Global sea ice at historic HIGHS!!!!

[skookerasbil]

What did I tell you........thread started about 5 hours ago and the AGW crowd's heads have a collective explosion!!!

They put up the same graphs they've been putting up for 2 decades.........but me thinks people can see what the satellite photo's clearly show = AGW religion fAiL. Don't forget........these people said 15 years ago that by now there would be Zero ice. Their shit isn't panning out........which is why they would remind folks of slugs darting for a tin of beer on a summer night to desperately try to throw up the same remanufactured bs weve seen in here for a long, long, long time!!!

 

[depotoo]

Data from the European Space Agency (ESA) CryoSat-2 satellite to be presented to the American Geophysical Union’s Fall Meeting in San Francisco later today (Monday 15 December, 2014) will show Arctic sea ice volumes in October and November 2014 averaging 10,200km3 – slightly down on the 10,900km3 reported in 2013 but sharply up on the lows seen in 2011 and 2012.

This is the second year in a row where a relatively cool Arctic summer has led to less sea ice melting than has been typical during the summers of recent years and this has resulted in thicker and older ice surviving into the autumn and winter during both 2013 and 2014.

The team of researchers from University College London (UCL) who are presenting the CryoSat-2 data to the AGU Fall Meeting state in the abstract of their presentation that their data indicates “the Arctic sea ice pack may be more resilient than has been previously considered”.

The autumn 2014 volume is the second-highest since satellite measurements of Arctic sea ice thickness began in 2010, and the data shows that “the five-year average is relatively stable”, according to ESA.

This news comes as the US National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) reported that Arctic sea ice extent – the area of ocean covered by sea ice – in November was “fairly average”.

- from the global warming policy foundation.

interesting to note, ice taken by satellite is only 4 years old.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So they're not really at record high...er, yeah, gaining ice means losing ice

 

[depotoo]

Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is "falling off a cliff." One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years."

From Gore's acceptance speech in 2007, nobel peace prize. So, according to the Navy all the artic ice should be gone...

And these are the guys you all believe?? Are you masochists at heart?

 

[skookerasbil]

Historic highs in ice............

And now, compelling evidence that Greenland ice may start growing in 2015 >>>

Will Greenland Begin Accumulating Ice in 2015 and Beyond Watts Up With That

Has anybody else noticed Al Gore is totally absent these days?


Even a pompous asshole like Gore can figure out when he has been made to look like a dickhead after so many failed pedictions!!!

 

[Old Rocks]

Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is "falling off a cliff." One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years."

From Gore's acceptance speech in 2007, nobel peace prize. So, according to the Navy all the artic ice should be gone...

And these are the guys you all believe?? Are you masochists at heart?

So, we have a figure that the ice could be gone in as little as 7 years or less than 22 years. So, we have 15 years to go, that would be about 2030.

Polar Science Center PIOMAS Arctic Sea Ice Volume Reanalysis




Fig.1 Arctic sea ice volume anomaly from PIOMAS updated once a month. Daily Sea Ice volume anomalies for each day are computed relative to the 1979 to 2011 average for that day of the year. Tickmarks on time axis refer to 1st day of year. The trend for the period 1979- present is shown in blue. Shaded areas show one and two standard deviations from the trend. Error bars indicate the uncertainty of the monthly anomaly plotted once per year

Well, maybe it will take ten years longer. Then, again, a dip like 2012, could make it happen for the first time, ten years sooner.

 

[Old Rocks]

Historic highs in ice............

And now, compelling evidence that Greenland ice may start growing in 2015 >>>

Will Greenland Begin Accumulating Ice in 2015 and Beyond Watts Up With That

Has anybody else noticed Al Gore is totally absent these days?


Even a pompous asshole like Gore can figure out when he has been made to look like a dickhead after so many failed pedictions!!!

Pure bullshit.

Greenland ice loss outpaces climate models

Greenland’s ice sheet shrank by an average of 243 billion tonnes a year between 2003 and 2009 – a rate of melting that is enough to raise the world’s sea levels by 0.68 mm per year.

In what is claimed as the first detailed study, geologist Beata Csatho, of the University of Buffalo in the US, and colleagues report in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that they used satellite and aerial data to reconstruct changes in the ice sheet at 100,000 places, and to confirm that the process of losing 277 cubic kilometres of ice a year is more complex than anyone had predicted.

- See more at: Greenland ice loss outpaces climate models

 

[Old Rocks]

Sustained mass loss of the northeast Greenland ice sheet triggered by regional warming

• Shfaqat A. Khan,
• Kurt H. Kjær,
• Michael Bevis,
• Jonathan L. Bamber,
• John Wahr,
• Kristian K. Kjeldsen,
• Anders A. Bjørk,
• Niels J. Korsgaard,
• Leigh A. Stearns,
• Michiel R. van den Broeke,
• Lin Liu,
• Nicolaj K. Larsen
• & Ioana S. Muresan

The Greenland ice sheet has been one of the largest contributors to global sea-level rise over the past 20 years, accounting for 0.5 mm yr−1 of a total of 3.2 mm yr−1. A significant portion of this contribution is associated with the speed-up of an increased number of glaciers in southeast and northwest Greenland. Here, we show that the northeast Greenland ice stream, which extends more than 600 km into the interior of the ice sheet, is now undergoing sustained dynamic thinning, linked to regional warming, after more than a quarter of a century of stability. This sector of the Greenland ice sheet is of particular interest, because the drainage basin area covers 16% of the ice sheet (twice that of Jakobshavn Isbræ) and numerical model predictions suggest no significant mass loss for this sector, leading to an under-estimation of future global sea-level rise. The geometry of the bedrock and monotonic trend in glacier speed-up and mass loss suggests that dynamic drawdown of ice in this region will continue in the near future.

Real scientists, not undegreed ex-TV weathermen.

 

[Old Rocks]

The team has produced elevation models for the ice sheets
Continue reading the main story
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A new assessment from Europe's CryoSat spacecraft shows Greenland to be losing about 375 cu km of ice each year.

Added to the discharges coming from Antarctica, it means Earth's two big ice sheets are now dumping roughly 500 cu km of ice in the oceans annually.

"The contribution of both ice sheets together to sea level rise has doubled since 2009," said Angelika Humbert from Germany's Alfred Wegener Institute.

"To us, that's an incredible number," she told BBC News.

In its report to The Cryosphere journal, the AWI team does not actually calculate a sea-level rise equivalent number, but if this volume is considered to be all ice (a small part will be snow) then the contribution is likely to be on the order of just over a millimetre per year.

This is the latest study to use the precision altimetry data being gathered by the European Space Agency's CryoSat platform.

More information concerning Greenland ice loss.

 

[Old Rocks]

Greenland Ice Sheet
M. Tedesco1,2, J. E. Box3, J. Cappelen4, X. Fettweis5, T. Mote6,
R. S. W. van de Wal7, C. J. P. P. Smeets7, J. Wahr8
1City College of New York, New York, NY, USA
2National Science Foundation, Arlington, VA, USA
3Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland, Copenhagen, Denmark
4Danish Meteorological Institute, Copenhagen, Denmark
5University of Liege, Liege, Belgium
6Department of Geography, University of Georgia, Athens, Georgia, USA
7Institute for Marine and Atmospheric Research Utrecht, Utrecht University, Utrecht, The Netherlands
8Department of Physics and Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences, University of Colorado, Boulder, CO, USA
Arctic Report Card - Greenland Ice Sheet - Tedesco et al.

December 2, 2014
Highlights

• Melt extent, above the 1981-2010 average for 90% of summer 2014, reached a maximum of 39.3% of the ice sheet area on 17 June 2014. The number of days of melting in June and July 2014 exceeded the 1981-2010 average over most of the ice sheet.
• Average surface mass balance (the difference between annual snow accumulation and annual melting) measured along the K-transect in west Greenland for the period 2013-2014 was slightly below the 1990-2010 average, while the equilibrium line altitude (~1,730 m a.s.l., the lowest altitude at which winter snow survived) was at a higher elevation than the 1990-2010 average of 1,545 m.
• A negligible ice mass loss of 6 Gt between June 2013 and June 2014, in contrast to the largest annual loss (474 Gt) observed in the GRACE record in 2012, indicates a slowing of the rate of ice loss.
• Average albedo during summer 2014 was the second lowest in the period of record that began in 2000; a new record low albedo occurred in August 2014.
• Summer 2014 in Greenland was the warmest on record at Kangerlussuaq, west Greenland, where the average June temperature was 2.3°C above the 1981-2010 average. In January 2014, the average temperature at Illoqqortoormiut, east Greenland and Upernavik, west Greenland were 7.5°C and 8.7°C above the 1981-2010 means, respectively.

And even more information. Not shit from WUWT.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Sustained mass loss of the northeast Greenland ice sheet triggered by regional warming

• Shfaqat A. Khan,
• Kurt H. Kjær,
• Michael Bevis,
• Jonathan L. Bamber,
• John Wahr,
• Kristian K. Kjeldsen,
• Anders A. Bjørk,
• Niels J. Korsgaard,
• Leigh A. Stearns,
• Michiel R. van den Broeke,
• Lin Liu,
• Nicolaj K. Larsen
• & Ioana S. Muresan

The Greenland ice sheet has been one of the largest contributors to global sea-level rise over the past 20 years, accounting for 0.5 mm yr−1 of a total of 3.2 mm yr−1. A significant portion of this contribution is associated with the speed-up of an increased number of glaciers in southeast and northwest Greenland. Here, we show that the northeast Greenland ice stream, which extends more than 600 km into the interior of the ice sheet, is now undergoing sustained dynamic thinning, linked to regional warming, after more than a quarter of a century of stability. This sector of the Greenland ice sheet is of particular interest, because the drainage basin area covers 16% of the ice sheet (twice that of Jakobshavn Isbræ) and numerical model predictions suggest no significant mass loss for this sector, leading to an under-estimation of future global sea-level rise. The geometry of the bedrock and monotonic trend in glacier speed-up and mass loss suggests that dynamic drawdown of ice in this region will continue in the near future.

Real scientists, not undegreed ex-TV weathermen.

"triggered by regional warming"

Guess what inst happening any more.. the ocean currents have gone cold and the undercutting warm flows have ceased to move out of the Trench...

If you took time to read the paper you would find your priceless models are WRONG as are the contentions of their authors. It seems empirical evidence is again going to show them WRONG!

 

[Old Rocks]

Sustained mass loss of the northeast Greenland ice sheet triggered by regional warming

• Shfaqat A. Khan,
• Kurt H. Kjær,
• Michael Bevis,
• Jonathan L. Bamber,
• John Wahr,
• Kristian K. Kjeldsen,
• Anders A. Bjørk,
• Niels J. Korsgaard,
• Leigh A. Stearns,
• Michiel R. van den Broeke,
• Lin Liu,
• Nicolaj K. Larsen
• & Ioana S. Muresan

The Greenland ice sheet has been one of the largest contributors to global sea-level rise over the past 20 years, accounting for 0.5 mm yr−1 of a total of 3.2 mm yr−1. A significant portion of this contribution is associated with the speed-up of an increased number of glaciers in southeast and northwest Greenland. Here, we show that the northeast Greenland ice stream, which extends more than 600 km into the interior of the ice sheet, is now undergoing sustained dynamic thinning, linked to regional warming, after more than a quarter of a century of stability. This sector of the Greenland ice sheet is of particular interest, because the drainage basin area covers 16% of the ice sheet (twice that of Jakobshavn Isbræ) and numerical model predictions suggest no significant mass loss for this sector, leading to an under-estimation of future global sea-level rise. The geometry of the bedrock and monotonic trend in glacier speed-up and mass loss suggests that dynamic drawdown of ice in this region will continue in the near future.

Real scientists, not undegreed ex-TV weathermen.

"triggered by regional warming"

Guess what inst happening any more.. the ocean currents have gone cold and the undercutting warm flows have ceased to move out of the Trench...

If you took time to read the paper you would find your priceless models are WRONG as are the contentions of their authors. It seems empirical evidence is again going to show them WRONG!

Link?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is "falling off a cliff." One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years."

From Gore's acceptance speech in 2007, nobel peace prize. So, according to the Navy all the artic ice should be gone...

And these are the guys you all believe?? Are you masochists at heart?

So, we have a figure that the ice could be gone in as little as 7 years or less than 22 years. So, we have 15 years to go, that would be about 2030.

Polar Science Center PIOMAS Arctic Sea Ice Volume Reanalysis




Fig.1 Arctic sea ice volume anomaly from PIOMAS updated once a month. Daily Sea Ice volume anomalies for each day are computed relative to the 1979 to 2011 average for that day of the year. Tickmarks on time axis refer to 1st day of year. The trend for the period 1979- present is shown in blue. Shaded areas show one and two standard deviations from the trend. Error bars indicate the uncertainty of the monthly anomaly plotted once per year

Well, maybe it will take ten years longer. Then, again, a dip like 2012, could make it happen for the first time, ten years sooner.

Again Old Crock uses a model to pronounce doom and gloom.. while empirical evidence says Nope! we have gained 2 million KL Sq in average sea ice globally.. The ocean cold phase is going to make you very upset over the next 20-30 years.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Sustained mass loss of the northeast Greenland ice sheet triggered by regional warming

• Shfaqat A. Khan,
• Kurt H. Kjær,
• Michael Bevis,
• Jonathan L. Bamber,
• John Wahr,
• Kristian K. Kjeldsen,
• Anders A. Bjørk,
• Niels J. Korsgaard,
• Leigh A. Stearns,
• Michiel R. van den Broeke,
• Lin Liu,
• Nicolaj K. Larsen
• & Ioana S. Muresan

The Greenland ice sheet has been one of the largest contributors to global sea-level rise over the past 20 years, accounting for 0.5 mm yr−1 of a total of 3.2 mm yr−1. A significant portion of this contribution is associated with the speed-up of an increased number of glaciers in southeast and northwest Greenland. Here, we show that the northeast Greenland ice stream, which extends more than 600 km into the interior of the ice sheet, is now undergoing sustained dynamic thinning, linked to regional warming, after more than a quarter of a century of stability. This sector of the Greenland ice sheet is of particular interest, because the drainage basin area covers 16% of the ice sheet (twice that of Jakobshavn Isbræ) and numerical model predictions suggest no significant mass loss for this sector, leading to an under-estimation of future global sea-level rise. The geometry of the bedrock and monotonic trend in glacier speed-up and mass loss suggests that dynamic drawdown of ice in this region will continue in the near future.

Real scientists, not undegreed ex-TV weathermen.

"triggered by regional warming"

Guess what inst happening any more.. the ocean currents have gone cold and the undercutting warm flows have ceased to move out of the Trench...

If you took time to read the paper you would find your priceless models are WRONG as are the contentions of their authors. It seems empirical evidence is again going to show them WRONG!

Link?

LINK? gawd you didn't even read the paper when linked to the first time.. are you a Parrot?

 

[Old Rocks]

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg

LOL.

 

[Old Rocks]

Sustained mass loss of the northeast Greenland ice sheet triggered by regional warming

• Shfaqat A. Khan,
• Kurt H. Kjær,
• Michael Bevis,
• Jonathan L. Bamber,
• John Wahr,
• Kristian K. Kjeldsen,
• Anders A. Bjørk,
• Niels J. Korsgaard,
• Leigh A. Stearns,
• Michiel R. van den Broeke,
• Lin Liu,
• Nicolaj K. Larsen
• & Ioana S. Muresan

The Greenland ice sheet has been one of the largest contributors to global sea-level rise over the past 20 years, accounting for 0.5 mm yr−1 of a total of 3.2 mm yr−1. A significant portion of this contribution is associated with the speed-up of an increased number of glaciers in southeast and northwest Greenland. Here, we show that the northeast Greenland ice stream, which extends more than 600 km into the interior of the ice sheet, is now undergoing sustained dynamic thinning, linked to regional warming, after more than a quarter of a century of stability. This sector of the Greenland ice sheet is of particular interest, because the drainage basin area covers 16% of the ice sheet (twice that of Jakobshavn Isbræ) and numerical model predictions suggest no significant mass loss for this sector, leading to an under-estimation of future global sea-level rise. The geometry of the bedrock and monotonic trend in glacier speed-up and mass loss suggests that dynamic drawdown of ice in this region will continue in the near future.

Real scientists, not undegreed ex-TV weathermen.

"triggered by regional warming"

Guess what inst happening any more.. the ocean currents have gone cold and the undercutting warm flows have ceased to move out of the Trench...

If you took time to read the paper you would find your priceless models are WRONG as are the contentions of their authors. It seems empirical evidence is again going to show them WRONG!

Link?

LINK? gawd you didn't even read the paper when linked to the first time.. are you a Parrot?

Steele on WUWT? I don't waste time on frauds.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So either the ice really isn't increasing, or it's due to manmade global warming

 

[depotoo]

And then again another upswing, such as what seems to be appearing, might make it that much longer.

And again, cycles come and go

. They claim, those few total scientists, they know all, yet just as was found regarding the volcanoes under the artic ice and their actual violent eruptions, discovered in 2007, that there was no way they could have been of the nature they truly were discovered to be. Yet they are absolutely sure they could not effect the rate of ice melting, sort of like they were sure the waters could not support the violent eruptions that nave occurred.
...
"Using specially designed autonomous underwater vehicles and a state-of-the-art camera and sampling system developed by Sohn and other WHOI engineers and scientists, the team uncovered evidence of violent volcanic explosions that shocked the scientific community.

“The conventional wisdom for the longest time had been that volcanoes under 4,000 m of water were under such high pressure there could never be enough gas in the magma to make them explode,” he explained.
....
shocked I tell ya, absolutely shocked!

Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is "falling off a cliff." One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years."

From Gore's acceptance speech in 2007, nobel peace prize. So, according to the Navy all the artic ice should be gone...

And these are the guys you all believe?? Are you masochists at heart?

So, we have a figure that the ice could be gone in as little as 7 years or less than 22 years. So, we have 15 years to go, that would be about 2030.

Polar Science Center PIOMAS Arctic Sea Ice Volume Reanalysis




Fig.1 Arctic sea ice volume anomaly from PIOMAS updated once a month. Daily Sea Ice volume anomalies for each day are computed relative to the 1979 to 2011 average for that day of the year. Tickmarks on time axis refer to 1st day of year. The trend for the period 1979- present is shown in blue. Shaded areas show one and two standard deviations from the trend. Error bars indicate the uncertainty of the monthly anomaly plotted once per year

Well, maybe it will take ten years longer. Then, again, a dip like 2012, could make it happen for the first time, ten years sooner.

Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is "falling off a cliff." One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years."

From Gore's acceptance speech in 2007, nobel peace prize. So, according to the Navy all the artic ice should be gone...

And these are the guys you all believe?? Are you masochists at heart?

So, we have a figure that the ice could be gone in as little as 7 years or less than 22 years. So, we have 15 years to go, that would be about 2030.

Polar Science Center PIOMAS Arctic Sea Ice Volume Reanalysis




Fig.1 Arctic sea ice volume anomaly from PIOMAS updated once a month. Daily Sea Ice volume anomalies for each day are computed relative to the 1979 to 2011 average for that day of the year. Tickmarks on time axis refer to 1st day of year. The trend for the period 1979- present is shown in blue. Shaded areas show one and two standard deviations from the trend. Error bars indicate the uncertainty of the monthly anomaly plotted once per year

Well, maybe it will take ten years longer. Then, again, a dip like 2012, could make it happen for the first time, ten years sooner.

 

[skookerasbil]

The models are a joke. Anybody not a committed AGW religion member takes one look at the history of the "models" and can see........real scientists don't mess with data. Because that's what real scientists do.

Robert Zimmerman's stuff is dizzying it is so spot on......decimates the phony/rigged models pervasive in the climate science community >>

The models are wrong Behind The Black



Global warming data FAKED by government to fit climate change fictions - NaturalNews.com


NOAA quietly revises website after getting caught in global warming lie admitting 1936 was hotter than 2012 - NaturalNews.com

Why global warming science is nothing but fraud - English pravda.ru


Fakegate The Obnoxious Fabrication of Global Warming - Forbes

 

[Billy_Bob]

Sustained mass loss of the northeast Greenland ice sheet triggered by regional warming

• Shfaqat A. Khan,
• Kurt H. Kjær,
• Michael Bevis,
• Jonathan L. Bamber,
• John Wahr,
• Kristian K. Kjeldsen,
• Anders A. Bjørk,
• Niels J. Korsgaard,
• Leigh A. Stearns,
• Michiel R. van den Broeke,
• Lin Liu,
• Nicolaj K. Larsen
• & Ioana S. Muresan

The Greenland ice sheet has been one of the largest contributors to global sea-level rise over the past 20 years, accounting for 0.5 mm yr−1 of a total of 3.2 mm yr−1. A significant portion of this contribution is associated with the speed-up of an increased number of glaciers in southeast and northwest Greenland. Here, we show that the northeast Greenland ice stream, which extends more than 600 km into the interior of the ice sheet, is now undergoing sustained dynamic thinning, linked to regional warming, after more than a quarter of a century of stability. This sector of the Greenland ice sheet is of particular interest, because the drainage basin area covers 16% of the ice sheet (twice that of Jakobshavn Isbræ) and numerical model predictions suggest no significant mass loss for this sector, leading to an under-estimation of future global sea-level rise. The geometry of the bedrock and monotonic trend in glacier speed-up and mass loss suggests that dynamic drawdown of ice in this region will continue in the near future.

Real scientists, not undegreed ex-TV weathermen.

"triggered by regional warming"

Guess what inst happening any more.. the ocean currents have gone cold and the undercutting warm flows have ceased to move out of the Trench...

If you took time to read the paper you would find your priceless models are WRONG as are the contentions of their authors. It seems empirical evidence is again going to show them WRONG!

Link?

LINK? gawd you didn't even read the paper when linked to the first time.. are you a Parrot?

Steele on WUWT? I don't waste time on frauds.

Given the last paper you linked the majority of the authors are frauds.. Odd your behavior outs you as a hypocrite.