Dogmaphobe
Diamond Member
What did I enable?Thank you. That means a lot to me.You are a rare white person in this forum who can admit to this. Much respect bootney.
This forum grossly misrepresents of the general attitudes of most white folks, even many of the hardcore neocon Republicans. Most of this stuff you see here is defensiveness. It doesn't have to be that way. They can still disagree, but all we see in this thread is 99% yelling and shit throwing.
They are doing the very thing they accuse other of doing in "playing the race card." They are shutting down actual discussion with accusation and ridicule.
I'm pretty disappointed.
.
You are an enabler. You might as well be offering heroin to a junky. I happen to be disappointed in the groveling political correctness, myself, especially inasmuch as you are attempting to shame people into following suit.
You are reinforcing the blame game that prevents far too many black people from getting anywhere in life. How is it that people can arrive in this country from Asia with hardly more than the shirt on their back, yet within a generation are thriving, yet Blacks are not and this despite the FACT that they are given preference over every other group when it comes to jobs and education? There is a reason for that and that reason is black racism.
Your feeding the dysfunction only reinforces it.
Did you watch the video and respond to the content of the video? Did you bother to address the topic?
After watching the video and talking to IM2 about it, I don't think he has proposed anything unreasonable, even if you disagree with him (and I do quite frequently disagree with IM2). But, you apparently haven't bothered to engage in a discussion.
What blame game did I reinforce? It is a FACT that there was government-enforced inequity between the white race and the black race that began even before the founding of our country. Can you at least admit that?
There was inequity in rights after slavery was abolished. Can you admit that?
This may be a little harder for you to swallow, but don't you agree that the institution of slavery, inequality of rights, destructive government intervention, lack of job opportunities, etc. have had generational affects on black folks?
Nobody is asking you to give anybody anything. Just look at those facts and tell me if you can admit them.
You seem to mistake a reasonable discussion with wholesale agreement. You seemed to miss the post above where I talked about Texas acknowledging past racial inequities in college admissions, but addressing it by taking a race-neutral approach that has been successful for black kids but has left white kids with their own sense of fairness. I don't think IM2 agrees with it. But, he listened and discussed.
Can you listen and discuss, rather than dismiss and deny? Nobody is demanding that you or anyone else "feed" and "dysfunction."
This reminds me of that thread started by Mac1958 on the Politics board.
Trump supporters: What do you think of this post?
Simple question by Mac.
Trump supporters: What do you think of this post?This is a post from another thread.
In all seriousness, I'd like to know what you think of it. Please be as complete in your response as you would like. I have provided a chart of the unemployment rate below for your reference.
Thanks.
Obama took unemployment over 10%. It skyrocketed under him during his first two years. Conversely, unemployment has steadily declined under President Trump's first two years.
Go look at all those bullshit responses.
They accused him of everything under the sun, including BEING MISLEADING and dishonestly "leaving out" certain facts.
Mac never expressed an opinion. He just asked a question, and the lot of them jumped to 1000 different conclusions without actually telling Mac what they think.
You are free to tell IM2 why he is wrong, but you don't. You just accuse him of being a whiner and a racist.
What the fuck? What is the point of having a discussion forum?
If you disagree, tell him why. Back it up with facts/research/data/etc. Or just don't bother responding.
.
You enable all the victimology.
obviously so.
This is 2019, and two and even three generations of blacks have grown up experiencing all the advantages of affirmative action as well as the increasing freedom to be just as racist as they wish and still have people like you cowtowing in shame.
Whatever happened in the past happened in the past. IT DID NOT HAPPEN to IM2 or anybody he knows. All your arguments about the past are utterly fallacious because in the here and now, the only systematic implementation of racism in our country acts FOR blacks, not against.
I am of Irish decent, but do you see me whining about the British? No, of course not. I am an adult, not a fucking child and so I realize that any potential grievances did not happen to ME. It happened to somebody else.
Blacks in our society have every opportunity for advancement and MORE than any other group. Good grief, I lived in Oakland California for 15 years and was a minority in my neighborhood. The one thing that was VERY clear to me is that there was an inverse relationship between black racism and success. Those who were successful accepted me and I accepted them. They didn't have to blame anybody and neither did I. Those who went through their lives with seething resentment, however, were not successful.
You probably have not known very many black people because my middle class black neighbors didn't like the racist hood rats any more than I do. They didn't talk about evil whitey all the time, either, because you know what? They were living with them, working with them and befriending them.
Do you see, say, Winterborn talking shit like IM2? -- no, of course not. He's a totally cool dude and a very mature individual and he doesn't need that crutch. Those who need the crutch have issues and all your p.c. drivel is only feeding those issues.