Father Arrested For Protesting A Book

[eagle1462010]

USDOJ: CRM: Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section

18 U.S.C. § 1460- Possession with intent to sell, and sale, of obscene matter on Federal property
18 U.S.C. § 1461- Mailing obscene or crime-inciting matter
18 U.S.C. § 1462- Importation or transportation of obscene matters
18 U.S.C. § 1463- Mailing indecent matter on wrappers or envelopes
18 U.S.C. § 1464- Broadcasting obscene language
18 U.S.C. § 1465- Transportation of obscene matters for sale or distribution
18 U.S.C. § 1466- Engaging in the business of selling or transferring obscene matter
18 U.S.C. § 1466A- Obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children
18 U.S.C. § 1467- Criminal forfeiture
18 U.S.C. § 1468- Distributing obscene material by cable or subscription television
18 U.S.C. § 1469- Presumptions
18 U.S.C. § 1470- Transfer of obscene material to minors

18 U.S.C. § 2252B Misleading domain names on the Internet
18 U.S.C. § 2252C Misleading words or digital images on the Internet

 

[eagle1462010]

How about this.............

IT'S THE LAW.

The School violated 18 USC 1470, with the transfer of obscene material to minors.

Prosecute the School Board under the DOJ's laws.

 

[JoeB131]

You people are incredible. I just quoted the page, and agree it's inappropriate to force this kind of books in school. Hell, it's written like porn. But we are to be diverse and you can opt out if you so desire BS.

Stupidity in motion here.

Guy, how much porn do you read that you can make those kinds of comparisons.

frankly, it sounds kind of tame, really.

I remember being in Catholic School in the 1970's when the novel Jaws came out, and there was a sexually explicit scene in there that some kid read on his lunch break, and the Nuns decided it was appropriate to humiliate him in front of the whole class for giggling at it.

Here's the thing. this book is written about something contemporary that these kids can relate to. That's the purpose of teaching reading.

Not some tired old, "Let's read Orwell's 1984, because that's what they taught us to instruct against in teaching classes and there's a wealth of material".

LOL

It's not about the porn you retard, and you know it.

NO, it's about you nutters trying to impose your crazy on the rest of us.

 

[JoeB131]

How about this.............

IT'S THE LAW.

The School violated 18 USC 1470, with the transfer of obscene material to minors.

Prosecute the School Board under the DOJ's laws.

One paragraph that is less graphic than the sex ed materials that they teach in health class?

Really?

Really?

 

[eagle1462010]

Obscenity Law and Minors

Federal law strictly prohibits the distribution of obscene matter to minors. Any transfer or attempt to transfer such material to a minor under the age of 16, including over the Internet, is punishable under federal law. It is also illegal to use misleading website domain names with intent to deceive a minor into viewing harmful or obscene material. For example, using a cartoon character or children´s television program in the domain of a website that contains harmful or obscene material may be punishable under federal law.
In addition, visual representations, such as drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexual activity and are obscene are also illegal under federal law.
It is important to note that the standard for what is harmful to minors may be different than the standard for adults, and offenders convicted of obscenity crimes involving minors face harsher penalties than if the crimes involved only adults (For more information, see Citizen's Guide to Federal Law on Obscenity).

 

[JoeB131]

I notice that they are all obsessed about the sex in this book on one page and not the pages and pages of violence...

 

[eagle1462010]

How about this.............

IT'S THE LAW.

The School violated 18 USC 1470, with the transfer of obscene material to minors.

Prosecute the School Board under the DOJ's laws.

One paragraph that is less graphic than the sex ed materials that they teach in health class?

Really?

Really?

You quote porn, and make fun of it. State that the man violated the LAW in the meeting and was justly arrested.

Then ignore the law of distributing Obscene writing to minors.

Amazing isn't it.

 

[JoeB131]

How about this.............

IT'S THE LAW.

The School violated 18 USC 1470, with the transfer of obscene material to minors.

Prosecute the School Board under the DOJ's laws.

One paragraph that is less graphic than the sex ed materials that they teach in health class?

Really?

Really?

You quote porn, and make fun of it. State that the man violated the LAW in the meeting and was justly arrested.

Then ignore the law of distributing Obscene writing to minors.

Amazing isn't it.

this book has been authorized as part of the curriculum for 7 years now...

So, uh, no.

 

[jillian]

How about this.............

IT'S THE LAW.

The School violated 18 USC 1470, with the transfer of obscene material to minors.

Prosecute the School Board under the DOJ's laws.

obscenity is a very nebulous concept. it requires there be absolutely no redeeming social value.

so no.....

 

[eagle1462010]

I notice that they are all obsessed about the sex in this book on one page and not the pages and pages of violence...

So the book is full of violence as well.

Nice book to force kids to read in school.

How about this.............

We go back to the basics of school, MATH, ENGLISH, SCIENCE and chit like that instead of reading fiction books on BS.............Maybe then we wouldn't be at lower standards than the rest of the world.

Maybe, just maybe, we wouldn't need to down grade our standards of excellence to Common Core BS.

 

[eagle1462010]

One paragraph that is less graphic than the sex ed materials that they teach in health class?

Really?

Really?

You quote porn, and make fun of it. State that the man violated the LAW in the meeting and was justly arrested.

Then ignore the law of distributing Obscene writing to minors.

Amazing isn't it.

this book has been authorized as part of the curriculum for 7 years now...

So, uh, no.

Was this forced curriculum on this man's daughter for those 7 years. No.

 

[JoeB131]

How about this.............

IT'S THE LAW.

The School violated 18 USC 1470, with the transfer of obscene material to minors.

Prosecute the School Board under the DOJ's laws.

obscenity is a very nebulous concept. it requires there be absolutely no redeeming social value.

so no.....

Exactly. You can ban the Bible and Shakespeare under Eagle's interpreation of "obscenity".

 

[eagle1462010]

How about this.............

IT'S THE LAW.

The School violated 18 USC 1470, with the transfer of obscene material to minors.

Prosecute the School Board under the DOJ's laws.

obscenity is a very nebulous concept. it requires there be absolutely no redeeming social value.

so no.....

Exactly. You can ban the Bible and Shakespeare under Eagle's interpreation of "obscenity".

The parents in the video stated it wasn't about banning the book at the meeting. It was about giving their kid the book without receiving the notice first.

And again fails the 2 minute gag order BS.

 

[JoeB131]

I notice that they are all obsessed about the sex in this book on one page and not the pages and pages of violence...

So the book is full of violence as well.

Nice book to force kids to read in school.

How about this.............

We go back to the basics of school, MATH, ENGLISH, SCIENCE and chit like that instead of reading fiction books on BS.............Maybe then we wouldn't be at lower standards than the rest of the world.

Maybe, just maybe, we wouldn't need to down grade our standards of excellence to Common Core BS.

frankly, I'd have rather have read this book in HS than trudge through Orwell's 1984, which was on the curriculum of the Catholic School I went to.

and that book also has several sexually explicit scenes in it.

But since you are all for science, maybe you need to talk to your Christian Funditard buddies who have expunged all talk of Darwin and Evolution in Biology Textbooks.

Just saying.

 

[eagle1462010]

I notice that they are all obsessed about the sex in this book on one page and not the pages and pages of violence...

So the book is full of violence as well.

Nice book to force kids to read in school.

How about this.............

We go back to the basics of school, MATH, ENGLISH, SCIENCE and chit like that instead of reading fiction books on BS.............Maybe then we wouldn't be at lower standards than the rest of the world.

Maybe, just maybe, we wouldn't need to down grade our standards of excellence to Common Core BS.

frankly, I'd have rather have read this book in HS than trudge through Orwell's 1984, which was on the curriculum of the Catholic School I went to.

and that book also has several sexually explicit scenes in it.

But since you are all for science, maybe you need to talk to your Christian Funditard buddies who have expunged all talk of Darwin and Evolution in Biology Textbooks.

Just saying.

and again you refuse to engage on the 2 minute Gag order.

Just saying.

 

[DriftingSand]

I notice that they are all obsessed about the sex in this book on one page and not the pages and pages of violence...

So the book is full of violence as well.

Nice book to force kids to read in school.

How about this.............

We go back to the basics of school, MATH, ENGLISH, SCIENCE and chit like that instead of reading fiction books on BS.............Maybe then we wouldn't be at lower standards than the rest of the world.

Maybe, just maybe, we wouldn't need to down grade our standards of excellence to Common Core BS.

Well ... I almost agree. We need to go back to math, English, Science, AND the best way to install a condom left-handed and with your eyes shut. Now THAT's important stuff.

Ah ... the institutions of "higher learning." What would we do without them?

 

[koshergrl]

The girl wasn't being sexualised, for fucks sake. Its a god damned book. What about the numerous sex scenes in the Bible?

The bible isn't assigned in school.

To force children to read about sex acts is the definition of sexualization, you nitwit. And the schools shouldn't be doing it.

Of course they do. Because that's what idiots like you think they're supposed to do. Prepare kids for sex.

 

[koshergrl]

The main point was to ban a book because some dickhead doesn't like one paragraph. If he doesn't like it, he can take his daughter out of school and teach her at home. Simple.

He didn't ask that the book be banned. He was criticizing the school for assigning garbage to students without advising the parents, and for having critics of the assigment arrested when they used the venues open to them to complain, arrested.

 

[DriftingSand]

The main point was to ban a book because some dickhead doesn't like one paragraph. If he doesn't like it, he can take his daughter out of school and teach her at home. Simple.

He didn't ask that the book be banned. He was criticizing the school for assigning garbage to students without advising the parents, and for having critics of the assigment arrested when they used the venues open to them to complain, arrested.

Noomi =

 

[Katzndogz]

We are now the country that arrests people for what they say. The two minute rule was a convenient subterfuge and unless they had a prominently displayed timer, no one knows whether he violated the rule or not. The police were there because the board knew that he was going to speak out against pornography and intended to arrest him when he did.