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The great fascist government in our history was that of George W. Bush, with the intermingling of government and business. The difference between Roosevelt and Bush's types of fascism were that the people won over business in FDR's administrations.
Trot along, PC. You truly do not have the tools necessary for a successful blogging career.
^ that
Yes. Roosevelt was a fascist dictator. Whew! We barely survived his reign of terror!
1. "...structures that bear actual fascist symbolsthose of the United States government, no less. Bizarre as it seems, many federal buildings in Washington were designed prominently with fasces, the emblem of Italian dictator Benito Mussolinis twentieth-century regime. Even more surprisingly, these structures were erected in the 1920s and 1930sjust as Mussolini was ornamenting Italys government buildings with the same symbol.
2. The bas-reliefs on the flagpoles at the Supreme Court, done by the architect Charles Gilbert in 1935, also feature fasces as one of seven symbols of justices manifold attributes.
3. The federal fasces have oddly escaped the notice of modern observers, but their story sheds light on the often curious histories of cultural symbols. How did the fasces get there? Stranger still, how did they escape effacement during our mid-century war with the Italian fascist regime?
And how should we think about them today?
.
You receive an F- for that stupid interpretation of the most perilous period in the last 100 years.
If you cannot see the political motivations behind the fascist images that dominated the era, then you must be anticipating minarets, and the magnificent Alhambra-like structures popping up in all of the seats of power.
Jeremiah 5Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not.
America has always had periodic classical revivals in architecture and our great buildings and monuments are adorned with things borrowed directly from Greeks and Romans because it looks cool, trying to translate that into politics is stupid, It's like saying our government is racist because many of our monuments are white in color.
I remember when Beck ran with this shit for a while but you know what? FDR did not end up being torn to pieces by an angry crowd and has a place in history as savior of the country. You can sully his memory all you want but the fact remains that he brought us through hell on earth and we came out better than ever on the other side.
actually it was Harry S. Truman..., (the only democRAT president i am proud of) who brought U.S. out better on this side by bringing that war to an end.
You also get an F minus.
What's expected from a commie professor.
I'm no professor but I did pay attention in class and pumped my elders for information back when I was young. What FDR did to transform the south from what it was into what it eventually became alone qualifies the man for sainthood. The first decent paycheck a southern man ever got come because of him, the first electricity, the first car, the first immunizations, the list goes on. He finished reconstruction to the ire of northern republicans and now the south, surrounded by the fruits of his accomplishments bad mouth the man.
If you cannot see the political motivations behind the fascist images that dominated the era, then you must be anticipating minarets, and the magnificent Alhambra-like structures popping up in all of the seats of power.
Jeremiah 5
America has always had periodic classical revivals in architecture and our great buildings and monuments are adorned with things borrowed directly from Greeks and Romans because it looks cool, trying to translate that into politics is stupid, It's like saying our government is racist because many of our monuments are white in color.
1. Are you equating the Greek/Roman roots of Western Civilization with an attempt to align with Mussolini/Fascists?
2. Where is your response to this: '...you must be anticipating minarets, and the magnificent Alhambra-like structures popping up in all of the seats of power.'
3. "...trying to translate that into politics is stupid,..."
That's why I'm here....to educate you to the reality of life.
a. Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxist theoretician and founding member and one-time leader of the Communist Party of Italy. Gramschis motto is that of liberals today:
that all life is "political."
Try to expand your understanding.
b. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington
until Hitler became a menace tothe Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution,"p. 48
1. "...structures that bear actual fascist symbolsthose of the United States government, no less. Bizarre as it seems, many federal buildings in Washington were designed prominently with fasces, the emblem of Italian dictator Benito Mussolinis twentieth-century regime. Even more surprisingly, these structures were erected in the 1920s and 1930sjust as Mussolini was ornamenting Italys government buildings with the same symbol.
2. The bas-reliefs on the flagpoles at the Supreme Court, done by the architect Charles Gilbert in 1935, also feature fasces as one of seven symbols of justices manifold attributes.
3. The federal fasces have oddly escaped the notice of modern observers, but their story sheds light on the often curious histories of cultural symbols. How did the fasces get there? Stranger still, how did they escape effacement during our mid-century war with the Italian fascist regime?
And how should we think about them today?
.
You're late. We already got a good laugh over this when the insane Mr. Glenn Beck did it a few years ago:
Glenn Beck: Crack(ed) Symbologist
Glenn Beck, the conservative commentator and self-proclaimed rodeo clown, found a new hobby horse the other night secretly communist and fascist art buried into the exterior design program of Rockefeller Center. In Becks rant he also managed to imply that Rockefeller, its not clear which Rockefeller he meant, was also somehow a secret communist. Or was it a fascist? Or maybe both.
But lets get real, one of the several actual motives for Becks latest bug-eyed, comic-sinister monologue other than to gain himself more publicity and to mash the words progressive/fascist/communist into a single loaded term is to put it to NBC, arch-rival of Fox News and co-owner of MSNBC, which is headquartered at Rock Center. One of the first insidious works that Beck discovers are a pair of carved low-relief figures, called Industry and Agriculture, that flank the entrance of one of the low-rise buildings on the Centers south end. That building will be vaguely familiar to many people because it opens onto the plaza where the Today show holds its outdoor summer concerts. The studio where Today broadcasts from is just across from it. Beck makes sure to mention the Today connection, leaving you with the vague impression that Matt Lauer is insidiously using Miley Cyrus to lure us into a trap set by Joe Stalin.
And what is it that inflames Beck about these carvings? One of the figures, Agriculture, holds a sickle. Meanwhile Industry leans on a hammer. Hammer. Sickle. Hammer and sickle! Theyre not actually touching, much less crossing, but never mind theyre secretly suggesting the communist symbol. Just think Rockefeller Center is across the street from my office. I pass this terrifying radical fetish figure nearly every day without suspecting its malign intent.
Lets put aside for a moment the fact that sickles and hammers were symbols of agriculture and labor long before the communists hit upon the idea of combining them as their symbol. And that workers and farmers were a standard theme in Art Deco. I had actually always thought the hammer Industry leans on was a shovel, buried partly in soil represented by the dark grey stone base of the building. Thats why the figure always looked less to me like a symbol of militant labor than a WPA road worker on a break. (At the feet of Agriculture grass grows from the same grey soil.) The Rockefeller Center website also describes the thing as a shovel. But images can be ambiguous and you can read it either way.
Meanwhile, its the siren song of Italian fascism that Beck hears in another artwork at the Center, a 10 by 16-ft. neoclassical glass wall sculpture by a little remembered Italian-American artist, Attilio Piccirilli. What it shows is a young man walking towards the sun in front a of chariot driven by a muscled figure. Beck takes it to be a fascist tableaux of youth leading humanity towards a bright future and ends up identifying the charioteer as Mussolini.
...etc.
________
My advice to you...if you want to be a running joke on this forum, at least make the jokes fresh.
Glen Beck Takes on Rockefeller Center | TIME.com
The great fascist government in our history was that of George W. Bush, with the intermingling of government and business. The difference between Roosevelt and Bush's types of fascism were that the people won over business in FDR's administrations.
Trot along, PC. You truly do not have the tools necessary for a successful blogging career.
1. "...structures that bear actual fascist symbolsthose of the United States government, no less. Bizarre as it seems, many federal buildings in Washington were designed prominently with fasces, the emblem of Italian dictator Benito Mussolinis twentieth-century regime. Even more surprisingly, these structures were erected in the 1920s and 1930sjust as Mussolini was ornamenting Italys government buildings with the same symbol.
2. The bas-reliefs on the flagpoles at the Supreme Court, done by the architect Charles Gilbert in 1935, also feature fasces as one of seven symbols of justices manifold attributes.
3. The federal fasces have oddly escaped the notice of modern observers, but their story sheds light on the often curious histories of cultural symbols. How did the fasces get there? Stranger still, how did they escape effacement during our mid-century war with the Italian fascist regime?
And how should we think about them today?
.
You're late. We already got a good laugh over this when the insane Mr. Glenn Beck did it a few years ago:
Glenn Beck: Crack(ed) Symbologist
Glenn Beck, the conservative commentator and self-proclaimed rodeo clown, found a new hobby horse the other night secretly communist and fascist art buried into the exterior design program of Rockefeller Center. In Becks rant he also managed to imply that Rockefeller, its not clear which Rockefeller he meant, was also somehow a secret communist. Or was it a fascist? Or maybe both.
But lets get real, one of the several actual motives for Becks latest bug-eyed, comic-sinister monologue other than to gain himself more publicity and to mash the words progressive/fascist/communist into a single loaded term is to put it to NBC, arch-rival of Fox News and co-owner of MSNBC, which is headquartered at Rock Center. One of the first insidious works that Beck discovers are a pair of carved low-relief figures, called Industry and Agriculture, that flank the entrance of one of the low-rise buildings on the Centers south end. That building will be vaguely familiar to many people because it opens onto the plaza where the Today show holds its outdoor summer concerts. The studio where Today broadcasts from is just across from it. Beck makes sure to mention the Today connection, leaving you with the vague impression that Matt Lauer is insidiously using Miley Cyrus to lure us into a trap set by Joe Stalin.
And what is it that inflames Beck about these carvings? One of the figures, Agriculture, holds a sickle. Meanwhile Industry leans on a hammer. Hammer. Sickle. Hammer and sickle! Theyre not actually touching, much less crossing, but never mind theyre secretly suggesting the communist symbol. Just think Rockefeller Center is across the street from my office. I pass this terrifying radical fetish figure nearly every day without suspecting its malign intent.
Lets put aside for a moment the fact that sickles and hammers were symbols of agriculture and labor long before the communists hit upon the idea of combining them as their symbol. And that workers and farmers were a standard theme in Art Deco. I had actually always thought the hammer Industry leans on was a shovel, buried partly in soil represented by the dark grey stone base of the building. Thats why the figure always looked less to me like a symbol of militant labor than a WPA road worker on a break. (At the feet of Agriculture grass grows from the same grey soil.) The Rockefeller Center website also describes the thing as a shovel. But images can be ambiguous and you can read it either way.
Meanwhile, its the siren song of Italian fascism that Beck hears in another artwork at the Center, a 10 by 16-ft. neoclassical glass wall sculpture by a little remembered Italian-American artist, Attilio Piccirilli. What it shows is a young man walking towards the sun in front a of chariot driven by a muscled figure. Beck takes it to be a fascist tableaux of youth leading humanity towards a bright future and ends up identifying the charioteer as Mussolini.
...etc.
________
My advice to you...if you want to be a running joke on this forum, at least make the jokes fresh.
Glen Beck Takes on Rockefeller Center | TIME.com
PoliChic is our chew toy
Isn't PoliChic from north Korea? Is that why she hates this great nation so much
America has always had periodic classical revivals in architecture and our great buildings and monuments are adorned with things borrowed directly from Greeks and Romans because it looks cool, trying to translate that into politics is stupid, It's like saying our government is racist because many of our monuments are white in color.
1. Are you equating the Greek/Roman roots of Western Civilization with an attempt to align with Mussolini/Fascists?
2. Where is your response to this: '...you must be anticipating minarets, and the magnificent Alhambra-like structures popping up in all of the seats of power.'
3. "...trying to translate that into politics is stupid,..."
That's why I'm here....to educate you to the reality of life.
a. Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxist theoretician and founding member and one-time leader of the Communist Party of Italy. Gramschis motto is that of liberals today:
that all life is "political."
Try to expand your understanding.
b. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington
until Hitler became a menace tothe Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution,"p. 48
1. No the author of your cut and paste is trying to do that by making classical imagery on our buildings into a full endorsement of Fascism by FDR, ridiculous.
2. I do not respond to utter bullshit as I have made it clear that I do not buy the connection between architectural symbolism and tyranny.
3. See number one and two.
The great fascist government in our history was that of George W. Bush, with the intermingling of government and business. The difference between Roosevelt and Bush's types of fascism were that the people won over business in FDR's administrations.
Trot along, PC. You truly do not have the tools necessary for a successful blogging career.
Any who have studied the history of the last century understand how very similar the economic policies of Mussolini and of Franklin Roosevelt were.
1. "...structures that bear actual fascist symbols—those of the United States government, no less. Bizarre as it seems, many federal buildings in Washington were designed prominently with fasces, the emblem of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini’s twentieth-century regime. Even more surprisingly, these structures were erected in the 1920s and 1930s—just as Mussolini was ornamenting Italy’s government buildings with the same symbol.
America has always had periodic classical revivals in architecture and our great buildings and monuments are adorned with things borrowed directly from Greeks and Romans because it looks cool, trying to translate that into politics is stupid, It's like saying our government is racist because many of our monuments are white in color.
1. Are you equating the Greek/Roman roots of Western Civilization with an attempt to align with Mussolini/Fascists?
2. Where is your response to this: '...you must be anticipating minarets, and the magnificent Alhambra-like structures popping up in all of the seats of power.'
3. "...trying to translate that into politics is stupid,..."
That's why I'm here....to educate you to the reality of life.
a. Antonio Gramsci, Italian Marxist theoretician and founding member and one-time leader of the Communist Party of Italy. Gramschi’s motto is that of liberals today:
“that all life is "political."
Try to expand your understanding.
b. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington
until Hitler became a menace to•the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution,"p. 48
1. No the author of your cut and paste is trying to do that by making classical imagery on our buildings into a full endorsement of Fascism by FDR, ridiculous.
2. I do not respond to utter bullshit as I have made it clear that I do not buy the connection between architectural symbolism and tyranny.
3. See number one and two.
