Mac1958
Diamond Member
The GOP needs a spokesperson who can articulate their position. The current set up is absurd, it's like having the GOP Primary debates on the LMSM. Boehner is not the guy, maybe Gary Sinese?
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Frank gets it.
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The GOP needs a spokesperson who can articulate their position. The current set up is absurd, it's like having the GOP Primary debates on the LMSM. Boehner is not the guy, maybe Gary Sinese?
Wow. The GOP can't win for losing!!
Bad News is everywhere for the Republican Party. Even the Fox News poll has found disapproval of the Republican Party jumping to 59% in their latest poll.
Support for repealing the ACA has dropped from 39% in June to 30% today. This could mean that the linking of funding the government to defunding or delaying the ACA has completely backfired on the Republican Party.
The government shutdown isnt just bad for Republicans. Its disastrous.
The Republican Party is being destroyed by their own obsession with Obamacare.
Fox News Poll Finds Disapproval Of GOP Skyrocketing After They Shut Down Government
THAT DAMN LIBERAL MEDIA FOX NEWS, eh?
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Meanwhile, a quarter of voters blame Republican leaders such as John Boehner (25 percent) for the shutdown and about the same number point the finger at President Obama (24 percent). Some 17 percent blame Tea Party Republicans such as Ted Cruz. Just 8 percent blame Democratic leaders such as Harry Reid. Another 20 percent think all of them are responsible for the shutdown.
By a 48-39 percent margin, voters say they trust Republicans in Congress more than President Obama when it comes to cutting government spending enough to make a difference in the deficit while at the same time not cutting so much that valuable programs are hurt.
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sorry buddy they were both recorded on video so you keep drinking the koolaid
Rand Paul, Mitch McConnell caught on hot mic talking shutdown strategy - YouTube
Interesting that you didn't bother to mention this:
I don't think they poll tested 'we won't negotiate.' I think it's awful for them (Dems) to say that over and over again
if we keep saying 'We wanted to defund it. We fought for that but now we're (Repubs) willing to compromise on this ...
The Dems refuse to negotiate, compromise, talk. Period. They are the ones demanding "my way or the highway". Period. Republicans are representing their constituents (half the country) and the Dems are just saying "fuck you, we won". Yeah, that's the right way to run things.![]()
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Interesting that you didn't bother to mention this:
if we keep saying 'We wanted to defund it. We fought for that but now we're (Repubs) willing to compromise on this ...
The Dems refuse to negotiate, compromise, talk. Period. They are the ones demanding "my way or the highway". Period. Republicans are representing their constituents (half the country) and the Dems are just saying "fuck you, we won". Yeah, that's the right way to run things.![]()
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What he's saying is it wasn't "poll tested". That's quit different.
I heard that when John Boehnor went to the meeting at the White House, he started with "we want to delay Obamacare a year" and the entire room erupted in laughter.
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I gotta wonder how many of our libturd posters actually belong to a dimocrap political advocacy group....
If I had to guess, I'd say at least 75% of them. OFA or something similar.... Douchebags 'R Us.... Whatever.
These people don't come in here to discuss anything, or to even even have a spirited debate or to call each other a few choice names.
They come in here to lie. They're here to push an agenda set forth by the White House.
If you go to different websites and read what the White House is pushing, watch what the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM on TV is saying and read their articles the rest of the DISGUSTING FILTH in the LSM is printing.....
There is hardly a bit of difference in tone or rhetoric.
dimocraps don't want this shutdown to end. If they did, they wouldn't be calling Republicans 'terrorists' and 'radicals' while mocking them in Public and in the DISGUSTING FILTH of the LSM.
Boys and Girls, I'm gonna tell you like it is...... dimocraps are killing the Country.
All Republicans are asking for is to delay obamacare one year and for the dimocraps to have some fiscal sanity. A compromise could be EASILY reached if dimocrap scum weren't out there calling Republicans names.
EASY. All we'd have to do is delay MANDATORY participation, fines, etc. And let anybody who WANTS to join up.... Join.
The Republicans can walk away with a minor victory and the dimocraps can claim overll victory.
Win-Win.
But dimocraps, being the Nazis they are, want TOTAL Victory. Chicago politics.
They don't want to defeat their opponents, they want to destroy them.
Here's the problem, if Republicans hang tough, and I think they will at this point, the whole Country gets hurt. Everything. Everybody.
It's time for dimocraps to put the Country ahead of petty partisanship.
And I'll tell you something else.....
In the end, it will be dimocraps who get HAMMERED for this.
I mean, absolutely HAMMERED.
People expect to see this little thing called 'Leadership' from their president and so far, he isn't showing any.
Not just here, I mean anywhere on anything.
Interesting that you didn't bother to mention this:
The Dems refuse to negotiate, compromise, talk. Period. They are the ones demanding "my way or the highway". Period. Republicans are representing their constituents (half the country) and the Dems are just saying "fuck you, we won". Yeah, that's the right way to run things.![]()
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What he's saying is it wasn't "poll tested". That's quit different.
I heard that when John Boehnor went to the meeting at the White House, he started with "we want to delay Obamacare a year" and the entire room erupted in laughter.
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The Dems will not repeat "we will not negotiate". Period. They know if they do they will get the blame that they (also) deserve for the shutdown. Period. They have to keep mum on their lack of compromise, their 'my way or the highway' stance, in order to keep public opinion on their side. Period.
In the end, it will be dimocraps who get HAMMERED for this.
I mean, absolutely HAMMERED.
People expect to see this little thing called 'Leadership' from their president and so far, he isn't showing any.
Not just here, I mean anywhere on anything.
Overall, the statistics might surprise: Of the 17 shutdowns in America’s history, Democrats controlled the House during 15 and had charge of both chambers during eight. Five shutdowns happened under unified government! This makes sense. Government shutdowns are caused by legitimate and welcome disagreement between equal branches. They are certainly more likely to happen in divided government, but it is not a prerequisite.
What stands out here is not the shutdown itself, but the president and Harry Reid’s public refusal even to engage with Republicans. As Matthews documents, most budget gaps are resolved by the participants’ compromising. The quaint notion that there is no obligation to come to a negotiated agreement because one branch of government “won” would be almost certainly regarded as somewhat odd not only by the architects of America’s constitutional order but by the major players in the previous few decades. Eleven shutdowns ended with a deal, five were resolved with an agreement temporarily to fund the government while debate continued, and one ended with Congress overriding a presidential veto. Stand firm if you want, Mr. President, but the history is against you here.
Deep down, libturds know they're gonna lose this one. They're just afraid to come out from their beds to confront the 'monster' they've created.
What he's saying is it wasn't "poll tested". That's quit different.
I heard that when John Boehnor went to the meeting at the White House, he started with "we want to delay Obamacare a year" and the entire room erupted in laughter.
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The Dems will not repeat "we will not negotiate". Period. They know if they do they will get the blame that they (also) deserve for the shutdown. Period. They have to keep mum on their lack of compromise, their 'my way or the highway' stance, in order to keep public opinion on their side. Period.
So repubs have brought us to the shutdown and NOW they think that would be a good time to "negotiate. LMAO. It don't work that way anymore.
Wouldn't it have made more sense to do the negotiations a bit earlier? Instead of refusing to compromise on ANYTHING.
You can't cause the shit to hit the fan then complain that no one wants to negotiate while they are standing in shit. Fix what you started, then there can be talks.
The Dems are the ones who will not compromise/negotiate/talk ... they are as much at fault for the shutdown as the Repubs.
Wouldn't it have made more sense for the Dems to pass a budget in the past five years so they wouldn't even need to do a cr? Oh, they were too busy shoving the aca down our throats to do their job. You don't see how hypocritical this sentence is, do you?
Both sides are to blame. Republicans are more than willing to negotiate and have presented numerous solutions. The Dems have done nothing but insist things be done "their way".
In the end, it will be dimocraps who get HAMMERED for this.
I mean, absolutely HAMMERED.
People expect to see this little thing called 'Leadership' from their president and so far, he isn't showing any.
Not just here, I mean anywhere on anything.
You know, it's really funny these people smash Obama at every turn and talk of him "getting hammered"
He's in his second term, he constitutionally cannot get reelected again....he's DONE. Why "bother" attacking Obama anymore? If you want to attack anyone at least attack Harry Reid or someone with some significance to the 2016+ elections.
It's fun to watch all of our libturd morons wail, pull their hair and gnash their teeth.
Deep down, they know that the dimocraps will get hammered by this. Once word gets out, once responsible adults start explaining what's going on to the people, once voters look past the lies in the DISGUSTING FILTH of the LSM and once America decides that they're tired of listening to the excuses by dimocraps....
Check this out:
Government Shutdowns: A History | National Review Online
Overall, the statistics might surprise: Of the 17 shutdowns in Americas history, Democrats controlled the House during 15 and had charge of both chambers during eight. Five shutdowns happened under unified government! This makes sense. Government shutdowns are caused by legitimate and welcome disagreement between equal branches. They are certainly more likely to happen in divided government, but it is not a prerequisite.
What stands out here is not the shutdown itself, but the president and Harry Reids public refusal even to engage with Republicans. As Matthews documents, most budget gaps are resolved by the participants compromising. The quaint notion that there is no obligation to come to a negotiated agreement because one branch of government won would be almost certainly regarded as somewhat odd not only by the architects of Americas constitutional order but by the major players in the previous few decades. Eleven shutdowns ended with a deal, five were resolved with an agreement temporarily to fund the government while debate continued, and one ended with Congress overriding a presidential veto. Stand firm if you want, Mr. President, but the history is against you here.
Deep down, libturds know they're gonna lose this one. They're just afraid to come out from their beds to confront the 'monster' they've created.
The Dems are the ones who will not compromise/negotiate/talk ... they are as much at fault for the shutdown as the Repubs.
Wouldn't it have made more sense for the Dems to pass a budget in the past five years so they wouldn't even need to do a cr? Oh, they were too busy shoving the aca down our throats to do their job. You don't see how hypocritical this sentence is, do you?
Both sides are to blame. Republicans are more than willing to negotiate and have presented numerous solutions. The Dems have done nothing but insist things be done "their way".
There is nothing left to negotiate...the budget is already agreed on, a budget written by the GOP House!
What can the GOP offer the Dems?? NOTHING! The terms are set and the only thing left is the GOP wanting to delay ACA. They have played all their cards and don't have anything to put on the table.