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Fast-food workers strike, seeking $15 wage, political muscle

Your second link agrees with me. Thank you for the support. I also enjoyed laughing at your crazy rant.

Certain fast food restaurants can achieve labor cost as low as 25 percent, while table service restaurants are more likely to see labor in the 30 percent to 35 percent range. Food costs (including beverages) for the restaurant industry run typically from the 25 percent to 38 percent range, depending upon the style of restaurant and the mix of sales.

I'm gonna eat at restaurants that pay their Workers a livable wage. If McDonalds does the right thing and helps its Workers out, i might just give it a shot again. If we all do that, Employers might be encouraged to treat their Workers better.

And besides, you gotta watch those restaurants that treat their Workers like shite. You might end up with a nasty ole phlegmy spit sandwich.

Well, that's your own idiocy, then. I eat at the restaurant that gives me the food I was looking for. If I'm looking for quick, cheap food, I'll be damned if I'm going to pay for it as though I was eating a nice meal at a good restaurant just because some dumbass slapping burgers on a bun thinks he should be able to support the kids he squeezed out without changing his life approach.

Well, that's why most feel you white Republican dudes are bad people. They've decided they're not gonna leave it up to you to decide these things. You just can't be trusted. You've allowed your hate & greed to consume you.

Most feel white Republican dudes are bad people? That's not what the elections showed.

Elections with really poor turnout?
Do not blame anyone other than those ( democrat) voters that were too fucking lazy to get off their entitled asses and cast a ballot.
Low turn out....jesus christ. What a fucking complainer.
 
Your ceos shouldn't have gone public and sold lots of stocks I guess.
Still trying to figure out your malfunction here. If the public has decided the direction of the company where's the problem?
He's arguing just to argue....Note how none of this has anything to do with a few whiners who want to be grossly overpaid to do menial tasks.

And when they're not, use it as an excuse to get or stay on a government program.
Brainless posted earlier that government has nothing to do with this issue.
I reminded the empty headed one that these whiners are attempting to compel government to create mandates to give them what they feel entitled to.

It's a difficult argument because conservatives are blessed with more logic than liberals. It's difficult for them to understand logic.

For instance, in an earlier debate, Brainwave and others stated that Wal-Mart put people on welfare. How can Walmart do that? They haven't done it to me!! But this is what I'm talking about: you can't explain that to them. You can't get through that people are responsible for their own plight in life--not Walmart. They simply can't grasp the concept that people end up at Walmart for making bad choices in life. They believe Walmart made bad choices for them. People are not responsible for their choices, so it's Walmart's duty to compensate those who chose failure.

People don't kill people, guns kill people. Again, logic dictates that guns can't do such a thing. You need somebody to get a gun and kill people. Their second argument of course is that if we make it harder on good people to buy guns, the bad guys won't be able to get them. How can anybody but a liberal follow logic like that????
 
Your ceos shouldn't have gone public and sold lots of stocks I guess.
Still trying to figure out your malfunction here. If the public has decided the direction of the company where's the problem?

It is the board and ceo. The public is not making these decisions, sorry.
Ah, so it isn't your business after all.

Yes every stock holder is an owner. Being an owner makes it their business. It's very simple really, why is it so hard for you to understand? I knew you were slow, but this is ridiculous.
You keep using different phraseology, yet insist you are correct when you are not.
The only one who is slow is you.
Question...Can you walk into the headquarters of a company in which you own stock and then make demands on how the company is to operate?
I am an owner. It is my business. For somebody who said nobody cares you sure seem to care a lot.
 
I'm gonna eat at restaurants that pay their Workers a livable wage. If McDonalds does the right thing and helps its Workers out, i might just give it a shot again. If we all do that, Employers might be encouraged to treat their Workers better.

And besides, you gotta watch those restaurants that treat their Workers like shite. You might end up with a nasty ole phlegmy spit sandwich.

Well, that's your own idiocy, then. I eat at the restaurant that gives me the food I was looking for. If I'm looking for quick, cheap food, I'll be damned if I'm going to pay for it as though I was eating a nice meal at a good restaurant just because some dumbass slapping burgers on a bun thinks he should be able to support the kids he squeezed out without changing his life approach.

Well, that's why most feel you white Republican dudes are bad people. They've decided they're not gonna leave it up to you to decide these things. You just can't be trusted. You've allowed your hate & greed to consume you.

Most feel white Republican dudes are bad people? That's not what the elections showed.

Elections with really poor turnout?
Do not blame anyone other than those ( democrat) voters that were too fucking lazy to get off their entitled asses and cast a ballot.
Low turn out....jesus christ. What a fucking complainer.

You don't seem to read very well. How was pointing out a fact complaining? All you seem to do is whine and cry. Get over it already.
 
You keep chanting, "Wages are stagnant", like it's some talisman that excuses anything. We're talking about minimum wage, which is stagnant because those jobs aren't worth more, and because there's no shortage of people who can and will do them for what they pay right now. If someone is sitting around in one of those jobs much longer than they should, expecting it to someday become a well-paying career, that's HIS problem, not the employer's.

There are better jobs out there that don't have enough people to fill them, and they do pay better. Those people lagging in MW jobs could apply for them, if they bothered to become qualified for them. They don't, and that's not anyone's problem but theirs.

You make a lot of claims without backing them up, pretty much every post. Show there are good paying jobs waiting to be filled. Link?

It's always funny to watch leftists try to use the same tactics that devastate their talking points, and fail miserably at them.

10 High-Paying In-Demand Jobs

Finding, Landing and Loving a Hard-to-Fill Job

On The Job Hunt: Unfilled Jobs Across America, Are You Qualified?

Fox news from 2011? Yes very relevant today.
Do you believe the problem has magically ended?
You are now arguing just to argue.
Shut up...

Yes I believe there are fewer skilled jobs available now. You seem to have no clue what you are commenting on.
What you believe is immaterial. Only the facts matter.
 
Well, that's your own idiocy, then. I eat at the restaurant that gives me the food I was looking for. If I'm looking for quick, cheap food, I'll be damned if I'm going to pay for it as though I was eating a nice meal at a good restaurant just because some dumbass slapping burgers on a bun thinks he should be able to support the kids he squeezed out without changing his life approach.

Well, that's why most feel you white Republican dudes are bad people. They've decided they're not gonna leave it up to you to decide these things. You just can't be trusted. You've allowed your hate & greed to consume you.

Most feel white Republican dudes are bad people? That's not what the elections showed.

Elections with really poor turnout?
Do not blame anyone other than those ( democrat) voters that were too fucking lazy to get off their entitled asses and cast a ballot.
Low turn out....jesus christ. What a fucking complainer.

You don't seem to read very well. How was pointing out a fact complaining? All you seem to do is whine and cry. Get over it already.
You stated that the dems lost elections due to low voter turn out. That is a complaint.
 
You keep chanting, "Wages are stagnant", like it's some talisman that excuses anything. We're talking about minimum wage, which is stagnant because those jobs aren't worth more, and because there's no shortage of people who can and will do them for what they pay right now. If someone is sitting around in one of those jobs much longer than they should, expecting it to someday become a well-paying career, that's HIS problem, not the employer's.

There are better jobs out there that don't have enough people to fill them, and they do pay better. Those people lagging in MW jobs could apply for them, if they bothered to become qualified for them. They don't, and that's not anyone's problem but theirs.

You make a lot of claims without backing them up, pretty much every post. Show there are good paying jobs waiting to be filled. Link?

Allow me:

6 industries that can’t find workers fast enough
By Catey Hill
Published: Dec 20, 2014 12:11 p.m. ET

6 industries that can’t find workers fast enough


Employers can't find enough skilled labor to fill jobs
Hundreds of thousands of U.S. high-tech factory jobs are not filled because employers can't find qualified people

Employers can't find enough skilled labor to fill jobs



ATA: ‘Driver Shortage’ Likely To Reach 48,000 By The End of The Year

OCT 7 • NEWS • 896 VIEWS • 14 COMMENTS ON ATA: ‘DRIVER SHORTAGE’ LIKELY TO REACH 48,000 BY THE END OF THE YEAR

ATA: ‘Driver Shortage’ Likely To Reach 48,000 By The End of The Year


By Catey Hill
Published: Dec 20, 2014 12:11 p.m. ET

Yes you keep going on about drivers. But what we already determined is that they are a bad area to go into. First you have to pay for training. Wages in trucking are going down, not up. Impossible for many with families. Very questionable safety....
My brother in law is a dedicated freight driver. His income exceeds $75k per year....
You are so full of shit. OTR and Regional drivers can make six figures. Independent O/O's twice that.
So what if a person has to pay for their training?. Have you a problem with funding one's own education? Or are you in the "free tuition" camp.....The one that lives in a fantasy world of "gimme my free shit"....

Probably both. He's arguing with a professional truck driver about truck driving jobs based on some internet site. He thinks he knows more than me about my career than I do. I guess that explains why he thinks he knows it all about any subject.
Brainless does not "know" anything. Except that is, if he's not complaining about something, he's miserable.
 
Well, that's your own idiocy, then. I eat at the restaurant that gives me the food I was looking for. If I'm looking for quick, cheap food, I'll be damned if I'm going to pay for it as though I was eating a nice meal at a good restaurant just because some dumbass slapping burgers on a bun thinks he should be able to support the kids he squeezed out without changing his life approach.

Well, that's why most feel you white Republican dudes are bad people. They've decided they're not gonna leave it up to you to decide these things. You just can't be trusted. You've allowed your hate & greed to consume you.

Most feel white Republican dudes are bad people? That's not what the elections showed.

Elections with really poor turnout?

It doesn't matter if the elections were 50,000 or 50 million. The point is what the majority thinks.

Yes it does. Did a majority even vote?
No...And who's fault is that?
 
You make a lot of claims without backing them up, pretty much every post. Show there are good paying jobs waiting to be filled. Link?

Allow me:

6 industries that can’t find workers fast enough
By Catey Hill
Published: Dec 20, 2014 12:11 p.m. ET

6 industries that can’t find workers fast enough


Employers can't find enough skilled labor to fill jobs
Hundreds of thousands of U.S. high-tech factory jobs are not filled because employers can't find qualified people

Employers can't find enough skilled labor to fill jobs



ATA: ‘Driver Shortage’ Likely To Reach 48,000 By The End of The Year

OCT 7 • NEWS • 896 VIEWS • 14 COMMENTS ON ATA: ‘DRIVER SHORTAGE’ LIKELY TO REACH 48,000 BY THE END OF THE YEAR

ATA: ‘Driver Shortage’ Likely To Reach 48,000 By The End of The Year


By Catey Hill
Published: Dec 20, 2014 12:11 p.m. ET

Yes you keep going on about drivers. But what we already determined is that they are a bad area to go into. First you have to pay for training. Wages in trucking are going down, not up. Impossible for many with families. Very questionable safety....
My brother in law is a dedicated freight driver. His income exceeds $75k per year....
You are so full of shit. OTR and Regional drivers can make six figures. Independent O/O's twice that.
So what if a person has to pay for their training?. Have you a problem with funding one's own education? Or are you in the "free tuition" camp.....The one that lives in a fantasy world of "gimme my free shit"....

Probably both. He's arguing with a professional truck driver about truck driving jobs based on some internet site. He thinks he knows more than me about my career than I do. I guess that explains why he thinks he knows it all about any subject.

Yet you haven't denied what I have said about trucking.
Why bother to deny an opinion? What you stated about the trucking industry is YOUR opinion. Who cares about your opinion.
Aside from what someone told you to believe, you know nothing.
 
No, I don't mean anything of the sort, because unlike you, I don't say stupid shit.

Well to believe ceo pay has gone up the way it has just because of the market you'd have to be a moron. That seems to be the case with you.

Well, to believe that I'm responsible for the argument you want to oppose about markets when I never said a word about markets, you'd have to be a moron . . . which we all KNOW is the case with you.

What I said was, "CEO pay is decided by the people who are paying the money, so it's no one else's business." See if you can wrap both your functioning brain cells around the concept of "none of your business".

So even you know it is a rigged game. Well that is good. But it is the business of every share holder. So that is actually a whole lot of people for most companies. Thanks for playing, you lose again.
Just a minute. You invest in what you view as a rigged game?.....I once referred to you as having a room temperature IQ....I now see I was incorrect. Yours is lower.

Your stupidity is cute.
Did you not state you believe the game is rigged? And have you not been claiming throughout the last 10 pages of this thread that you freely participate in this allegedly rigged game?
And I'm to be called stupid...WOW. Just wow.
Dude, this......:lalala: has been your argument throughout the thread.
This gets you nowhere.
 
Well, that's why most feel you white Republican dudes are bad people. They've decided they're not gonna leave it up to you to decide these things. You just can't be trusted. You've allowed your hate & greed to consume you.

Most feel white Republican dudes are bad people? That's not what the elections showed.

Elections with really poor turnout?
Do not blame anyone other than those ( democrat) voters that were too fucking lazy to get off their entitled asses and cast a ballot.
Low turn out....jesus christ. What a fucking complainer.

You don't seem to read very well. How was pointing out a fact complaining? All you seem to do is whine and cry. Get over it already.
You stated that the dems lost elections due to low voter turn out. That is a complaint.

No I asked a question actually. That is what the ? means.
 
Well, that's why most feel you white Republican dudes are bad people. They've decided they're not gonna leave it up to you to decide these things. You just can't be trusted. You've allowed your hate & greed to consume you.

Most feel white Republican dudes are bad people? That's not what the elections showed.

Elections with really poor turnout?

It doesn't matter if the elections were 50,000 or 50 million. The point is what the majority thinks.

Yes it does. Did a majority even vote?
No...And who's fault is that?

Beats me. But you can't claim is shows what the majority thinks if it was not a majority who voted.
 
Well to believe ceo pay has gone up the way it has just because of the market you'd have to be a moron. That seems to be the case with you.

Well, to believe that I'm responsible for the argument you want to oppose about markets when I never said a word about markets, you'd have to be a moron . . . which we all KNOW is the case with you.

What I said was, "CEO pay is decided by the people who are paying the money, so it's no one else's business." See if you can wrap both your functioning brain cells around the concept of "none of your business".

So even you know it is a rigged game. Well that is good. But it is the business of every share holder. So that is actually a whole lot of people for most companies. Thanks for playing, you lose again.
Just a minute. You invest in what you view as a rigged game?.....I once referred to you as having a room temperature IQ....I now see I was incorrect. Yours is lower.

Your stupidity is cute.
Did you not state you believe the game is rigged? And have you not been claiming throughout the last 10 pages of this thread that you freely participate in this allegedly rigged game?
And I'm to be called stupid...WOW. Just wow.
Dude, this......:lalala: has been your argument throughout the thread.
This gets you nowhere.

Yes CEO pay is a rigged game. I have given several links explaining why.
 
Allow me:

6 industries that can’t find workers fast enough
By Catey Hill
Published: Dec 20, 2014 12:11 p.m. ET

6 industries that can’t find workers fast enough


Employers can't find enough skilled labor to fill jobs
Hundreds of thousands of U.S. high-tech factory jobs are not filled because employers can't find qualified people

Employers can't find enough skilled labor to fill jobs



ATA: ‘Driver Shortage’ Likely To Reach 48,000 By The End of The Year

OCT 7 • NEWS • 896 VIEWS • 14 COMMENTS ON ATA: ‘DRIVER SHORTAGE’ LIKELY TO REACH 48,000 BY THE END OF THE YEAR

ATA: ‘Driver Shortage’ Likely To Reach 48,000 By The End of The Year


By Catey Hill
Published: Dec 20, 2014 12:11 p.m. ET

Yes you keep going on about drivers. But what we already determined is that they are a bad area to go into. First you have to pay for training. Wages in trucking are going down, not up. Impossible for many with families. Very questionable safety....
My brother in law is a dedicated freight driver. His income exceeds $75k per year....
You are so full of shit. OTR and Regional drivers can make six figures. Independent O/O's twice that.
So what if a person has to pay for their training?. Have you a problem with funding one's own education? Or are you in the "free tuition" camp.....The one that lives in a fantasy world of "gimme my free shit"....

Probably both. He's arguing with a professional truck driver about truck driving jobs based on some internet site. He thinks he knows more than me about my career than I do. I guess that explains why he thinks he knows it all about any subject.

Yet you haven't denied what I have said about trucking.
Why bother to deny an opinion? What you stated about the trucking industry is YOUR opinion. Who cares about your opinion.
Aside from what someone told you to believe, you know nothing.
Truck Driver Pay: Trucker Pay Rate Still Falls Short
 
Yes you keep going on about drivers. But what we already determined is that they are a bad area to go into. First you have to pay for training. Wages in trucking are going down, not up. Impossible for many with families. Very questionable safety....
My brother in law is a dedicated freight driver. His income exceeds $75k per year....
You are so full of shit. OTR and Regional drivers can make six figures. Independent O/O's twice that.
So what if a person has to pay for their training?. Have you a problem with funding one's own education? Or are you in the "free tuition" camp.....The one that lives in a fantasy world of "gimme my free shit"....

Probably both. He's arguing with a professional truck driver about truck driving jobs based on some internet site. He thinks he knows more than me about my career than I do. I guess that explains why he thinks he knows it all about any subject.

Yet you haven't denied what I have said about trucking.
Why bother to deny an opinion? What you stated about the trucking industry is YOUR opinion. Who cares about your opinion.
Aside from what someone told you to believe, you know nothing.
Truck Driver Pay: Trucker Pay Rate Still Falls Short

So WTF is this supposed to tell us? This author explains how some are not making the money they should be, however, if you look at what he wrote, you will see the most minimum is $37,000 per year, and I have plenty of sites to dispute that.

This is not to mention the FACT that when you first start out, you're not going to be making the top dollar. This is because insurance companies have much higher rates for new drivers. Again, as I have repeated over and over, once you get experience, your pay increases as well. After two years of driving experience with no major accidents, insurance rates drastically go down.

Next of course is that your article explains how many openings for truck drivers there are. Just as the articles I posted, there are jobs out there, and trucking pays very well after you get some experience.

So keep on telling us how Walmart employees need to be compensated by taxpayers for their failures instead of looking into a career promising industry like driving. No driver is getting food stamps or welfare because they make too little unless they are an extremely bad driver or otherwise a non-productive employee.
 
My brother in law is a dedicated freight driver. His income exceeds $75k per year....
You are so full of shit. OTR and Regional drivers can make six figures. Independent O/O's twice that.
So what if a person has to pay for their training?. Have you a problem with funding one's own education? Or are you in the "free tuition" camp.....The one that lives in a fantasy world of "gimme my free shit"....

Probably both. He's arguing with a professional truck driver about truck driving jobs based on some internet site. He thinks he knows more than me about my career than I do. I guess that explains why he thinks he knows it all about any subject.

Yet you haven't denied what I have said about trucking.
Why bother to deny an opinion? What you stated about the trucking industry is YOUR opinion. Who cares about your opinion.
Aside from what someone told you to believe, you know nothing.
Truck Driver Pay: Trucker Pay Rate Still Falls Short

So WTF is this supposed to tell us? This author explains how some are not making the money they should be, however, if you look at what he wrote, you will see the most minimum is $37,000 per year, and I have plenty of sites to dispute that.

This is not to mention the FACT that when you first start out, you're not going to be making the top dollar. This is because insurance companies have much higher rates for new drivers. Again, as I have repeated over and over, once you get experience, your pay increases as well. After two years of driving experience with no major accidents, insurance rates drastically go down.

Next of course is that your article explains how many openings for truck drivers there are. Just as the articles I posted, there are jobs out there, and trucking pays very well after you get some experience.

So keep on telling us how Walmart employees need to be compensated by taxpayers for their failures instead of looking into a career promising industry like driving. No driver is getting food stamps or welfare because they make too little unless they are an extremely bad driver or otherwise a non-productive employee.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/1...ivers-it-should-try-paying-more.html?referer=
 
Probably both. He's arguing with a professional truck driver about truck driving jobs based on some internet site. He thinks he knows more than me about my career than I do. I guess that explains why he thinks he knows it all about any subject.

Yet you haven't denied what I have said about trucking.
Why bother to deny an opinion? What you stated about the trucking industry is YOUR opinion. Who cares about your opinion.
Aside from what someone told you to believe, you know nothing.
Truck Driver Pay: Trucker Pay Rate Still Falls Short

So WTF is this supposed to tell us? This author explains how some are not making the money they should be, however, if you look at what he wrote, you will see the most minimum is $37,000 per year, and I have plenty of sites to dispute that.

This is not to mention the FACT that when you first start out, you're not going to be making the top dollar. This is because insurance companies have much higher rates for new drivers. Again, as I have repeated over and over, once you get experience, your pay increases as well. After two years of driving experience with no major accidents, insurance rates drastically go down.

Next of course is that your article explains how many openings for truck drivers there are. Just as the articles I posted, there are jobs out there, and trucking pays very well after you get some experience.

So keep on telling us how Walmart employees need to be compensated by taxpayers for their failures instead of looking into a career promising industry like driving. No driver is getting food stamps or welfare because they make too little unless they are an extremely bad driver or otherwise a non-productive employee.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/1...ivers-it-should-try-paying-more.html?referer=

What a wonderful article, and here is the best part of it:

"It’s not an ideal job for everyone. There is no question that trucking is hard work, necessitating long hours and longer stretches away from family. But that’s why it is well compensated, at least in comparison to other jobs not requiring college degrees. The average pay for a long-haul trucker is just shy of $50,000, according to the A.T.A., and an experienced trucker with a good safety record can make significantly more than that. The work typically offers lavish benefits that are increasingly rare for nonunion blue-collar employees."

Hmmm, doesn't that comment sound like from somebody we know?

But there goes your theory you've repeated over and over, and that is stagnant wages are indicative of no jobs. Well...... as your article points out, there are all kinds of jobs waiting to be had, yet, lower wages. How do you explain your theory now???

Keep posting. The only thing better than putting bullets in my gun is when somebody gives them to me to put in my gun.

So tell us again how Walmart workers have absolutely no other opportunity to get out of those stores because there is nothing higher paying for them.
 
Yet you haven't denied what I have said about trucking.
Why bother to deny an opinion? What you stated about the trucking industry is YOUR opinion. Who cares about your opinion.
Aside from what someone told you to believe, you know nothing.
Truck Driver Pay: Trucker Pay Rate Still Falls Short

So WTF is this supposed to tell us? This author explains how some are not making the money they should be, however, if you look at what he wrote, you will see the most minimum is $37,000 per year, and I have plenty of sites to dispute that.

This is not to mention the FACT that when you first start out, you're not going to be making the top dollar. This is because insurance companies have much higher rates for new drivers. Again, as I have repeated over and over, once you get experience, your pay increases as well. After two years of driving experience with no major accidents, insurance rates drastically go down.

Next of course is that your article explains how many openings for truck drivers there are. Just as the articles I posted, there are jobs out there, and trucking pays very well after you get some experience.

So keep on telling us how Walmart employees need to be compensated by taxpayers for their failures instead of looking into a career promising industry like driving. No driver is getting food stamps or welfare because they make too little unless they are an extremely bad driver or otherwise a non-productive employee.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/1...ivers-it-should-try-paying-more.html?referer=

What a wonderful article, and here is the best part of it:

"It’s not an ideal job for everyone. There is no question that trucking is hard work, necessitating long hours and longer stretches away from family. But that’s why it is well compensated, at least in comparison to other jobs not requiring college degrees. The average pay for a long-haul trucker is just shy of $50,000, according to the A.T.A., and an experienced trucker with a good safety record can make significantly more than that. The work typically offers lavish benefits that are increasingly rare for nonunion blue-collar employees."

Hmmm, doesn't that comment sound like from somebody we know?

But there goes your theory you've repeated over and over, and that is stagnant wages are indicative of no jobs. Well...... as your article points out, there are all kinds of jobs waiting to be had, yet, lower wages. How do you explain your theory now???

Keep posting. The only thing better than putting bullets in my gun is when somebody gives them to me to put in my gun.

So tell us again how Walmart workers have absolutely no other opportunity to get out of those stores because there is nothing higher paying for them.

Jobs nobody wants for all the reasons in the links.

The industry complains of shortages of truck drivers, but in real terms tractor-trailer drivers made less in 2013 than they did a decade earlier.

You really expect someone to pay for training to go into an industry with declining wages?

The salary of a truck driver today, does not come close to compensating the trucker for the work they perform....today's driver wages are about on par with the same salary that truckers were making back in the '80's and '90's. Given the dramatic cost of living increase over the past 20-30 years, it's no wonder there's a serious shortage of drivers..... women and men are just not attracted to a job which doesn't pay in accordance to the skill level demanded by the job, nor the time invested.
 

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