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32,000 gun deaths, most of them committed with guns that were legally acquired.
And better than two-thirds of those were suicides. Whether there was a gun present or not, those would likely have happened. It is as dishonest to quote that now as when you first tried it.
Do you have a link for your "...most of them committed with guns that were legally acquired" claim?
Initially, they were. Some Gun Shop sells to a straw buyer... knowing that it's going to a crook, that's "legal".
Kid shoots himself with that gun mom bought to fight off imaginary rapists, that's legal.
But, no, guns aren't a problem and the rest of the world doesn't exist.
32,000 gun deaths, most of them committed with guns that were legally acquired.
And better than two-thirds of those were suicides. Whether there was a gun present or not, those would likely have happened. It is as dishonest to quote that now as when you first tried it.
Do you have a link for your "...most of them committed with guns that were legally acquired" claim?
Initially, they were. Some Gun Shop sells to a straw buyer... knowing that it's going to a crook, that's "legal".
Kid shoots himself with that gun mom bought to fight off imaginary rapists, that's legal.
But, no, guns aren't a problem and the rest of the world doesn't exist.
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As for the straw buyer claim, I call bullshit on you again. How does the gun shop know it is a straw buy and how do they know its going to a crook?? More lies. Joey?
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I guess, women don't matter to you much. Since you ridicule those who do not wish to be raped or who refuse to rely solely on the police to prevent their being raped.
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As for the straw buyer claim, I call bullshit on you again. How does the gun shop know it is a straw buy and how do they know its going to a crook?? More lies. Joey?
Do I look like I care.
A gun you sold is used in a crime, you own that crime. Done.
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I guess, women don't matter to you much. Since you ridicule those who do not wish to be raped or who refuse to rely solely on the police to prevent their being raped.
Since almost no rapes are prevented by guns- most women are raped by someone they know- the gun industry playing on their fear of being raped and putting a dangerous item in their house is the height of irresponsiblity.
As my friend no doubt discovered when the found her son in her basement with his head blown off.
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So it doesn't matter if there was no way the gun seller could know it was a straw buy. It doesn't matter that the federal gov't approved the sale. You just want the gun dealer in jail. Good luck selling that to the justice system. We may have some fucked up things happen in our courts, but that is too far.
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Do you have any links showing that there are almost no rapes prevented by guns? I have seen numerous stories of women shooting intruders. Why wouldn't that be stopping a rape?
And if your friend stored her gun unsecured, the fault is hers and no one else's. If you have a child in the house, you make sure the gun is locked up.
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So it doesn't matter if there was no way the gun seller could know it was a straw buy. It doesn't matter that the federal gov't approved the sale. You just want the gun dealer in jail. Good luck selling that to the justice system. We may have some fucked up things happen in our courts, but that is too far.
No, fucked up is trying Rolando Cruz for a third time when Brian Dugan had confessed to the murder a decade before.
That's fucked up.
Prosecuting the asshole who sold Joker Holmes a murder arsenal is actually kind of sensible.
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Do you have any links showing that there are almost no rapes prevented by guns? I have seen numerous stories of women shooting intruders. Why wouldn't that be stopping a rape?
And if your friend stored her gun unsecured, the fault is hers and no one else's. If you have a child in the house, you make sure the gun is locked up.
Most women know their rapists. I know the gun lobby is very good at selling pink pistols, but the reality is, like all claims of DGU's, are really just a lot of revenge fantasy.
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No, it is not. The gun seller committed no crime. That the justice system fucked up other things is not even close to relevant. There is no way the gun dealer could have known anything was out of the ordinary. And the feds approved the sale.
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According to this website, there are an estimated 237,868 rapes in the US every year. Yes, 2/3 were committed by someone they knew. But that still means there are almost 80k rapes by stranger. And you want to remove their means of defending themselves because some of them are either clueless about, or refuse to spend the money on, proper firearm storage?? Pitiful
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No, it is not. The gun seller committed no crime. That the justice system fucked up other things is not even close to relevant. There is no way the gun dealer could have known anything was out of the ordinary. And the feds approved the sale.
There are times you give someone the benefit of the doubt.
And there are times you don't.
This is really just common sense. When you have a gun industry determined to sell as many guns to as many people, they don't get the break when they say, "Hey, how was I supposed to know the guy with the orange hair doing the bad Heath Ledger Impersonation was up to no good when he wanted an AR-15 and a 100 Round drum Magazine?"
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According to this website, there are an estimated 237,868 rapes in the US every year. Yes, 2/3 were committed by someone they knew. But that still means there are almost 80k rapes by stranger. And you want to remove their means of defending themselves because some of them are either clueless about, or refuse to spend the money on, proper firearm storage?? Pitiful
No, I want to remove it because we have only 200 "Self-Defense" homicides and 32,000 gun deaths, of which 800 are accidents and 19,000 are suicides.
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No, it is not. The gun seller committed no crime. That the justice system fucked up other things is not even close to relevant. There is no way the gun dealer could have known anything was out of the ordinary. And the feds approved the sale.
There are times you give someone the benefit of the doubt.
And there are times you don't.
This is really just common sense. When you have a gun industry determined to sell as many guns to as many people, they don't get the break when they say, "Hey, how was I supposed to know the guy with the orange hair doing the bad Heath Ledger Impersonation was up to no good when he wanted an AR-15 and a 100 Round drum Magazine?"
You are grasping at straws. The gun dealer had no way of determining the customer's sanity. The feds thought he was ok enough to own a gun.
This is really just common sense. When you have a gun industry determined to sell as many guns to as many people, they don't get the break when they say, "Hey, how was I supposed to know the guy with the orange hair doing the bad Heath Ledger Impersonation was up to no good when he wanted an AR-15 and a 100 Round drum Magazine?"
You are grasping at straws. The gun dealer had no way of determining the customer's sanity. The feds thought he was ok enough to own a gun.
This is really just common sense. When you have a gun industry determined to sell as many guns to as many people, they don't get the break when they say, "Hey, how was I supposed to know the guy with the orange hair doing the bad Heath Ledger Impersonation was up to no good when he wanted an AR-15 and a 100 Round drum Magazine?"
You are grasping at straws. The gun dealer had no way of determining the customer's sanity. The feds thought he was ok enough to own a gun.
The Feds didn't look him in the eye. The gun store owner did.
And this is my problem. I simply cannot believe anyone spent more than a few minutes with a character like Holmes and didn't realize he was nuts.
This is really just common sense. When you have a gun industry determined to sell as many guns to as many people, they don't get the break when they say, "Hey, how was I supposed to know the guy with the orange hair doing the bad Heath Ledger Impersonation was up to no good when he wanted an AR-15 and a 100 Round drum Magazine?"
You are grasping at straws. The gun dealer had no way of determining the customer's sanity. The feds thought he was ok enough to own a gun.
The Feds didn't look him in the eye. The gun store owner did.
And this is my problem. I simply cannot believe anyone spent more than a few minutes with a character like Holmes and didn't realize he was nuts.
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You are completely full of shit if you think you can see insanity.
This is really just common sense. When you have a gun industry determined to sell as many guns to as many people, they don't get the break when they say, "Hey, how was I supposed to know the guy with the orange hair doing the bad Heath Ledger Impersonation was up to no good when he wanted an AR-15 and a 100 Round drum Magazine?"
You are grasping at straws. The gun dealer had no way of determining the customer's sanity. The feds thought he was ok enough to own a gun.
The Feds didn't look him in the eye. The gun store owner did.
And this is my problem. I simply cannot believe anyone spent more than a few minutes with a character like Holmes and didn't realize he was nuts.
If you saw a guy who looked like this, you would call the cops, notify the national guard and hide in your basement, huh?
Yeah, how could he NOT know this guy was about to go on a homicidal rampage?
