Father kills gay son

[Syriusly]

North Hills Father Charged With Murder for Allegedly Shooting Son Because He Was Gay


The son was probably being obnoxious and badgering his father demanding dad meet his demands. The old man couldn't take it any more.

You seem to go to great pains to excuse murder.

When a girl is raped by her father- do you presume that she was just being to sexually provocative and he couldn't take it any longer?

Do you think the crazy son was trying to get dad to have sex with him?

You seem to go to great pains to excuse murder.

When a girl is raped by her father- do you presume that she was just being to sexually provocative and he couldn't take it any longer?

 

[Political Junky]

I
They are mentally ill. The manifestation of mental illness is homosexuality, but not the only one. That's why they commit suicide, they exhibit in other ways.

Yet most gays don't commit suicide.

Your thesis is faulty because you posit that all gays are mentally ill- and thats why they commit suicide- yet the vast majority of homosexuals never commit suicide.

You have decided that homosexuals are mentally ill- because of your biases. Not because of evidence.

In this case something caused this gay son to destroy his home so badly it had to be rebuilt. Something more than homosexuality had the parents put the house up for sale to get away from this crazy man and who killed Mom? It wasn't dad with a shotgun.

'Something'

So you really are determined to speculate and ask us to create a fiction that supports your fantasies?

No doubt.

 

[Syriusly]

which might mean......

"Who killed Mom?" Why are you asking us?

"Is being gay a license to kill?"

Is being a Dad a license to kill?

You seem to think so.

"which might mean......"

Which is really the basis of your entire slimy thread.

First you suggest that the family is Muslim- why? Because this is just your slimy thread.

Then you want us to indulge your homophobic speculation.

"Who killed Mom?"

Why are you asking us?

"Is being gay a license to kill?"

Is being a Dad a license to kill?

You seem to think so.

 

[Arianrhod]

North Hills Father Charged With Murder for Allegedly Shooting Son Because He Was Gay

From the names it looks like this is a muslim family.

The son was probably being obnoxious and badgering his father demanding dad meet his demands. The old man couldn't take it any more.

Family is Christian. Didn't realize you knew them so well you were a witness to the shooting. Can you supply us with a list of "obnoxious" behaviors that you believe entitle a father to murder his son?

 

[Katzndogz]

I
They are mentally ill. The manifestation of mental illness is homosexuality, but not the only one. That's why they commit suicide, they exhibit in other ways.

Yet most gays don't commit suicide.

Your thesis is faulty because you posit that all gays are mentally ill- and thats why they commit suicide- yet the vast majority of homosexuals never commit suicide.

You have decided that homosexuals are mentally ill- because of your biases. Not because of evidence.

The same kind of mental illness doesn't manifest in everyone in exactly the same way. All gays do not have to commit suicide for homosexuality to be a mental illness. Some people who are bi polar or schizophrenic commit suicide. That they all do not attempt suicide doesn't mean that these conditions aren't forms of illness. .

So exactly what do you base your diagnosis that every gay person is mentally ill upon then- since it isn't that they commit suicide?

Your hunch? That you find them 'icky'?

Up until the gay lobby forced a change in diagnosis, homosexuality was on the list of diagnosed mental illness. That social engineering forced this kind of change doesn't really change the form of the illness.

 

[Katzndogz]

North Hills Father Charged With Murder for Allegedly Shooting Son Because He Was Gay

From the names it looks like this is a muslim family.

The son was probably being obnoxious and badgering his father demanding dad meet his demands. The old man couldn't take it any more.

Family is Christian. Didn't realize you knew them so well you were a witness to the shooting. Can you supply us with a list of "obnoxious" behaviors that you believe entitle a father to murder his son?

Maybe destroying the home is serviceable as obnoxious behavior. Why was the son arguing with his father? Is it true that it was over the son's sexuality as reported? Father says son attacked him with a knife. Is that obnoxious behavior?

 

[Katzndogz]

I
They are mentally ill. The manifestation of mental illness is homosexuality, but not the only one. That's why they commit suicide, they exhibit in other ways.

Yet most gays don't commit suicide.

Your thesis is faulty because you posit that all gays are mentally ill- and thats why they commit suicide- yet the vast majority of homosexuals never commit suicide.

You have decided that homosexuals are mentally ill- because of your biases. Not because of evidence.

In this case something caused this gay son to destroy his home so badly it had to be rebuilt. Something more than homosexuality had the parents put the house up for sale to get away from this crazy man and who killed Mom? It wasn't dad with a shotgun.

'Something'

So you really are determined to speculate and ask us to create a fiction that supports your fantasies?

Just what's in the reports that are publicly available.

 

[Katzndogz]

which might mean......

"Who killed Mom?" Why are you asking us?

"Is being gay a license to kill?"

Is being a Dad a license to kill?

You seem to think so.

"which might mean......"

Which is really the basis of your entire slimy thread.

First you suggest that the family is Muslim- why? Because this is just your slimy thread.

Then you want us to indulge your homophobic speculation.

"Who killed Mom?"

Why are you asking us?

"Is being gay a license to kill?"

Is being a Dad a license to kill?

You seem to think so.

I never suggested they were muslim.
Having your life threatened by someone out of control gives the person the right to kill the assailant. Even if the assailant is gay.

 

[Syriusly]

I
They are mentally ill. The manifestation of mental illness is homosexuality, but not the only one. That's why they commit suicide, they exhibit in other ways.

Yet most gays don't commit suicide.

Your thesis is faulty because you posit that all gays are mentally ill- and thats why they commit suicide- yet the vast majority of homosexuals never commit suicide.

You have decided that homosexuals are mentally ill- because of your biases. Not because of evidence.

In this case something caused this gay son to destroy his home so badly it had to be rebuilt. Something more than homosexuality had the parents put the house up for sale to get away from this crazy man and who killed Mom? It wasn't dad with a shotgun.

'Something'

So you really are determined to speculate and ask us to create a fiction that supports your fantasies?

Just what's in the reports that are publicly available.

So why do you insist on speculating- rather than relying on what is in the publicly available reports?

Starting with your OP when you speculated that the family was Muslim?

 

[Syriusly]

which might mean......

"Who killed Mom?" Why are you asking us?

"Is being gay a license to kill?"

Is being a Dad a license to kill?

You seem to think so.

"which might mean......"

Which is really the basis of your entire slimy thread.

First you suggest that the family is Muslim- why? Because this is just your slimy thread.

Then you want us to indulge your homophobic speculation.

"Who killed Mom?"

Why are you asking us?

"Is being gay a license to kill?"

Is being a Dad a license to kill?

You seem to think so.

I never suggested they were muslim..

You of course did.

In your OP

North Hills Father Charged With Murder for Allegedly Shooting Son Because He Was Gay

From the names it looks like this is a muslim family.

 

[Katzndogz]

From the names it looks like this is a muslim family. A fair conclusion from the names. It doesn't make any difference since neither muslims nor christians have an obligation to be killed by a mentally ill adult child.

 

[Katzndogz]

How much different these situations would be if, when told their lifestyles weren't acceptable and go, the adult children would just leave. This man was 29 years old, still living with the parents who rejected him, Go. Just go. 29 is old enough.

 

[Syriusly]

I
They are mentally ill. The manifestation of mental illness is homosexuality, but not the only one. That's why they commit suicide, they exhibit in other ways.

Yet most gays don't commit suicide.

Your thesis is faulty because you posit that all gays are mentally ill- and thats why they commit suicide- yet the vast majority of homosexuals never commit suicide.

You have decided that homosexuals are mentally ill- because of your biases. Not because of evidence.

The same kind of mental illness doesn't manifest in everyone in exactly the same way. All gays do not have to commit suicide for homosexuality to be a mental illness. Some people who are bi polar or schizophrenic commit suicide. That they all do not attempt suicide doesn't mean that these conditions aren't forms of illness. .

So exactly what do you base your diagnosis that every gay person is mentally ill upon then- since it isn't that they commit suicide?

Your hunch? That you find them 'icky'?

Up until the gay lobby forced a change in diagnosis, homosexuality was on the list of diagnosed mental illness. That social engineering forced this kind of change doesn't really change the form of the illness.

Homosexuality was on the list of diagnosed mental illnesses from 1952 until 1973- 21 years- and has not been a diagnosis from 1973 to 2015- 42 years. That is right- that has not been a diagnosis for twice as long- for 42 years now.

And why did they change the diagnosis? Because there was no science to support it.

This study in particular was and is instructive- for those who wanted to base diagnosis of mental illness on something other than bias against homosexuals

Homosexuality and Mental Health

Hooker's (1957) study was innovative in several important respects. First, rather than simply accepting the predominant view of homosexuality as pathology, she posed the question of whether homosexuals and heterosexuals differed in their psychological adjustment. Second, rather than studying psychiatric patients, she recruited a sample of homosexual men who were functioning normally in society. Third, she employed a procedure that asked experts to rate the adjustment of men without prior knowledge of their sexual orientation. This method addressed an important source of bias that had vitiated so many previous studies of homosexuality.


Hooker administered three projective tests (the Rorschach, Thematic Apperception Test [TAT], and Make-A-Picture-Story [MAPS] Test) to 30 homosexual males and 30 heterosexual males recruited through community organizations. The two groups were matched for age, IQ, and education. None of the men were in therapy at the time of the study.
Unaware of each subject's sexual orientation, two independent Rorschach experts evaluated the men's overall adjustment using a 5-point scale. They classified two-thirds of the heterosexuals and two-thirds of the homosexuals in the three highest categories of adjustment. When asked to identify which Rorschach protocols were obtained from homosexuals, the experts could not distinguish respondents' sexual orientation at a level better than chance.

A third expert used the TAT and MAPS protocols to evaluate the psychological adjustment of the men. As with the Rorschach responses, the adjustment ratings of the homosexuals and heterosexuals did not differ significantly.

Hooker concluded from her data that homosexuality is not a clinical entity and that homosexuality is not inherently associated with psychopathology.

 

[Syriusly]

From the names it looks like this is a muslim family. A fair conclusion from the names..

Quoting you:

I never suggested they were muslim.
From the names it looks like this is a muslim family.

You lied.

Why you felt it necessary to speculate that the family was muslim, and why you felt it necessary to lie about not suggesting that they were Musim I don't know.

 

[Syriusly]

How much different these situations would be if, when told their lifestyles weren't acceptable and go, the adult children would just leave. This man was 29 years old, still living with the parents who rejected him, Go. Just go. 29 is old enough.

How much different these situations would be if:
a) bigots didn't suggest that the families were Muslim and
b) bigots didn't want to excuse murder when the person killed was gay and
c) Dad's didn't shoot their son's with shotguns....

 

[Katzndogz]

It was taken off the list for political reasons.

Why can't adult homosexual children not leave when told? Why do they continue to demand acceptance when it is clear they aren't going to get it. Why fight with parents? What do they imagine they will get.

Can any homosexual answer that?

 

[Katzndogz]

How much different these situations would be if, when told their lifestyles weren't acceptable and go, the adult children would just leave. This man was 29 years old, still living with the parents who rejected him, Go. Just go. 29 is old enough.

How much different these situations would be if:
a) bigots didn't suggest that the families were Muslim and
b) bigots didn't want to excuse murder when the person killed was gay and
c) Dad's didn't shoot their son's with shotguns....

Dads do shoot their sons when that son is coming at them with a knife. The son should have left. Dad doesn't like my boyfriend. Good bye dad.

 

[Katzndogz]

The inappropriate need for family validation and acceptance might be more manifestation of the mental illness.

 

[Katzndogz]

I've known a number of gays and lesbians in my life. Most of them were rejected by their families. They all left. I can't think of a single one that hung around demanding acceptance.

It must be a new thing.

 

[Correll]

North Hills Father Charged With Murder for Allegedly Shooting Son Because He Was Gay

From the names it looks like this is a muslim family.

The son was probably being obnoxious and badgering his father demanding dad meet his demands. The old man couldn't take it any more.

You sound somewhat judgmental.

I though it was established that all cultures are equal, and that any disagreement with that point was proof, PROOF mind you, of bigotry and racism.

Vibrant cultural diversity, like some people choosing to kill their own children is going to be part of the Future Multicultural America that Third World Immigration and Liberal Indoctrination is making.

You aren't afraid of change are you? You filthy bigot.