‘Explosive documents’ connect Christie, bridge scandal

[deltex1]

Are you really that afraid of the fat man?

 

[hunarcy]

For year, Christie was our conservative media's golden boy, the one who spelled doom for Obama and could do no wrong. And now that conservative media has major egg on their face. And it's very satisfying for liberals to see our conservative media get humiliated as a result of the way they buttkiss conservatives.

It's also satisfying to see the conservatives flailing, driven to repeating all their crazy lies about Obama, and declaring how they never liked Christie anyways, despite what they may have said last week.

Next up, Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, hopefully. He's also got the conservative media doing that big smoochy buttkissing thing for him. Conservatives, you might want to start saying now how you never really liked Walker, so you don't get caught by surprise like you did with Christie.

Christie was built up by the MSM in the same way they built up McCain. And, they chose Christie for the same reason they chose McCain...he'd be easy to knock down when the time came.

I suppose that since he's polling so well against HRC, it's time. (What they don't realize is that HRC will not be the Democratic nominee. Brian Schweitzer is going to see to that!)

 

[percysunshine]

Shades of Chicago thuggery:

Top Christie Staff Sought Lane Closings as Revenge

Using vital thoroughfares to lean on people for endorsements?

How else is he going to get the Democrat vote in 2016?

.

 

[hunarcy]

Shades of Chicago thuggery:

Top Christie Staff Sought Lane Closings as Revenge

Using vital thoroughfares to lean on people for endorsements?

How else is he going to get the Democrat vote in 2016?

.

Buy it, like some Democrats do. LOL!

 

[percysunshine]

Shades of Chicago thuggery:

Top Christie Staff Sought Lane Closings as Revenge

Using vital thoroughfares to lean on people for endorsements?

How else is he going to get the Democrat vote in 2016?

.

Buy it, like some Democrats do. LOL!

Naw...he needs the bonafides. A blow job from an intern will seal the deal.

Trust me. Axelrod is jealous that he did not think of traffic patterns first.

.

 

[Amelia]

I was just reminded of one of the many reasons that so many conservatives washed their hands of Christie in the last couple of years -- how he wouldn't give the time of day to Ken Cuccinelli in Virginia.

Christie is all about himself. Not about New Jersey. Not about any party or ideology. Just about himself.

He has some charisma -- enough to make the GOP sit up and take notice when he burst onto the scene and enough to get some crazies to do hateful things for him. But he won't have your back. Why should anyone have his?

 

[hunarcy]

Seriously.

It wasn't "wrong". It was a lie.

The Bush administration cherry picked intelligence and tried to cobble it to fulfill the agenda of the PNAC.

They've been trying to get the US to invade since Clinton and the Saudis have been pushing for an invasion well before that.

Bush lied. So much so that Powell was embarrassed by the stuff he had to present to the UN..which is why they gave up on that.

But congress were different. They were scared and compliant. Mapping 9/11 to Iraq as well as the possibility of nuclear attack was a loathsome but effective thing to do.

Now, YOU are just lying. The Bush Administration didn't say anything about Iraq that the Clinton Administration had not said...that's because the intelligence built on itself and once they missed Saddam getting rid of the stuff that he'd been given in the 80's and knowing that as early as March 27, 1979, Saddam had announced he wanted nuclear weapons, they believed he had 'em and was working to obtain more.

Remember, Saddam was becoming more and more combative toward the end of the Clinton Administration. There was nothing to indicate he was trying to be friendly.

Not lying at all.

The Bush administration mapped Iraq to the 9/11 attacks. Cheney directly said that Saddam had an affiliation with Al Qaeda.

In any case, anyone with half a brain knows that the sanctions and multiple wars left Iraq a dessicated husk almost incapable of defending itself let alone launch attacks.

It was amazing that anyone ate that up.

Fear is an amazing thing.

ALL that was said was that 9/11 showed us the folly of ignoring threats and that after an attack was too late to react.

Cheney may have believed that, but Bush did not and said loudly and often that he didn't believe that Saddam had ties to the 9/11 attack.

When Putin said that Saddam was planning to send suicide bombers to attack US malls and other soft targets, why would that seem impossible to you? Low tech and easy to organize, it's what a nation that is a desiccated husk WOULD do to attack its tormentors.

 

[R.D.]

I was just reminded of one of the many reasons that so many conservatives washed their hands of Christie in the last couple of years -- how he wouldn't give the time of day to Ken Cuccinelli in Virginia.

Christie is all about himself. Not about New Jersey. Not about any party or ideology. Just about himself.

He has some charisma -- enough to make the GOP sit up and take notice when he burst onto the scene and enough to get some crazies to do hateful things for him. But he won't have your back. Why should anyone have his?

Before that he refused to appoint a Republican to Lautenburgs seat.

 

[percysunshine]

I was just reminded of one of the many reasons that so many conservatives washed their hands of Christie in the last couple of years -- how he wouldn't give the time of day to Ken Cuccinelli in Virginia.

Christie is all about himself. Not about New Jersey. Not about any party or ideology. Just about himself.

He has some charisma -- enough to make the GOP sit up and take notice when he burst onto the scene and enough to get some crazies to do hateful things for him. But he won't have your back. Why should anyone have his?

I was just reminded of one of the many reasons that so many liberals washed their hands of Obama in the last couple of years -- how he wouldn't give the time of day to Hillary Clinton.

Obama is all about himself. Not about America. Not about any party or ideology. Just about himself.

He has some charisma -- enough to make the DNC sit up and take notice when he burst onto the scene and enough to get some crazies to do hateful things for him. But he won't have your back. Why should anyone have his?

 

[hunarcy]

What did liberals do that was so offensive to the conservatives? Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. Liberals created Medicare. Liberals passed the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act. What did Conservatives do? They opposed them on every one of those things. So when you try to hurl that label at my feet, ‘Liberal,’ as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from, it won’t work, because I will pick up that label and I will wear it as a badge of honor. - Lawrence O’Donnell Jr.

Conservatives don't object to women voting. Democrats opposed Blacks voting, while Republicans led a war to free Blacks and ensure they were treated as full citizens. Democrats opposed desegregation, not just in the South, but in the Northern States as well, it took a Republican President (Richard Nixon) to make Affirmative Action work in the 70's as well as the Clean Air Act, and the Clean Water Act. (Nixon wanted to ensure that the Cayuga River never caught fire again, as it had done just after he was sworn in). You may try to rewrite history, but it's not an effective debating tool.

 

[Dot Com]

No, it was based on information that was wrong and had been wrong for over a decade. Even Saddam's people were shocked that there were no WMDs to defend themselves with at the beginning of the invasion.

Seriously.

It wasn't "wrong". It was a lie.

The Bush administration cherry picked intelligence and tried to cobble it to fulfill the agenda of the PNAC.

They've been trying to get the US to invade since Clinton and the Saudis have been pushing for an invasion well before that.

Bush lied. So much so that Powell was embarrassed by the stuff he had to present to the UN..which is why they gave up on that.

But congress were different. They were scared and compliant. Mapping 9/11 to Iraq as well as the possibility of nuclear attack was a loathsome but effective thing to do.

Now, YOU are just lying. The Bush Administration didn't say anything about Iraq that the Clinton Administration had not said...that's because the intelligence built on itself and once they missed Saddam getting rid of the stuff that he'd been given in the 80's and knowing that as early as March 27, 1979, Saddam had announced he wanted nuclear weapons, they believed he had 'em and was working to obtain more.

Remember, Saddam was becoming more and more combative toward the end of the Clinton Administration. There was nothing to indicate he was trying to be friendly.

Read about this guy & get back to us:

Douglas J. Feith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Feith proved influential in having Richard Perle chosen as chairman of the Defense Policy Board. Feith was criticized during the first term of the Bush administration for creating the Office of Strategic Influence. This office came into existence to support the War on Terror. The office's aim was to influence policymakers by submitting biased news stories into the foreign media. Feith played a significant role in the build up to the Iraq war. As part of his portfolio, he supervised the Pentagon Office of Special Plans, a group of policy and intelligence analysts created to provide senior government officials with raw intelligence, unvetted by the intelligence community. The office, eventually dismantled, was later criticized in Congress and the media for analysis that was contradicted by CIA analysis and investigations performed following the invasion of Iraq. General Tommy Franks, who led both the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan and the Iraq War, once called Feith "the dumbest fucking guy on the planet."

 

[TemplarKormac]

 

[hunarcy]

Seriously.

It wasn't "wrong". It was a lie.

The Bush administration cherry picked intelligence and tried to cobble it to fulfill the agenda of the PNAC.

They've been trying to get the US to invade since Clinton and the Saudis have been pushing for an invasion well before that.

Bush lied. So much so that Powell was embarrassed by the stuff he had to present to the UN..which is why they gave up on that.

But congress were different. They were scared and compliant. Mapping 9/11 to Iraq as well as the possibility of nuclear attack was a loathsome but effective thing to do.

Now, YOU are just lying. The Bush Administration didn't say anything about Iraq that the Clinton Administration had not said...that's because the intelligence built on itself and once they missed Saddam getting rid of the stuff that he'd been given in the 80's and knowing that as early as March 27, 1979, Saddam had announced he wanted nuclear weapons, they believed he had 'em and was working to obtain more.

Remember, Saddam was becoming more and more combative toward the end of the Clinton Administration. There was nothing to indicate he was trying to be friendly.

Read about this guy & get back to us:

Douglas J. Feith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Feith proved influential in having Richard Perle chosen as chairman of the Defense Policy Board. Feith was criticized during the first term of the Bush administration for creating the Office of Strategic Influence. This office came into existence to support the War on Terror. The office's aim was to influence policymakers by submitting biased news stories into the foreign media. Feith played a significant role in the build up to the Iraq war. As part of his portfolio, he supervised the Pentagon Office of Special Plans, a group of policy and intelligence analysts created to provide senior government officials with raw intelligence, unvetted by the intelligence community. The office, eventually dismantled, was later criticized in Congress and the media for analysis that was contradicted by CIA analysis and investigations performed following the invasion of Iraq. General Tommy Franks, who led both the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan and the Iraq War, once called Feith "the dumbest fucking guy on the planet."

Did Feth speak for Bush? Did he speak for the whole Administration?

 

[Dot Com]

Now, YOU are just lying. The Bush Administration didn't say anything about Iraq that the Clinton Administration had not said...that's because the intelligence built on itself and once they missed Saddam getting rid of the stuff that he'd been given in the 80's and knowing that as early as March 27, 1979, Saddam had announced he wanted nuclear weapons, they believed he had 'em and was working to obtain more.

Remember, Saddam was becoming more and more combative toward the end of the Clinton Administration. There was nothing to indicate he was trying to be friendly.

Read about this guy & get back to us:

Douglas J. Feith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Feith proved influential in having Richard Perle chosen as chairman of the Defense Policy Board. Feith was criticized during the first term of the Bush administration for creating the Office of Strategic Influence. This office came into existence to support the War on Terror. The office's aim was to influence policymakers by submitting biased news stories into the foreign media. Feith played a significant role in the build up to the Iraq war. As part of his portfolio, he supervised the Pentagon Office of Special Plans, a group of policy and intelligence analysts created to provide senior government officials with raw intelligence, unvetted by the intelligence community. The office, eventually dismantled, was later criticized in Congress and the media for analysis that was contradicted by CIA analysis and investigations performed following the invasion of Iraq. General Tommy Franks, who led both the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan and the Iraq War, once called Feith "the dumbest fucking guy on the planet."

Did Feth speak for Bush? Did he speak for the whole Administration?

I know. Do you. I doubt it. Thats why I said get back to us He was a Bu$h II appointee placed inside the Pentagon to put out info that favored invasion smart guy. Figure it out

 

[Joe Steel]

Who benefited from the traffic jam? The woman who died because the ambulance was caught in it?

I'm surprised a lot more hasn't been made of this. In fact, if it can be proved the vindictive lane closures caused or contributed to that woman's death there could be serious criminal charges imposed on whoever caused or conspired to cause the unnecessary lane closures.

Almost no mention was made of all the kids who were late to school, or how many people were late for work, or who missed important appointments, or how much fuel was wasted, and how much wastefully unnecessary police and bridge employee overtime was caused by this political thuggery. The collective monetary cost of this outrageous misuse of authority could be considerable. Whoever is responsible could and should be sued to recover that cost in addition to the criminal charges.

That's how it looks to me. Even if this were a "prank," it would be reckless disregard. The fact that it was intended to do just what it did makes it look like depraved indifference.

 

[HomeInspect]

Who was fired after David Foy was murdered?

Was there even a Republican calling for an investigation?

Were you?

How does that change my point? Who was caught lying and needed to be fired? Try to stay on topic

You're talking about staying on topic in a thread about Christie's bridge scandal while bringing up Benghazi?

That takes the fucking cake.

Yes. It is right on topic. The question of the double standard and doing what's right. The Benghazi issue was used as a comparison. One person is fired for lying, the other is promoted. Try to spin it any way you want.. but you are looking very foolish trying.

 

[HomeInspect]

Christie finds a staff member (Bridget Kelly) who lied over a traffic jam.. she got fired immedialtley. Susan Rice goes on five different networks and lies about Beghanzi, where four Americans are slaughtered while pleading for help, and she gets promoted.... and more than a year later, not one person is held accountable.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Let's look at it like this, a friend of mine pointed this out to me on Facebook a few minutes ago:

A liberal like Ted Kennedy can drive a woman off a bridge, serve nearly five decades in the Senate and be hailed as a courageous leader and a hero. But if a Republican shuts down a bridge, leftists are ready to tar and feather the man. Furthermore lest we forget what Obama himself did to our tourists and veterans after Republicans shut down the government, hoping they would take a hit politically. Just a burning question: but why is what Christie (or his aides) did any different?

Christie isn't my first choice for C in C, granted, but hey he's acted like one by firing people responsible for this. Which is more than you can say for the Obama administration. Has Obama fired anyone at the IRS? Has Obama fired anyone at the State Department for Benghazi? Has Obama fired anyone at the Justice Department for Fast and Furious? The answer would be no, no and no.

Forgive me for saying so, but something just isn't right here at all.

Why such effusive praise for Christie firing these people?

Their emails convicted them. Firing them at that point was easy.

Because Obama would have promoted them as the bulk of the media looked the other way.

Laugh of the day...

I heard a clip from Foxnews on MSNBC just a bit ago and you got the above line right off Fox and Friends.

The 'far left propaganda!!' guy ventures off his broken record just long enough to parrot something he heard on Foxnews!!!!

...you can't make this shit up!!

 

[mamooth]

Christie was built up by the MSM in the same way they built up McCain.

Yes, our conservative media loved McCain. And they still do. That media adoration for McCain hasn't faded at all. McCain is still the darling of the talk shows, the guy who the media still breathlessly and inexplicably seeks the opinion of on every issue.

 

[Amelia]

Christie was built up by the MSM in the same way they built up McCain.

Yes, our conservative media loved McCain. And they still do. That media adoration for McCain hasn't faded at all. McCain is still the darling of the talk shows, the guy who the media still breathlessly and inexplicably seeks the opinion of on every issue.

What are you talking about?

McCain was endorsed by such organizations as the NYT ... until he got the GOP nomination ... and then he was a pinata.

Now McCain is a man without a base.

Christie was supposed to be the new pre-nomination McCain. But this scandal broke too soon.