This thread has nothing to do with Bush.

No. It isn't. You realize FDR died in 1945? I am sure you know that. There are bigger and more relevant windmills to tilt at. My point.

it pangs PoliticalSpice that it took a Democratic President to git 'r done: saved this great nation in the War, and get reelected numerous times, and got this great nation on the world stage financially as a economic powerhouse. If I were a Fox-watching, rw kool aid drinker, I'd be pissed at him too
 
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Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.
The reason it's hard to take the anti FDR crowd seriously, is because there is not one of them that read history, and formed the opinion they hold based on what they read from multiple sources.

What they did was latch onto this GOP driven hit piece created specifically to assassinate the character of a Democratic icon.

During WWII, the American people didn't think much about the Russians being a threat, in fact, they knew very little about them.

The GOP has hung their hats on revisionism, and it's a necessary component of the larger GOP strategy of back seat political driving.

If only the GOP would have been in charge since the beginning, we wouldn't have any problems at all
 
Political chick is a HIM? My ex brother in law, a cop, suddenly he decided to divorce my sis and then HE became a SHE. Snip SNIP. Ouch! Take a walk on the wild side...Off topic. WAY off topic. I like FDR and approve of what he did. He did the best he could, and he was a smart man. Second guessing what he did doesn't matter much.
 
All right "dude" I get that concentration camps are just fine with you as long as they are built on the order of a democrat.

In 1942 what was worse? The Japanese internment camps or lynchings in the south?

That was the era we are talking about


Are you living in the era of false analogies?

You are weak and getting weaker, while your herring is getting redder.

The 1940s were not a prime time for Civil Rights when looked at through a 2015 sensitivity

The treatment of blacks, Hispanics, women, gays and yes, even Japanese would not be tolerated today



.


And that makes concentration camps ok with you? Great moral compass.

Doesn't make Jim Crow, lynching or a lack of women's rights OK either

Just a reflection of the times


What you are trying to do now is a deflection of the times.
 
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.
The reason it's hard to take the anti FDR crowd seriously, is because there is not one of them that read history, and formed the opinion they hold based on what they read from multiple sources.

What they did was latch onto this GOP driven hit piece created specifically to assassinate the character of a Democratic icon.

During WWII, the American people didn't think much about the Russians being a threat, in fact, they knew very little about them.

The GOP has hung their hats on revisionism, and it's a necessary component of the larger GOP strategy of back seat political driving.

If only the GOP would have been in charge since the beginning, we wouldn't have any problems at all

I know. Its laughable
 
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.
The reason it's hard to take the anti FDR crowd seriously, is because there is not one of them that read history...



Don't try to pretend your shameless hero worship means you are 'well read' in history, fool.
 
Bowing to popular requests.....here is another thread awarding Franklin Delano Roosevelt the contumely he so richly deserves! (Actually, the sort of fake requests by folks who really don't want the truth mentioned.)



1. For the Left, Franklin Roosevelt must be seen as the brilliant savior, not only of America, but of all of the Western world! And, toward that end, all of his endeavors in aiding and abetting Stalin have to be seen as saving the world from Nazism.....
(Notice how frequently the Left anoints 'saviors'?)



Get ready: here it comes...after all.....without Roosevelt's aid to Russia, Hitler would have defeated the USSR, and the rest of the world!!!
(Cue Toccata and Fugue in D minor)


That's the alibi that Roosevelt fans use to 'explain' Roosevelt's slavish, servile, obsequious conduct toward Joseph Stalin.


Is the alibi true?








Of course not.....nothing could be further from the truth.


Actually, here is the reality:
a. Stalin would not only not have surrendered, he would have defeated Hitler!

b. He used Roosevelt to make sure that there would be no German resistance to communism in Europe post war,

c. He forced Roosevelt to refuse to accept German surrender, or armistice, extending the war by several years, and costing hundreds of thousands of American lives.






2. Today, with the research unshrouded by wartime propaganda, who believes that Stalin would have surrendered to Hitler?
Only the usual suspects, the fools who still worship Franklin Roosevelt and need the mythology and hagiography to retain the Liberal worldview of history.


Two facts that make my argument:
a. Stalin could not care less how many Russian lives were lost.... and it was Stalin, rather than Hitler, who killed the most Russians.

b. The Russians were prepared for Hitler's attack; Hitler began Operation Barbarossa with only two months supplies...


And, get this: it is impossible to make an argument that Stalin was any better than Hitler. Stalin was smarter and more devious....and far more evil...than either Hitler or Roosevelt.




3. What the heck would lead anyone to believe that Stalin would surrender to Hitler???
The fabrication is central to any argument designed to shield Roosevelt, and explain his pandering to the homicidal maniac, Stalin.

Sans the view that everything Roosevelt did saved Russia from being steam-rollered by the Nazis, surrendering to Hitler, and giving Hitler a free hand in the west.....well.....the curtain is pulled aside, and everyone can see that the wizard of Hyde Park weren't no wizard at all!

He was to Stalin what pre-pubescent teeny-boppers are to Justin Bieber....love-sick.

We funded Russia because they were the enemy of our enemy. FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time. We also Funded Great Brittan. Brits and Europeans always credit Russia with winning the war, they always seem to leave that out. FDR wasn't a saint, true enough. But GW Bush, MR. WMDs that weren't there invading Iraq and destabilizing the area, lets get back to more relevant and recent political American villains.





Your post reeks of such abysmal ignorance, one scarcely knows where to begin.

Perhaps you should invest in a library card.

1. Roosevelt rushed to do what no previous President had chosen to do: recognize Russia and give it world entree.
That was 1933.
Who was the enemy he was shielding us from in 1933?

2. "FDR didn't know how much a monster Stalin was at the time."
Eight months earlier, journalist Gareth Jones had exposed Stalin's Terror Famine: "In the train a Communist denied to me that there was a famine. I flung a crust of bread which I had been eating from my own supply into a spittoon. A peasant fellow-passenger fished it out and ravenously ate it." Gareth Jones journalist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Malcolm Muggeridge "was the first writer to reveal the true nature of Stalin s regime when in 1933 he exposed the terror famine in the Ukraine. " Time and Eternity The Uncollected Writings of Malcolm Muggeridge Malcolm Muggeridge Nicholas Flynn 9781570759055 Amazon.com Books

Everyone knew, you dunce!

For some reason, I just can't take you seriously. Seriously. GW Bush invades a country after a major terrorist attack that had nothing to do with anything. FDR? Like your post, PC. Irrelevant. Moot.
The reason it's hard to take the anti FDR crowd seriously, is because there is not one of them that read history...



Don't try to pretend your shameless hero worship means you are 'well read' in history, fool.
I don't worship FDR, and my opinion of him as a successful leader, overall, during economic upheaval and war time, shouldn't be a factor to anyone in regards to how well read I am in history. Not sure why you chose that aimless thought process.

I wouldn't call myself an expert on "history", but I've probably read a few dozen history books in the last 10 years. Seen plenty of well done documentaries on the BBC and PBS, and follow politics pretty closely. I never claimed anything more.

What I can tell you is that nothing I've posted in this thread came from just one source, or one book.

What you also might notice is that my posts to you do not end with profanity or insults. That speaks to how rational you are
 

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