FDR- the Icon Hero of the Left

[Moonglow]

Fascism is just one of many favors of Progressivism, right and center and left.

Like "Progressivism", Fascism is government control left wing ideology

Not really since the GOP has done it in US history, in fact they started the movement...

Taking a cue from their Founding Fathers: Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Castro, proto-Communists known as Progressive Democrats weaponized the FBI and turned it against their political opponents

The progressive movement started in 1881.....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Fascism is just one of many favors of Progressivism, right and center and left.

Like "Progressivism", Fascism is government control left wing ideology

Not really since the GOP has done it in US history, in fact they started the movement...

Taking a cue from their Founding Fathers: Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Castro, proto-Communists known as Progressive Democrats weaponized the FBI and turned it against their political opponents

The progressive movement started in 1881.....

Oh, really? Who started it?

 

[Moonglow]

Fascism is just one of many favors of Progressivism, right and center and left.

Like "Progressivism", Fascism is government control left wing ideology

Not really since the GOP has done it in US history, in fact they started the movement...

Taking a cue from their Founding Fathers: Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Castro, proto-Communists known as Progressive Democrats weaponized the FBI and turned it against their political opponents

The progressive movement started in 1881.....

Oh, really? Who started it?

NYC republicans...who else.?

 

[regent]

One of the problems of history is putting readers back to a previous time. Historians try to convey what a people were thinking and how they put those thoughts into action, but they can never really convey the reality of the time. Even those that lived through the Pearl Harbor period can see it differently. Most Americans were fearful and angry, and to ease the fear they interred the Japanese, and as the fear eased they began letting the internees leave.
A footnote to my reading, one author said that those that left the camps came out in better health than when they went in.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Like "Progressivism", Fascism is government control left wing ideology

Not really since the GOP has done it in US history, in fact they started the movement...

Taking a cue from their Founding Fathers: Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Castro, proto-Communists known as Progressive Democrats weaponized the FBI and turned it against their political opponents

The progressive movement started in 1881.....

Oh, really? Who started it?

NYC republicans...who else.?

Oh wait, but that was before the Parties "Switched sides" right? So don't you mean Democrats?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

One of the problems of history is putting readers back to a previous time. Historians try to convey what a people were thinking and how they put those thoughts into action, but they can never really convey the reality of the time. Even those that lived through the Pearl Harbor period can see it differently. Most Americans were fearful and angry, and to ease the fear they interred the Japanese, and as the fear eased they began letting the internees leave.
A footnote to my reading, one author said that those that left the camps came out in better health than when they went in.

Please! Progressives also said that starving to death is "Beautiful"

 

[Moonglow]

Ever hear of a guy named Teddy Roosevelt? A progressive...

 

[Moonglow]

Not really since the GOP has done it in US history, in fact they started the movement...

Taking a cue from their Founding Fathers: Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Castro, proto-Communists known as Progressive Democrats weaponized the FBI and turned it against their political opponents

The progressive movement started in 1881.....

Oh, really? Who started it?

NYC republicans...who else.?

Oh wait, but that was before the Parties "Switched sides" right? So don't you mean Democrats?

Nope that would be when the party was called Democratic-Republican party.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ever hear of a guy named Teddy Roosevelt? A progressive...

Before the Parties "Switched sides" correct?

 

[Moonglow]

Ever hear of a guy named Teddy Roosevelt? A progressive...

Before the Parties "Switched sides" correct?

Yes the dems took over around FDR's time...The dems were the conservatives before then..

 

[Unkotare]

That’s funny, that’s exactly what every mindless, vile racist on this site says - repeatedly.

Japs [sic] were evil, untrustworthy and setting up a west coast invasion
Incarcerating them to be safe was the only reasonable solution

We are talking about AMERICAN CITIZENS, and throwing AMERICAN CITIZENS into concentration camps was anything but “reasonable,” which any real American would know.

Yup

In 1942 we had black AMERICAN CITIZENS who were denied the vote, denied the use of a restroom, segregated from society. We had Mexicans and Indians who were treated the same in their communities. We had women denied education and jobs because of their sex

You really think the Japanese were going to get a fair shake after Pearl Harbor?

You meant to say “you really think the AMERICANS were going to get a fair shake?”

There are plenty of racist idiots in America today too. I guess that makes everything and anything alright now, right you illogical buffoon? Anything that racist, arrogant, dishonest, dishonorable piece of shit fdr did is just fine because “the other kids were doing it!” Is that it, genius?

It is easy to make those claims today

But it is not who we were in 1942. Looking back 75 years it is easy to say how wrong they were

In the context of post Pearl Harbor 1942.....you really can't expect better

Shameless apologist bullshit. AMERICAN CITIZENS did not attack Pearl Harbor, and we damn well knew in the 1940s that throwing people into concentration camps was wrong.

 

[Unkotare]

How many Korean "Comfort Girls" did the Japs [sic] put into rape camps?

American citizens and legal immigrants put exactly zero, professor.

 

[rightwinger]

Japs [sic] were evil, untrustworthy and setting up a west coast invasion
Incarcerating them to be safe was the only reasonable solution

We are talking about AMERICAN CITIZENS, and throwing AMERICAN CITIZENS into concentration camps was anything but “reasonable,” which any real American would know.

Yup

In 1942 we had black AMERICAN CITIZENS who were denied the vote, denied the use of a restroom, segregated from society. We had Mexicans and Indians who were treated the same in their communities. We had women denied education and jobs because of their sex

You really think the Japanese were going to get a fair shake after Pearl Harbor?

You meant to say “you really think the AMERICANS were going to get a fair shake?”

There are plenty of racist idiots in America today too. I guess that makes everything and anything alright now, right you illogical buffoon? Anything that racist, arrogant, dishonest, dishonorable piece of shit fdr did is just fine because “the other kids were doing it!” Is that it, genius?

It is easy to make those claims today

But it is not who we were in 1942. Looking back 75 years it is easy to say how wrong they were

In the context of post Pearl Harbor 1942.....you really can't expect better

Shameless apologist bullshit. AMERICAN CITIZENS did not attack Pearl Harbor, and we damn well knew in the 1940s that throwing people into concentration camps was wrong.

American Muslims did not attack on 9-11
But our President still accused them of celebrating the attack

Sometimes prejudice overwhelms common sense and decency

 

[Unkotare]

One of the problems of history is putting readers back to a previous time. Historians try to convey what a people were thinking and how they put those thoughts into action, but they can never really convey the reality of the time. Even those that lived through the Pearl Harbor period can see it differently. Most Americans were fearful and angry, and to ease the fear they interred the Japanese, and as the fear eased they began letting the internees leave.
A footnote to my reading, one author said that those that left the camps came out in better health than when they went in.

Not the ones who were killed.


Are you one of those brilliant humanitarians who insists that black Americans should be grateful for slavery?

 

[Unkotare]

We are talking about AMERICAN CITIZENS, and throwing AMERICAN CITIZENS into concentration camps was anything but “reasonable,” which any real American would know.

Yup

In 1942 we had black AMERICAN CITIZENS who were denied the vote, denied the use of a restroom, segregated from society. We had Mexicans and Indians who were treated the same in their communities. We had women denied education and jobs because of their sex

You really think the Japanese were going to get a fair shake after Pearl Harbor?

You meant to say “you really think the AMERICANS were going to get a fair shake?”

There are plenty of racist idiots in America today too. I guess that makes everything and anything alright now, right you illogical buffoon? Anything that racist, arrogant, dishonest, dishonorable piece of shit fdr did is just fine because “the other kids were doing it!” Is that it, genius?

It is easy to make those claims today

But it is not who we were in 1942. Looking back 75 years it is easy to say how wrong they were

In the context of post Pearl Harbor 1942.....you really can't expect better

Shameless apologist bullshit. AMERICAN CITIZENS did not attack Pearl Harbor, and we damn well knew in the 1940s that throwing people into concentration camps was wrong.

American Muslims did not attack on 9-11
But our President still accused them of celebrating the attack

.....

Not our president at the time.

 

[otto105]

" The Ringle Report, from the Office of Naval Intelligence, found that only a small percentage of Japanese Americans posed a potential security threat, and that the most dangerous were already known or in custody."

Confession of Error: The Solicitor General's Mistakes During the Japanese-American Internment Cases

Progs count history as fake news, which is why they ignore the history of collectivist states like Nazi Germany and the former USSR, cuz they still think it could work, if only.......

Pre Second World War II Germany was a facsist State not a collective state.

But thanks for failing again at a point.

So what is the difference between fascism and collectivism in your opinion?

From my vantage point fascism Is just one of many flavors of collectivism.

If there pretty much the same to you, then we have a problem with your understanding of both.


So first question, did Hitler ban labor unions?

 

[regent]

One of the problems of history is putting readers back to a previous time. Historians try to convey what a people were thinking and how they put those thoughts into action, but they can never really convey the reality of the time. Even those that lived through the Pearl Harbor period can see it differently. Most Americans were fearful and angry, and to ease the fear they interred the Japanese, and as the fear eased they began letting the internees leave.
A footnote to my reading, one author said that those that left the camps came out in better health than when they went in.

Please! Progressives also said that starving to death is "Beautiful"

One of the problems of history is putting readers back to a previous time. Historians try to convey what a people were thinking and how they put those thoughts into action, but they can never really convey the reality of the time. Even those that lived through the Pearl Harbor period can see it differently. Most Americans were fearful and angry, and to ease the fear they interred the Japanese, and as the fear eased they began letting the internees leave.
A footnote to my reading, one author said that those that left the camps came out in better health than when they went in.

Not the ones who were killed.


Are you one of those brilliant humanitarians who insists that black Americans should be grateful for slavery?

You mean the Americans killed at Pearl Harbor?

 

[Unkotare]

One of the problems of history is putting readers back to a previous time. Historians try to convey what a people were thinking and how they put those thoughts into action, but they can never really convey the reality of the time. Even those that lived through the Pearl Harbor period can see it differently. Most Americans were fearful and angry, and to ease the fear they interred the Japanese, and as the fear eased they began letting the internees leave.
A footnote to my reading, one author said that those that left the camps came out in better health than when they went in.

Please! Progressives also said that starving to death is "Beautiful"

One of the problems of history is putting readers back to a previous time. Historians try to convey what a people were thinking and how they put those thoughts into action, but they can never really convey the reality of the time. Even those that lived through the Pearl Harbor period can see it differently. Most Americans were fearful and angry, and to ease the fear they interred the Japanese, and as the fear eased they began letting the internees leave.
A footnote to my reading, one author said that those that left the camps came out in better health than when they went in.

Not the ones who were killed.


Are you one of those brilliant humanitarians who insists that black Americans should be grateful for slavery?

You mean the Americans killed at Pearl Harbor?

You have trouble reading, or just trouble being honest?

 

[regent]

Maybe the problem is your writing? What was the purpose of bringing slavery into the argument?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Japs [sic] were evil, untrustworthy and setting up a west coast invasion
Incarcerating them to be safe was the only reasonable solution

We are talking about AMERICAN CITIZENS, and throwing AMERICAN CITIZENS into concentration camps was anything but “reasonable,” which any real American would know.

Yup

In 1942 we had black AMERICAN CITIZENS who were denied the vote, denied the use of a restroom, segregated from society. We had Mexicans and Indians who were treated the same in their communities. We had women denied education and jobs because of their sex

You really think the Japanese were going to get a fair shake after Pearl Harbor?

You meant to say “you really think the AMERICANS were going to get a fair shake?”

There are plenty of racist idiots in America today too. I guess that makes everything and anything alright now, right you illogical buffoon? Anything that racist, arrogant, dishonest, dishonorable piece of shit fdr did is just fine because “the other kids were doing it!” Is that it, genius?

It is easy to make those claims today

But it is not who we were in 1942. Looking back 75 years it is easy to say how wrong they were

In the context of post Pearl Harbor 1942.....you really can't expect better

Shameless apologist bullshit. AMERICAN CITIZENS did not attack Pearl Harbor, and we damn well knew in the 1940s that throwing people into concentration camps was wrong.

Notice how the left all jump into the "But Mussolini made the trains run on time" excuse? The left love fascism and will defend it every opportunity.