GOA to Sue the ATF's Bump Stock Ban

[OnePercenter]

So you assume you could, but you don't really know.

How does a person find a weed guy?

The market is out there, you just need an "in"

Lol, I think just about everyone knows a "weed guy" or knows someone who does. But you are just assuming that leads to somebody who will sell you a gun, and while I'm sure it can sometimes I highly doubt it does all the time.

Fine, then you go to your bookie, or to the guy who sells sports gear out of his trunk (growing up it was "Tough Tony", he was a fence for the "family" that worked JFK).

Again, if you were really really that pissed, you could find an illegal gun.

no such thing as an illegal gun

Tell that to the NYPD if you don't go through their annoying registration process for handguns.

Tell that to the NYPD if you don't go through their annoying registration process for handguns.

It's only annoying if you have a criminal record.

 

[OnePercenter]

neither did cars. neither did our highways or the internet. back then it took quite some time to get a message 1000 miles. today it doesn't matter if next door or other side of the world. instant gratification.

it's really spoiled us to other things that simply *never* will be as "instant".

all we can do is put the context of what was intended then to todays environment. it was written to be a "living" document and as timeless as possible to avoid this bullshit you're trying to limit it to now so you can go "wah, i get my way, instantly...i millennial!" and regardless of how your inner-emo cries like a child, it may never be that "instant". it takes a lifetime to get through a lifetime.

how and why it was written is clearly documented in our history. maybe you should bitch less and learn more.

and how and why it was written was so the people could be as equally armed as the government

yea well equally armed isn't going to happen. either by law or it's just not that easy to buy fighter jets. or aircraft carriers and the like.

doesnt change the original intent,or the fact that both democrats and republicans are working together to undermine freedom

if they were working together to do that then it would have been done by now.

i can't recall the last time our parties truly "worked together".

try paying attention

currently we have democrats creating and passing socialist laws and when the repubes get control they fund and protect those laws,,,

What the fuck is a "socialist law?"

 

[progressive hunter]

and how and why it was written was so the people could be as equally armed as the government

yea well equally armed isn't going to happen. either by law or it's just not that easy to buy fighter jets. or aircraft carriers and the like.

doesnt change the original intent,or the fact that both democrats and republicans are working together to undermine freedom

if they were working together to do that then it would have been done by now.

i can't recall the last time our parties truly "worked together".

try paying attention

currently we have democrats creating and passing socialist laws and when the repubes get control they fund and protect those laws,,,

What the fuck is a "socialist law?"

HEALTHCARE,,,GUN CONTROL,,,EDUCATION,,,,,theres more if youd like

 

[OnePercenter]

yea well equally armed isn't going to happen. either by law or it's just not that easy to buy fighter jets. or aircraft carriers and the like.

doesnt change the original intent,or the fact that both democrats and republicans are working together to undermine freedom

if they were working together to do that then it would have been done by now.

i can't recall the last time our parties truly "worked together".

try paying attention

currently we have democrats creating and passing socialist laws and when the repubes get control they fund and protect those laws,,,

What the fuck is a "socialist law?"

HEALTHCARE,,,GUN CONTROL,,,EDUCATION,,,,,theres more if youd like

You like our company store healthcare?

Gun regulations are increased when one of your relatives does something stupid.

You may have a point with education, your syntax is atrocious. Of course teachers can only do so much with those that have vertical family trees.

 

[PredFan]

so anyway , you took my comment in the wrong way Pred . ---------- just a comment .

Perhaps, but I am choosing to hide my weapons and I don't take too kindly to being called a coward for doing it.

if its time to hide them , its past time to get them out and use them

You go first.

 

[WheelieAddict]

As they should. Where is the NRA on this?

 

[progressive hunter]

so anyway , you took my comment in the wrong way Pred . ---------- just a comment .

Perhaps, but I am choosing to hide my weapons and I don't take too kindly to being called a coward for doing it.

if its time to hide them , its past time to get them out and use them

You go first.

never hid them to start with

 

[progressive hunter]

As they should. Where is the NRA on this?

where they always are,,,on the side of the gun control

 

[WheelieAddict]

WHERE'S THE NRA???

Beat me to it. The NRA is a joke.

 

[WheelieAddict]

King Trump is the king of executive orders to circumvent congress and the constitution.

 

[iceberg]

and how and why it was written was so the people could be as equally armed as the government

yea well equally armed isn't going to happen. either by law or it's just not that easy to buy fighter jets. or aircraft carriers and the like.

doesnt change the original intent,or the fact that both democrats and republicans are working together to undermine freedom

if they were working together to do that then it would have been done by now.

i can't recall the last time our parties truly "worked together".

try paying attention

currently we have democrats creating and passing socialist laws and when the repubes get control they fund and protect those laws,,,

What the fuck is a "socialist law?"

the kind he likes to make up as he goes.

 

[PredFan]

so anyway , you took my comment in the wrong way Pred . ---------- just a comment .

Perhaps, but I am choosing to hide my weapons and I don't take too kindly to being called a coward for doing it.

if its time to hide them , its past time to get them out and use them

You go first.

never hid them to start with

Irrelevant. Get out and use them, or are you just a keyboard warror?

 

[progressive hunter]

so anyway , you took my comment in the wrong way Pred . ---------- just a comment .

Perhaps, but I am choosing to hide my weapons and I don't take too kindly to being called a coward for doing it.

if its time to hide them , its past time to get them out and use them

You go first.

never hid them to start with

Irrelevant. Get out and use them, or are you just a keyboard warror?

thanks for stopping by

 

[busybee01]

not going to offer a lot of support for a device designed to get around automatic weapons being illegal.

you could do what most who really care will do - use a rubber band.

under the original intent of the 2nd full auto is perfectly legal

This business about original intent is so much bullshit. Bump stocks did not exist when the founding fathers were alive so the idea they would allow it is so much bullshit. The day you create a time machine so you can go back and ask them is when you can talk about original intent.

under original intent it meant the people would be as equally armed as the government that might oppress them

Banning bump stocks is not oppressing anyone.

thats just your opinion, its what it leads to thats the problem,,

and if its a toy like so many claim whats the problem??

I am sure you dont want a government that rules from the barrel of a gun when you cant have one,,,those republicans are some evil POS's

That is the opinion of a majority of Americans. What you are using is the same old tired argument. You have nothing to offer but fear itself.

It hardly is a toy.

By that logic, you should be able to own a tank and bombs. A bump stock is not a gun.

 

[busybee01]

It is a fact. A bump stock is not required to use a rifle.

Lol
Irrelevant, Fucking pieces of shit control freaks like yourselves need to shut the fuck up

Try and make me. You should be locked in a insane asylum because you are a crazy right wing nut. It is very relevant. Banning bump stocks has nothing to do with owning a weapon.

Lol
There is no reason to ban bump stocks other than political correctness… So shut the fuck up

You shut the fuck up. There is every reason to ban bump stocks and any device or modification which causes a semi-automatic to act like a automatic weapon. A 5 year minimum prison sentence should be added

Lol
Na, not really
Political correctness has made you into a retard

You are the retard. I am the one who has common sense.

 

[busybee01]

And , i am a member of both the NRA and GOA and i'll be sending GOA a Hundred bucks to fight the Bump Stock Ban today . And others should do the same !!

not going to offer a lot of support for a device designed to get around automatic weapons being illegal.

you could do what most who really care will do - use a rubber band.

under the original intent of the 2nd full auto is perfectly legal

This business about original intent is so much bullshit. Bump stocks did not exist when the founding fathers were alive so the idea they would allow it is so much bullshit. The day you create a time machine so you can go back and ask them is when you can talk about original intent.

neither did cars. neither did our highways or the internet. back then it took quite some time to get a message 1000 miles. today it doesn't matter if next door or other side of the world. instant gratification.

it's really spoiled us to other things that simply *never* will be as "instant".

all we can do is put the context of what was intended then to todays environment. it was written to be a "living" document and as timeless as possible to avoid this bullshit you're trying to limit it to now so you can go "wah, i get my way, instantly...i millennial!" and regardless of how your inner-emo cries like a child, it may never be that "instant". it takes a lifetime to get through a lifetime.

how and why it was written is clearly documented in our history. maybe you should bitch less and learn more.

Maybe you need to learn something. The founding fathers dealt with the ownership of guns that fired one shot at a time. You really have no clue what you are talking about. The founding fathers were not talking about bump stocks or any other device you can think off. That is up the the states and federal government to regulate.

 

[busybee01]

not going to offer a lot of support for a device designed to get around automatic weapons being illegal.

you could do what most who really care will do - use a rubber band.

under the original intent of the 2nd full auto is perfectly legal

This business about original intent is so much bullshit. Bump stocks did not exist when the founding fathers were alive so the idea they would allow it is so much bullshit. The day you create a time machine so you can go back and ask them is when you can talk about original intent.

under original intent it meant the people would be as equally armed as the government that might oppress them

Banning bump stocks is not oppressing anyone.

it's not helping anything either. again, for those who just go BAN - BAM; PROBLEM SOLVED they're stupid. a freaking rubber band will do the very same thing and now this "ban" makes people want things, or something like it, for no other reason than they were told they can't have it.

human nature in as much as having to ban shit.

so tell me, what does this change for anyone who really wants to do this and what does this "ban" accomplish towards slowing down gun violence?

Then any modification of a weapon that makes it behave like a automatic weapon should be banned and the perpetrator jailed for a minimum of 5 years.

 

[progressive hunter]

And , i am a member of both the NRA and GOA and i'll be sending GOA a Hundred bucks to fight the Bump Stock Ban today . And others should do the same !!

not going to offer a lot of support for a device designed to get around automatic weapons being illegal.

you could do what most who really care will do - use a rubber band.

under the original intent of the 2nd full auto is perfectly legal

This business about original intent is so much bullshit. Bump stocks did not exist when the founding fathers were alive so the idea they would allow it is so much bullshit. The day you create a time machine so you can go back and ask them is when you can talk about original intent.

neither did cars. neither did our highways or the internet. back then it took quite some time to get a message 1000 miles. today it doesn't matter if next door or other side of the world. instant gratification.

it's really spoiled us to other things that simply *never* will be as "instant".

all we can do is put the context of what was intended then to todays environment. it was written to be a "living" document and as timeless as possible to avoid this bullshit you're trying to limit it to now so you can go "wah, i get my way, instantly...i millennial!" and regardless of how your inner-emo cries like a child, it may never be that "instant". it takes a lifetime to get through a lifetime.

how and why it was written is clearly documented in our history. maybe you should bitch less and learn more.

Maybe you need to learn something. The founding fathers dealt with the ownership of guns that fired one shot at a time. You really have no clue what you are talking about. The founding fathers were not talking about bump stocks or any other device you can think off. That is up the the states and federal government to regulate.

the founders were talking about the people being as equally armed as the government


and shall not be infringed is the supreme law of the land and the states have no say


sorry but your fascist communist claims fall flat as your wifes chest

 

[progressive hunter]

under the original intent of the 2nd full auto is perfectly legal

This business about original intent is so much bullshit. Bump stocks did not exist when the founding fathers were alive so the idea they would allow it is so much bullshit. The day you create a time machine so you can go back and ask them is when you can talk about original intent.

under original intent it meant the people would be as equally armed as the government that might oppress them

Banning bump stocks is not oppressing anyone.

it's not helping anything either. again, for those who just go BAN - BAM; PROBLEM SOLVED they're stupid. a freaking rubber band will do the very same thing and now this "ban" makes people want things, or something like it, for no other reason than they were told they can't have it.

human nature in as much as having to ban shit.

so tell me, what does this change for anyone who really wants to do this and what does this "ban" accomplish towards slowing down gun violence?

Then any modification of a weapon that makes it behave like a automatic weapon should be banned and the perpetrator jailed for a minimum of 5 years.

that would violate the 2nd amendment

 

[busybee01]

A journey of a thousand bans begins with but a single step Comrade.

If it was a gun they were banning, I'd be upset.

But is just a needless accessory. ....

I have no interest in bump stocks. I have used them before and they are nothing more than silly range toy.

However, two things I don't like about the ban:

There are hundreds of thousands of bump stocks in this country and the idiot oppressive government has banned them because one person used them in crime. Despicable!

The Constitution says very clearly that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Bans and restrictions on arms, even bump stocks, is a clear violation of the law.

It is not a clear violation of the law. The 2nd Amendment deals with guns not accessories and restrictions on accessories have been upheld.