Fact Checked

[Slade3200]

“Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” Mueller wrote. “The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.”

In the final analysis after nearly three whole years of an investigation Robert Captain America Mueller did what he wanted to do. No one stopped or redirected him. No one impeded or stymied him.

So, what does that have to do with anything? Read what the law says about obstruction of Justice is before you answer

 

[Wyatt earp]

No just going by your narrative.


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Why would you go by my narrative if you disagree with it?

Because when talking to uneducated voters who are fixated on MSM....


Btw the murder of Seth was never solved, it is still a cold case.


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Seth?! You mean the story that Hannity and Fox has to retract and apologize for? Aka Fake News?!?! Ok buddy keep running with that!

So do your duty as a citizen and tell the police who killed him.


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Ok, Bear did it. Go turn yourself in please!

I would expect something more from you...

A cold case is a cold case, until the absolute truth is known

 

[Slade3200]

Are you really trying to say that if somebody isn’t charged with a crime it means they didnt do anything wrong? So under those standards Hillary can say that the FBI found she did nothing wrong regarding her email server?

It means law enforcement has failed to prosecute their case. Hillary Clinton remains "innocent" of the crimes she so blatantly committed until the time the law takes up her case again, if ever.

In the case of Hillary James Comey ran through a whole laundry list of ways in which she abused and broke the law but
then said no prosecutor would say she intended to break the law, which is just obvious horse shit!

So in leftist land we have a person who is as guilty as sin, Hillary, yet who the government refuses to prosecute vs. Donald Trump, who a special prosecutor has been unable to find any proof of collusion, yet the Jacobites want him charged with something anyway.

You gotta love the hypocrisy coming out here. Hillary was guilty and only not charged because the deep state covered for her. And Trump is innocent because he wasn’t charged. Great argument

 

[Wyatt earp]

“Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” Mueller wrote. “The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.”

In the final analysis after nearly three whole years of an investigation Robert Captain America Mueller did what he wanted to do. No one stopped or redirected him. No one impeded or stymied him.

So, what does that have to do with anything? Read what the law says about obstruction of Justice is before you answer

Later, when making recommendations to the Department of Justice, Comey said in July 2016:

"In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here."


Translation~ Hillary was to big to fry, but the little sailor guy taking a picture for keepsake on a sub was


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[Slade3200]

Why would you go by my narrative if you disagree with it?

Because when talking to uneducated voters who are fixated on MSM....


Btw the murder of Seth was never solved, it is still a cold case.


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Seth?! You mean the story that Hannity and Fox has to retract and apologize for? Aka Fake News?!?! Ok buddy keep running with that!

So do your duty as a citizen and tell the police who killed him.


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Ok, Bear did it. Go turn yourself in please!

I would expect something more from you...

A cold case is a cold case, until the absolute truth is known

If it was known then the killer would be in jail and Hannity wouldn’t be tucking tail and retracting his story. Face it, whatever convinced you that Hillary had Seth killed was utter horseshit. It was obviously the owner of the pizza shop that Hillary ran her porn ring out of.

 

[Slade3200]

“Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” Mueller wrote. “The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.”

In the final analysis after nearly three whole years of an investigation Robert Captain America Mueller did what he wanted to do. No one stopped or redirected him. No one impeded or stymied him.

So, what does that have to do with anything? Read what the law says about obstruction of Justice is before you answer

Later, when making recommendations to the Department of Justice, Comey said in July 2016:

"In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here."


Translation~ Hillary was to big to fry, but the little sailor guy taking a picture for keepsake on a sub was


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You shouldn’t try and translate languages that you don’t speak.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Because when talking to uneducated voters who are fixated on MSM....


Btw the murder of Seth was never solved, it is still a cold case.


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Seth?! You mean the story that Hannity and Fox has to retract and apologize for? Aka Fake News?!?! Ok buddy keep running with that!

So do your duty as a citizen and tell the police who killed him.


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Ok, Bear did it. Go turn yourself in please!

I would expect something more from you...

A cold case is a cold case, until the absolute truth is known

If it was known then the killer would be in jail and Hannity wouldn’t be tucking tail and retracting his story. Face it, whatever convinced you that Hillary had Seth killed was utter horseshit. It was obviously the owner of the pizza shop that Hillary ran her porn ring out of.

Don't put words in my mouth, when did I say Hillary had him killed?

Your stuck on not even looking at the facts.

 

[Wyatt earp]

“Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” Mueller wrote. “The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.”

In the final analysis after nearly three whole years of an investigation Robert Captain America Mueller did what he wanted to do. No one stopped or redirected him. No one impeded or stymied him.

So, what does that have to do with anything? Read what the law says about obstruction of Justice is before you answer

Later, when making recommendations to the Department of Justice, Comey said in July 2016:

"In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here."


Translation~ Hillary was to big to fry, but the little sailor guy taking a picture for keepsake on a sub was


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You shouldn’t try and translate languages that you don’t speak.

Yeah it's real hard to out bullshit a bullshitter like you.

 

[Slade3200]

Seth?! You mean the story that Hannity and Fox has to retract and apologize for? Aka Fake News?!?! Ok buddy keep running with that!

So do your duty as a citizen and tell the police who killed him.


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Ok, Bear did it. Go turn yourself in please!

I would expect something more from you...

A cold case is a cold case, until the absolute truth is known

If it was known then the killer would be in jail and Hannity wouldn’t be tucking tail and retracting his story. Face it, whatever convinced you that Hillary had Seth killed was utter horseshit. It was obviously the owner of the pizza shop that Hillary ran her porn ring out of.

Don't put words in my mouth, when did I say Hillary had him killed?

Your stuck on not even looking at the facts.

What makes you believe that you are presenting facts?

 

[Slade3200]

“Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” Mueller wrote. “The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.”

In the final analysis after nearly three whole years of an investigation Robert Captain America Mueller did what he wanted to do. No one stopped or redirected him. No one impeded or stymied him.

So, what does that have to do with anything? Read what the law says about obstruction of Justice is before you answer

Later, when making recommendations to the Department of Justice, Comey said in July 2016:

"In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here."


Translation~ Hillary was to big to fry, but the little sailor guy taking a picture for keepsake on a sub was


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You shouldn’t try and translate languages that you don’t speak.

Yeah it's real hard to out bullshit a bullshitter like you.

You are doing a fine job

 

[skookerasbil]

Directly from page 9 of the Mueller report. "Further, the evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election. " Now that you know the truth, quit making an ass out of yourself publicly. It isn't becoming.

Have you read volume II? We understand that Mueller couldn't put conspiracy before collude, but collude with Russians was proven from multiple sources. Do you understand the difference between a conspiracy to collude with Russia, and collusion with Russia? Both are bad.

Why are they bad, cherry picker?

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Collusion in a presidential campaign using a foreign source, who by the way, were not our friends, who we had sanctions against, where the Trump campaign knowingly and willfully tried to use them to get dirt on Clinton, was immoral, and unethical. And the fact that we have new evidence of a conspiracy to collude between Flynn and Turkey to get dirt on Clinton, for who flynn was paid, proves there was in fact a conspiracy to collude.

Nobody cares about Flynn and Turkey. The only person in the country talking about it is.....you!

I don't think so. The judge in the case is red hot about it right now. And by the way, what is your defense? The information put out is accurate, because it was written down, it's on an email, and we have it on audio.

Maybe the judge cares about it but nobody else does.

s0n....its all in the political realm now. You might not get it right now....but you will!!

Wait'll Bill Barr gets rolling....Oy.......things gonna get fucked up for the Dums

 

[BWK]

Have you read volume II? We understand that Mueller couldn't put conspiracy before collude, but collude with Russians was proven from multiple sources. Do you understand the difference between a conspiracy to collude with Russia, and collusion with Russia? Both are bad.

Why are they bad, cherry picker?

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Collusion in a presidential campaign using a foreign source, who by the way, were not our friends, who we had sanctions against, where the Trump campaign knowingly and willfully tried to use them to get dirt on Clinton, was immoral, and unethical. And the fact that we have new evidence of a conspiracy to collude between Flynn and Turkey to get dirt on Clinton, for who flynn was paid, proves there was in fact a conspiracy to collude.

Nobody cares about Flynn and Turkey. The only person in the country talking about it is.....you!

I don't think so. The judge in the case is red hot about it right now. And by the way, what is your defense? The information put out is accurate, because it was written down, it's on an email, and we have it on audio.

Maybe the judge cares about it but nobody else does.

s0n....its all in the political realm now. You might not get it right now....but you will!!

Wait'll Bill Barr gets rolling....Oy.......things gonna get fucked up for the Dums

So, you have no defense, and the judge is irrelevant, because according to you, "nobody cares about it." Lol! And you know this how? Hell, you never heard about it until I brought it up. All these Republican losers on here have been blind sided by the news. They don't know what to do with it. I'll bet the judge does, because he has the transcripts.

 

[BWK]

Ok neither of your points dispute anything that I’ve said. I don’t care what Ken starr says. It has nothing to do with my statement explaining what mueller said about feeling he couldn’t accuse the president of any crimes so he punted to congress. I don’t agree with what he did but that is what happened.

You don't find it amazing and unlikely the NY Times is siding with Ken Starr on this
and possibly disagreeing with Robert Mueller? Really? Okay....

Also the report never said No Obstruction so how about you concede that Trump lies about that one.

I haven't seen anything specifically that could be considered a lie. Why do I need to make your case for you? Is it that weak?

Also, you can think the case for obstruction is ridiculous all you want. I never said it was strong or weak, I just said that mueller obviously did not clear trump.

Sounds like even you will not defend the idea of obstruction. Smart move.

I don’t defend obstruction because I think it is a weak case and not worth impeaching a president over although he is obviously guilty of intended obstruction. But he wasn’t found to have committed conspiracy and didn’t do anything that substantially impacted the investigation, so move on.

All you need is motive and intent for an obstruction case.

 

[BWK]

Have you read volume II? We understand that Mueller couldn't put conspiracy before collude, but collude with Russians was proven from multiple sources. Do you understand the difference between a conspiracy to collude with Russia, and collusion with Russia? Both are bad.

Why are they bad, cherry picker?

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Collusion in a presidential campaign using a foreign source, who by the way, were not our friends, who we had sanctions against, where the Trump campaign knowingly and willfully tried to use them to get dirt on Clinton, was immoral, and unethical. And the fact that we have new evidence of a conspiracy to collude between Flynn and Turkey to get dirt on Clinton, for who flynn was paid, proves there was in fact a conspiracy to collude.

Nobody cares about Flynn and Turkey. The only person in the country talking about it is.....you!

I don't think so. The judge in the case is red hot about it right now. And by the way, what is your defense? The information put out is accurate, because it was written down, it's on an email, and we have it on audio.

Maybe the judge cares about it but nobody else does.

s0n....its all in the political realm now. You might not get it right now....but you will!!

Wait'll Bill Barr gets rolling....Oy.......things gonna get fucked up for the Dums

Barr is going to be held in contempt. That's the only thing he'll be rolling with.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Yes, thank you, same shit different party

With the exception of the important distinction that Trump went through a long protracted investigation, nearly three years, by the government and the special prosecutor could find nothing with which to charge him but refuses to exonerate him either. That's what makes this politicized witch hunt such an impossible pill to swallow.

On the other hand Hillary had a joke "investigation" by James Comey's FBI with all sorts of procedural irregularities, like interviewing Clinton aides together instead of separately which is unheard of in bureau annals. Congressional investigators find irregularities in FBI's handling of Clinton email case
She was exonerated by Comey claiming no prosecutor could divine her intent....really.

Same shit? Not really.

 

[Care4all]

What it's to complicated to figure out how it all started?

If we were in kindergarten it would be called "Hillary got her hand caught in the cookie jar and blamed little Donald for rating her out to the teacher"


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You give Clinton too much credit. The intelligence investigations had nothing to do with her. Mueller was hired by Trump appointed Rosenstein after the election and because of Flynn lying about meeting with Russians and Trump firing Comey for not dropping the Flynn and Russia investigation. Simple as that

No Trump fired Comey for meddeling in a US election, he deserved to be fired for costing Hillary the Election


Simple as that.



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That’s not what Trump said on national tv with Lester Holt. Nice try, but like Trump, you got your foot in your mouth

Nor was it what Trump said to the Russians who did interfere in our election, when he brought them gleefully, to the Oval Office the day after he fired Comey....

Hillary interfered in Russias Election, Russia payed her back. That's how the real world works, you play with fire you will get burned.

That is simply NOT TRUE! A lie.

She spoke out AFTER Putin's election, and AFTER all the Video Russians took of Putin's men stuffing the ballot boxes came forth by Russians.

She DID NOT INTERFERE in his election.... she spoke out afterwards, and after there was proof of him/ his minions stuffing the ballot boxes.... that pissed Putin off, being the narcissist that he is.... Other country leaders spoke up about the ballot stuffing too.

Try again.

 

[kwc57]

The Steele dossier is a right wing talking point used to try and turn the tables onto the Dems and distract from the heat put in Trump. Ive listened to Hannity on the radio go nuts about It for over a year now. Problem is they have spun up this crazy narrative that just doesn’t line up with reality. He is a pro at doing that

Trump–Russia dossier - Wikipedia
Sure. Day is night. Up is down. Hot is cold. The Steele dossier wasn't a Hillary Clinton/Fusion GPS project designed to smear and destroy Donald Trump (ala the Russian hookers golden showers rumor).

Discredited former British M-6 Intelligence Russian expert, agent Christopher Steele, has disavowed his own handiwork and now says he can't vouch for any of the information gathered mostly from Russian sources in his dossier designed
to torpedo candidate Donald Trump.

What could be more appropriate and on point than getting to the bottom of this document and tracking down the British-Russian-American intelligence links when trying to unravel the issue of Russian interference in our election?

But Robert Mueller, who was supposed to investigate wherever the tracks led, for some reason just couldn't be bothered to investigate the central issue of the whole collusion issue, the dossier used to justify spying on the Trump campaign even though James Comey knew this document was an utter work of fiction.

Has anyone asked Captain America Mueller why his time and effort was used to catch small inconsequential fish like Paul Manafort or General Michael Flynn while he utterly ignored the Russian influenced Steele dossier?
Your gutless laughable denial tells us all much about Mueller and his partisan inquisition.

The dossier wasn’t used for shit. It was oppo research that Clinton’s team did nothing with. Intelligence found it and informed Trump. It was leaked and then reported as an unsubstantiated document by buzzfeed AFTER Trump was elected. If it was planned to be used in coordination with Russia to spread disinformation to hurt Trump in the election then it was the worst executed plan ever.

You have a little bullshit in the corner of your mouth. Your fantasy is totally devoid of any truth or fact.

Name one thing that I said that isn’t true

That the dossier wasn't used for shit for starters. That just pure unadulterated bullshit and you know it. It was the primary source used to obtain FISA warrants multiple times. Comey has stated under oath that it wasn't reliable, yet they used it anyway in an effort to affect his campaign and the election and when that failed, to disrupt and possibly remove him from office. THAT is a conspiracy and attempted coup.

 

[kwc57]

Page 9 of the Mueller report. "Further, the evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election." Evidence not sufficient is a fancy way of saying there was no there there. No conspiracy, no collusion.

You are half right... there was no conspiracy, but collusion is not the same thing. Trump lying when he said he had no contacts with Russians, Flynn lying about meeting with Russians. Don Jr, and Kush lying about meeting at trump tower, the prez helping with a cover story, manafort giving polling data to Russians... all this is collusion. It’s all outlined plus more in Muellers report.

Here is the definition of collusion Incase you forgot...

Collusion is a secret cooperation or deceitful agreement in order to deceive others, although not necessarily illegal, as a conspiracy.

So, nothing illegal. Now, get Hillary to explain the whole hiring of a foreign national to talk to Russian agents for dirt on Trump and getting her buddy Obama's intelligence apparatus to do a bogus investigation in hopes of ruining his campaign and having him removed after elected. That isn't collusion, that is conspiracy and it is illegal.

Hillary Clinton's Russia collusion IOU: The answers she owes America

Damn, you got your head so far up Hannities ass you can’t think straight. Wish you could hear how stupid that narrative you just laid out sounds.

Steele didn’t conspire with Russia on anything illegal. He gathered dirt, they gave the dirt to the FBI, the FBI told Trump, it was leaked to the public after the election was over. Clinton didn’t use the dossier or spread lies about Trump during the campaign. Get your facts straight. I laugh every time I hear you all try and turn the table in Clinton over this dossier thing. Such a weak argument

I hope you have a nice warm, soft blanket to snuggle into when you attempt to calm yourself with your delusions. Reality says you're full of shit, but don't let that stop you. Put your stupidity on display so everyone can enjoy a good laugh. Moron.

Wow, you really are an empty box aren’t ya?! That’s two posts in a row that you have only responded with insults and having failed to make a counter argument or prove me wrong with substance. That’s the characteristic of somebody who doesn’t have the facts or the intellect behind them to engage in a debate. Do better.

No Brainiac, that's the characteristic of someone dealing with a clueless, obtuse, close minded idiot. You aren't worth responding to in any other way because you ignore fact and evidence in favor of your misguided and debunked beliefs. Pound sand.

 

[kwc57]

Joy Behar and other deep thinkers called it "sedition" when it was thought, but never proved, that Donald Trump was colluding with Russia. What Clinton, Obama, Comey, Mueller, etc. is guilty of is no less than sedition.

That's a lie. It was proved that Trump was colluding with Russia.

Directly from page 9 of the Mueller report. "Further, the evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election. " Now that you know the truth, quit making an ass out of yourself publicly. It isn't becoming.

Have you read volume II? We understand that Mueller couldn't put conspiracy before collude, but collude with Russians was proven from multiple sources. Do you understand the difference between a conspiracy to collude with Russia, and collusion with Russia? Both are bad.

Why are they bad, cherry picker?

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Collusion in a presidential campaign using a foreign source, who by the way, were not our friends, who we had sanctions against, where the Trump campaign knowingly and willfully tried to use them to get dirt on Clinton, was immoral, and unethical. And the fact that we have new evidence of a conspiracy to collude between Flynn and Turkey to get dirt on Clinton, for who flynn was paid, proves there was in fact a conspiracy to collude.

So you want to hold them accountable for the same thing Hillary Clinton did in her campaign? Duly noted. Hypocrite.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You give Clinton too much credit. The intelligence investigations had nothing to do with her. Mueller was hired by Trump appointed Rosenstein after the election and because of Flynn lying about meeting with Russians and Trump firing Comey for not dropping the Flynn and Russia investigation. Simple as that

No Trump fired Comey for meddeling in a US election, he deserved to be fired for costing Hillary the Election


Simple as that.



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That’s not what Trump said on national tv with Lester Holt. Nice try, but like Trump, you got your foot in your mouth

Nor was it what Trump said to the Russians who did interfere in our election, when he brought them gleefully, to the Oval Office the day after he fired Comey....

Hillary interfered in Russias Election, Russia payed her back. That's how the real world works, you play with fire you will get burned.

That is simply NOT TRUE! A lie.

She spoke out AFTER Putin's election, and AFTER all the Video Russians took of Putin's men stuffing the ballot boxes came forth by Russians.

She DID NOT INTERFERE in his election.... she spoke out afterwards, and after there was proof of him/ his minions stuffing the ballot boxes.... that pissed Putin off, being the narcissist that he is.... Other country leaders spoke up about the ballot stuffing too.

Try again.

Tell that to Putin



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