For you "suckers and loser's" critics, Stolen valor is far far worse

[kyzr]

Facts

Walz bailed on his men. Several were interviewed, including the guy who took his place.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Are you talking outta yer ass again, ShortBus?

 

[kyzr]

It's not what Walz did, it is him lying about what he did that is the problem.

Its actually BOTH. He bailed, then lied about it.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Walz bailed on his men. Several were interviewed, including the guy who took his place.

Did he ever claim to have gone to Iraq?

That would be a shame

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

It's not what Walz did, it is him lying about what he did that is the problem.

Walz has said he has “an honorable record” — and other service members who led the same battalion have defended him.

“He was a great soldier,” Joseph Eustice, who served 32 years in the National Guard, told the Star Tribune in 2022.

“When he chose to leave, he had every right to leave,” added Eustice, who indicated that other attacks on Walz’s record may have been made by disgruntled soldiers who were passed up for promotions.

Another National Guard member who served under Walz said that the future US lawmaker was eyeing a run for Congress earlier than 2005.

“Would the soldier look down on him because he didn’t go with us? Would the common soldier say, ‘Hey, he didn’t go with us, he’s trying to skip out on a deployment?’ And he wasn’t,” Al Bonnifield recalled to Minnesota Public Radio of Walz’s concerns about dipping out before the deployment to Iraq.

“He talked with us for quite a while on that subject. He weighed that decision to run for Congress very heavy [sic],” Bonnifeld added. “He loved the military, he loved the guard, he loved the soldiers he worked with.”

“We all do what we can. I’m proud I did 24 years,” Walz has said about his service.

Walz joined the National Guard after high school and had served in the 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery before his retirement, where he obtained the rank of command sergeant major.

During his subsequent tenure in Congress, Walz came out in opposition against then-President George W. Bush’s plans to increase troop levels in Iraq.

Where did Walz serve, and what did he do in the National Guard?​

During his service, Walz responded to natural disasters, including floods and tornadoes in Minnesota and Nebraska, and was deployed overseas for months at a time, according to MPR.

In 2003, he was sent to Italy, where he served with the European Security Force to support the war in Afghanistan. He was also stationed in Norway for joint training with other NATO militaries.

Walz told MPR that he reenlisted in the National Guard after the September 11 attacks but never saw active combat in his years in the military.

Stars and Stripes reported in 2020 that Walz credited his Army experience with helping him steer Minnesota through the COVID-19 pandemic as governor.

As governor of Minnesota, Walz is commander in chief of the 13,000-soldier Minnesota National Guard. “I’m certainly proud of my military service, but it’s one piece of me,” he told Minnesota Public Radio in 2018. “It doesn’t define me.”

 

[Oddball]

Did he ever claim to have gone to Iraq?

That would be a shame

Claimed that he carried a "weapon in war", when he in fact did not.

He's total scum.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Its actually BOTH. He bailed, then lied about it.

“You abandoned your unit right before they went to Iraq,” Mr. Vance said.

Mr. Vance based his accusations on a Facebook post from 2018, and a paid letter to the editor to The West Central Tribune that same year in which the writers, Thomas Behrends and Paul Herr, both retired command sergeant majors in the Minnesota National Guard, accused Mr. Walz of “conveniently retiring a year before his battalion was deployed to Iraq.”

The criticisms were first leveled by Mr. Behrends and Mr. Herr during Mr. Walz’s first campaign for governor.

But Joseph Eustice, a 32-year veteran of the national guard who led the same battalion as Mr. Walz and served under him, said in an interview on Wednesday that the governor was a dependable soldier and that the attacks by his fellow comrades were unfounded.

“He was as good a soldier as you’d find, and to have two former sergeant majors say that he wasn’t, it’s just not true,” Mr. Eustice said, adding that he disagreed with Mr. Walz’s politics and most likely would not vote for him in November even though they were friends.

Mr. Eustice recalled that Mr. Walz’s decision to run for Congress came months before the battalion received any official notice of deployment, though he said there had been rumors that it might be deployed.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Claimed that he carried a "weapon in war", when he in fact did not.

He's total scum.

Ouch

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

It's not what Walz did, it is him lying about what he did that is the problem.

the stench of desperation coming out of Trump campaign:

The strategy, which Trump amplified Wednesday by calling Walz a “DISGRACE” on Truth Social, is a throwback to 2004, when Republicans attacked Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry’s record as a Navy officer in Vietnam. Chris LaCivita — who was a consultant to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth group that helped sink Kerry’s bid — is a senior adviser to Trump’s campaign and has signaled an eagerness to reopen the playbook on Walz.

Republicans start tearing down Walz by going after his military record

Donald Trump’s presidential campaign is homing in on what advisers see as a potential liability for Minnesota Gov.

www.yahoo.com

Walz has faced such attacks before, including in his re-election campaign in 2022, when his GOP opponent questioned his decision to leave the service in 2005. Walz’s campaign responded with a letter signed by 50 veterans praising his record and leadership.

“Governor Walz secured additional funding for new veterans homes,” read the letter, a copy of which the Harris campaign shared Wednesday with NBC News. “In his first term, Minnesota was one of just seven states initially selected by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to participate in the ‘Governor’s Challenge’ to eliminate veteran deaths by suicide.”

 

[Oddball]

Ouch

See #16...Right there out of the horse's ass.

 

[Weatherman2020]

24 years in the military vs zero for your blob. LOL... case closed.

How many years did Obama, Clinton and Biden serve?

 

[Crepitus]

Did he ever claim to have gone to Iraq?

That would be a shame

Maybe he had "bone spurs"?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

How many years did Obama, Clinton and Biden serve?

Your point?

 

[Blisterfinger]

Are you talking outta yer ass again, ShortBus?

You're a disgrace crappy!

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

See #16...Right there out of the horse's ass.

You people bring up "How many years did Obama, Clinton and Biden serve? " in this thread?

Okay...

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Maybe he had "bone spurs"?

Did trump claim to carry a "weapon in war" like Timpon?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Claimed he carried a weapon in war right here, schmendrick.




The very definition of "stolen valor".

Suck on it.

Nope.

Vance also accused Walz of feigning a record in active combat: "[Walz] said - and he was making a point about gun control - he said, ‘we shouldn't allow weapons that I used in war, to be on America's streets.' Well, I wonder, Tim Walz, when you ever in war?"

The senator actually misquoted Walz in his screed. In the clip Vance was referencing, Walz says that he "carried" weapons in war, not "used." Given that Operation Enduring Freedom was a part of the post-9/11 War on Terror, and that Walz was deployed to Italy under it - and likely had a service weapon - the claim that he is engaging in "stolen valor" holds little water.

 

[Crepitus]

You're a disgrace crappy!

"Yes sir, Mr. Crepitus sir" would have been the appropriate answer.

YOu need to work on your manners.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Did trump claim to carry a "weapon in war" like Timpon?

Twas a maxi-pad

 

[Stann]

unlike suckers and losers comment this stolen valor has mountains of evidence.

Vance Accuses Tim Walz Of National Guard ‘Stolen Valor’: The Heavily Contested Allegations Explained

Walz retired from the Minnesota National Guard after 24 years of service in 2005, and was elected to Congress in 2006.

www.forbes.com

Yes , he did this after Walz thanked him for his service. Despite all the hype Walz served longer and was honorably discharged. Misinformation abounds with this false claim by Vance. Walz trained men to fire arms , that's what he was inferring to. Walz has no need to lie. trump on the other hand more or less lied with the feet thing. You can't play sports if they are debilitating. , obviously trump 's wasn't and apparently still isn't a problem. His walking difficulties are because of the lifts he wears. Got to keep up the image once you lie about your height.