Got a real serious question for white folk....honestly

[Faun]

No sidestepping involved.

Sure, some lefties and blacks bought the hype.

But Obama isn't being judged on that.

The vast majority of those that voted based on that, are still with him and not "judging" him.

His critics are the ones that have ideological and partisan issues with him, and didn't buy that hype and didn't vote for him.

They are judging him by the same standards they judged BIll Clinton, not some "higher standard".

Its like you cant defend wanting Obama to bring racial harmony so you act like I never said it and opt to talk about something completely different.

Peace...I got shit to do

I clearly referred to the "hype", as in all that crazy stuff. NOt sure what you thought I was referring to if not what we were talking about.

You say "the hype" and I'm talking about being in about racial harmony. But you know that racial harmony was never included in "the hype"

I know no such thing. There was a lot of hype, and most of it was oddly vague.

The idea that he would be "post racial" did seem crazy hype to me, especially after he started playing race just like every other dem candidate.

And those that bought that, are not the ones being so harshly critical of him today. They may still be upset, but they are standing by their man.

Did he promise to be post racial? What hype did you see you can link to that shoes this post racial promise by him?

Answer: none, you made it up to hold him to an unachievable standard. And blames him for not bringing about this unachievable standard

I don't know that it was a promise, but he certainly made note of it when he pointed

The reason that Barack Obama is being held to a higher standard than other Presidents before him is that one of the things he ran on was his ability to be the first "post racial" President...the one who was going to be able to move beyond partisan racial politics and bring the country together. On that note, Tiger...he's failed in rather epic fashion. Barry has a knack for saying things that inflame racial tension. It seems like he can't help himself.

nah----it's just the fact that he is black------that he is black IS A FACTOR-----in the tension between the
races-----not his fault------it is just an existing fact

Let's be honest here...Barack Obama is half black and half white. He was raised in large part by two elderly white people from Kansas! He "should" be able to see both sides of issues but unfortunately for him he's not come across that way at all. Every time there is a black/white issue...he makes statements that he really shouldn't. As I said before...it's like he can't help himself.

Obama as a black man living in America, could not as so many white presidents have before him, stick his effin head in the sand and pretend nothing is happening around him concerning unarmed black men being murdered at high rates in this country. He had no choice and for that, I am proud to call him my president and so should you.

Obama will never be MY President. He is President of the black man.

That only means you're not American.

 

[Steinlight]

Its like you cant defend wanting Obama to bring racial harmony so you act like I never said it and opt to talk about something completely different.

Peace...I got shit to do

I clearly referred to the "hype", as in all that crazy stuff. NOt sure what you thought I was referring to if not what we were talking about.

You say "the hype" and I'm talking about being in about racial harmony. But you know that racial harmony was never included in "the hype"

I know no such thing. There was a lot of hype, and most of it was oddly vague.

The idea that he would be "post racial" did seem crazy hype to me, especially after he started playing race just like every other dem candidate.

And those that bought that, are not the ones being so harshly critical of him today. They may still be upset, but they are standing by their man.

Did he promise to be post racial? What hype did you see you can link to that shoes this post racial promise by him?

Answer: none, you made it up to hold him to an unachievable standard. And blames him for not bringing about this unachievable standard

I don't know that it was a promise, but he certainly made note of it when he pointed

The reason that Barack Obama is being held to a higher standard than other Presidents before him is that one of the things he ran on was his ability to be the first "post racial" President...the one who was going to be able to move beyond partisan racial politics and bring the country together. On that note, Tiger...he's failed in rather epic fashion. Barry has a knack for saying things that inflame racial tension. It seems like he can't help himself.

nah----it's just the fact that he is black------that he is black IS A FACTOR-----in the tension between the
races-----not his fault------it is just an existing fact

Let's be honest here...Barack Obama is half black and half white. He was raised in large part by two elderly white people from Kansas! He "should" be able to see both sides of issues but unfortunately for him he's not come across that way at all. Every time there is a black/white issue...he makes statements that he really shouldn't. As I said before...it's like he can't help himself.

Obama as a black man living in America, could not as so many white presidents have before him, stick his effin head in the sand and pretend nothing is happening around him concerning unarmed black men being murdered at high rates in this country. He had no choice and for that, I am proud to call him my president and so should you.

Obama will never be MY President. He is President of the black man.

That only means you're not American.

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.

Seriously fuck that nigga.

 

[Disir]

What's funny HereWeGoAgain ?

Crime is decreasing. Why don't you know that?


Uniform Crime Reporting Statistics

And why do you suppose thats happening?

Um.....you laughed at the suggestion. You now want to go into causes as though you knew crime is decreasing.

You seem confused. If you have an answer to that question...I suggest that you write it up and submit it to a university. We are all looking for it.

I would like to say something here. Those statistics are unreliable. Reporting is not mandatory.

Secondly, there have been several areas that have been forced into downsizing their police force. They just don't have the staff to make arrests. I started noticing this reading through several different areas. It's a problem when looking just at numbers.

 

[The Professor]

It is fact, since Obama took office, gun sales in this nation soured to unprecedented levels, mostly in white communities, waiting and hoping for a race war.

You assume that the reason for increased gun sales is anticipation of a race war. I believe you are wrong. From what I have read, gun sales soared because people had reason to believe that the Obama administration was going to place severe restriction on gun purchasing/ownership. It's one of those “buy 'em while you can” things.

 

[MarcATL]

Time and time again, its being said that Obama is responsible for the racist tension we have in this country, that he and he alone has somehow created the environment for all this racial discard. It is fact, since Obama took office, gun sales in this nation soured to unprecedented levels, mostly in white communities, waiting and hoping for a race war. I've always contended however, with who? Since 80% of black men in this country is sleeping with them, but that's another debate.....so here's my question:

Please remind us all, exactly when was race relations in the this country ever good? Yaw acting like prior to Obama, we was all holding hands and singing happy christian songs while embracing the american flag....so do remind those of us who blinked and missed those moments, when was race relations ever ever ever good in this country?????

"gun sales in this nation soured to unprecedented levels, mostly in white communities,"

There are no dun stores in black communities. So it' stand to reason that most sales are made in white communities....dumbass!

Good observation!

Why is it that there arent any gun stores In black Communities?

 

[MarcATL]

Race relations were not good because of the race baiters such as Jackson and Sharpton. The problem with Obama is that he is the first clean, articulate black man to come around. WE thought he would make things better. WE thought he had the best chance of anyone considering he grew up "white." We thought that the election of a black president would ease race relations but exactly the opposite has happened. As it is always with liberals.

He let a perfect teachable moment slip right through his fingers.

Intentional? Looks like it from where I sit.

Who were his supposed students?

Anyone who was paying attention.

Cop out.

Who do you think needed to be taught something by the POTUS? Come on, dummy....spit it out.

Cop Out is the Republican way of life.

 

[MarcATL]

The reason that Barack Obama is being held to a higher standard than other Presidents before him is that one of the things he ran on was his ability to be the first "post racial" President...the one who was going to be able to move beyond partisan racial politics and bring the country together. On that note, Tiger...he's failed in rather epic fashion. Barry has a knack for saying things that inflame racial tension. It seems like he can't help himself.

the president has zero ability to do anything with bigots. the "racial tension" is caused by their hatred. not by anything he did.

There was high hope that Obama could soothe (not cure) some divisiveness. Instead he seems to pour gas on the flames. I suspect he is frustrated and just doesn't give a fuck.

Give an example or two of how you expected Obama to "soothe" racial tension?

 

[MarcATL]

Race relations were not good because of the race baiters such as Jackson and Sharpton. The problem with Obama is that he is the first clean, articulate black man to come around. WE thought he would make things better. WE thought he had the best chance of anyone considering he grew up "white." We thought that the election of a black president would ease race relations but exactly the opposite has happened. As it is always with liberals.

He let a perfect teachable moment slip right through his fingers.

Intentional? Looks like it from where I sit.

Who were his supposed students?

Anyone who was paying attention.

Cop out.

Who do you think needed to be taught something by the POTUS? Come on, dummy....spit it out.

obama is the one who claimed he was going to be post-racial. He had opportunities and instead of trying to bring folks together he poked and prattled, causing further division. So sad for you that all you can do is sit there drooling and stammering 'uh, duh, who needed to be taught something'. Moron.

Post a link of Obama stating that he's post-racial.

 

[oldernwiser]

race relations were never actually "GOOD"-----I think that
there are all kinds of manifestations of bad race relations ---
affected by all kinds of factors. Obama as president is
just another "factor"----------I have no idea why you imagine
that people are "waiting for a race war" I do have a sense
that crime, in general, is increasing----especially property crime including violent property crime because of a somewhat lousy
economy[/QUOTE]

A sense yes, but not the objective data which you can find here and which shows that property crime, violent property crime, and violent crime including murder have all been declining through the years 2008 through 2012 (DOJ hasn't published data beyond 2012 yet). And I think that the president's race is a red herring.

 

[oldernwiser]

The reason that Barack Obama is being held to a higher standard than other Presidents before him is that one of the things he ran on was his ability to be the first "post racial" President...the one who was going to be able to move beyond partisan racial politics and bring the country together. On that note, Tiger...he's failed in rather epic fashion. Barry has a knack for saying things that inflame racial tension. It seems like he can't help himself.

So, as long as he keeps his mouth shut and doesn't get all uppity, things are great, right? It's when he tells us that even a future president has to run a racial gauntlet that things fall apart? Is it just that you can't handle a viewpoint that doesn't match what you see through your rose colored glasses?

 

[eots]

Time and time again, its being said that Obama is responsible for the racist tension we have in this country, that he and he alone has somehow created the environment for all this racial discard. It is fact, since Obama took office, gun sales in this nation soured to unprecedented levels, mostly in white communities, waiting and hoping for a race war. I've always contended however, with who? Since 80% of black men in this country is sleeping with them, but that's another debate.....so here's my question:

Please remind us all, exactly when was race relations in the this country ever good? Yaw acting like prior to Obama, we was all holding hands and singing happy christian songs while embracing the american flag....so do remind those of us who blinked and missed those moments, when was race relations ever ever ever good in this country?????

 

[oldernwiser]

Race relations were not good because of the race baiters such as Jackson and Sharpton. The problem with Obama is that he is the first clean, articulate black man to come around. WE thought he would make things better. WE thought he had the best chance of anyone considering he grew up "white." We thought that the election of a black president would ease race relations but exactly the opposite has happened. As it is always with liberals.

I'd really like to know how a black (or even a white) president can "ease racial relations" without actually talking about them. And if he's going to have to discuss touchy subjects, how does he do it without being open and honest? As it is with most HUMANS, we hate it when the picture we carry of how our world works is different from the proof that it isn't that way at all. It's how we handle the revelation that defines us.

 

[eots]

 

[oldernwiser]

Time and time again, its being said that Obama is responsible for the racist tension we have in this country, that he and he alone has somehow created the environment for all this racial discard. It is fact, since Obama took office, gun sales in this nation soured to unprecedented levels, mostly in white communities, waiting and hoping for a race war. I've always contended however, with who? Since 80% of black men in this country is sleeping with them, but that's another debate.....so here's my question:

Please remind us all, exactly when was race relations in the this country ever good? Yaw acting like prior to Obama, we was all holding hands and singing happy christian songs while embracing the american flag....so do remind those of us who blinked and missed those moments, when was race relations ever ever ever good in this country?????

Not exactly a Christian song - but they did hold hands for a second. Hard to be sure because the scene was pretty dark... could have been stunt doubles.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Race relations were not good because of the race baiters such as Jackson and Sharpton. The problem with Obama is that he is the first clean, articulate black man to come around. WE thought he would make things better. WE thought he had the best chance of anyone considering he grew up "white." We thought that the election of a black president would ease race relations but exactly the opposite has happened. As it is always with liberals.

He let a perfect teachable moment slip right through his fingers.

Intentional? Looks like it from where I sit.

Who were his supposed students?

Anyone who was paying attention.

Cop out.

Who do you think needed to be taught something by the POTUS? Come on, dummy....spit it out.

obama is the one who claimed he was going to be post-racial. He had opportunities and instead of trying to bring folks together he poked and prattled, causing further division. So sad for you that all you can do is sit there drooling and stammering 'uh, duh, who needed to be taught something'. Moron.

None of you cowards will say what you think. You idiots think he needed to teach the ******* how to behave so we could have racial harmony. That's what you mean when you say he missed on his "teachable moment".

Even you think it sounds ridiculous....so you can't bring yourself to say it.

 

[Freewill]

When Obama was first elected, the Republicans openly stated that they wanted to make him a one term president and set out on that particular path, and they bad mouthed and tore down Obama at every chance they had, even when he supported something they had supported just a couple of months prior.

And...................the country's population heard them, and decided to take up the rhetoric that the GOP had started to lay out, only most people in this country aren't politically gifted, and so instead of denouncing Obama with polite words, they drifted into bigoted rhetoric, and in doing so, managed to roll back race relations quite a bit.

What president has not had exactly the same said about them? Your were around for at least Clinton and Bush were you not? And Carter and Bush Sr. were actually one term Presidents. I am not sure who is more racist, those who say Obama is no good because he is black or those who say Obama should not receive criticism because he is black. Maybe it is a tie.

 

[Freewill]

Race relations were not good because of the race baiters such as Jackson and Sharpton. The problem with Obama is that he is the first clean, articulate black man to come around. WE thought he would make things better. WE thought he had the best chance of anyone considering he grew up "white." We thought that the election of a black president would ease race relations but exactly the opposite has happened. As it is always with liberals.

Man....that is such an unintelligent POV that I am actually disappointed in you.

Well I will have to take that comment seriously since you are the self appointed judge of POVs.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Race relations were not good because of the race baiters such as Jackson and Sharpton. The problem with Obama is that he is the first clean, articulate black man to come around. WE thought he would make things better. WE thought he had the best chance of anyone considering he grew up "white." We thought that the election of a black president would ease race relations but exactly the opposite has happened. As it is always with liberals.

Man....that is such an unintelligent POV that I am actually disappointed in you.

Well I will have to take that comment seriously since you are the self appointed judge of POVs.

Im qualified for the position. All it takes is common sense and intellectual honesty.

 

[oldernwiser]

When Obama was first elected, the Republicans openly stated that they wanted to make him a one term president and set out on that particular path, and they bad mouthed and tore down Obama at every chance they had, even when he supported something they had supported just a couple of months prior.

And...................the country's population heard them, and decided to take up the rhetoric that the GOP had started to lay out, only most people in this country aren't politically gifted, and so instead of denouncing Obama with polite words, they drifted into bigoted rhetoric, and in doing so, managed to roll back race relations quite a bit.

What president has not had exactly the same said about them? Your were around for at least Clinton and Bush were you not? And Carter and Bush Sr. were actually one term Presidents. I am not sure who is more racist, those who say Obama is no good because he is black or those who say Obama should not receive criticism because he is black. Maybe it is a tie.

I know - it's such a small difference: hoping it to be the case and actively working against public interests to make it so. And since that didn't work, now that Obama has related his own life experience (as a black male), racist conservatives can paint him as a race-baiter too. You guys will do ANYTHING but fix a problem unless it relates to taking away guns or adding more taxes.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Obama got the job because he was black.

AND EVERY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM GOT THE JOB BECAUSE THEY WAS WHITE....NEXT STUPID COMMENT?

That absurd. Every President before Obama got the job because they were qualified.