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From the OP's rubric essay:
Two things:
In the days following the disturbing events in Charlottesville, VA, the Left has been desperate, apparently, to prove Donald Trump correct. He was using an argument which, in the discipline of logic, is called a reductio ad absurdum when he asked reporters who were defending the violence of Antifa, what would be next after the statue of Robert E. Lee; George Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson. After all, they were slave owners as well.
Two things:
- Would someone please show me instances of reporters, writing/speaking as a news reporter and not as an editorialist/commentator, defending Antifa?
Journalists wear at least two "hats: that of reporter and that of commentator/editorialist. As a reporter, journalists defend or chide no one; they merely tell what is. As a commentator, they may advocate for or rail against any number of people, places, and things, but in doing so they represent themselves, not anyone else. As consumers of journalism, we each are required to be able to tell the difference in which hat is being worn with regard to any given piece/statement a journalist releases. - Whether Trump was using the reductio ad absurdum technique is irrelevant because the problem with the statues isn't that the individuals depicted owned slaves, but rather that they were Confederates and the statues accord to them honor they do not -- having been Confederates, having been losers in an insurrection against the USA -- deserve. That those Confederates owned slaves and/or condoned and advocated for the maintenance of slavery is, AFAIC, secondary to why they should not by USA governmental institutions and organizations be honored with statues or fêted eponymously via publicly held bridges, buildings, parks, etc.
Because Trump opted to focus the thrust of his retort on an ancillary aspect of the opprobrium over the Confederate statuary, rhetorically he did not prevail via reductio ad absurdum, but rather floundered by way of ignoratio elenchi (missing the point -- arguing, poorly or well, against/for a claim that is not the relevant claim). Trump's rebuttal became ignoratio elenchi because he assumed that the honored individuals' status as former slaveholders is the basis of the primary objection to their being lionized in statuary form.
- Jefferson/Washington --> Not treasonous -> Slaveholders -->Did they attempt to advance/perpetuate slavery?
I know GW was keen to abjure slavery; I don't know about Jefferson. I know Madison preferred keeping the races physically separate, ideally in distinct nations, but he didn't advocate slavery. I'd have to check for the rest of the founders. - Davis/Lee --> Treasonous --> Confederate --> Known advocates of slavery --> Slaveholders
- Jefferson/Washington --> Not treasonous -> Slaveholders -->Did they attempt to advance/perpetuate slavery?