evenflow1969
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I have seen manny of your posts there fucking stupid in cleveland where you are as insulting as I am. You still want to ignore the most measurable stas to indicate the success or failure iof health care. Are there other variables yes. The same variuables effect other countries. I again must ask what criterian should we use , I guess it is the best just because you say so. Did I mention we ranked nearly dead last in every measurable catagory. So yer you do ignore all relevant data in this situation. It would be much easier to take you seriously if you did not do this. SO go fuck your self and your logic. When you start basing decissions on measurable data I will become less insultingYou ignore every measurable statistic but I relate as an 11 year old? What the fuck criterian do you use?Ya just ignore every fucking measurable stat right. If you can not see the correlation there is not much hope for you! So how do you propose we measure it then.Fucking stupid in cleveland.We rank 25th in life expectancy compared to other nations of the world. 27th in infant mortality rate. We have the infant mortality rate of Lebenon. Dead last in industrialized nations for mortality amenable to medical care. These are the three most used measures of Health care. It was an embarrasment on all standards except for vaccination. We pay three times more for a worse out come. This is with out the cost of medical bankruptcy calcualted in. We are the only industialized nation in which getting sick can send you into bankruptcy.
We can take you more seriously if you can provide evidence that our life expectancy or infant mortality rate is directly related to our healthcare.
We have the most people die in car accidents than just about any other country. People are murdering each other all the time, and in most cases, younger people with drug problems. Speaking of drug problems, our infant mortality rate is affected by recreational narcotics as well as women working too long into pregnancy or not getting care because of work. Plus we are the fattest country in the world so that is certainly no help.
Ah yes, an insulting liberal, how unusual.
You know, I won't mind discussing the issue if you can relate in any other way than an 11 year old. If you can't, don't respond, I'll understand it's beyond your ability.
Yes, when you use personal insults on somebody you never even had a discussion with unprovoked, that's acting like an 11 year old.
Now as for statistics, I'm not ignoring anything. Where did I say they were wrong or irrelevant?
My point is not everything is related to healthcare. We take terrible care of ourselves, we are overweight, we lose a lot of younger people to violence. All this plays into the concerns you listed especially with our life exectancy which has been on the increase for the last couple of years.
So you can institute any healthcare system you desire be it private or government, and it won't change things very much. The best healthcare in the world won't stop on shooting, one drug overdose (which is now over 50,000 a year) or one skinny person from getting fat.
Our healthcare system is the best in the entire world, the problem we have is not everybody has access to it.
"According to the new report, Born Too Soon: The Global Action Report on Preterm Birth, twelve in every 100 babies born in the U.S. are premature. Belarus has the lowest preterm birth rate in the world (4.1 in 100) while Malawi has the highest (18 in 100).
More than a million premature babies die each year. It’s the No. 1 cause of death among newborns. And it’s a major health concern because babies born prematurely can have breathing problems, cerebral palsy and intellectual disabilities.
Howson says it’s largely because women are having babies later in life, the increased use of fertility drugs and more C-sections and inductions.
Another thing at play, says Howson, is the lack of care some women – in particular minorities – get during pregnancy. For example, if diabetes is diagnosed early, it can be treated more successfully. That, according to Howson, doesn’t happen enough."
Study: More Premature Babies in U.S. vs. Many Developing Countries
France has the the best ratings of the countries listed. No stat measures every out side variable. We use the most meaningfull stats to make educated decisions. What dumb fuck in cleveland is doing is throwing out the best evidence, and I have no fucking time or use for this kind of stupidity. You look up an NFL team and see that their passing statistics are the worst in the NFL. Thier rushing stats are worst in the NFL. Their rush defense is the worst in the NFL. Their pass defense is the worst in the NFL. This team is not going to the play offs.Arte there other factors yes, if you have a brain you will not ignore these factors when placing a bet.But by dumb fuck in Clevelands logic they are the super bowl winner. So either this guy is purely delusional or so partisan it is rediculous. Either way if he uses the same modus operandi in the rest of his life. I will come out of retirement and take all of his sports book. We can even chat about adjusting the spread in certain situations to get his money in my betting pool.You ignore every measurable statistic but I relate as an 11 year old? What the fuck criterian do you use?Ya just ignore every fucking measurable stat right. If you can not see the correlation there is not much hope for you! So how do you propose we measure it then.Fucking stupid in cleveland.We rank 25th in life expectancy compared to other nations of the world. 27th in infant mortality rate. We have the infant mortality rate of Lebenon. Dead last in industrialized nations for mortality amenable to medical care. These are the three most used measures of Health care. It was an embarrasment on all standards except for vaccination. We pay three times more for a worse out come. This is with out the cost of medical bankruptcy calcualted in. We are the only industialized nation in which getting sick can send you into bankruptcy.
We can take you more seriously if you can provide evidence that our life expectancy or infant mortality rate is directly related to our healthcare.
We have the most people die in car accidents than just about any other country. People are murdering each other all the time, and in most cases, younger people with drug problems. Speaking of drug problems, our infant mortality rate is affected by recreational narcotics as well as women working too long into pregnancy or not getting care because of work. Plus we are the fattest country in the world so that is certainly no help.
Ah yes, an insulting liberal, how unusual.
You know, I won't mind discussing the issue if you can relate in any other way than an 11 year old. If you can't, don't respond, I'll understand it's beyond your ability.
I think he's saying that those stats are misleading, since there are many other factors at play.
Basically when you have serious health issues, where would you go?
France? Britain? Saudi Arabia? Oman?
PS. buckeye45 are you aka Fat Jimmy?