George Zimmerman sues Warren and Buttigieg for 265 million

Who the fuck is Nick Sampson?

He is the 16 year old boy who was wearing a MAGA hat that made the news while the Black Hebrew Israelites shouted four letter words and other vile verbal garbage at him. He just stood there wearing his hat and smiling not saying a word and he was hammered in the press for it, excuse me so called press.

That's Sandmann. And I put out the challenge, over a year ago back in January 2019, for anyone to find and bring to us any evidence of said "the press" "hammering" him over it. Any web page, newsprint, broadcast, whatever. To this day I have received a total of zero.

Again, not just the name but how can someone be "defamed" if no one can recall ever seeing or hearing it?


Smirking MAGA Hat Student Responds to Accusations of Harassment

Video shows teens in MAGA hats surrounding Native American veteran

Appalling: Catholic school students harass Native American veteran on Lincoln Memorial steps; Corrected

Viral video show white teens in MAGA hats harassing a Native American vet

Kentucky high school student seen on video mocking Native American protester gives his side of the story

And they were all lies, Phillps is the one that approached the students, Sandmann just stood there silent.

Appalling: Catholic school students harass Native American veteran on Lincoln Memorial steps; Corrected

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Okay, this is more like what I asked for but let's peruse the list.

First link simply says Smirk-boi responds -- it's quoting his take on it. The fact that Smirk-Boi responded is a true fact.

Second describes what's in a viral video. The video was viral, that's also true.

Third one is a blog. Note that when the writer apologizes, he directs it to the body of Covington students who he had mischaracterized initially, and NOT Smirk-Boi individually.

Fourth one, a writer for Vox, actually makes a declarative cause-and-effect statement:

President Donald Trump started off the week by mocking one of the worst Native American massacres in US history in order to score some political points. By Friday, a group of young white teenagers were following in his footsteps by taunting Native American elders at the Indigenous Peoples March in Washington, DC — on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, no less. (Vox)​

-- which could be characterized as describing the group's motives, although it remains a fact that they were taunting Philips additionally "the group" is a collective while Smirk-Boi is an individual; Same as previous link, whether it attributes a causation or not it's referring to the group.

Fifth link is, again, a recounting of a statement ("gives his side of the story");

And then the sixth one is the same as the third one, repeated.

And reviewing all of them I'm seeing wording of "a video appears to show" and also seeing more background on the Black Hebrew Israelites. What I'm not seeing is any direct declarative statement about "what Smirk-Boi personally was doing" or why.

Also only one of them is an actual news reporter (#2) and I'm not aware that CBS has been sued.

It's a lot of verbage, if you have something specific in there I may have missed, don't just plop links, go ahead and quote it specifically.


I could provide more, but you have proven you're not interested in the facts. The fact was no one taunted Phillips, Phillips is the one that approached the kids. He's the one that moved among them and then came back to Sandmann and got in his face. Sandmann did nothing but stand his ground and smile. Another fact is Sandmann was singled out in most of the reporting and that's why CNN settled the case.

New York (CNN Business)CNN has settled a lawsuit with a Kentucky high school student who was at the center of a viral video controversy, a spokesperson for the news network confirmed Tuesday.

CNN settles lawsuit with Nick Sandmann stemming from viral video controversy - CNN

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Wrong!
All the rest of the students from Covington were yelling hate speech.
And anyone watching the video will get the impression Sandmann closed the distance to Phillips and moved when he moved, in order to block him.
None of the Covington students were there for a legitimate purpose, but were intent upon deliberately trying to harm other political causes.
Which was illegal because they were under age, during school hours, and being used by the school as political pawns.
 
George Zimmerman, the onetime neighborhood watch volunteer who was acquitted in the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida, is suing Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg for $265 million, claiming both 2020 Democratic presidential candidates defamed him in an attempt to "garner votes in the black community."

The lawsuit filed in Polk County, Fla., Tuesday argues Warren and Buttigieg’s two separate tweets on Feb. 5, which would have been Martin’s 25th birthday, used the killing “as a pretext to demagogue and falsely brand Zimmerman as a white supremacist and racist to their millions of Twitter followers.”

Buttigieg tweeted to his 1.6 million followers. The message garnered 42,000 likes, 13,300 replies and 6,600 retweets in just three days, the lawsuit states.

“My heart goes out to @SybrinaFulton and Trayvon's family and friends. He should still be with us today. We need to end gun violence and racism. And we need to build a world where all of our children—especially young Black boys—can grow up safe and free,” Warren tweeted to her 3.6 million followers on the same day, sharing four photos of Trayvon Martin as a small child, between the ages of 4 and 10. The message received 7,300 likes and 1,000 retweets in three days, in addition to national media coverage, the lawsuit states.


George Zimmerman sues Warren, Buttigieg for $265M, accuses them of attempting to garner black votes by defaming him

Any chance at him winning? Who knows. I'm sure he has a lawyer that made this decision, so I'm guessing he can.

There was nothing racial about the shooting of Martin. Zimmerman, a minority himself, lived in a very diverse gated housing complex. If I remember correctly, he attended his school prom with a black girlfriend. But because he was a white-Hispanic and not black himself, the lying MSM tried to make it a racial incident.

Have the Democrats finally crossed the line with using blacks to promote their hate? We'll see. Should be a very interesting election with this in the works.


No, the audio of the 9/11 operator clearly contains Zimmerman using the 'N' word.
Zimmerman was racist, and FL Hispanics are notorious for being ultra racist.

Also Zimmerman was NOT at all a member of Neighborhood Watch.
He went to one meeting, but was rejected because he would not follow the rules.
And the rules would have prevented the situation that he caused by his criminal actions.
Neighborhood Watch never allows any of its member to patrol while armed or alone.
By violating those simple and obvious rules, and a few more, Zimmerman caused the whole scenario to occur.
It was all his fault, even if it did not necessarily prove an intent to commit 2nd degree murder.

We also now know Zimmerman is not a good guy because of all the additional violence he has been convicted of, such as domestic violence.

Zimmerman was part of the neighborhood watch, but that had nothing to do with the shooting. Zimmerman was simply going to the store. After he got in his truck, he spotted Martin. Knowing most of the people there, he knew Martin was not part of that gated community, and given the rise of home break-ins, he suspected that Martin could be one of the people involved in the crimes.

Zimmerman did the right thing. He seen a suspicious character that fit the description of the people breaking into homes, and immediately called the police. That's what you're supposed to do.

Armed wannabe cop was not authorized to pursue what he considered suspects. Being armed embolden him, and that also played a part in the tragedy, by giving that warm gun feeling of superiority. When in fact a high school kid was able to get the better of him. But I understand that. When I was in High School I could have knocked the shit out of him too.

So was Michael Brown wrongly shot too?
 
I am hoping however Nick Sampson's case goes to trial and he wins at least a partial victory for the way those left wing asshole slobs treated him.

NIcholas Sandmann? He sued CNN for $250 million and they settled with him. The amount he received hasn't been divulged. He also had a lawsuit against the Washington Post but some liberal hack judge dropped the case at WAPO's request.
FYI, the same judge reopened the case.

https://nypost.com/2019/10/28/judge...dmanns-250m-suit-against-the-washington-post/

Nicholas Sandmann deserves nothing and should be charged instead.
That is because he was legally supposed to be in school at the time, and not bussed to a fake demonstration against Planned Parenthood. He himself said and did very little, but it is clear he was attempting to obstruct, as well as he was party to the group that was hurling racial hate speech.

Sandmann had nothing to do with the Black Israelites.

Of course Sandmann was there to counter both the Indigenous Peoples' March and the Black Israelites, as well as Planned Parenthood.
It was Phillips who was caught between them.
{...
The incident, which The New York Times described as an "explosive political moment", took place in the late afternoon of January 18, 2019, on the Plaza of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C. at the conclusion of a day of rallies for two groups, Indigenous Peoples March, and the March for Life.[9] The marches had represented entirely separate purposes: raising awareness of indigenous peoples issues[13] and raising awareness of pro-life/abortion issues respectively. For about ten minutes,[14] there was an overlap on the Plaza of a small group from the Indigenous Peoples March and a larger group of students from the all-male Covington Catholic High School in Park Hills, Kentucky, who were gathering at their appointed meeting place at the steps of the Plaza to wait for their buses to return home. Before the students arrived, a group of five Black Hebrew Israelites stood in a row "shouting scripture from red books" and taunting passers-by.[9][13][15][Notes 1][16] As the 15- and 16-year-old students began to arrive, the Hebrew Israelites began to taunt them directly,[10][17][18][10][19][20][21][22][23] and shouted racially combative insults and slurs at them.[10][19][20] As more Covington students arrived, and in response to these taunts, the students performed school spirit sports chants, including their version of a Māori haka.[17][24][Notes 2] One of the Native Americans who was there for the March said that he felt "the students were mocking the dance."[25]
...}
January 2019 Lincoln Memorial confrontation - Wikipedia

Those were Black Israelites who shot up that NY Deli and murdered those Jewish people.
 
Zimmerman was part of the neighborhood watch, but that had nothing to do with the shooting. Zimmerman was simply going to the store. After he got in his truck, he spotted Martin. Knowing most of the people there, he knew Martin was not part of that gated community, and given the rise of home break-ins, he suspected that Martin could be one of the people involved in the crimes.

Zimmerman did the right thing. He seen a suspicious character that fit the description of the people breaking into homes, and immediately called the police. That's what you're supposed to do.

Armed wannabe cop was not authorized to pursue what he considered suspects. Being armed embolden him, and that also played a part in the tragedy, by giving that warm gun feeling of superiority. When in fact a high school kid was able to get the better of him. But I understand that. When I was in High School I could have knocked the shit out of him too.

Perhaps, but when you were in school, citizens were defenseless from attackers. We didn't carry guns back then. Today we do. So if you have plans on attacking somebody, that has to be a consideration.

Now if Zimmerman caught up to Martin, perhaps prevented him from escape, then Zimmerman would have been locked up for murder. You can't trap somebody and then use your firearm if they react. Zimmerman chased Martin for a very short time. Martin was long gone when Zimmerman stopped running. Martin waited for Zimmerman in the dark, and attacked him after he got off the phone with the dispatcher.

Just because somebody followed you for 20 seconds does not give you the legal right to attack them later on. It's still felony assault.

Neither person acted wisely. Martin should have called the police on Zimmerman. But he was just a kid, and hindsight is 20/20. I just don't think he would have chased the kid if he didn't have a gun.

Martin had no reason to call the police on Zimmerman because he thought he had left Zimmerman behind.
He did not realize Zimmerman would take a diagonal, get in front of him, cut him off, and force a confrontation.

I think Martin knew and was pissed that Zimmerman had tagged him and was following him. But then we only have one side of the story.of the confrontation right?

How is Martin being pissed even relevant to the story? I used to get pissed from time to time at people, but I never violently attacked them.
 
George Zimmerman, the onetime neighborhood watch volunteer who was acquitted in the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida, is suing Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg for $265 million, claiming both 2020 Democratic presidential candidates defamed him in an attempt to "garner votes in the black community."

The lawsuit filed in Polk County, Fla., Tuesday argues Warren and Buttigieg’s two separate tweets on Feb. 5, which would have been Martin’s 25th birthday, used the killing “as a pretext to demagogue and falsely brand Zimmerman as a white supremacist and racist to their millions of Twitter followers.”

Buttigieg tweeted to his 1.6 million followers. The message garnered 42,000 likes, 13,300 replies and 6,600 retweets in just three days, the lawsuit states.

“My heart goes out to @SybrinaFulton and Trayvon's family and friends. He should still be with us today. We need to end gun violence and racism. And we need to build a world where all of our children—especially young Black boys—can grow up safe and free,” Warren tweeted to her 3.6 million followers on the same day, sharing four photos of Trayvon Martin as a small child, between the ages of 4 and 10. The message received 7,300 likes and 1,000 retweets in three days, in addition to national media coverage, the lawsuit states.


George Zimmerman sues Warren, Buttigieg for $265M, accuses them of attempting to garner black votes by defaming him

Any chance at him winning? Who knows. I'm sure he has a lawyer that made this decision, so I'm guessing he can.

There was nothing racial about the shooting of Martin. Zimmerman, a minority himself, lived in a very diverse gated housing complex. If I remember correctly, he attended his school prom with a black girlfriend. But because he was a white-Hispanic and not black himself, the lying MSM tried to make it a racial incident.

Have the Democrats finally crossed the line with using blacks to promote their hate? We'll see. Should be a very interesting election with this in the works.


No, the audio of the 9/11 operator clearly contains Zimmerman using the 'N' word.
Zimmerman was racist, and FL Hispanics are notorious for being ultra racist.

Also Zimmerman was NOT at all a member of Neighborhood Watch.
He went to one meeting, but was rejected because he would not follow the rules.
And the rules would have prevented the situation that he caused by his criminal actions.
Neighborhood Watch never allows any of its member to patrol while armed or alone.
By violating those simple and obvious rules, and a few more, Zimmerman caused the whole scenario to occur.
It was all his fault, even if it did not necessarily prove an intent to commit 2nd degree murder.

We also now know Zimmerman is not a good guy because of all the additional violence he has been convicted of, such as domestic violence.

Zimmerman was part of the neighborhood watch, but that had nothing to do with the shooting. Zimmerman was simply going to the store. After he got in his truck, he spotted Martin. Knowing most of the people there, he knew Martin was not part of that gated community, and given the rise of home break-ins, he suspected that Martin could be one of the people involved in the crimes.

Zimmerman did the right thing. He seen a suspicious character that fit the description of the people breaking into homes, and immediately called the police. That's what you're supposed to do.

Armed wannabe cop was not authorized to pursue what he considered suspects. Being armed embolden him, and that also played a part in the tragedy, by giving that warm gun feeling of superiority. When in fact a high school kid was able to get the better of him. But I understand that. When I was in High School I could have knocked the shit out of him too.

Perhaps, but when you were in school, citizens were defenseless from attackers. We didn't carry guns back then. Today we do.

Dafuck? How old do you think Blindboo is?

Unless he's under 30 and depending on where he lives, CCW's are a pretty new thing to a lot of folks. I assume that people here are middle-aged or older.
 
Who else could they have been talking about? They were celebrating what would be Martin's birthday today, and they basically said that the person that killed him was a racist white-Hispanic supremacist. There was only one person that killed Martin.

You cannot build a defamation case on assumptions. The law requires that the defamer published or uttered some purported factual statement about the aggrieved, that they knew to be false, with the express purpose of defaming him/her. None of that is met here.

One tweet reads, "How many 25th birthdays have been stolen from us by white supremacy, gun violence, prejudice, and fear?" That's not even a statement at all; it's a rhetorical question. And it mentions no names.

The other tweet reads, "“My heart goes out to @SybrinaFulton and Trayvon's family and friends. He should still be with us today. We need to end gun violence and racism. And we need to build a world where all of our children—especially young Black boys—can grow up safe and free,”

Again, no names other than the deceased. What case can a plaintiff possibly make there? That we should NOT end gun violence and racism and we should NOT build a world where all of our children—especially young Black boys—can grow up safe and free?

Rotsa ruck wit dat one. And even if they did make that case, it wasn't directed at anyone.


The fact is Martin deserved killing, a jury said so. So there was no stolen 25th birthday stolen in his case.

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If somebody robs a beverage store an is shot by the owner, nobody can say the robber's life was stolen. He took it upon himself to surrender his life for personal desire or gain.

Fair point. But if you're planting your flag on this Zimmerman person being the subject in the tweets in question,.that poses its own question -- was the kid on the end of the bullet robbing a beverage store? Or robbing anything? I don't know the details of the event.


Martin had Zimmerman on his back pounding his head in the pavement. Martin was the aggressor and got his self killed, Zimmerman was to have acted in self defense. Martin and Zimmerman are inextricably linked to that day. Google either one and the other will appear in the story. That's why Zimmerman might have a case.

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Totally false.
That is just what Zimmerman claimed, but can not possibly be true.
First of all, Zimmerman was much bigger, stronger, and older than Martin, so it would have been impossible for Martin to have been the physical aggressor.
Second is that there was no physical evidence of the pounding he claimed.
If skin abrades due to impact, there is a huge bruise and a large jagged split.
What the back of Zimmerman's head showed was a tiny scratch, that did not even bleed much.
He did not even need stitches.
The area also was almost entirely grass.
There was just a single, tiny, 30" wide sidewalk, which anyone could roll off of, even if they could not get up.
Zimmerman also had to be the aggressor because he was the one constantly moving towards Martin, and never away.
The ONLY thing in Zimmerman's favor is that he may not have intended to murder Martin and just caused the situation by mistaking Martin for a criminal.
But he should then still have been charged with something, like conduct regardless of life, or something.
And you can tell that is the case because the police WANTED to charge him.
And the police only backed down when they discovered he was the son of a powerful judge.
 
George Zimmerman, the onetime neighborhood watch volunteer who was acquitted in the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida, is suing Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg for $265 million, claiming both 2020 Democratic presidential candidates defamed him in an attempt to "garner votes in the black community."

The lawsuit filed in Polk County, Fla., Tuesday argues Warren and Buttigieg’s two separate tweets on Feb. 5, which would have been Martin’s 25th birthday, used the killing “as a pretext to demagogue and falsely brand Zimmerman as a white supremacist and racist to their millions of Twitter followers.”

Buttigieg tweeted to his 1.6 million followers. The message garnered 42,000 likes, 13,300 replies and 6,600 retweets in just three days, the lawsuit states.

“My heart goes out to @SybrinaFulton and Trayvon's family and friends. He should still be with us today. We need to end gun violence and racism. And we need to build a world where all of our children—especially young Black boys—can grow up safe and free,” Warren tweeted to her 3.6 million followers on the same day, sharing four photos of Trayvon Martin as a small child, between the ages of 4 and 10. The message received 7,300 likes and 1,000 retweets in three days, in addition to national media coverage, the lawsuit states.


George Zimmerman sues Warren, Buttigieg for $265M, accuses them of attempting to garner black votes by defaming him

Any chance at him winning? Who knows. I'm sure he has a lawyer that made this decision, so I'm guessing he can.

There was nothing racial about the shooting of Martin. Zimmerman, a minority himself, lived in a very diverse gated housing complex. If I remember correctly, he attended his school prom with a black girlfriend. But because he was a white-Hispanic and not black himself, the lying MSM tried to make it a racial incident.

Have the Democrats finally crossed the line with using blacks to promote their hate? We'll see. Should be a very interesting election with this in the works.


No, the audio of the 9/11 operator clearly contains Zimmerman using the 'N' word.
Zimmerman was racist, and FL Hispanics are notorious for being ultra racist.

Also Zimmerman was NOT at all a member of Neighborhood Watch.
Lie.

He went to one meeting, but was rejected because he would not follow the rules.
And the rules would have prevented the situation that he caused by his criminal actions.
Neighborhood Watch never allows any of its member to patrol while armed or alone.
By violating those simple and obvious rules, and a few more, Zimmerman caused the whole scenario to occur.
It was all his fault, even if it did not necessarily prove an intent to commit 2nd degree murder.

We also now know Zimmerman is not a good guy because of all the additional violence he has been convicted of, such as domestic violence.

Lie.
" the evening of February 26, Martin was walking back alone to the fiancée's house from a nearby convenience store. Zimmerman, a member of the community watch, saw Martin and reported him to the Sanford Police as suspicious. Several minutes later"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trayvon_Martin

Another lie, he never said "******". I just listened to the call.

Weapons are not part of the watch program and are discouraged, even though local laws and permits may give a volunteer the legal authority to carry a gun (either openly or concealed). Neighborhood watch programs are created mainly around the concept of getting to know one's neighbors.

Discouraged, not prohibted. You are an abject liar son.
 
George Zimmerman, the onetime neighborhood watch volunteer who was acquitted in the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida, is suing Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg for $265 million, claiming both 2020 Democratic presidential candidates defamed him in an attempt to "garner votes in the black community."

The lawsuit filed in Polk County, Fla., Tuesday argues Warren and Buttigieg’s two separate tweets on Feb. 5, which would have been Martin’s 25th birthday, used the killing “as a pretext to demagogue and falsely brand Zimmerman as a white supremacist and racist to their millions of Twitter followers.”

Buttigieg tweeted to his 1.6 million followers. The message garnered 42,000 likes, 13,300 replies and 6,600 retweets in just three days, the lawsuit states.

“My heart goes out to @SybrinaFulton and Trayvon's family and friends. He should still be with us today. We need to end gun violence and racism. And we need to build a world where all of our children—especially young Black boys—can grow up safe and free,” Warren tweeted to her 3.6 million followers on the same day, sharing four photos of Trayvon Martin as a small child, between the ages of 4 and 10. The message received 7,300 likes and 1,000 retweets in three days, in addition to national media coverage, the lawsuit states.


George Zimmerman sues Warren, Buttigieg for $265M, accuses them of attempting to garner black votes by defaming him

Any chance at him winning? Who knows. I'm sure he has a lawyer that made this decision, so I'm guessing he can.

There was nothing racial about the shooting of Martin. Zimmerman, a minority himself, lived in a very diverse gated housing complex. If I remember correctly, he attended his school prom with a black girlfriend. But because he was a white-Hispanic and not black himself, the lying MSM tried to make it a racial incident.

Have the Democrats finally crossed the line with using blacks to promote their hate? We'll see. Should be a very interesting election with this in the works.


No, the audio of the 9/11 operator clearly contains Zimmerman using the 'N' word.
Zimmerman was racist, and FL Hispanics are notorious for being ultra racist.

Also Zimmerman was NOT at all a member of Neighborhood Watch.
He went to one meeting, but was rejected because he would not follow the rules.
And the rules would have prevented the situation that he caused by his criminal actions.
Neighborhood Watch never allows any of its member to patrol while armed or alone.
By violating those simple and obvious rules, and a few more, Zimmerman caused the whole scenario to occur.
It was all his fault, even if it did not necessarily prove an intent to commit 2nd degree murder.

We also now know Zimmerman is not a good guy because of all the additional violence he has been convicted of, such as domestic violence.

Zimmerman was part of the neighborhood watch, but that had nothing to do with the shooting. Zimmerman was simply going to the store. After he got in his truck, he spotted Martin. Knowing most of the people there, he knew Martin was not part of that gated community, and given the rise of home break-ins, he suspected that Martin could be one of the people involved in the crimes.

Zimmerman did the right thing. He seen a suspicious character that fit the description of the people breaking into homes, and immediately called the police. That's what you're supposed to do.

Armed wannabe cop was not authorized to pursue what he considered suspects. Being armed embolden him, and that also played a part in the tragedy, by giving that warm gun feeling of superiority. When in fact a high school kid was able to get the better of him. But I understand that. When I was in High School I could have knocked the shit out of him too.


The fact is Zimmerman was on his way back to his truck when Martin doubled back and attacked him. But hey, feel free to keep spewing the commie talking points that bear no resemblance to reality.

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Yeah my commie neighborhood watch doesn't allow guns for the nightly patrols . Even an armed commie would feel embolden by the feel of that cold lethal steel at his finger tips. He might even put him self in greater danger than he would otherwise without a gun while chasing down those suspected criminal Capitalist. </sarcasm>

But hey, stay in your box.

Trevon should have gone home and called the real cops.


Trevon told his girlfriend he was going to teach the cracker a lesson, his miscalculation cost him his life.

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No, the audio of the 9/11 operator clearly contains Zimmerman using the 'N' word.
Zimmerman was racist, and FL Hispanics are notorious for being ultra racist.

Also Zimmerman was NOT at all a member of Neighborhood Watch.
He went to one meeting, but was rejected because he would not follow the rules.
And the rules would have prevented the situation that he caused by his criminal actions.
Neighborhood Watch never allows any of its member to patrol while armed or alone.
By violating those simple and obvious rules, and a few more, Zimmerman caused the whole scenario to occur.
It was all his fault, even if it did not necessarily prove an intent to commit 2nd degree murder.

We also now know Zimmerman is not a good guy because of all the additional violence he has been convicted of, such as domestic violence.

Zimmerman was part of the neighborhood watch, but that had nothing to do with the shooting. Zimmerman was simply going to the store. After he got in his truck, he spotted Martin. Knowing most of the people there, he knew Martin was not part of that gated community, and given the rise of home break-ins, he suspected that Martin could be one of the people involved in the crimes.

Zimmerman did the right thing. He seen a suspicious character that fit the description of the people breaking into homes, and immediately called the police. That's what you're supposed to do.

Armed wannabe cop was not authorized to pursue what he considered suspects. Being armed embolden him, and that also played a part in the tragedy, by giving that warm gun feeling of superiority. When in fact a high school kid was able to get the better of him. But I understand that. When I was in High School I could have knocked the shit out of him too.

Perhaps, but when you were in school, citizens were defenseless from attackers. We didn't carry guns back then. Today we do.

Dafuck? How old do you think Blindboo is?

Unless he's under 30 and depending on where he lives, CCW's are a pretty new thing to a lot of folks. I assume that people here are middle-aged or older.

You said that when he went to school "we didn't carry guns". Hell I remember my school nearly getting locked down when a kid came to school with weapons, and that was in the Sixties. We've ALWAYS carried guns. It's bizarre (both of those) but true.
 
George Zimmerman, the onetime neighborhood watch volunteer who was acquitted in the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida, is suing Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg for $265 million, claiming both 2020 Democratic presidential candidates defamed him in an attempt to "garner votes in the black community."

The lawsuit filed in Polk County, Fla., Tuesday argues Warren and Buttigieg’s two separate tweets on Feb. 5, which would have been Martin’s 25th birthday, used the killing “as a pretext to demagogue and falsely brand Zimmerman as a white supremacist and racist to their millions of Twitter followers.”

Buttigieg tweeted to his 1.6 million followers. The message garnered 42,000 likes, 13,300 replies and 6,600 retweets in just three days, the lawsuit states.

“My heart goes out to @SybrinaFulton and Trayvon's family and friends. He should still be with us today. We need to end gun violence and racism. And we need to build a world where all of our children—especially young Black boys—can grow up safe and free,” Warren tweeted to her 3.6 million followers on the same day, sharing four photos of Trayvon Martin as a small child, between the ages of 4 and 10. The message received 7,300 likes and 1,000 retweets in three days, in addition to national media coverage, the lawsuit states.


George Zimmerman sues Warren, Buttigieg for $265M, accuses them of attempting to garner black votes by defaming him

Any chance at him winning? Who knows. I'm sure he has a lawyer that made this decision, so I'm guessing he can.

There was nothing racial about the shooting of Martin. Zimmerman, a minority himself, lived in a very diverse gated housing complex. If I remember correctly, he attended his school prom with a black girlfriend. But because he was a white-Hispanic and not black himself, the lying MSM tried to make it a racial incident.

Have the Democrats finally crossed the line with using blacks to promote their hate? We'll see. Should be a very interesting election with this in the works.


No, the audio of the 9/11 operator clearly contains Zimmerman using the 'N' word.
Zimmerman was racist, and FL Hispanics are notorious for being ultra racist.

Also Zimmerman was NOT at all a member of Neighborhood Watch.
He went to one meeting, but was rejected because he would not follow the rules.
And the rules would have prevented the situation that he caused by his criminal actions.
Neighborhood Watch never allows any of its member to patrol while armed or alone.
By violating those simple and obvious rules, and a few more, Zimmerman caused the whole scenario to occur.
It was all his fault, even if it did not necessarily prove an intent to commit 2nd degree murder.

We also now know Zimmerman is not a good guy because of all the additional violence he has been convicted of, such as domestic violence.

Not a word of truth in the above ....demonstrated by the evidence presented at the trial.

People that come on here and post such obvious lies should be banned.

Everything I wrote came from the trial transcript I read.
Clearly you did NOT read the trial transcript.
Here is the audio of the 9/11 call to refresh your memory, that proves Zimmerman was the pursuer and used the N word.
 
When all is said and done.................This was really no more than a huge “racism” hoax, just like the dozens that are shoved under the carpet every year. Except that this time, the con men and their sycophants overplayed their hand. Just as in the rape hoax, they got national media attention and were eventually exposed as vindictive frauds.

Anytime a thread gets started on the Zimmerman affair you see Negroes and Liberals come on and present their fantasys whipped up by over-active and biased imaginations like they are real facts.

The problem with these morons is they lack the ability to think properly and that coupled with their ignorance of the case is quite evident to anyone who watched the trial and knows the real facts of the case.
 
You cannot build a defamation case on assumptions. The law requires that the defamer published or uttered some purported factual statement about the aggrieved, that they knew to be false, with the express purpose of defaming him/her. None of that is met here.

One tweet reads, "How many 25th birthdays have been stolen from us by white supremacy, gun violence, prejudice, and fear?" That's not even a statement at all; it's a rhetorical question. And it mentions no names.

The other tweet reads, "“My heart goes out to @SybrinaFulton and Trayvon's family and friends. He should still be with us today. We need to end gun violence and racism. And we need to build a world where all of our children—especially young Black boys—can grow up safe and free,”

Again, no names other than the deceased. What case can a plaintiff possibly make there? That we should NOT end gun violence and racism and we should NOT build a world where all of our children—especially young Black boys—can grow up safe and free?

Rotsa ruck wit dat one. And even if they did make that case, it wasn't directed at anyone.


The fact is Martin deserved killing, a jury said so. So there was no stolen 25th birthday stolen in his case.

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If somebody robs a beverage store an is shot by the owner, nobody can say the robber's life was stolen. He took it upon himself to surrender his life for personal desire or gain.

Fair point. But if you're planting your flag on this Zimmerman person being the subject in the tweets in question,.that poses its own question -- was the kid on the end of the bullet robbing a beverage store? Or robbing anything? I don't know the details of the event.

Our laws are pretty similar to those in Florida. I'm pushing 60 years old right now, and I have a lot of medical problems. If two younger built guys point to me and say "LETS GET HIM" it's irrelevant if they have a weapon or not. No law states they have to. I (as a CCW holder in my state) reserve the right to use deadly force against them. This is exactly what Zimmerman did. He was attacked, he was virtually defenseless, and used deadly force to stop the attack not knowing how far Martin would go.

This incident is 8 years old now. There is no reason for either of these politicians to use Zimmerman to promote their racial and firearm hatred. Zimmerman had to stay in low cover from all the death threats he received after the verdict. It's irresponsible and immoral to possibly resurrect those emotions in some people that could put Zimmerman in jeopardy of harm or death. So just to shut these worthless F's up, I hope this lawsuit is permitted, and no matter what the award, be enough to stop these crooked politicians from taking advantage of others misfortune for their own selfish advantage.

That's all well and good and I'm really not interested in derailing this thread to a rehash of whatever happened eight years ago. What I asked above was whether the kid was robbing aastore per your analogy.

Back on the topic, there's still no connection between either tweet and anybody named "Zimmerman". If we said "today is the anniversary of Marcus Kaarma getting 70 years in prison" and then follow it with "we have to stop gun violence", we're not saying "Marcus Karma is responsible for all gun violence". That's a leap without a bridge.

And if you actually want lawsuits to "stop crooked politicians from taking advantage of others misfortune for their own selfish advantage", that could get very interesting starting with Rump and his "he's not a hero" dropping plus countless others.

In that tweet, they used Zimmerman as an example of gun violence, racism, hate and so on. I say that's a pretty strong correlation. Let me put it another way.

"I was asked how old I thought Blindboo was." We need to stop stupid assholes from asking idiotic questions."

Now, how would you take that? Of course if I said such a thing (and I don't mean it of course, just providing an example) you would take offense to it. Would you not? Or would you say because I didn't name you personally, I was just changing subjects?

More importantly though is everybody knew who they were talking about. And again, that could create a dangerous situation for Zimmerman if the right kook read something like that. Certain people are not going to use technicalities to not act out in violence.
 
He is the 16 year old boy who was wearing a MAGA hat that made the news while the Black Hebrew Israelites shouted four letter words and other vile verbal garbage at him. He just stood there wearing his hat and smiling not saying a word and he was hammered in the press for it, excuse me so called press.

That's Sandmann. And I put out the challenge, over a year ago back in January 2019, for anyone to find and bring to us any evidence of said "the press" "hammering" him over it. Any web page, newsprint, broadcast, whatever. To this day I have received a total of zero.

Again, not just the name but how can someone be "defamed" if no one can recall ever seeing or hearing it?


Smirking MAGA Hat Student Responds to Accusations of Harassment

Video shows teens in MAGA hats surrounding Native American veteran

Appalling: Catholic school students harass Native American veteran on Lincoln Memorial steps; Corrected

Viral video show white teens in MAGA hats harassing a Native American vet

Kentucky high school student seen on video mocking Native American protester gives his side of the story

And they were all lies, Phillps is the one that approached the students, Sandmann just stood there silent.

Appalling: Catholic school students harass Native American veteran on Lincoln Memorial steps; Corrected

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Okay, this is more like what I asked for but let's peruse the list.

First link simply says Smirk-boi responds -- it's quoting his take on it. The fact that Smirk-Boi responded is a true fact.

Second describes what's in a viral video. The video was viral, that's also true.

Third one is a blog. Note that when the writer apologizes, he directs it to the body of Covington students who he had mischaracterized initially, and NOT Smirk-Boi individually.

Fourth one, a writer for Vox, actually makes a declarative cause-and-effect statement:

President Donald Trump started off the week by mocking one of the worst Native American massacres in US history in order to score some political points. By Friday, a group of young white teenagers were following in his footsteps by taunting Native American elders at the Indigenous Peoples March in Washington, DC — on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, no less. (Vox)​

-- which could be characterized as describing the group's motives, although it remains a fact that they were taunting Philips additionally "the group" is a collective while Smirk-Boi is an individual; Same as previous link, whether it attributes a causation or not it's referring to the group.

Fifth link is, again, a recounting of a statement ("gives his side of the story");

And then the sixth one is the same as the third one, repeated.

And reviewing all of them I'm seeing wording of "a video appears to show" and also seeing more background on the Black Hebrew Israelites. What I'm not seeing is any direct declarative statement about "what Smirk-Boi personally was doing" or why.

Also only one of them is an actual news reporter (#2) and I'm not aware that CBS has been sued.

It's a lot of verbage, if you have something specific in there I may have missed, don't just plop links, go ahead and quote it specifically.


I could provide more, but you have proven you're not interested in the facts. The fact was no one taunted Phillips, Phillips is the one that approached the kids. He's the one that moved among them and then came back to Sandmann and got in his face. Sandmann did nothing but stand his ground and smile. Another fact is Sandmann was singled out in most of the reporting and that's why CNN settled the case.

New York (CNN Business)CNN has settled a lawsuit with a Kentucky high school student who was at the center of a viral video controversy, a spokesperson for the news network confirmed Tuesday.

CNN settles lawsuit with Nick Sandmann stemming from viral video controversy - CNN

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Wrong!
All the rest of the students from Covington were yelling hate speech.
LIE
As more Covington students arrived, and in response to these taunts, the students performed school spirit sports chants, including their version of a Māori haka.[17][24][Notes 2] One of the Native Americans who was there for the March said that he felt "the students were mocking the dance."[25]

And anyone watching the video will get the impression Sandmann closed the distance to Phillips and moved when he moved, in order to block him.
None of the Covington students were there for a legitimate purpose, but were intent upon deliberately trying to harm other political causes.
Which was illegal because they were under age, during school hours, and being used by the school as political pawns.

God what a liar you are.

"For about ten minutes,[14] there was an overlap on the Plaza of a small group from the Indigenous Peoples March and a larger group of students from the all-male Covington Catholic High School in Park Hills, Kentucky, who were gathering at their appointed meeting place at the steps of the Plaza to wait for their buses to return home"

January 2019 Lincoln Memorial confrontation - Wikipedia
 
The media didn't even make that distinction. They used the term white-Hispanic. They had to get the "white" part in there, or otherwise it wouldn't be a story. They couldn't get any protests going using Hispanic, they couldn't get any riots going, they couldn't sell enough news papers.

It’s all political opportunism.

Isn’t it interesting that the guy driving a van into a tent full of Trump supporters got no national coverage?

You may not be a negro but you certainly sound like one.

Now, flip the script and say it was a Trump supporter diving a van into a Bernie tent...do you think it makes the national news? :21:

Besides the Zimmerman story being dragged out for as long as it was, the media still hounded him years after it was over. It was a simple local self-defense case that would have never gotten any national media attention if it were two black people or two whites.

The other weekend, Chicago reported 9 dead and 14 injured in shootings. That's just one weekend. One of the wounded victims was a 7 year old girl. No big deal. Nothing to see here. It's the usual black on black crime going on.

Such blatant and disgusting political opportunism. Dimms are filthy and morally bankrupt.


There was no self defense involved in the Zimmerman case.
You can't chase people at night, block their access to their home, and call it self defense.

You should present the actual evidence of the case and not some ridiculous nonsense from your biased imagination. Pathetic

That is the synopsis. What part do you disagree with?
Did Zimmerman chase an innocent kid at night in the rain or not?
Zimmerman has to be lying when he claimed to the 9/11 operator that Martin was looking in windows, because it not only was cold and rainy, but he was carrying a bag of food and had not tools.
 
If somebody robs a beverage store an is shot by the owner, nobody can say the robber's life was stolen. He took it upon himself to surrender his life for personal desire or gain.

Fair point. But if you're planting your flag on this Zimmerman person being the subject in the tweets in question,.that poses its own question -- was the kid on the end of the bullet robbing a beverage store? Or robbing anything? I don't know the details of the event.


Martin had Zimmerman on his back pounding his head in the pavement. Martin was the aggressor and got his self killed, Zimmerman was to have acted in self defense. Martin and Zimmerman are inextricably linked to that day. Google either one and the other will appear in the story. That's why Zimmerman might have a case.


Whatever the details of that may be, nobody was named in either of the tweets in question, which is the first and biggest most obvious reason he has no case.

My post above was to ask Ray if his analogy of the store burglar applies to the shooting event. From what I'm reading it would appear it does not.


No it was assault and battery with bodily injury. Zimmerman defended himself. It's just that simple.

Once again --- the question was put to Ray, who brought up the analogy.


Once again, thugs engaging in criminal activity are fully aware there decisions could cost them everything. Ray simply used one example, there are thousands of possible scenarios.

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George Zimmerman, the onetime neighborhood watch volunteer who was acquitted in the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida, is suing Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg for $265 million, claiming both 2020 Democratic presidential candidates defamed him in an attempt to "garner votes in the black community."

The lawsuit filed in Polk County, Fla., Tuesday argues Warren and Buttigieg’s two separate tweets on Feb. 5, which would have been Martin’s 25th birthday, used the killing “as a pretext to demagogue and falsely brand Zimmerman as a white supremacist and racist to their millions of Twitter followers.”

Buttigieg tweeted to his 1.6 million followers. The message garnered 42,000 likes, 13,300 replies and 6,600 retweets in just three days, the lawsuit states.

“My heart goes out to @SybrinaFulton and Trayvon's family and friends. He should still be with us today. We need to end gun violence and racism. And we need to build a world where all of our children—especially young Black boys—can grow up safe and free,” Warren tweeted to her 3.6 million followers on the same day, sharing four photos of Trayvon Martin as a small child, between the ages of 4 and 10. The message received 7,300 likes and 1,000 retweets in three days, in addition to national media coverage, the lawsuit states.


George Zimmerman sues Warren, Buttigieg for $265M, accuses them of attempting to garner black votes by defaming him

Any chance at him winning? Who knows. I'm sure he has a lawyer that made this decision, so I'm guessing he can.

There was nothing racial about the shooting of Martin. Zimmerman, a minority himself, lived in a very diverse gated housing complex. If I remember correctly, he attended his school prom with a black girlfriend. But because he was a white-Hispanic and not black himself, the lying MSM tried to make it a racial incident.

Have the Democrats finally crossed the line with using blacks to promote their hate? We'll see. Should be a very interesting election with this in the works.


No, the audio of the 9/11 operator clearly contains Zimmerman using the 'N' word.
Zimmerman was racist, and FL Hispanics are notorious for being ultra racist.

Also Zimmerman was NOT at all a member of Neighborhood Watch.
He went to one meeting, but was rejected because he would not follow the rules.
And the rules would have prevented the situation that he caused by his criminal actions.
Neighborhood Watch never allows any of its member to patrol while armed or alone.
By violating those simple and obvious rules, and a few more, Zimmerman caused the whole scenario to occur.
It was all his fault, even if it did not necessarily prove an intent to commit 2nd degree murder.

We also now know Zimmerman is not a good guy because of all the additional violence he has been convicted of, such as domestic violence.

Zimmerman was part of the neighborhood watch, but that had nothing to do with the shooting. Zimmerman was simply going to the store. After he got in his truck, he spotted Martin. Knowing most of the people there, he knew Martin was not part of that gated community, and given the rise of home break-ins, he suspected that Martin could be one of the people involved in the crimes.

Zimmerman did the right thing. He seen a suspicious character that fit the description of the people breaking into homes, and immediately called the police. That's what you're supposed to do.

Armed wannabe cop was not authorized to pursue what he considered suspects. Being armed embolden him, and that also played a part in the tragedy, by giving that warm gun feeling of superiority. When in fact a high school kid was able to get the better of him. But I understand that. When I was in High School I could have knocked the shit out of him too.

So was Michael Brown wrongly shot too?

He was not shot by a wannabe cop who was stalking him on his way home. That cop was on the job when the confrontation happened.
 
George Zimmerman, the onetime neighborhood watch volunteer who was acquitted in the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida, is suing Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg for $265 million, claiming both 2020 Democratic presidential candidates defamed him in an attempt to "garner votes in the black community."

The lawsuit filed in Polk County, Fla., Tuesday argues Warren and Buttigieg’s two separate tweets on Feb. 5, which would have been Martin’s 25th birthday, used the killing “as a pretext to demagogue and falsely brand Zimmerman as a white supremacist and racist to their millions of Twitter followers.”

Buttigieg tweeted to his 1.6 million followers. The message garnered 42,000 likes, 13,300 replies and 6,600 retweets in just three days, the lawsuit states.

“My heart goes out to @SybrinaFulton and Trayvon's family and friends. He should still be with us today. We need to end gun violence and racism. And we need to build a world where all of our children—especially young Black boys—can grow up safe and free,” Warren tweeted to her 3.6 million followers on the same day, sharing four photos of Trayvon Martin as a small child, between the ages of 4 and 10. The message received 7,300 likes and 1,000 retweets in three days, in addition to national media coverage, the lawsuit states.


George Zimmerman sues Warren, Buttigieg for $265M, accuses them of attempting to garner black votes by defaming him

Any chance at him winning? Who knows. I'm sure he has a lawyer that made this decision, so I'm guessing he can.

There was nothing racial about the shooting of Martin. Zimmerman, a minority himself, lived in a very diverse gated housing complex. If I remember correctly, he attended his school prom with a black girlfriend. But because he was a white-Hispanic and not black himself, the lying MSM tried to make it a racial incident.

Have the Democrats finally crossed the line with using blacks to promote their hate? We'll see. Should be a very interesting election with this in the works.

I am hoping however Nick Sampson's case goes to trial and he wins at least a partial victory for the way those left wing asshole slobs treated him.

NIcholas Sandmann? He sued CNN for $250 million and they settled with him. The amount he received hasn't been divulged. He also had a lawsuit against the Washington Post but some liberal hack judge dropped the case at WAPO's request.
FYI, the same judge reopened the case.

https://nypost.com/2019/10/28/judge...dmanns-250m-suit-against-the-washington-post/

Nicholas Sandmann deserves nothing and should be charged instead.
That is because he was legally supposed to be in school at the time, and not bussed to a fake demonstration against Planned Parenthood. He himself said and did very little, but it is clear he was attempting to obstruct, as well as he was party to the group that was hurling racial hate speech.


Hey dumb fuck, he was on a school trip. Is there no lie you won't tell?

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The fact is Martin deserved killing, a jury said so. So there was no stolen 25th birthday stolen in his case.

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If somebody robs a beverage store an is shot by the owner, nobody can say the robber's life was stolen. He took it upon himself to surrender his life for personal desire or gain.

Fair point. But if you're planting your flag on this Zimmerman person being the subject in the tweets in question,.that poses its own question -- was the kid on the end of the bullet robbing a beverage store? Or robbing anything? I don't know the details of the event.

Our laws are pretty similar to those in Florida. I'm pushing 60 years old right now, and I have a lot of medical problems. If two younger built guys point to me and say "LETS GET HIM" it's irrelevant if they have a weapon or not. No law states they have to. I (as a CCW holder in my state) reserve the right to use deadly force against them. This is exactly what Zimmerman did. He was attacked, he was virtually defenseless, and used deadly force to stop the attack not knowing how far Martin would go.

This incident is 8 years old now. There is no reason for either of these politicians to use Zimmerman to promote their racial and firearm hatred. Zimmerman had to stay in low cover from all the death threats he received after the verdict. It's irresponsible and immoral to possibly resurrect those emotions in some people that could put Zimmerman in jeopardy of harm or death. So just to shut these worthless F's up, I hope this lawsuit is permitted, and no matter what the award, be enough to stop these crooked politicians from taking advantage of others misfortune for their own selfish advantage.

That's all well and good and I'm really not interested in derailing this thread to a rehash of whatever happened eight years ago. What I asked above was whether the kid was robbing aastore per your analogy.

Back on the topic, there's still no connection between either tweet and anybody named "Zimmerman". If we said "today is the anniversary of Marcus Kaarma getting 70 years in prison" and then follow it with "we have to stop gun violence", we're not saying "Marcus Karma is responsible for all gun violence". That's a leap without a bridge.

And if you actually want lawsuits to "stop crooked politicians from taking advantage of others misfortune for their own selfish advantage", that could get very interesting starting with Rump and his "he's not a hero" dropping plus countless others.

In that tweet, they used Zimmerman as an example of gun violence, racism, hate and so on. I say that's a pretty strong correlation. Let me put it another way.

"I was asked how old I thought Blindboo was." We need to stop stupid assholes from asking idiotic questions."

Now, how would you take that? Of course if I said such a thing (and I don't mean it of course, just providing an example) you would take offense to it. Would you not? Or would you say because I didn't name you personally, I was just changing subjects?

More importantly though is everybody knew who they were talking about. And again, that could create a dangerous situation for Zimmerman if the right kook read something like that. Certain people are not going to use technicalities to not act out in violence.

Okay you want the flaw? How many people have asked you how old you thought Blindboo was? Contrast that with how many incidents of gun violence, bigotry, whatever. Not a comparison.

They could have made exactly the same pander appeal if the citation had been Sandra Bland, Rodney King, Eric Garner, Amadou Diallo or whatever event fit the date. It's a time reference. Had they used, let's say, Sandra Bland, would the Houston cop who arrested her have a "defamation" case even though nobody brought his name up? See how absurd that is?
 
George Zimmerman, the onetime neighborhood watch volunteer who was acquitted in the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida, is suing Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg for $265 million, claiming both 2020 Democratic presidential candidates defamed him in an attempt to "garner votes in the black community."

The lawsuit filed in Polk County, Fla., Tuesday argues Warren and Buttigieg’s two separate tweets on Feb. 5, which would have been Martin’s 25th birthday, used the killing “as a pretext to demagogue and falsely brand Zimmerman as a white supremacist and racist to their millions of Twitter followers.”

Buttigieg tweeted to his 1.6 million followers. The message garnered 42,000 likes, 13,300 replies and 6,600 retweets in just three days, the lawsuit states.

“My heart goes out to @SybrinaFulton and Trayvon's family and friends. He should still be with us today. We need to end gun violence and racism. And we need to build a world where all of our children—especially young Black boys—can grow up safe and free,” Warren tweeted to her 3.6 million followers on the same day, sharing four photos of Trayvon Martin as a small child, between the ages of 4 and 10. The message received 7,300 likes and 1,000 retweets in three days, in addition to national media coverage, the lawsuit states.


George Zimmerman sues Warren, Buttigieg for $265M, accuses them of attempting to garner black votes by defaming him

Any chance at him winning? Who knows. I'm sure he has a lawyer that made this decision, so I'm guessing he can.

There was nothing racial about the shooting of Martin. Zimmerman, a minority himself, lived in a very diverse gated housing complex. If I remember correctly, he attended his school prom with a black girlfriend. But because he was a white-Hispanic and not black himself, the lying MSM tried to make it a racial incident.

Have the Democrats finally crossed the line with using blacks to promote their hate? We'll see. Should be a very interesting election with this in the works.


No, the audio of the 9/11 operator clearly contains Zimmerman using the 'N' word.
Zimmerman was racist, and FL Hispanics are notorious for being ultra racist.

Also Zimmerman was NOT at all a member of Neighborhood Watch.
He went to one meeting, but was rejected because he would not follow the rules.
And the rules would have prevented the situation that he caused by his criminal actions.
Neighborhood Watch never allows any of its member to patrol while armed or alone.
By violating those simple and obvious rules, and a few more, Zimmerman caused the whole scenario to occur.
It was all his fault, even if it did not necessarily prove an intent to commit 2nd degree murder.

We also now know Zimmerman is not a good guy because of all the additional violence he has been convicted of, such as domestic violence.

Not a word of truth in the above ....demonstrated by the evidence presented at the trial.

People that come on here and post such obvious lies should be banned.

Everything I wrote came from the trial transcript I read.
Clearly you did NOT read the trial transcript.
Here is the audio of the 9/11 call to refresh your memory, that proves Zimmerman was the pursuer and used the N word.


And you're still lying. He doesn't say "ni*ger", and both those men confirm he didn't use that term Liar
 
Fair point. But if you're planting your flag on this Zimmerman person being the subject in the tweets in question,.that poses its own question -- was the kid on the end of the bullet robbing a beverage store? Or robbing anything? I don't know the details of the event.


Martin had Zimmerman on his back pounding his head in the pavement. Martin was the aggressor and got his self killed, Zimmerman was to have acted in self defense. Martin and Zimmerman are inextricably linked to that day. Google either one and the other will appear in the story. That's why Zimmerman might have a case.


Whatever the details of that may be, nobody was named in either of the tweets in question, which is the first and biggest most obvious reason he has no case.

My post above was to ask Ray if his analogy of the store burglar applies to the shooting event. From what I'm reading it would appear it does not.


No it was assault and battery with bodily injury. Zimmerman defended himself. It's just that simple.

Once again --- the question was put to Ray, who brought up the analogy.


Once again, thugs engaging in criminal activity are fully aware there decisions could cost them everything. Ray simply used one example, there are thousands of possible scenarios.

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Once AGAIN --- THE QUESTION WAS FOR THE POSTER WHO MADE THE ANALOGY. YOU ARE NOT THAT POSTER AND YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR HIM. I've got three bigger fonts plus bold if that didn't get through.
 

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