FEMA Deceives Nation About Twin Towers Core

[DiveCon]

wow, totally delusional

 

[Albury Smith]

You are pretending to be reasonable in order to interfere with citizens seeking to see that the Constitution is secure. Any time you pretend, you are interefering. Interference is your intent.

If this is not true, you will post reasonable evidence, and construction photos are not reasonable because it has been shown a number of times that what they show is not constructed strong enough to stand as a core column. And the empty core proves it.

Under the transparent guise of being reasonable, you've just managed to avoid addressing every point I just made. Show some credible evidence of these alleged concrete walls in the cores, explain how explosives could separate them from the "3-inch rebar" while leaving the concrete itself relatively intact, or give it up.

Actually the thread asserts there were no steel core columns, ........... and no one has provided any independently verified evidence of the FEMA steel core.

I've shown concrete surrounding the core and no reasonable person with some experience in materials recognition could say otherwise. They could also say there are no steel columns in the core, or the core is empty.

The thread is not about explaining where the concrete went, it is about showing that the steel core columns never existed and that FEAM lied.

This is a steel reinforced cast concrete core,

And that is what L.E. Robertson identified on September 13, 2001.

There were no steel core columns. It is a lie used to diminish the force of the Constitution by sabotaging the analysis of the cause of death in a mass murder.

There were 47 steel core columns, and there was no concrete, with the exception of the floor slab, and possibly the stair treads, in the tower cores above grade. This simple fact is corroborated by every photo of a WTC tower core posted to this thread. You also haven't explained how explosives or anything else could have separated the alleged concrete in your imaginary walls from the "3-inch rebar" you claim was left standing momentarily during the collapse shown in your photo.

 

[Albury Smith]

wow, totally delusional

Did you check out this wacko's new avatar? That's the rest of his brain cells oozing out.

 

[DiveCon]

Under the transparent guise of being reasonable, you've just managed to avoid addressing every point I just made. Show some credible evidence of these alleged concrete walls in the cores, explain how explosives could separate them from the "3-inch rebar" while leaving the concrete itself relatively intact, or give it up.

Actually the thread asserts there were no steel core columns, ........... and no one has provided any independently verified evidence of the FEMA steel core.

I've shown concrete surrounding the core and no reasonable person with some experience in materials recognition could say otherwise. They could also say there are no steel columns in the core, or the core is empty.

The thread is not about explaining where the concrete went, it is about showing that the steel core columns never existed and that FEAM lied.

This is a steel reinforced cast concrete core,

And that is what L.E. Robertson identified on September 13, 2001.

There were no steel core columns. It is a lie used to diminish the force of the Constitution by sabotaging the analysis of the cause of death in a mass murder.

There were 47 steel core columns, and there was no concrete, with the exception of the floor slab, and possibly the stair treads, in the tower cores above grade. This simple fact is corroborated by every photo of a WTC tower core posted to this thread. You also haven't explained how explosives or anything else could have separated the alleged concrete in your imaginary walls from the "3-inch rebar" you claim was left standing momentarily during the collapse shown in your photo.

yeah 3" DOD rebar

 

[DiveCon]

wow, totally delusional

Did you check out this wacko's new avatar? That's the rest of his brain cells oozing out.

yeah, but we're just government agents

 

[Albury Smith]

Actually the thread asserts there were no steel core columns, ........... and no one has provided any independently verified evidence of the FEMA steel core.

I've shown concrete surrounding the core and no reasonable person with some experience in materials recognition could say otherwise. They could also say there are no steel columns in the core, or the core is empty.

The thread is not about explaining where the concrete went, it is about showing that the steel core columns never existed and that FEAM lied.

This is a steel reinforced cast concrete core,

And that is what L.E. Robertson identified on September 13, 2001.

There were no steel core columns. It is a lie used to diminish the force of the Constitution by sabotaging the analysis of the cause of death in a mass murder.

There were 47 steel core columns, and there was no concrete, with the exception of the floor slab, and possibly the stair treads, in the tower cores above grade. This simple fact is corroborated by every photo of a WTC tower core posted to this thread. You also haven't explained how explosives or anything else could have separated the alleged concrete in your imaginary walls from the "3-inch rebar" you claim was left standing momentarily during the collapse shown in your photo.

yeah 3" DOD rebar

Jeepers, it was not "DoD rebar;" it was special order, custom, super duper, top-secret, high-tensile, 3" rebar made in a "DoD steel mill" (although it's uncertain why the DoD would be in the steel fabricating business, or why contractors hired by the Port Authority of NY and NJ would order steel from them for a civilian project), and given a 490#/cu. ft. density for steel, a 20-footer weighed only ~480#, so they used fork trucks and miniature cranes to move it, even though it's so small that you can't see it in any construction photos. Please try to keep up, DC.

 

[Christophera]

Jeepers, it was not "DoD rebar;" it was special order, custom, super duper, top-secret, high-tensile, 3" rebar made in a "DoD steel mill"

Lay off the crack pipe for a while.

http://home.comcast.net/~jeffrey.king2/spire_dust-3.jpg

(although it's uncertain why the DoD would be in the steel fabricating business, or why contractors hired by the Port Authority of NY and NJ would order steel from them for a civilian project), and given a 490#/cu. ft. density for steel, a 20-footer weighed only ~480#, so they used fork trucks and miniature cranes to move it, even though it's so small that you can't see it in any construction photos. Please try to keep up, DC.

Since there is no other explanation for what is seen, you must be serving your masters needs to keep the methods of mass murder secret. Since there is no independently verified evidence for the steel core columns, yuo are exposed.

 

[DiveCon]

Jeepers, it was not "DoD rebar;" it was special order, custom, super duper, top-secret, high-tensile, 3" rebar made in a "DoD steel mill"

Lay off the crack pipe for a while.

http://home.comcast.net/~jeffrey.king2/spire_dust-3.jpg

(although it's uncertain why the DoD would be in the steel fabricating business, or why contractors hired by the Port Authority of NY and NJ would order steel from them for a civilian project), and given a 490#/cu. ft. density for steel, a 20-footer weighed only ~480#, so they used fork trucks and miniature cranes to move it, even though it's so small that you can't see it in any construction photos. Please try to keep up, DC.

Since there is no other explanation for what is seen, you must be serving your masters needs to keep the methods of mass murder secret. Since there is no independently verified evidence for the steel core columns, yuo are exposed.

thats NOT rebar

 

[Christophera]

Jeepers, it was not "DoD rebar;" it was special order, custom, super duper, top-secret, high-tensile, 3" rebar made in a "DoD steel mill"

Lay off the crack pipe for a while.

(although it's uncertain why the DoD would be in the steel fabricating business, or why contractors hired by the Port Authority of NY and NJ would order steel from them for a civilian project), and given a 490#/cu. ft. density for steel, a 20-footer weighed only ~480#, so they used fork trucks and miniature cranes to move it, even though it's so small that you can't see it in any construction photos. Please try to keep up, DC.

Since there is no other explanation for what is seen, you must be serving your masters needs to keep the methods of mass murder secret. Since there is no independently verified evidence for the steel core columns, you are exposed.

thats NOT rebar

Maybe you are injecting the crack.

You mean the core is empty and the only thing that can be seen is rebar. Because you have simply denied what it is, you can have no logical explanation for what it is if not rebar.

 

[DiveCon]

Lay off the crack pipe for a while.

Since there is no other explanation for what is seen, you must be serving your masters needs to keep the methods of mass murder secret. Since there is no independently verified evidence for the steel core columns, you are exposed.

thats NOT rebar

Maybe you are injecting the crack.

You mean the core is empty and the only thing that can be seen is rebar. Because you have simply denied what it is, you can have no logical explanation for what it is if not rebar.

except that isnt rebar
because of the angle and the distance away, it is hard to say WHAT it is exactly
but, it looks like its part of the outter shell that remained up for a period of time after the colapse

 

[Christophera]

thats NOT rebar

Maybe you are injecting the crack.

You mean the core is empty and the only thing that can be seen is rebar. Because you have simply denied what it is, you can have no logical explanation for what it is if not rebar.

except that isnt rebar
because of the angle and the distance away, it is hard to say WHAT it is exactly
but, it looks like its part of the outter shell that remained up for a period of time after the colapse

Do you really think that looks like 14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall connecting them at each floor?

I mean the perps would want you to say "yes", but no one will think you are reasonable.

 

[DiveCon]

Maybe you are injecting the crack.

You mean the core is empty and the only thing that can be seen is rebar. Because you have simply denied what it is, you can have no logical explanation for what it is if not rebar.

except that isnt rebar
because of the angle and the distance away, it is hard to say WHAT it is exactly
but, it looks like its part of the outter shell that remained up for a period of time after the colapse

Do you really think that looks like 14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall connecting them at each floor?

I mean the perps would want you to say "yes", but no one will think you are reasonable.

just who are these "perps" you are talking about?

 

[sitarro]

You are pretending to be reasonable in order to interfere with citizens seeking to see that the Constitution is secure. Any time you pretend, you are interefering. Interference is your intent.

If this is not true, you will post reasonable evidence, and construction photos are not reasonable because it has been shown a number of times that what they show is not constructed strong enough to stand as a core column. And the empty core proves it.

Under the transparent guise of being reasonable, you've just managed to avoid addressing every point I just made. Show some credible evidence of these alleged concrete walls in the cores, explain how explosives could separate them from the "3-inch rebar" while leaving the concrete itself relatively intact, or give it up.

Actually the thread asserts there were no steel core columns, ........... and no one has provided any independently verified evidence of the FEMA steel core.

I've shown concrete surrounding the core and no reasonable person with some experience in materials recognition could say otherwise. They could also say there are no steel columns in the core, or the core is empty.

The thread is not about explaining where the concrete went, it is about showing that the steel core columns never existed and that FEAM lied.

This is a steel reinforced cast concrete core,

And that is what L.E. Robertson identified on September 13, 2001.

There were no steel core columns. It is a lie used to diminish the force of the Constitution by sabotaging the analysis of the cause of death in a mass murder.

This guy must be a shill for the right wing conspiracy attempting to keep the real story from getting out, right?

NOVA | Building on Ground Zero | Impact to Collapse | PBS

launch the slide show, the link is bellow the first paragraph.

 

[DiveCon]

Under the transparent guise of being reasonable, you've just managed to avoid addressing every point I just made. Show some credible evidence of these alleged concrete walls in the cores, explain how explosives could separate them from the "3-inch rebar" while leaving the concrete itself relatively intact, or give it up.

Actually the thread asserts there were no steel core columns, ........... and no one has provided any independently verified evidence of the FEMA steel core.

I've shown concrete surrounding the core and no reasonable person with some experience in materials recognition could say otherwise. They could also say there are no steel columns in the core, or the core is empty.

The thread is not about explaining where the concrete went, it is about showing that the steel core columns never existed and that FEAM lied.

This is a steel reinforced cast concrete core,

And that is what L.E. Robertson identified on September 13, 2001.

There were no steel core columns. It is a lie used to diminish the force of the Constitution by sabotaging the analysis of the cause of death in a mass murder.

This guy must be a shill for the right wing conspiracy attempting to keep the real story from getting out, right?

NOVA | Building on Ground Zero | Impact to Collapse | PBS

launch the slide show, the link is bellow the first paragraph.

hey, its PBS
of course they are part of the conspiracy

 

[Albury Smith]

Maybe you are injecting the crack.

You mean the core is empty and the only thing that can be seen is rebar. Because you have simply denied what it is, you can have no logical explanation for what it is if not rebar.

except that isnt rebar
because of the angle and the distance away, it is hard to say WHAT it is exactly
but, it looks like its part of the outter shell that remained up for a period of time after the colapse

Do you really think that looks like 14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall connecting them at each floor?

I mean the perps would want you to say "yes", but no one will think you are reasonable.

"14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall [sic] connecting them at each floor" is a pretty good description of the towers' perimeter column framing. Were there invisible, reinforced concrete walls there too?

 

[DiveCon]

except that isnt rebar
because of the angle and the distance away, it is hard to say WHAT it is exactly
but, it looks like its part of the outter shell that remained up for a period of time after the colapse

Do you really think that looks like 14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall connecting them at each floor?

I mean the perps would want you to say "yes", but no one will think you are reasonable.

"14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall [sic] connecting them at each floor" is a pretty good description of the towers' perimeter column framing. Were there invisible, reinforced concrete walls there too?

it could also have been a pipe from the many water pipes in the building
from the distance and the angle its hard to say WHAT it was

 

[Christophera]

except that isnt rebar
because of the angle and the distance away, it is hard to say WHAT it is exactly
but, it looks like its part of the outter shell that remained up for a period of time after the colapse

Do you really think that looks like 14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall connecting them at each floor?

I mean the perps would want you to say "yes", but no one will think you are reasonable.

"14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall [sic] connecting them at each floor" is a pretty good description of the towers' perimeter column framing. Were there invisible, reinforced concrete walls there too?

Your refusing to read and instead misinterpret, then pretend you have made sense shows that you will be unreasonable on behalf of protecting the perpetrators secret means of mass murder.

Clearly lawful performance by government means nothing to you. Decent communications are not what you do. You are a manipulator acting on behalf of those who try to destroy the US Constitution and your utterly incompetent promotion of their secrecy makes your allegiance to its destruction clear

In the entire thread you have posted no competent evidence. There are generations that will have feelings like this, .... and be enraged by the intent of your deception.

 

[DiveCon]

Do you really think that looks like 14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall connecting them at each floor?

I mean the perps would want you to say "yes", but no one will think you are reasonable.

"14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall [sic] connecting them at each floor" is a pretty good description of the towers' perimeter column framing. Were there invisible, reinforced concrete walls there too?

Your refusing to read and instead misinterpret, then pretend you have made sense shows that you will be unreasonable on behalf of protecting the perpetrators secret means of mass murder.

Clearly lawful performance by government means nothing to you. Decent communications are not what you do. You are a manipulator acting on behalf of those who try to destroy the US Constitution and your utterly incompetent promotion of their secrecy makes your allegiance to its destruction clear

In the entire thread you have posted no competent evidence. There are generations that will have feelings like this, .... and be enraged by the intent of your deception.

ah yes, he is a government agent too

 

[Albury Smith]

Do you really think that looks like 14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall connecting them at each floor?

I mean the perps would want you to say "yes", but no one will think you are reasonable.

"14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall [sic] connecting them at each floor" is a pretty good description of the towers' perimeter column framing. Were there invisible, reinforced concrete walls there too?

Your refusing to read and instead misinterpret, then pretend you have made sense shows that you will be unreasonable on behalf of protecting the perpetrators secret means of mass murder.

Clearly lawful performance by government means nothing to you. Decent communications are not what you do. You are a manipulator acting on behalf of those who try to destroy the US Constitution and your utterly incompetent promotion of their secrecy makes your allegiance to its destruction clear

In the entire thread you have posted no competent evidence. There are generations that will have feelings like this, .... and be enraged by the intent of your deception.

Who are these "perpetrators," Chris, and are you ever going to post evidence to back up your absurd claims? I've shown you what NIST, FEMA, and the rest of the sane world understand to be the core construction, and nothing you've posted shows anything else.

 

[Christophera]

"14x14 inch box columns with 22 inch spacing and a spandrel plate horizontall [sic] connecting them at each floor" is a pretty good description of the towers' perimeter column framing. Were there invisible, reinforced concrete walls there too?

Your refusing to read and instead misinterpret, then pretend you have made sense shows that you will be unreasonable on behalf of protecting the perpetrators secret means of mass murder.

Clearly lawful performance by government means nothing to you. Decent communications are not what you do. You are a manipulator acting on behalf of those who try to destroy the US Constitution and your utterly incompetent promotion of their secrecy makes your allegiance to its destruction clear

In the entire thread you have posted no competent evidence. There are generations that will have feelings like this, .... and be enraged by the intent of your deception.

Who are these "perpetrators," Chris, and are you ever going to post evidence to back up your absurd claims? I've shown you what NIST, FEMA, and the rest of the sane world understand to be the core construction, and nothing you've posted shows anything else.

You've shown the lie the perpetrators want you to support. The one that hides the means of secret mass murder. The one that FEMA told to NIST. You've posted nothing, no evidence.

I've posted independently verified evidence establishing that the Tinw towers had a concrete tubular core. Here is some again. The concrete core wall end view, WTC 1 west wall.

Independently verified with this ground zero safety report of August Domel, Ph.d SE. PE. (He saw FEMA plans 2 weeks after 9-11 at ground zero). Then the lead engineer, Leslie Robertson on September 13, 2001 was interviewd by Newsweek.

BTW, it is irrational to try to name the perpetrators before you know what happened, or what it happened to.