Governing by ransom.

[Norman]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

If a parent robs a bank, and the dies, and the crime is discovered.

I don't think the kid gets to keep the earnings because "he committed no crime".

What a stupid argument. The fact that they are illegally here means they need to be deported.

Talk about an idiotic argument... get a mirror

Amazing rebuttal! I am absolutely convinced now that there was a mistake in the argument, and not that someone was butthurt about the conclusions.

 

[Slade3200]

If a parent robs a bank, and the dies, and the crime is discovered.

I don't think the kid gets to keep the earnings because "he committed no crime".

What a stupid argument. The fact that they are illegally here means they need to be deported.

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

 

[bripat9643]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

I don't recall you douchebags crying when Obama held the entire country up for ransom.

 

[bgrouse]

If a parent robs a bank, and the dies, and the crime is discovered.

I don't think the kid gets to keep the earnings because "he committed no crime".

What a stupid argument. The fact that they are illegally here means they need to be deported.

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

 

[Slade3200]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

If a parent robs a bank, and the dies, and the crime is discovered.

I don't think the kid gets to keep the earnings because "he committed no crime".

What a stupid argument. The fact that they are illegally here means they need to be deported.

Talk about an idiotic argument... get a mirror

Amazing rebuttal! I am absolutely convinced now that there was a mistake in the argument, and not that someone was butthurt about the conclusions.

Sometimes these false equivalency idotic arguments like yours don’t deserve a rebuttal. But I gave one in my next post

 

[Slade3200]

If a parent robs a bank, and the dies, and the crime is discovered.

I don't think the kid gets to keep the earnings because "he committed no crime".

What a stupid argument. The fact that they are illegally here means they need to be deported.

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. Fucking amazing that you don’t get it.

 

[beagle9]

I guess there is such a thing as holding something or someone as a political hostage over a political decision is what is attempted to be inferred here. Don't believe it was the case, but the Demon-crats have tried as always to back Trump into a corner, so here comes the art of the deal.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

The DACA supporters are racist cretins

 

[beagle9]

If a parent robs a bank, and the dies, and the crime is discovered.

I don't think the kid gets to keep the earnings because "he committed no crime".

What a stupid argument. The fact that they are illegally here means they need to be deported.

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. Fucking amazing that you don’t get it.

. All the Demon-crats have to do, is to do the right thing, and guess what everyone wins.

 

[Norman]

If a parent robs a bank, and the dies, and the crime is discovered.

I don't think the kid gets to keep the earnings because "he committed no crime".

What a stupid argument. The fact that they are illegally here means they need to be deported.

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. Fucking amazing that you don’t get it.

So your argument is now: "But muh feelz!"

Your retorts just keep getting more and more brilliant by the post!

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

If a parent robs a bank, and the dies, and the crime is discovered.

I don't think the kid gets to keep the earnings because "he committed no crime".

What a stupid argument. The fact that they are illegally here means they need to be deported.

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. Fucking amazing that you don’t get it.

there are 7 billion people in the world, how many do we have to support before we go bankrupt

 

[bripat9643]

If a parent robs a bank, and the dies, and the crime is discovered.

I don't think the kid gets to keep the earnings because "he committed no crime".

What a stupid argument. The fact that they are illegally here means they need to be deported.

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. Fucking amazing that you don’t get it.

Since you're so concerned about them, then you should call your Congressman and tell him to agree to fund Trump's border wall and to end chain migration. If he isn't willing to do that, then we know he doesn't really give a flying fuck about the DACA kids. He just wants to bring in as many illegals as possible.

 

[beagle9]

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. Fucking amazing that you don’t get it.

there are 7 billion people in the world, how many do we have to support before we go bankrupt

. There is no end to free money with the liberals... They goaanaa save da werld with our money.

 

[Slade3200]

I guess there is such a thing as holding something or someone as a political hostage over a political decision is what is attempted to be inferred here. Don't believe it was the case, but the Demon-crats have tried as always to back Trump into a corner, so here comes the art of the deal.

The problem with this “deal” is that the Republicans now need 60 votes to pass anything which means they need Dems. And when nothing gets done the Republicans and Trump will take the blame. That’s when the balance of power flips back to the Dems. We just saw it happen over the past 8 years to put the Reps in power and it is getting ready to happen again

 

[Norman]

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. Fucking amazing that you don’t get it.

Since you're so concerned about them, then you should call your Congressman and tell him to agree to fund Trump's border wall and to end chain migration. If he isn't willing to do that, then we know he doesn't really give a flying fuck about the DACA kids. He just wants to bring in as many illegals as possible.

I have my doubts that this person cares even about his own kids. Single motherhood, public schools and other child torture is for sure in the menu.

So while it's always good fun arguing, indeed, the only thing he cares about is bringing in more hard-left voters, so that the workers can be looted for his benefit.

 

[Slade3200]

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. Fucking amazing that you don’t get it.

So your argument is now: "But muh feelz!"

Your retorts just keep getting more and more brilliant by the post!

What are you talking about? Do you really not understand my argument or aren’t you just being an ass?

 

[Slade3200]

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. Fucking amazing that you don’t get it.

there are 7 billion people in the world, how many do we have to support before we go bankrupt

How much are the DACA people costing us?

 

[Norman]

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. Fucking amazing that you don’t get it.

So your argument is now: "But muh feelz!"

Your retorts just keep getting more and more brilliant by the post!

What are you talking about? Do you really not understand my argument or aren’t you just being an ass?

I perfectly understood your argument. It was that you feel sorry for the kids so it doesn't matter that they are here illegally.

What a stupid argument. In fact, it's not even an argument, your feelings are not an argument.

 

[Wyatt earp]

If a parent robs a bank, and the dies, and the crime is discovered.

I don't think the kid gets to keep the earnings because "he committed no crime".

What a stupid argument. The fact that they are illegally here means they need to be deported.

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. Fucking amazing that you don’t get it.

Uhm it's punishment to the African Americans who wouldn't mind picking cotton for $15 bucks an hour but the damn illegal Mexicans will do it for $5 bucks an hour..


Do you see the problem.

 

[beagle9]

I guess there is such a thing as holding something or someone as a political hostage over a political decision is what is attempted to be inferred here. Don't believe it was the case, but the Demon-crats have tried as always to back Trump into a corner, so here comes the art of the deal.

The problem with this “deal” is that the Republicans now need 60 votes to pass anything which means they need Dems. And when nothing gets done the Republicans and Trump will take the blame. That’s when the balance of power flips back to the Dems. We just saw it happen over the past 8 years to put the Reps in power and it is getting ready to happen again

. So you like Washington corruption and power plays ? You like worrying about others besides Americans ?? Are you an American ?