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Trump needs to get a grip on reality. If Trump wants to MAGA, he's going to have to let us remain in a leadership position in the world. Right now he is backpedaling out of every leadership role he sees.Trump does it again. He's standing up to the international community and doing what's best for America.
Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Paris, TPP, NAFTA, now the UN? If we aren't in front, if we aren't the country others rely on for funding, guess what? Another country will do that--it will be Russia or China; they'll be happy to take over.
In the long run, though, if they take over the leadership positions in the world, we won't be able to swagger around saying "fuck you" quite so much as we do right now.
So Trump might want to watch out.
the ONLY 'people' who are offended are the muzzies
Many Muslims are key strategic allies. Turkey, Iraq and Saudi Arabia are all outraged at the move, with Turkey calling this move a 'red-line'. These are key allies that host our military forces, offer us oil, or both.
We've obliterated our influence in the peace process, with the Palestinians refusing to even take our calls now and starkly rejecting the US as a neutral moderator.
Worse still, in the vaccum of influence and leadership left by our move, Russia has taken the lead in proposed Mid East peace talks. We've expanded the influence of our rivals, infuriated our allies, and are now threatening the entire UN and each member state individually in exchange for....
......nothing. How is that 'America First'?
You really wanna cast your lot with the Saudis and Turks? The Saudis carried out the 9/11 attacks for God's sake. And both countries funded & armed ISIS in Syria. You may wanna rethink your position on this one. Just a suggestion anyway.
We already have. The Saudi's are one of our closest regional allies. We use Turkish military bases. Our partnership with Saudi Arabia goes back to WW2. Israel in contrast offers us neither military support, use of their bases, nor a significant amount of oil. To the contrary, they've cost us $40,000,000,000 in the last decade.
Attacks by citizens of a nation aren't attacks by the government of that nation. We were attacked by a pair of Americans in Oklahoma city. By your logic, we should be bombing Washington because Tim McVeigh detonated a bomb that killed Americans.
We've enraged key strategic allies, increased the influence of rivals like Russia, destroyed our own credibility in the peace process, and have been reduced to threatening other countries over this issue in exchange for nothing.
How is this America First?
Yeah, you really should reconsider being so all-in with the Saudis and Turks. They're not good folks. I'm actually ashamed that my Government considers them 'Close Allies.'
So abandoning our closest regional allies that provide us with *actual* use of their military bases and oil we desperately need is 'America First'?
Because you certainly can't tell me why Jerusalem being recognized as the capital of Israel is 'America First'.
You're in excellent company on that. I can't tell you why either. It makes no sense. It enrages our allies, emboldens our enemies, increases the influence of our rivals destroys our credibility...in exchange for nothing. Then to follow that up with *threats* to the UN and individual member nations on this same stupid blunder?
That's doubling down on stupid.
They certainly do. He should have added that East Jerusalem could be the capital of Palestine state... That would really get things moving.Might as well, as the U.S. is no longer in a leadership role for the free world.Trump does it again. He's standing up to the international community and doing what's best for America.
Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
how so, isn't leading about moving things forward, not asking for permission?
We did the right thing, everyone will come around, change is tough for some people.
Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, does anyone dispute this?
He didn't mention it...so it's still there, but the Palestinians have to do more than whine. Isreal has given almost every concession they wanted and in some deal all their concessions, but they never find a way to finish...something tells me they don't want to...which is why we need to move forward and let them know we're not dicking around.....it's why I like Trumps take on Jerusalem and the implied threat during this UN Vote.....letting people know we scratch your back, now it's time for you to scratch ours.......
You guys in the US just don't get it.....
Did the Jews have the right in Israel/Palestine yes so does the Muslims and the Christians. The problem is the Zionists wanted more than their entitled to, and occupied Palestinian Lands, pushed them out and killed scores of them. Till now there are refugee camps of those people and Israel refuses their return because they will not only outnumber the Israelis but Also Will ask for their lands and houses back.
If you ever go to Israel you'll notice that most of Israelis are immigrants or descendants of immigrants, some are purely European/American looking.
What makes matters more complicated, Jerusalem is a sacred land for the Muslims as well.....So if the Palestinians gave up their right, 1.5 billions Muslims won't. The current state of the Islamic world plays in favor of Israel, if i was them i would settle as fast as I can. Cause things do turn around and few years down the line they might not even be offered much to be honest.
The whole world just voided Trumps decision except few micro countries. Thr US is losing ground and fast, we shouldnt be siding with an appartheid state.And the US to the natives?You guys in the US just don't get it.....
Did the Jews have the right in Israel/Palestine yes so does the Muslims and the Christians. The problem is the Zionists wanted more than their entitled to, and occupied Palestinian Lands, pushed them out and killed scores of them. Till now there are refugee camps of those people and Israel refuses their return because they will not only outnumber the Israelis but Also Will ask for their lands and houses back.
If you ever go to Israel you'll notice that most of Israelis are immigrants or descendants of immigrants, some are purely European/American looking.
What makes matters more complicated, Jerusalem is a sacred land for the Muslims as well.....So if the Palestinians gave up their right, 1.5 billions Muslims won't. The current state of the Islamic world plays in favor of Israel, if i was them i would settle as fast as I can. Cause things do turn around and few years down the line they might not even be offered much to be honest.
Muslims have no rights whatsoever in PALESTINE-----they should be completely banned. The city called MEDINA should be handed BACK TO THE JEWS and
millions of jews FULLY COMPENSATED for lands and wealth and LIVES stolen
from them by the PIGS AND DOGS OF that which are called "Islamic lands" today. --------1.5 billion muzzie pigs and dogs have "rights" in Palestine?
You are delusional. FOR THE RECORD------I am supposed to own oil wells in
a land that is NOW A SHARIAH SHIT HOLE
well, that's a tad extreme, but Istanbul and Acre should be handed back to the Christians if we're playing the who was first game.
yep, that's my point, it aint gonna happen, why? because people take over all the time.....the world said Israel would be where it was historically and they made it happen. Just have to deal with it.
Ya just ignore every fucking measurable stat right. If you can not see the correlation there is not much hope for you! So how do you propose we measure it then.Fucking stupid in cleveland.We rank 25th in life expectancy compared to other nations of the world. 27th in infant mortality rate. We have the infant mortality rate of Lebenon. Dead last in industrialized nations for mortality amenable to medical care. These are the three most used measures of Health care. It was an embarrasment on all standards except for vaccination. We pay three times more for a worse out come. This is with out the cost of medical bankruptcy calcualted in. We are the only industialized nation in which getting sick can send you into bankruptcy.do tell?Problem is our health cares return on investment is more like that of the Ford Focus than the Ferrari.So our Healthcare is not ridiculously overpriced and prices have gone up faster since Obama Care? Read something.
So you completely ignored my question and you commies are always on price. So I guess a Ferrari should cost the same as a Ford Focus.....you guys are total dupes.
We can take you more seriously if you can provide evidence that our life expectancy or infant mortality rate is directly related to our healthcare.
We have the most people die in car accidents than just about any other country. People are murdering each other all the time, and in most cases, younger people with drug problems. Speaking of drug problems, our infant mortality rate is affected by recreational narcotics as well as women working too long into pregnancy or not getting care because of work. Plus we are the fattest country in the world so that is certainly no help.
Many Muslims are key strategic allies. Turkey, Iraq and Saudi Arabia are all outraged at the move, with Turkey calling this move a 'red-line'. These are key allies that host our military forces, offer us oil, or both.
We've obliterated our influence in the peace process, with the Palestinians refusing to even take our calls now and starkly rejecting the US as a neutral moderator.
Worse still, in the vaccum of influence and leadership left by our move, Russia has taken the lead in proposed Mid East peace talks. We've expanded the influence of our rivals, infuriated our allies, and are now threatening the entire UN and each member state individually in exchange for....
......nothing. How is that 'America First'?
You really wanna cast your lot with the Saudis and Turks? The Saudis carried out the 9/11 attacks for God's sake. And both countries funded & armed ISIS in Syria. You may wanna rethink your position on this one. Just a suggestion anyway.
We already have. The Saudi's are one of our closest regional allies. We use Turkish military bases. Our partnership with Saudi Arabia goes back to WW2. Israel in contrast offers us neither military support, use of their bases, nor a significant amount of oil. To the contrary, they've cost us $40,000,000,000 in the last decade.
Attacks by citizens of a nation aren't attacks by the government of that nation. We were attacked by a pair of Americans in Oklahoma city. By your logic, we should be bombing Washington because Tim McVeigh detonated a bomb that killed Americans.
We've enraged key strategic allies, increased the influence of rivals like Russia, destroyed our own credibility in the peace process, and have been reduced to threatening other countries over this issue in exchange for nothing.
How is this America First?
Yeah, you really should reconsider being so all-in with the Saudis and Turks. They're not good folks. I'm actually ashamed that my Government considers them 'Close Allies.'
So abandoning our closest regional allies that provide us with *actual* use of their military bases and oil we desperately need is 'America First'?
Because you certainly can't tell me why Jerusalem being recognized as the capital of Israel is 'America First'.
You're in excellent company on that. I can't tell you why either. It makes no sense. It enrages our allies, emboldens our enemies, increases the influence of our rivals destroys our credibility...in exchange for nothing. Then to follow that up with *threats* to the UN and individual member nations on this same stupid blunder?
That's doubling down on stupid.
Do some real research, i'm sure your worship of the Saudis and Turks will lessen dramatically. We should all be ashamed our Government designates them 'Close Allies.'
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, in a news conference with his Saudi counterpart, described common views on counterterrorism, the threat from Iran and regional security. He outlined “like-minded” goals in the security and economic spheres and said, “We’re very proud of this relationship that we are embarking on with the kingdom.”
Trump signs ‘tremendous’ deals with Saudi Arabia on his first day overseas
Imagine that socialist countries that don’t pay their fair share, very typical. Always running out of other peoples moneyNow? I don't know... Germany maybe? Doesn't matter, as Russia and Asia are now the leaders of the world, free or unfree.And just who is leading old fool?Might as well, as the U.S. is no longer in a leadership role for the free world.Trump does it again. He's standing up to the international community and doing what's best for America.
Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
LOLTime to stop. Trump sheep hate the UN anyways. Isn't it about time for history to repeat itself?Might as well, as the U.S. is no longer in a leadership role for the free world.Trump does it again. He's standing up to the international community and doing what's best for America.
Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Bahahaha ha ha..
You do know we pay the most money to the UN right?
Can any one sat league of nation's ?
Actually the plight of the Palestinians is always number one in Muslim outrage, always accompanied by American blind Alliance with the Israeli right wing...They certainly do. He should have added that East Jerusalem could be the capital of Palestine state... That would really get things moving.Might as well, as the U.S. is no longer in a leadership role for the free world.
how so, isn't leading about moving things forward, not asking for permission?
We did the right thing, everyone will come around, change is tough for some people.
Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, does anyone dispute this?
He didn't mention it...so it's still there, but the Palestinians have to do more than whine. Isreal has given almost every concession they wanted and in some deal all their concessions, but they never find a way to finish...something tells me they don't want to...which is why we need to move forward and let them know we're not dicking around.....it's why I like Trumps take on Jerusalem and the implied threat during this UN Vote.....letting people know we scratch your back, now it's time for you to scratch ours.......
You guys in the US just don't get it.....
Did the Jews have the right in Israel/Palestine yes so does the Muslims and the Christians. The problem is the Zionists wanted more than their entitled to, and occupied Palestinian Lands, pushed them out and killed scores of them. Till now there are refugee camps of those people and Israel refuses their return because they will not only outnumber the Israelis but Also Will ask for their lands and houses back.
If you ever go to Israel you'll notice that most of Israelis are immigrants or descendants of immigrants, some are purely European/American looking.
What makes matters more complicated, Jerusalem is a sacred land for the Muslims as well.....So if the Palestinians gave up their right, 1.5 billions Muslims won't. The current state of the Islamic world plays in favor of Israel, if i was them i would settle as fast as I can. Cause things do turn around and few years down the line they might not even be offered much to be honest.
What happened to Mecca and Medina?
The problem is that most of the world's Muslims could give a shit about the Palestinians who are the trash of the Muslim world.
You really wanna cast your lot with the Saudis and Turks? The Saudis carried out the 9/11 attacks for God's sake. And both countries funded & armed ISIS in Syria. You may wanna rethink your position on this one. Just a suggestion anyway.
We already have. The Saudi's are one of our closest regional allies. We use Turkish military bases. Our partnership with Saudi Arabia goes back to WW2. Israel in contrast offers us neither military support, use of their bases, nor a significant amount of oil. To the contrary, they've cost us $40,000,000,000 in the last decade.
Attacks by citizens of a nation aren't attacks by the government of that nation. We were attacked by a pair of Americans in Oklahoma city. By your logic, we should be bombing Washington because Tim McVeigh detonated a bomb that killed Americans.
We've enraged key strategic allies, increased the influence of rivals like Russia, destroyed our own credibility in the peace process, and have been reduced to threatening other countries over this issue in exchange for nothing.
How is this America First?
Yeah, you really should reconsider being so all-in with the Saudis and Turks. They're not good folks. I'm actually ashamed that my Government considers them 'Close Allies.'
So abandoning our closest regional allies that provide us with *actual* use of their military bases and oil we desperately need is 'America First'?
Because you certainly can't tell me why Jerusalem being recognized as the capital of Israel is 'America First'.
You're in excellent company on that. I can't tell you why either. It makes no sense. It enrages our allies, emboldens our enemies, increases the influence of our rivals destroys our credibility...in exchange for nothing. Then to follow that up with *threats* to the UN and individual member nations on this same stupid blunder?
That's doubling down on stupid.
Do some real research, i'm sure your worship of the Saudis and Turks will lessen dramatically. We should all be ashamed our Government designates them 'Close Allies.'
I've done the research, as has ever president since WW2. There is a reason why they are our closest regional allies even under Trump. They've hosted him as recently as May. The Tillerson State Department has lavished praise upon them:
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, in a news conference with his Saudi counterpart, described common views on counterterrorism, the threat from Iran and regional security. He outlined “like-minded” goals in the security and economic spheres and said, “We’re very proud of this relationship that we are embarking on with the kingdom.”
Trump signs ‘tremendous’ deals with Saudi Arabia on his first day overseas
How is enraging them, emboldening our enemies, destroying our credibility in the region and increasing the influence of our rivals an 'America First' policy? And why follow all those costs in exchange for nothing.....with *threats* against the UN and member countries over the same issue?
What's in it for us?
A good deal that Trump is doing it seems, would be helpful if this article said what they're supposed to be paid also....Imagine that socialist countries that don’t pay their fair share, very typical. Always running out of other peoples moneyNow? I don't know... Germany maybe? Doesn't matter, as Russia and Asia are now the leaders of the world, free or unfree.And just who is leading old fool?Might as well, as the U.S. is no longer in a leadership role for the free world.Trump does it again. He's standing up to the international community and doing what's best for America.
Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Here's who is paying the agreed-upon share to NATO — and who isn't
We already have. The Saudi's are one of our closest regional allies. We use Turkish military bases. Our partnership with Saudi Arabia goes back to WW2. Israel in contrast offers us neither military support, use of their bases, nor a significant amount of oil. To the contrary, they've cost us $40,000,000,000 in the last decade.
Attacks by citizens of a nation aren't attacks by the government of that nation. We were attacked by a pair of Americans in Oklahoma city. By your logic, we should be bombing Washington because Tim McVeigh detonated a bomb that killed Americans.
We've enraged key strategic allies, increased the influence of rivals like Russia, destroyed our own credibility in the peace process, and have been reduced to threatening other countries over this issue in exchange for nothing.
How is this America First?
Yeah, you really should reconsider being so all-in with the Saudis and Turks. They're not good folks. I'm actually ashamed that my Government considers them 'Close Allies.'
So abandoning our closest regional allies that provide us with *actual* use of their military bases and oil we desperately need is 'America First'?
Because you certainly can't tell me why Jerusalem being recognized as the capital of Israel is 'America First'.
You're in excellent company on that. I can't tell you why either. It makes no sense. It enrages our allies, emboldens our enemies, increases the influence of our rivals destroys our credibility...in exchange for nothing. Then to follow that up with *threats* to the UN and individual member nations on this same stupid blunder?
That's doubling down on stupid.
Do some real research, i'm sure your worship of the Saudis and Turks will lessen dramatically. We should all be ashamed our Government designates them 'Close Allies.'
I've done the research, as has ever president since WW2. There is a reason why they are our closest regional allies even under Trump. They've hosted him as recently as May. The Tillerson State Department has lavished praise upon them:
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, in a news conference with his Saudi counterpart, described common views on counterterrorism, the threat from Iran and regional security. He outlined “like-minded” goals in the security and economic spheres and said, “We’re very proud of this relationship that we are embarking on with the kingdom.”
Trump signs ‘tremendous’ deals with Saudi Arabia on his first day overseas
How is enraging them, emboldening our enemies, destroying our credibility in the region and increasing the influence of our rivals an 'America First' policy? And why follow all those costs in exchange for nothing.....with *threats* against the UN and member countries over the same issue?
What's in it for us?
The Saudis and Turks represent pure evil. We should not consider them 'Close Allies.' Period, end of story.
Yeah, you really should reconsider being so all-in with the Saudis and Turks. They're not good folks. I'm actually ashamed that my Government considers them 'Close Allies.'
So abandoning our closest regional allies that provide us with *actual* use of their military bases and oil we desperately need is 'America First'?
Because you certainly can't tell me why Jerusalem being recognized as the capital of Israel is 'America First'.
You're in excellent company on that. I can't tell you why either. It makes no sense. It enrages our allies, emboldens our enemies, increases the influence of our rivals destroys our credibility...in exchange for nothing. Then to follow that up with *threats* to the UN and individual member nations on this same stupid blunder?
That's doubling down on stupid.
Do some real research, i'm sure your worship of the Saudis and Turks will lessen dramatically. We should all be ashamed our Government designates them 'Close Allies.'
I've done the research, as has ever president since WW2. There is a reason why they are our closest regional allies even under Trump. They've hosted him as recently as May. The Tillerson State Department has lavished praise upon them:
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, in a news conference with his Saudi counterpart, described common views on counterterrorism, the threat from Iran and regional security. He outlined “like-minded” goals in the security and economic spheres and said, “We’re very proud of this relationship that we are embarking on with the kingdom.”
Trump signs ‘tremendous’ deals with Saudi Arabia on his first day overseas
How is enraging them, emboldening our enemies, destroying our credibility in the region and increasing the influence of our rivals an 'America First' policy? And why follow all those costs in exchange for nothing.....with *threats* against the UN and member countries over the same issue?
What's in it for us?
The Saudis and Turks represent pure evil. We should not consider them 'Close Allies.' Period, end of story.
We do consider them close allies as they provide us with vital strategic resources and facilities for our military to work out of. Even Trump gushes about them.
How would abandoning our closest regional allies benefit us? How is recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel an 'America First' policy? How does it benefit us? Because the costs are rather obvious.
Ya just ignore every fucking measurable stat right. If you can not see the correlation there is not much hope for you! So how do you propose we measure it then.Fucking stupid in cleveland.We rank 25th in life expectancy compared to other nations of the world. 27th in infant mortality rate. We have the infant mortality rate of Lebenon. Dead last in industrialized nations for mortality amenable to medical care. These are the three most used measures of Health care. It was an embarrasment on all standards except for vaccination. We pay three times more for a worse out come. This is with out the cost of medical bankruptcy calcualted in. We are the only industialized nation in which getting sick can send you into bankruptcy.do tell?Problem is our health cares return on investment is more like that of the Ford Focus than the Ferrari.So you completely ignored my question and you commies are always on price. So I guess a Ferrari should cost the same as a Ford Focus.....you guys are total dupes.
We can take you more seriously if you can provide evidence that our life expectancy or infant mortality rate is directly related to our healthcare.
We have the most people die in car accidents than just about any other country. People are murdering each other all the time, and in most cases, younger people with drug problems. Speaking of drug problems, our infant mortality rate is affected by recreational narcotics as well as women working too long into pregnancy or not getting care because of work. Plus we are the fattest country in the world so that is certainly no help.
You ignore every measurable statistic but I relate as an 11 year old? What the fuck criterian do you use?Ya just ignore every fucking measurable stat right. If you can not see the correlation there is not much hope for you! So how do you propose we measure it then.Fucking stupid in cleveland.We rank 25th in life expectancy compared to other nations of the world. 27th in infant mortality rate. We have the infant mortality rate of Lebenon. Dead last in industrialized nations for mortality amenable to medical care. These are the three most used measures of Health care. It was an embarrasment on all standards except for vaccination. We pay three times more for a worse out come. This is with out the cost of medical bankruptcy calcualted in. We are the only industialized nation in which getting sick can send you into bankruptcy.do tell?Problem is our health cares return on investment is more like that of the Ford Focus than the Ferrari.
We can take you more seriously if you can provide evidence that our life expectancy or infant mortality rate is directly related to our healthcare.
We have the most people die in car accidents than just about any other country. People are murdering each other all the time, and in most cases, younger people with drug problems. Speaking of drug problems, our infant mortality rate is affected by recreational narcotics as well as women working too long into pregnancy or not getting care because of work. Plus we are the fattest country in the world so that is certainly no help.
Ah yes, an insulting liberal, how unusual.
You know, I won't mind discussing the issue if you can relate in any other way than an 11 year old. If you can't, don't respond, I'll understand it's beyond your ability.
You ignore every measurable statistic but I relate as an 11 year old? What the fuck criterian do you use?Ya just ignore every fucking measurable stat right. If you can not see the correlation there is not much hope for you! So how do you propose we measure it then.Fucking stupid in cleveland.We rank 25th in life expectancy compared to other nations of the world. 27th in infant mortality rate. We have the infant mortality rate of Lebenon. Dead last in industrialized nations for mortality amenable to medical care. These are the three most used measures of Health care. It was an embarrasment on all standards except for vaccination. We pay three times more for a worse out come. This is with out the cost of medical bankruptcy calcualted in. We are the only industialized nation in which getting sick can send you into bankruptcy.do tell?
We can take you more seriously if you can provide evidence that our life expectancy or infant mortality rate is directly related to our healthcare.
We have the most people die in car accidents than just about any other country. People are murdering each other all the time, and in most cases, younger people with drug problems. Speaking of drug problems, our infant mortality rate is affected by recreational narcotics as well as women working too long into pregnancy or not getting care because of work. Plus we are the fattest country in the world so that is certainly no help.
Ah yes, an insulting liberal, how unusual.
You know, I won't mind discussing the issue if you can relate in any other way than an 11 year old. If you can't, don't respond, I'll understand it's beyond your ability.
She hangs them from the bedpost hoping to entice Bill to come home.so what does she do with them? play a few sports?probably softballs or bowling balls.are they the size of base balls?she has themwe will never know until someone asks Humaeven her.
You ignore every measurable statistic but I relate as an 11 year old? What the fuck criterian do you use?Ya just ignore every fucking measurable stat right. If you can not see the correlation there is not much hope for you! So how do you propose we measure it then.Fucking stupid in cleveland.We rank 25th in life expectancy compared to other nations of the world. 27th in infant mortality rate. We have the infant mortality rate of Lebenon. Dead last in industrialized nations for mortality amenable to medical care. These are the three most used measures of Health care. It was an embarrasment on all standards except for vaccination. We pay three times more for a worse out come. This is with out the cost of medical bankruptcy calcualted in. We are the only industialized nation in which getting sick can send you into bankruptcy.do tell?
We can take you more seriously if you can provide evidence that our life expectancy or infant mortality rate is directly related to our healthcare.
We have the most people die in car accidents than just about any other country. People are murdering each other all the time, and in most cases, younger people with drug problems. Speaking of drug problems, our infant mortality rate is affected by recreational narcotics as well as women working too long into pregnancy or not getting care because of work. Plus we are the fattest country in the world so that is certainly no help.
Ah yes, an insulting liberal, how unusual.
You know, I won't mind discussing the issue if you can relate in any other way than an 11 year old. If you can't, don't respond, I'll understand it's beyond your ability.
