General Flynn Wasn’t The Only One

[alang1216]

Putting an admitted liar on a pedestal. Again.

I said nothing about Bill 'the rapist' Clinton, nor Hussein Obama!!!!

ah damn it PC, you're making too much sense yet again. these people don't care about the truth or facts.

As I see it, you're making a hero out of a liar. Seems to be a pattern with 'you' people.

what did he lie about? you have no idea. Again, are you saying no one ever was coerced into saying they were guilty of something?

WASHINGTON (AP) — Somehow, The Washington Post had uncovered Michael Flynn’s secret. Somehow, it had learned that he had spoken with Russia’s ambassador the same day the Obama administration announced hefty sanctions on the country.

Now the question was raised: Had the incoming national security adviser undermined the sanctions?

Flynn was in trouble.

“What the hell is this all about?” Trump fumed to his chief of staff, Reince Priebus. Priebus called Flynn. The boss is angry, he told Flynn. “Kill the story,” he said.

Flynn, the retired U.S. Army lieutenant general who grew close to Trump on the campaign trail, knew it was true. Just weeks before, he had indeed discussed the sanctions and persuaded the Kremlin not to escalate the situation. But feeling the pressure of Trump’s anger after Priebus’ call, Flynn turned to his deputy.

Call the Post, Flynn said. Tell them there were no sanctions discussions. Even though she knew better, the aide, K.T. McFarland, did as she was told.

It was the first lie about Flynn’s Russia contacts. It wouldn’t be the last.
___

Over the next few days, Flynn repeated the lie to Priebus and others in the White House. No sanctions discussions with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, he told Mike Pence, the vice president-elect. He said the same to press secretary Sean Spicer. And they parroted that to the public.

“They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia,” Pence said during a Jan. 15 appearance on CBS “Face the Nation.

The denials set off alarm bells at the Justice Department.

Acting Attorney General Sally Yates, an Obama holdover, and other senior officials knew the comments weren’t true. U.S. intelligence agencies, which routinely monitor the communications of foreign diplomats, had learned of Flynn’s discussions with Kislyak when analyzing the Kremlin’s response to the sanctions. The FBI had also opened an investigation into Flynn’s relationship with Russia.

Yates worried that Flynn’s lie could put him and other U.S. officials in a compromising position because the Russians could prove the American public had been misled. There was also an ongoing counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign’s contacts with Russia, of which Flynn’s calls were now a part of the mounting evidence.

The Justice Department’s concerns only increased when, after Trump’s inauguration and Flynn’s appointment as the nation’s top national security aide, Spicer gave his first press briefing. He had spoken with Flynn the night before, he told reporters.

The Kislyak calls weren’t about sanctions, he said. Next question.

___

Two FBI agents walked into the White House the next day. It was Jan. 24, 2017, and they were there to talk to Flynn.

One of them was Peter Strzok, a senior counterintelligence official who would later face scrutiny for his anti-Trump comments. Flynn agreed to talk with them, and when asked, denied that he told Kislyak to back off from escalating situation in response to the sanctions.

He also lied about a follow-up phone call and another matter: On Dec. 21, 2016, when Egypt pushed a resolution at the United Nations critical of Israeli settlements in Palestinian areas, Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner turned to Flynn to push for the Kremlin to oppose the move. Flynn had unsuccessfully pressured Kislyak on the issue. But he told the agents otherwise.

News of the false statements to the FBI— a crime under federal law— quickly made it to Yates, who on Jan. 26, called White House counsel Don McGahn. She needed to discuss a sensitive matter.

In a meeting with McGahn and another White House lawyer later that day, Yates told him that Pence’s comments about Flynn weren’t true. Also, Flynn’s FBI interview hadn’t gone well.

McGahn, not entirely swayed by Yates, asked the National Security Council’s legal adviser, John Eisenberg, to look into the matter. He also went to Trump.

The president told him to work with Priebus and chief strategist Steve Bannon to look into it further. He added: Don’t discuss this with anyone else.

“Not again, this guy, this stuff,” Trump told Priebus, referring to Flynn.

___

Over the next week and a half, Eisenberg and McGahn gathered more information, and Flynn had a one-on-one with Trump in the Oval Office. What did you talk about with Kislyak? Trump asked. Flynn acknowledged he might have discussed sanctions.

Days later, the front page of The Washington Post would say the same thing.

The story shook Pence, who had been in the dark. A review of Justice Department documents sealed it. Flynn couldn’t have just forgotten. He had lied. McGahn and Priebus told Trump he had to fire Flynn.

That weekend, Flynn flew to Mar-A-Lago with the president. On the plane back to Washington on Feb. 12, Trump asked him whether he lied to Pence. Flynn said he may have forgotten some things but denied lying. “OK. That’s fine,” Trump responded. “I got it.”

The next day, Flynn was out.

As much as some of us appreciate them, those kinds of detailed recitations of the facts have no effect on lying sacks of shit like politcalchic.

Probably not but it was the most concise account I've seen.

 

[colfax_m]

Nope. Flynn didn't lie......the FBI did.

He confessed to lying. The pile of horseshit you are standing on is getting deeper.

Flynn’s lawyers said special counsel Robert Mueller’s team committed “malfeasance” for deciding to prosecute Flynn despite being aware of these documents. The defense alleges that the feds “deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution—knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.”

But nothing in the documents released this week were exculpatory, former prosecutors told TPM, meaning that they do not exonerate Flynn of allegations — which he previously admitted under oath — that he lied to the FBI agents about his Russian contacts.

“If it’s not exculpatory, it doesn’t have to be turned over,” Sandick said.

again, are you saying anyone whoever pleaded and guilty and overturned due to coercion should all be back in prison?

There are no exculpatory facts.

Let's wait and see.

You must be used to losing by now.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion failed

Russia, Russia, Russia failed.

Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction failed.

Racist, Racist, Racist failed.

Impeach, Impeach, Impeach failed.

Recession, Recession, Recession failed.

Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ one after another lead balloons.

You can gloat when Clinton is locked up. Until then, you're just compensating for your own failures.

 

[colfax_m]

Nope. Flynn didn't lie......the FBI did.

He confessed to lying. The pile of horseshit you are standing on is getting deeper.

Flynn’s lawyers said special counsel Robert Mueller’s team committed “malfeasance” for deciding to prosecute Flynn despite being aware of these documents. The defense alleges that the feds “deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution—knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.”

But nothing in the documents released this week were exculpatory, former prosecutors told TPM, meaning that they do not exonerate Flynn of allegations — which he previously admitted under oath — that he lied to the FBI agents about his Russian contacts.

“If it’s not exculpatory, it doesn’t have to be turned over,” Sandick said.

again, are you saying anyone whoever pleaded and guilty and overturned due to coercion should all be back in prison?

There are no exculpatory facts.

they threaten his family. nothing more exculpatory than that.

How does that change any of the facts of the charges against him? He still lied.

What was the lie?

Flynn stated he did not discuss sanctions with the Russian ambassador when in reality he did.

How do you not know this?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nope. Flynn didn't lie......the FBI did.

He confessed to lying. The pile of horseshit you are standing on is getting deeper.

Flynn’s lawyers said special counsel Robert Mueller’s team committed “malfeasance” for deciding to prosecute Flynn despite being aware of these documents. The defense alleges that the feds “deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution—knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.”

But nothing in the documents released this week were exculpatory, former prosecutors told TPM, meaning that they do not exonerate Flynn of allegations — which he previously admitted under oath — that he lied to the FBI agents about his Russian contacts.

“If it’s not exculpatory, it doesn’t have to be turned over,” Sandick said.

again, are you saying anyone whoever pleaded and guilty and overturned due to coercion should all be back in prison?

There are no exculpatory facts.

Let's wait and see.

You must be used to losing by now.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion failed

Russia, Russia, Russia failed.

Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction failed.

Racist, Racist, Racist failed.

Impeach, Impeach, Impeach failed.

Recession, Recession, Recession failed.

Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ one after another lead balloons.

You can gloat when Clinton is locked up. Until then, you're just compensating for your own failures.

I can 'gloat' in each and every one of these cases.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion failed

Russia, Russia, Russia failed.

Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction failed.

Racist, Racist, Racist failed.

Impeach, Impeach, Impeach failed.

Recession, Recession, Recession failed.

Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ one after another lead balloons.



And especially in this one:

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?



In your face.....booooooyyyyyyyeeeeee!!!!

 

[alang1216]

Brady defends Flynn!!!

"Who was Brady, anyhow? We ask because of the incredible evidence “suggesting,” as the Wall Street Journal puts it, that the FBI withheld exculpatory information from General Michael Flynn when President Trump’s first national security adviser was being maneuvered into the guilty plea that he is now trying to withdraw. The obligation of prosecutors to disclose exculpatory material is called the “Brady Rule.”

Interesting bit of history but you failed to connect the dots. What exculpatory evidence did the FBI withhold?

Did I miss your reply on the exculpatory information or are you just a liar?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nope. Flynn didn't lie......the FBI did.

He confessed to lying. The pile of horseshit you are standing on is getting deeper.

Flynn’s lawyers said special counsel Robert Mueller’s team committed “malfeasance” for deciding to prosecute Flynn despite being aware of these documents. The defense alleges that the feds “deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution—knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.”

But nothing in the documents released this week were exculpatory, former prosecutors told TPM, meaning that they do not exonerate Flynn of allegations — which he previously admitted under oath — that he lied to the FBI agents about his Russian contacts.

“If it’s not exculpatory, it doesn’t have to be turned over,” Sandick said.

again, are you saying anyone whoever pleaded and guilty and overturned due to coercion should all be back in prison?

There are no exculpatory facts.

they threaten his family. nothing more exculpatory than that.

How does that change any of the facts of the charges against him? He still lied.

What was the lie?

Flynn stated he did not discuss sanctions with the Russian ambassador when in reality he did.

How do you not know this?

You don't want to wait for adjudication????

Why is that?



We both know why.....don't we.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Brady defends Flynn!!!

"Who was Brady, anyhow? We ask because of the incredible evidence “suggesting,” as the Wall Street Journal puts it, that the FBI withheld exculpatory information from General Michael Flynn when President Trump’s first national security adviser was being maneuvered into the guilty plea that he is now trying to withdraw. The obligation of prosecutors to disclose exculpatory material is called the “Brady Rule.”

Interesting bit of history but you failed to connect the dots. What exculpatory evidence did the FBI withhold?

Did I miss your reply on the exculpatory information or are you just a liar?

The agents said he didn't lie.

 

[colfax_m]

Nope. Flynn didn't lie......the FBI did.

He confessed to lying. The pile of horseshit you are standing on is getting deeper.

Flynn’s lawyers said special counsel Robert Mueller’s team committed “malfeasance” for deciding to prosecute Flynn despite being aware of these documents. The defense alleges that the feds “deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution—knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.”

But nothing in the documents released this week were exculpatory, former prosecutors told TPM, meaning that they do not exonerate Flynn of allegations — which he previously admitted under oath — that he lied to the FBI agents about his Russian contacts.

“If it’s not exculpatory, it doesn’t have to be turned over,” Sandick said.

again, are you saying anyone whoever pleaded and guilty and overturned due to coercion should all be back in prison?

There are no exculpatory facts.

Let's wait and see.

You must be used to losing by now.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion failed

Russia, Russia, Russia failed.

Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction failed.

Racist, Racist, Racist failed.

Impeach, Impeach, Impeach failed.

Recession, Recession, Recession failed.

Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ one after another lead balloons.

You can gloat when Clinton is locked up. Until then, you're just compensating for your own failures.

I can 'gloat' in each and every one of these cases.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion failed

Russia, Russia, Russia failed.

Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction failed.

Racist, Racist, Racist failed.

Impeach, Impeach, Impeach failed.

Recession, Recession, Recession failed.

Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ one after another lead balloons.



And especially in this one:

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?



In your face.....booooooyyyyyyyeeeeee!!!!

Let me know when you get Clinton locked up. Otherwise I'm just going to ignore you.

 

[colfax_m]

Nope. Flynn didn't lie......the FBI did.

He confessed to lying. The pile of horseshit you are standing on is getting deeper.

Flynn’s lawyers said special counsel Robert Mueller’s team committed “malfeasance” for deciding to prosecute Flynn despite being aware of these documents. The defense alleges that the feds “deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution—knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.”

But nothing in the documents released this week were exculpatory, former prosecutors told TPM, meaning that they do not exonerate Flynn of allegations — which he previously admitted under oath — that he lied to the FBI agents about his Russian contacts.

“If it’s not exculpatory, it doesn’t have to be turned over,” Sandick said.

again, are you saying anyone whoever pleaded and guilty and overturned due to coercion should all be back in prison?

There are no exculpatory facts.

they threaten his family. nothing more exculpatory than that.

How does that change any of the facts of the charges against him? He still lied.

What was the lie?

Flynn stated he did not discuss sanctions with the Russian ambassador when in reality he did.

How do you not know this?

You don't want to wait for adjudication????

Why is that?

We both know why.....don't we.

It's been adjudicated.
He lied. Are you denying that?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nope. Flynn didn't lie......the FBI did.

He confessed to lying. The pile of horseshit you are standing on is getting deeper.

Flynn’s lawyers said special counsel Robert Mueller’s team committed “malfeasance” for deciding to prosecute Flynn despite being aware of these documents. The defense alleges that the feds “deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution—knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.”

But nothing in the documents released this week were exculpatory, former prosecutors told TPM, meaning that they do not exonerate Flynn of allegations — which he previously admitted under oath — that he lied to the FBI agents about his Russian contacts.

“If it’s not exculpatory, it doesn’t have to be turned over,” Sandick said.

again, are you saying anyone whoever pleaded and guilty and overturned due to coercion should all be back in prison?

There are no exculpatory facts.

Let's wait and see.

You must be used to losing by now.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion failed

Russia, Russia, Russia failed.

Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction failed.

Racist, Racist, Racist failed.

Impeach, Impeach, Impeach failed.

Recession, Recession, Recession failed.

Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ one after another lead balloons.

You can gloat when Clinton is locked up. Until then, you're just compensating for your own failures.

I can 'gloat' in each and every one of these cases.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion failed

Russia, Russia, Russia failed.

Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction failed.

Racist, Racist, Racist failed.

Impeach, Impeach, Impeach failed.

Recession, Recession, Recession failed.

Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ one after another lead balloons.



And especially in this one:

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?



In your face.....booooooyyyyyyyeeeeee!!!!

Let me know when you get Clinton locked up. Otherwise I'm just going to ignore you.

Can you quote where I said she'd be locked up?

 

[colfax_m]

Nope. Flynn didn't lie......the FBI did.

He confessed to lying. The pile of horseshit you are standing on is getting deeper.

Flynn’s lawyers said special counsel Robert Mueller’s team committed “malfeasance” for deciding to prosecute Flynn despite being aware of these documents. The defense alleges that the feds “deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution—knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.”

But nothing in the documents released this week were exculpatory, former prosecutors told TPM, meaning that they do not exonerate Flynn of allegations — which he previously admitted under oath — that he lied to the FBI agents about his Russian contacts.

“If it’s not exculpatory, it doesn’t have to be turned over,” Sandick said.

again, are you saying anyone whoever pleaded and guilty and overturned due to coercion should all be back in prison?

There are no exculpatory facts.

Let's wait and see.

You must be used to losing by now.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion failed

Russia, Russia, Russia failed.

Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction failed.

Racist, Racist, Racist failed.

Impeach, Impeach, Impeach failed.

Recession, Recession, Recession failed.

Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ one after another lead balloons.

You can gloat when Clinton is locked up. Until then, you're just compensating for your own failures.

I can 'gloat' in each and every one of these cases.....

First collusion, collusion, collusion failed

Russia, Russia, Russia failed.

Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction failed.

Racist, Racist, Racist failed.

Impeach, Impeach, Impeach failed.

Recession, Recession, Recession failed.

Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ one after another lead balloons.



And especially in this one:

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?



In your face.....booooooyyyyyyyeeeeee!!!!

Let me know when you get Clinton locked up. Otherwise I'm just going to ignore you.

Can you quote where I said she'd be locked up?

Can you show me where I said he had colluded?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The essence of this thread is that the Left/Democrats endeavor is to destroy anyone and anything that affronts them or stands in their way to power.


The example is the comparison between General Flynn and a relative unknown, Trevor Fitzgibbon.



9. “Smith: So often in these cases, I think what we're faced with is it's a “He Said, She Said” thing. There's not a lot of witnesses, if any, ever present. So to say that you're just always going to believe the woman really doesn't get us anywhere.

It may also open the possibility that accusations can be weaponized to smear a target for hidden motives. FitzGibbon began to suspect he was the target of a smear right after it was announced he wouldn’t be charged yet he was attacked in a national press release.

FitzGibbon: And that press release was a letter signed by 72 national organizations pledging to never hire me or work with me again.

Sharyl: What did you think of when you saw that?

FitzGibbon: It was one of the first times that I realized that something else is at play.

He’d sold his house, was split from his wife and children, including infant twins and was too discredited to find work. FitzGibbon now thinks powerful people may have come after him because of his PR work for enemies of the mainstream Democratic party and the stateincluding WikiLeaks. In 2016, WikiLeaks published embarrassing insider emails of Hillary Clinton officials and the Democratic National Committee, and WikiLeaks was accused of working with Russia and being pro-Trump. There’s little doubt there are powerful efforts to smear WikiLeaks and its supporters. Government contractors circulated this dossier in 2010, a wide-ranging strategy to combat “The WikiLeaks Threat,” to “sabotage or discredit” WikiLeaks supporters using “social media exploitation” and “disinformation.” Shades of Grey: A disturbing follow up to our story on allegedly false sex charges | Sharyl Attkisson



The same modus operandi in so many cases.

 

[jc456]

coercion

None of the bullcrap you idiots are throwing on the wall changes the fact that Flynn lied to the FBI about his conversation with Kislyak and then confessed to lying.

They said he didn’t, not us

 

[colfax_m]

The essence of this thread is that the Left/Democrats endeavor is to destroy anyone and anything that affronts them or stands in their way to power.


The example is the comparison between General Flynn and a relative unknown, Trevor Fitzgibbon.



9. “Smith: So often in these cases, I think what we're faced with is it's a “He Said, She Said” thing. There's not a lot of witnesses, if any, ever present. So to say that you're just always going to believe the woman really doesn't get us anywhere.

It may also open the possibility that accusations can be weaponized to smear a target for hidden motives. FitzGibbon began to suspect he was the target of a smear right after it was announced he wouldn’t be charged yet he was attacked in a national press release.

FitzGibbon: And that press release was a letter signed by 72 national organizations pledging to never hire me or work with me again.

Sharyl: What did you think of when you saw that?

FitzGibbon: It was one of the first times that I realized that something else is at play.

He’d sold his house, was split from his wife and children, including infant twins and was too discredited to find work. FitzGibbon now thinks powerful people may have come after him because of his PR work for enemies of the mainstream Democratic party and the stateincluding WikiLeaks. In 2016, WikiLeaks published embarrassing insider emails of Hillary Clinton officials and the Democratic National Committee, and WikiLeaks was accused of working with Russia and being pro-Trump. There’s little doubt there are powerful efforts to smear WikiLeaks and its supporters. Government contractors circulated this dossier in 2010, a wide-ranging strategy to combat “The WikiLeaks Threat,” to “sabotage or discredit” WikiLeaks supporters using “social media exploitation” and “disinformation.” Shades of Grey: A disturbing follow up to our story on allegedly false sex charges | Sharyl Attkisson



The same modus operandi in so many cases.

Big problem here is the guy suffered these accusations in 2015, so how could these accusations be some kind of retribution fro Wikileaks publishing embarrassing emails in 2016?

The evidence to support this guy's accusation is completely absent.

 

[jc456]

Nope. Flynn didn't lie......the FBI did.

He confessed to lying. The pile of horseshit you are standing on is getting deeper.

Flynn’s lawyers said special counsel Robert Mueller’s team committed “malfeasance” for deciding to prosecute Flynn despite being aware of these documents. The defense alleges that the feds “deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution—knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.”

But nothing in the documents released this week were exculpatory, former prosecutors told TPM, meaning that they do not exonerate Flynn of allegations — which he previously admitted under oath — that he lied to the FBI agents about his Russian contacts.

“If it’s not exculpatory, it doesn’t have to be turned over,” Sandick said.

again, are you saying anyone whoever pleaded and guilty and overturned due to coercion should all be back in prison?

There are no exculpatory facts.

they threaten his family. nothing more exculpatory than that.

How does that change any of the facts of the charges against him? He still lied.

But he didn’t

 

[jc456]

they threaten his family.

They were investigating his son for similar crimes. Stop trying to wordsmith this.

Hahaha hahaha

 

[colfax_m]

Nope. Flynn didn't lie......the FBI did.

He confessed to lying. The pile of horseshit you are standing on is getting deeper.

Flynn’s lawyers said special counsel Robert Mueller’s team committed “malfeasance” for deciding to prosecute Flynn despite being aware of these documents. The defense alleges that the feds “deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution—knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.”

But nothing in the documents released this week were exculpatory, former prosecutors told TPM, meaning that they do not exonerate Flynn of allegations — which he previously admitted under oath — that he lied to the FBI agents about his Russian contacts.

“If it’s not exculpatory, it doesn’t have to be turned over,” Sandick said.

again, are you saying anyone whoever pleaded and guilty and overturned due to coercion should all be back in prison?

There are no exculpatory facts.

they threaten his family. nothing more exculpatory than that.

How does that change any of the facts of the charges against him? He still lied.

But he didn’t

So did he talk with the ambassador about sanctions or not?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The essence of this thread is that the Left/Democrats endeavor is to destroy anyone and anything that affronts them or stands in their way to power.


The example is the comparison between General Flynn and a relative unknown, Trevor Fitzgibbon.



9. “Smith: So often in these cases, I think what we're faced with is it's a “He Said, She Said” thing. There's not a lot of witnesses, if any, ever present. So to say that you're just always going to believe the woman really doesn't get us anywhere.

It may also open the possibility that accusations can be weaponized to smear a target for hidden motives. FitzGibbon began to suspect he was the target of a smear right after it was announced he wouldn’t be charged yet he was attacked in a national press release.

FitzGibbon: And that press release was a letter signed by 72 national organizations pledging to never hire me or work with me again.

Sharyl: What did you think of when you saw that?

FitzGibbon: It was one of the first times that I realized that something else is at play.

He’d sold his house, was split from his wife and children, including infant twins and was too discredited to find work. FitzGibbon now thinks powerful people may have come after him because of his PR work for enemies of the mainstream Democratic party and the stateincluding WikiLeaks. In 2016, WikiLeaks published embarrassing insider emails of Hillary Clinton officials and the Democratic National Committee, and WikiLeaks was accused of working with Russia and being pro-Trump. There’s little doubt there are powerful efforts to smear WikiLeaks and its supporters. Government contractors circulated this dossier in 2010, a wide-ranging strategy to combat “The WikiLeaks Threat,” to “sabotage or discredit” WikiLeaks supporters using “social media exploitation” and “disinformation.” Shades of Grey: A disturbing follow up to our story on allegedly false sex charges | Sharyl Attkisson



The same modus operandi in so many cases.

Big problem here is the guy suffered these accusations in 2015, so how could these accusations be some kind of retribution fro Wikileaks publishing embarrassing emails in 2016?

The evidence to support this guy's accusation is completely absent.

Actually, you are completely wrong......again.

Clinton Email Is Released After Security Concern Is Dismissed ...
www.nytimes.com › 2015/12/01 › politics › a-hillary-cl...

Dec 1, 2015 - A trove of messages made public by the State Department also touches on technology difficulties and a concussion.
You visited this page on 5/3/20.






FitzGibbon Media sexual assault claims: alleged victims ...
www.theguardian.com › media › dec › fitzgibbon-medi...

Dec 19, 2015 - Two women who say the founder of progressive PR firm FitzGibbon Media sexually harassed them tell the Guardian they were afraid to report ...




Did you want to comment on this?

No lie, plot, ploy, scheme is too indecent for these savages. Ruin an American hero, bankrupt him, threaten his family…..all for the cause. But this sort of evil is not reserved for Flynn, or Trump. It is for anyone who opposes them or their interests. I bet few know of the same sort of attack on Trevor FitzGibbon.
The following cautionary tale is how certain Democrats destroyed Fitzgibbon, and who perpetrated it……and listen for the echo of what is happening to Biden.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nope. Flynn didn't lie......the FBI did.

He confessed to lying. The pile of horseshit you are standing on is getting deeper.

Flynn’s lawyers said special counsel Robert Mueller’s team committed “malfeasance” for deciding to prosecute Flynn despite being aware of these documents. The defense alleges that the feds “deliberately suppressed this evidence from the inception of this prosecution—knowing there was no crime by Mr. Flynn.”

But nothing in the documents released this week were exculpatory, former prosecutors told TPM, meaning that they do not exonerate Flynn of allegations — which he previously admitted under oath — that he lied to the FBI agents about his Russian contacts.

“If it’s not exculpatory, it doesn’t have to be turned over,” Sandick said.

again, are you saying anyone whoever pleaded and guilty and overturned due to coercion should all be back in prison?

There are no exculpatory facts.

they threaten his family. nothing more exculpatory than that.

How does that change any of the facts of the charges against him? He still lied.

But he didn’t

So did he talk with the ambassador about sanctions or not?

The agents who did the interview said he didn't lie.

What law did he break?



Did the plot to destroy Flynn represent him as a proxy for Trump?

 

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The essence of this thread is that the Left/Democrats endeavor is to destroy anyone and anything that affronts them or stands in their way to power.


The example is the comparison between General Flynn and a relative unknown, Trevor Fitzgibbon.



9. “Smith: So often in these cases, I think what we're faced with is it's a “He Said, She Said” thing. There's not a lot of witnesses, if any, ever present. So to say that you're just always going to believe the woman really doesn't get us anywhere.

It may also open the possibility that accusations can be weaponized to smear a target for hidden motives. FitzGibbon began to suspect he was the target of a smear right after it was announced he wouldn’t be charged yet he was attacked in a national press release.

FitzGibbon: And that press release was a letter signed by 72 national organizations pledging to never hire me or work with me again.

Sharyl: What did you think of when you saw that?

FitzGibbon: It was one of the first times that I realized that something else is at play.

He’d sold his house, was split from his wife and children, including infant twins and was too discredited to find work. FitzGibbon now thinks powerful people may have come after him because of his PR work for enemies of the mainstream Democratic party and the stateincluding WikiLeaks. In 2016, WikiLeaks published embarrassing insider emails of Hillary Clinton officials and the Democratic National Committee, and WikiLeaks was accused of working with Russia and being pro-Trump. There’s little doubt there are powerful efforts to smear WikiLeaks and its supporters. Government contractors circulated this dossier in 2010, a wide-ranging strategy to combat “The WikiLeaks Threat,” to “sabotage or discredit” WikiLeaks supporters using “social media exploitation” and “disinformation.” Shades of Grey: A disturbing follow up to our story on allegedly false sex charges | Sharyl Attkisson



The same modus operandi in so many cases.

Big problem here is the guy suffered these accusations in 2015, so how could these accusations be some kind of retribution fro Wikileaks publishing embarrassing emails in 2016?

The evidence to support this guy's accusation is completely absent.

Actually, you are completely wrong......again.
Clinton Email Is Released After Security Concern Is Dismissed ...
www.nytimes.com › 2015/12/01 › politics › a-hillary-cl...

Dec 1, 2015 - A trove of messages made public by the State Department also touches on technology difficulties and a concussion.
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FitzGibbon Media sexual assault claims: alleged victims ...
www.theguardian.com › media › dec › fitzgibbon-medi...

Dec 19, 2015 - Two women who say the founder of progressive PR firm FitzGibbon Media sexually harassed them tell the Guardian they were afraid to report ...




Did you want to comment on this?

No lie, plot, ploy, scheme is too indecent for these savages. Ruin an American hero, bankrupt him, threaten his family…..all for the cause. But this sort of evil is not reserved for Flynn, or Trump. It is for anyone who opposes them or their interests. I bet few know of the same sort of attack on Trevor FitzGibbon.
The following cautionary tale is how certain Democrats destroyed Fitzgibbon, and who perpetrated it……and listen for the echo of what is happening to Biden.

My comment is the same as above. Where is the evidence connecting these two? You're story is extremely flimsy. You're now saying that he was attacked in 2015 for something Wikileaks published in 2011?

Besides, he already admitted to inappropriate behavior, and the accusations came from numerous women, not just the one who later recanted as part of a settlement.

This is really weaksauce. There's no facts here, just loose associations.