Floridians not happy to see DeSantis.

[Marener]

agreed, but we aren't talking about that here...we are talking about a special tax status.

Of course it is. We are talking about Florida giving benefits to people based on their expressed viewpoints. That's viewpoint discrimination.

 

[struth]

Of course it is. We are talking about Florida giving benefits to people based on their expressed viewpoints. That's viewpoint discrimination.

who did FL give benefits to based on their expressed viewpoints? and how is it discrimination to give them benefits? and what benefits were those?

And since when was Govt not allowed to do that? Govt gives benefits to folks based on their viewpoints all the time....here the Xiden admin is bragging about giving billions to a group based on their expressed viewpoint: Biden-Harris Administration Announces Nearly $3 Billion in Project Selections to Help Communities Build Resilience to Climate Change and Extreme Weather Events

We've come a long way from you claiming you opposed Govt actually censoring people political views....

 

[Marener]

who did FL give benefits to based on their expressed viewpoints?

Taking away benefits based on expressed viewpoints is the same thing as giving benefits based on expressed viewpoints.

It's viewpoint discrimination either way.

 

[The Duke]

I don't think DeSantis nor his rhetoric had any influence at all on this moron


He would think of DeSantis as a normie, RINO, weak, etc....no matter how much DeSantis throws him red meat.....


This shooter is motivated by the Jack Posobiecs, Charlie Kirks, and Nick Fuentes (the guy Trump had lunch with) -- the people who are willing to blow dog bullhorns, not whistles...they are called accelerationists -- they don't care about policies or anything, just random acts of terror; knowing they have a right-wing media who will defend them to the end.

The shooter was a pedo faggot. Not a Republican.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

agreed, but we aren't talking about that here...we are talking about a special tax status. You have no right, let a long a first amendment right to a special tax exemption status

As in your example, religious organizations do have that right (IRS section 501c), until they fuck it up for taking advantage of their exemption (just like the example you provided).

 

[struth]

Taking away benefits based on expressed viewpoints is the same thing as giving benefits based on expressed viewpoints.

It's viewpoint discrimination either way.

Cool and the state can do that when it comes to tax breaks

 

[struth]

As in your example, religious organizations do have that right (IRS section 501c), until they fuck it up for taking advantage of their exemption (just like the example you provided).

Correct, the state can rejected tax status for viewpoints posted

Just like Fl did with Disney

 

[Marener]

Cool and the state can do that when it comes to tax breaks

False. The state cannot do that with any special privilege. There are no circumstances that allow the state to violate the first amendment.

 

[struth]

False. The state cannot do that with any special privilege. There are no circumstances that allow the state to violate the first amendment.

The state didn’t violate the first amendment when it took away a special tax status

A tax status is not protected by the first amendment

 

[Marener]

The state didn’t violate the first amendment when it took away a special tax status

A tax status is not protected by the first amendment

If it took away special tax status because of their expressed viewpoints, it is a violation of the first amendment.

Treating people differently based on viewpoint is called viewpoint discrimination.

And that’s exactly what they did.

 

[struth]

If it took away special tax status because of their expressed viewpoints, it is a violation of the first amendment.

Treating people differently based on viewpoint is called viewpoint discrimination.

And that’s exactly what they did.

You keep saying that but you have no first amendment right to a special tax status

Yes you can’t censor someone’s speech based on their viewpoint…because we have a first amendment right to free speech…we don’t to a tax status

You fail bigly here

This is why the Fl law was upheld and xiden’s ministry of truth got smacked down in court

 

[Marener]

You keep saying that but you have no first amendment right to a special tax status

Yes you can’t censor someone’s speech based on their viewpoint…because we have a first amendment right to free speech…we don’t to a tax status

You fail bigly here

This is why the Fl law was upheld and xiden’s ministry of truth got smacked down in court

If the government can give special benefits to those who speak the way they want, then the first amendment doesn’t actually mean anything.

It’s not about whether you have a right to a special tax status. It’s about your right to not be discriminated against because of how you speak.

Disney sued DeSantis in April and the issue has yet to be adjudicated.

 

[struth]

If the government can give special benefits to those who speak the way they want, then the first amendment doesn’t actually mean anything.

It’s not about whether you have a right to a special tax status. It’s about your right to not be discriminated against because of how you speak.

Disney sued DeSantis in April and the issue has yet to be adjudicated.

Sure it does. It means the govt can’t censor speech like your demafasict xiden admin was doing

The first amendment doesn’t mean you get a special tax status…and have a right to it

Of course people can be discrimated against for how they speak…just because you have the right to say something doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences from saying those things

You are either really stupid or just bending over backwards to deflect from the real first amendment violations of xiden and the demafasict ministry of truth to suppress and censor political speech

 

[Zincwarrior]

Another hurricane, and a chance to wear his white booties again.

 

[Marener]

Of course people can be discrimated against for how they speak…just because you have the right to say something doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences from saying those things

Maybe in your personal life, but not when it comes to the government.

The government is not allowed to discriminate against viewpoints because doing so is a violation of the first amendment.

The first amendment means the government treat you differently than other people because of how you exercise your speech.

 

[22lcidw]

Maybe in your personal life, but not when it comes to the government.

The government is not allowed to discriminate against viewpoints because doing so is a violation of the first amendment.

The first amendment means the government treat you differently than other people because of how you exercise your speech.

Then you add the taxes. Oh, the taxes. They increase this way and that way. Incrementally and at time as a huge increase shock. most people do not realize inflation is a tax. And it is a designed tax many times. Politicians know this. History is full of this. An example is pieces of eight coins. Many more if you look it up. The Fiat currency we have has actually slowed real growth in our nation the last forty years or more.

 

[struth]

Maybe in your personal life, but not when it comes to the government.

The government is not allowed to discriminate against viewpoints because doing so is a violation of the first amendment.

The first amendment means the government treat you differently than other people because of how you exercise your speech.

Hahah it’s true the Govt can’t ban speech based on content or viewpoint

Fl didn’t do that…Disney is free to engage and has engaged in their speech

xiden admin however did censor particular viewpoints the court found

 

[CowboyTed]

Wow picking a fight with a Fortune 500 company is a fascism now…I see the education system failed you

Nothing to do with Disney.

Read this:

Gov. Ron DeSantis accuses Democrats of trying to 'smear' him over neo-Nazi rally in Orlando

Gov. Ron DeSantis' press secretary Christina Pushaw drew attention for a tweet that questioned whether a neo-Nazi rally in Orlando was staged.

eu.heraldtribune.com

 

[Marener]

Fl didn’t do that…Disney is free to engage and has engaged in their speech

Florida punished Disney for expressing their speech. That’s not freedom.

The government isn’t allowed to discriminate based on viewpoint. That’s what Florida did to Disney.

 

[Kondor3]

As floridians they are all supposed to be "his people".

Oh, indeed they are, in one sense... but not in the sense or framework of those who voted for him in large numbers, yes?

Which, of course, is the 'sense' or 'framework' (context) in which I served-up my earlier remark on the subject...