FDR Admiration Society

[westwall]

Worst US President ever - by far.

Beat the Japs and the Nazi's all at once...

No, the military beat the Japs and Nazis all at once. FDR wisely rubber-stamped whatever they wanted.

Hardly,, as FDR was the Commander in Chief, had the US lost FDR's name would be mud...

You can thank Marshall for the American victory in WWII. When FDR and his acolytes were strangling the US military it was Marshall who ensured that the brightest minds were placed in the most appropriate positions to prepare for the inevitable war that he knew was coming thanks to the progressives lack of diplomatic skills to keep Hitler et al under control.

Marshall, more than any other person is responsible for the USA's victory in WWII and the elevation to super power.

 

[Old Rocks]

1. Lied the US into WWII
2. Attacked a Country that did not attack the US..
3. Rounded up Americans and gave them loyalty tests.
4. Built the military industrial complex that the far left wants to dismantle.
5. Created the Welfare Society that was supposed to be temporary..
7. Started social security and sold to the American people as temporary.
8. Reinstated the income tax to pay for the war which was supposed to be temporary.
9. Tried to replace judges that were against is socialist/communist bills..
10. Had a privileged childhood.
11. Tried to increase the size of the Supreme Court.
12. One of the top racist presidents of all time..

etc...

hey, corksmoker, explain #2.

 

[regent]

1. Lied the US into WWII
2. Attacked a Country that did not attack the US..
3. Rounded up Americans and gave them loyalty tests.
4. Built the military industrial complex that the far left wants to dismantle.
5. Created the Welfare Society that was supposed to be temporary..
7. Started social security and sold to the American people as temporary.
8. Reinstated the income tax to pay for the war which was supposed to be temporary.
9. Tried to replace judges that were against is socialist/communist bills..
10. Had a privileged childhood.
11. Tried to increase the size of the Supreme Court.
12. One of the top racist presidents of all time..

etc...

hey, corksmoker, explain #2.

Hey, you know Hitler, always playing around and his declaring war on the US was a real gasser. Play, play, play what a guy. Damn FDR took him seriously.
By the way to number 11, know of any other presidents that changed the Supreme Court to affect legislation, there were three.
FDR didn't round up the Japanese and Japanese-Americans for loyalty oaths but to prevent possible sabotage.
Social Security was permanent and always meant to be. In fact, it was created so Republicans could not drop it when in office.
As for the privileged, the Constitution makes no mention of it, America being the land of equality and all that.
An amendment to the Constitution does not seem temporary.

 

[Unkotare]

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FDR didn't round up the Japanese and Japanese-Americans for loyalty oaths but to prevent possible sabotage.....

Bullshit.

 

[regent]

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FDR didn't round up the Japanese and Japanese-Americans for loyalty oaths but to prevent possible sabotage.....

Bullshit.

Is that your favorite response or the easiest? In any case are you suggesting that loyalty oaths were FDR's reason for the internment camps?

 

[Unkotare]

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FDR didn't round up the Japanese and Japanese-Americans for loyalty oaths but to prevent possible sabotage.....

Bullshit.

Is that your favorite response or the easiest? In any case are you suggesting that loyalty oaths were FDR's reason for the internment camps?

Nope.

 

[rightwinger]

Without question, FDR was our greatest modern President

He reestablished the office of the President into a leader and not just a figurehead who followed the lead of Congress like Harding, Coolidge and Hoover

 

[PoliticalChic]

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FDR didn't round up the Japanese and Japanese-Americans for loyalty oaths but to prevent possible sabotage.....

Bullshit.

Is that your favorite response or the easiest? In any case are you suggesting that loyalty oaths were FDR's reason for the internment camps?

1. "Civil liberties were given up during WWII. Also a surprising fact, to me at least, was to find out that although FDR and Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren favored the internment of Japanese Americans, one of the most significant conservative figures of that time and for some time in the future was against it, and that man was John Edgar Hoover. We also learn that all the things that Nixon was accused of doing during the Watergate scandal, FDR and his cronies had done to a greater extent about 30 years earlier and to a greater degree."

2. "The internment of 110,000 Japanese seems to have been largely political. Earl Warren of California was sensitive to his constituents resenting the large success of the Japanese in agriculture. And, interned, they couldn’t vote against FDR, and he did pick up three House seats…and after the election he began to move for the release of the Japanese.:
"FDR Goes To War: How Expanded Executive Power, Spiraling National Debt, And Restricted Civil Liberties Shaped Wartime America," by Burton W. Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom

 

[PoliticalChic]

Without question, FDR was our greatest modern President

He reestablished the office of the President into a leader and not just a figurehead who followed the lead of Congress like Harding, Coolidge and Hoover

The 'without question' part is an indication of serious cerebral damage...an industrial accident???.....you should have looked at.

 

[Camp]

Before FDR the focus of government was on big business and a belief in the trickle-down theory. The guiding force behind the economy was that if big business did well, the benefits would trickle down to the masses. FDR changed that. He put the government's focus on the masses and introduced the trickle up theory. If the masses do well financially, the benefits will trickle up to big business. It worked, but big business has been fighting it and trying to get back to a trickle-down economy ever since.

 

[rightwinger]

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FDR didn't round up the Japanese and Japanese-Americans for loyalty oaths but to prevent possible sabotage.....

Bullshit.

Is that your favorite response or the easiest? In any case are you suggesting that loyalty oaths were FDR's reason for the internment camps?

1. "Civil liberties were given up during WWII. Also a surprising fact, to me at least, was to find out that although FDR and Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren favored the internment of Japanese Americans, one of the most significant conservative figures of that time and for some time in the future was against it, and that man was John Edgar Hoover. We also learn that all the things that Nixon was accused of doing during the Watergate scandal, FDR and his cronies had done to a greater extent about 30 years earlier and to a greater degree."

2. "The internment of 110,000 Japanese seems to have been largely political. Earl Warren of California was sensitive to his constituents resenting the large success of the Japanese in agriculture. And, interned, they couldn’t vote against FDR, and he did pick up three House seats…and after the election he began to move for the release of the Japanese.:
"FDR Goes To War: How Expanded Executive Power, Spiraling National Debt, And Restricted Civil Liberties Shaped Wartime America," by Burton W. Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom

Revisionist history is great isn't it?
You get to look at decisions from 75, 150, 200 years ago and condemn them as inappropriate

Washington and Jefferson owned slaves
Lincoln did not agree with the equality of blacks or women
FDR interred Japanese citizens

Guess there were no great American Presidents

 

[rightwinger]

Without question, FDR was our greatest modern President

He reestablished the office of the President into a leader and not just a figurehead who followed the lead of Congress like Harding, Coolidge and Hoover

The 'without question' part is an indication of serious cerebral damage...an industrial accident???.....you should have looked at.

Without question as in by a huge margin

There is no other modern President even close to FDR

 

[Unkotare]

That piece of shit fdr threatened our Constitution and very form of government. He was the only person to hold the office who so lusted for power that he scorned Washington's example and necessitated an amendment to guard against such potential tyranny in the future. He was personally odious, economically clueless and reckless, and downright sinister in his hatred and disregard for life and liberty. Our country was never in greater peril than when that selfish, dishonest, arrogant villain soiled our White House. Unsurprisingly, obama took him as a role model of arrogant incompetence and executive overreaching.

 

[gipper]

Without question, FDR was our greatest modern President

He reestablished the office of the President into a leader and not just a figurehead who followed the lead of Congress like Harding, Coolidge and Hoover

Without question the worst president since Dishonest Abe.

 

[rightwinger]

That piece of shit fdr threatened our Constitution and very form of government. He was the only person to hold the office who so lusted for power that he scorned Washington's example and necessitated an amendment to guard against such potential tyranny in the future. He was personally odious, economically clueless and reckless, and downright sinister in his hatred and disregard for life and liberty. Our country was never in greater peril than when that selfish, dishonest, arrogant villain soiled our White House. Unsurprisingly, obama took him as a role model of arrogant incompetence and executive overreaching.

Desperate times called for desperate measures

The Great Depression and WWII. Two cataclysmic events. Not time to play mother may I and worry about the hurt feelings of Congress

FDR stepped to the plate and dared them......Try and stop me

 

[PoliticalChic]

...
FDR didn't round up the Japanese and Japanese-Americans for loyalty oaths but to prevent possible sabotage.....

Bullshit.

Is that your favorite response or the easiest? In any case are you suggesting that loyalty oaths were FDR's reason for the internment camps?

1. "Civil liberties were given up during WWII. Also a surprising fact, to me at least, was to find out that although FDR and Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren favored the internment of Japanese Americans, one of the most significant conservative figures of that time and for some time in the future was against it, and that man was John Edgar Hoover. We also learn that all the things that Nixon was accused of doing during the Watergate scandal, FDR and his cronies had done to a greater extent about 30 years earlier and to a greater degree."

2. "The internment of 110,000 Japanese seems to have been largely political. Earl Warren of California was sensitive to his constituents resenting the large success of the Japanese in agriculture. And, interned, they couldn’t vote against FDR, and he did pick up three House seats…and after the election he began to move for the release of the Japanese.:
"FDR Goes To War: How Expanded Executive Power, Spiraling National Debt, And Restricted Civil Liberties Shaped Wartime America," by Burton W. Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom

Revisionist history is great isn't it?
You get to look at decisions from 75, 150, 200 years ago and condemn them as inappropriate

Washington and Jefferson owned slaves
Lincoln did not agree with the equality of blacks or women
FDR interred Japanese citizens

Guess there were no great American Presidents

"Guess there were no great American Presidents."

The one who reversed Roosevelt's support for Soviet Communism....the great Ronaldus Maximus.

He also reversed FDR's Depression with a 'golden age' of domestic economics.

You should read about that....
...er, have someone read it to you.

 

[Camp]

That piece of shit fdr threatened our Constitution and very form of government. He was the only person to hold the office who so lusted for power that he scorned Washington's example and necessitated an amendment to guard against such potential tyranny in the future. He was personally odious, economically clueless and reckless, and downright sinister in his hatred and disregard for life and liberty. Our country was never in greater peril than when that selfish, dishonest, arrogant villain soiled our White House. Unsurprisingly, obama took him as a role model of arrogant incompetence and executive overreaching.

The US was attacked by genuine vile animals. The Japanese of that era were simply horrible human beings who prepared to annihilate America even if it took bio weapons they developed with their Unit 731 programs and delivered by balloon bombs. Those balloon bombs had been successfully tested using incendiary bombs, some of which reached the mid-west.
The nation was never in greater peril than when it faced Japan and Germany in WWll, two nations with huge militaries and advanced technology. FDR was reelected over and over because the masses known as America's Greatest Generation believed he was the leader needed to defeat the enemies at the gate.

 

[rightwinger]

...
FDR didn't round up the Japanese and Japanese-Americans for loyalty oaths but to prevent possible sabotage.....

Bullshit.

Is that your favorite response or the easiest? In any case are you suggesting that loyalty oaths were FDR's reason for the internment camps?

1. "Civil liberties were given up during WWII. Also a surprising fact, to me at least, was to find out that although FDR and Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren favored the internment of Japanese Americans, one of the most significant conservative figures of that time and for some time in the future was against it, and that man was John Edgar Hoover. We also learn that all the things that Nixon was accused of doing during the Watergate scandal, FDR and his cronies had done to a greater extent about 30 years earlier and to a greater degree."

2. "The internment of 110,000 Japanese seems to have been largely political. Earl Warren of California was sensitive to his constituents resenting the large success of the Japanese in agriculture. And, interned, they couldn’t vote against FDR, and he did pick up three House seats…and after the election he began to move for the release of the Japanese.:
"FDR Goes To War: How Expanded Executive Power, Spiraling National Debt, And Restricted Civil Liberties Shaped Wartime America," by Burton W. Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom

Revisionist history is great isn't it?
You get to look at decisions from 75, 150, 200 years ago and condemn them as inappropriate

Washington and Jefferson owned slaves
Lincoln did not agree with the equality of blacks or women
FDR interred Japanese citizens

Guess there were no great American Presidents

"Guess there were no great American Presidents."

The one who reversed Roosevelt's support for Soviet Communism....the great Ronaldus Maximus.

He also revered FDR's Depression with a 'golden age' of domestic economics.

You should read about that....
...er, have someone read it to you.

Reagan was an FDR supporter

 

[Camp]

...
FDR didn't round up the Japanese and Japanese-Americans for loyalty oaths but to prevent possible sabotage.....

Bullshit.

Is that your favorite response or the easiest? In any case are you suggesting that loyalty oaths were FDR's reason for the internment camps?

1. "Civil liberties were given up during WWII. Also a surprising fact, to me at least, was to find out that although FDR and Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren favored the internment of Japanese Americans, one of the most significant conservative figures of that time and for some time in the future was against it, and that man was John Edgar Hoover. We also learn that all the things that Nixon was accused of doing during the Watergate scandal, FDR and his cronies had done to a greater extent about 30 years earlier and to a greater degree."

2. "The internment of 110,000 Japanese seems to have been largely political. Earl Warren of California was sensitive to his constituents resenting the large success of the Japanese in agriculture. And, interned, they couldn’t vote against FDR, and he did pick up three House seats…and after the election he began to move for the release of the Japanese.:
"FDR Goes To War: How Expanded Executive Power, Spiraling National Debt, And Restricted Civil Liberties Shaped Wartime America," by Burton W. Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom

Revisionist history is great isn't it?
You get to look at decisions from 75, 150, 200 years ago and condemn them as inappropriate

Washington and Jefferson owned slaves
Lincoln did not agree with the equality of blacks or women
FDR interred Japanese citizens

Guess there were no great American Presidents

"Guess there were no great American Presidents."

The one who reversed Roosevelt's support for Soviet Communism....the great Ronaldus Maximus.

He also revered FDR's Depression with a 'golden age' of domestic economics.

You should read about that....
...er, have someone read it to you.

The Cold War was developed under Truman and Eisenhower. No one can possibly know how FDR would have handled Stalin and the USSR when WWll ended. FDR had died. He was dead.
The USSR fell after Reagan left office. Historians record that Reagan was one of the several figures that helped bring about the fall. Many argue that the Pope had far more influence than Reagan. FDR smashed Japan and Germany into unconditional surrenders, America still faces the remnants of the USSR.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Bullshit.

Is that your favorite response or the easiest? In any case are you suggesting that loyalty oaths were FDR's reason for the internment camps?

1. "Civil liberties were given up during WWII. Also a surprising fact, to me at least, was to find out that although FDR and Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren favored the internment of Japanese Americans, one of the most significant conservative figures of that time and for some time in the future was against it, and that man was John Edgar Hoover. We also learn that all the things that Nixon was accused of doing during the Watergate scandal, FDR and his cronies had done to a greater extent about 30 years earlier and to a greater degree."

2. "The internment of 110,000 Japanese seems to have been largely political. Earl Warren of California was sensitive to his constituents resenting the large success of the Japanese in agriculture. And, interned, they couldn’t vote against FDR, and he did pick up three House seats…and after the election he began to move for the release of the Japanese.:
"FDR Goes To War: How Expanded Executive Power, Spiraling National Debt, And Restricted Civil Liberties Shaped Wartime America," by Burton W. Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom

Revisionist history is great isn't it?
You get to look at decisions from 75, 150, 200 years ago and condemn them as inappropriate

Washington and Jefferson owned slaves
Lincoln did not agree with the equality of blacks or women
FDR interred Japanese citizens

Guess there were no great American Presidents

"Guess there were no great American Presidents."

The one who reversed Roosevelt's support for Soviet Communism....the great Ronaldus Maximus.

He also revered FDR's Depression with a 'golden age' of domestic economics.

You should read about that....
...er, have someone read it to you.

Reagan was an FDR supporter

Good to see you didn't deny this:

The one who reversed Roosevelt's support for Soviet Communism....the great Ronaldus Maximus.

He also revered FDR's Depression with a 'golden age' of domestic economics.


So....you're learning?