Government Spending On Health Care In Switzerland

[Rustic]

There are many reasons health care is expensive here, you can't see any of them because you want others to pay your way. We get it.

The bottom line is single payer would ultimately cost the United States less money and it would create a healthier society because of preventative care. I imagine you probably think of yourself as a conservative; that's ironic considering you support the more expensive healthcare system.

Bottom line, the career politicians and their federal government are a bunch of fuckups... Do you want a bunch of fuckups trying to take care of you??
Lol

No thank you!!

 

[Rustic]

Government spending on health care in Switzerland is only 2.7 percent of GDP, by far the lowest in the developed world. By contrast, in 2008, U.S. government spending on health care was 7.4 percent of GDP. If the U.S. could move its state health spending to Swiss levels, it would save more than $700 billion a year.

'Course that would deprive insurance companies of massive annual profits...Can't Have That!!

It should not be up to the federal government to pay for healthcare, it's not a right...

Public school used to not be a "right" either,

Thats a roaring success isnt it...if increasing ignorance was the goal

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

Go look at tests from then and tests today ...........ignorance abounds.......

Thanks to socialism...
Lol

 

[Dovahkiin]

Government spending on health care in Switzerland is only 2.7 percent of GDP, by far the lowest in the developed world. By contrast, in 2008, U.S. government spending on health care was 7.4 percent of GDP. If the U.S. could move its state health spending to Swiss levels, it would save more than $700 billion a year.

'Course that would deprive insurance companies of massive annual profits...Can't Have That!!

It should not be up to the federal government to pay for healthcare, it's not a right...

Public school used to not be a "right" either,

Thats a roaring success isnt it...if increasing ignorance was the goal

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

I wouldn't be too quick about calling public ed a roaring success. People should be able to keep their tax dollars and spend them at public or private ed, their choice!

I don't think you understand how public schools work. States need tax dollars to fund public schools, how do you propose they get them if they stop collecting? The us govt could always give the states dollars to cover the gap, but I doubt conservatives want that to happen.

 

[Dovahkiin]

Government spending on health care in Switzerland is only 2.7 percent of GDP, by far the lowest in the developed world. By contrast, in 2008, U.S. government spending on health care was 7.4 percent of GDP. If the U.S. could move its state health spending to Swiss levels, it would save more than $700 billion a year.

'Course that would deprive insurance companies of massive annual profits...Can't Have That!!

It should not be up to the federal government to pay for healthcare, it's not a right...

Public school used to not be a "right" either,

Thats a roaring success isnt it...if increasing ignorance was the goal

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

You're joking, right?

History doesn't lie. How many people were able to read before public schooling swept across America? How many knew basic math?

 

[Dovahkiin]

Government spending on health care in Switzerland is only 2.7 percent of GDP, by far the lowest in the developed world. By contrast, in 2008, U.S. government spending on health care was 7.4 percent of GDP. If the U.S. could move its state health spending to Swiss levels, it would save more than $700 billion a year.

'Course that would deprive insurance companies of massive annual profits...Can't Have That!!

It should not be up to the federal government to pay for healthcare, it's not a right...

Public school used to not be a "right" either,

Thats a roaring success isnt it...if increasing ignorance was the goal

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

Go look at tests from then and tests today ...........ignorance abounds.......

Tests at private schools for a few who could afford it?

 

[Rustic]

It should not be up to the federal government to pay for healthcare, it's not a right...

Public school used to not be a "right" either,

Thats a roaring success isnt it...if increasing ignorance was the goal

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

I wouldn't be too quick about calling public ed a roaring success. People should be able to keep their tax dollars and spend them at public or private ed, their choice!

I don't think you understand how public schools work. States need tax dollars to fund public schools, how do you propose they get them if they stop collecting? The us govt could always give the states dollars to cover the gap, but I doubt conservatives want that to happen.

That whole system is FUBARed there is no saving it, just like the country's tax, spend and print policies. The country has passed the point of no return.

 

[Dovahkiin]

Public school used to not be a "right" either,

Thats a roaring success isnt it...if increasing ignorance was the goal

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

I wouldn't be too quick about calling public ed a roaring success. People should be able to keep their tax dollars and spend them at public or private ed, their choice!

I don't think you understand how public schools work. States need tax dollars to fund public schools, how do you propose they get them if they stop collecting? The us govt could always give the states dollars to cover the gap, but I doubt conservatives want that to happen.

That whole system is FUBARed there is no saving it, just like the country's tax, spend and print policies. The country has passed the point of no return.

No, it hasn't. We're nowhere near maximum output, we can spend freely.

 

[Iceweasel]

It should not be up to the federal government to pay for healthcare, it's not a right...

Public school used to not be a "right" either,

Thats a roaring success isnt it...if increasing ignorance was the goal

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

I wouldn't be too quick about calling public ed a roaring success. People should be able to keep their tax dollars and spend them at public or private ed, their choice!

I don't think you understand how public schools work. States need tax dollars to fund public schools, how do you propose they get them if they stop collecting? The us govt could always give the states dollars to cover the gap, but I doubt conservatives want that to happen.

I said they could send them to public or private schools. They would pay either way.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

It should not be up to the federal government to pay for healthcare, it's not a right...

Public school used to not be a "right" either,

Thats a roaring success isnt it...if increasing ignorance was the goal

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

Go look at tests from then and tests today ...........ignorance abounds.......

Tests at private schools for a few who could afford it?

No, public school tests... on average it is abysmal. And yes, no body is arguing the merits of free,, basic education. Unfortunately the school system has been overrun by unions and leftwingers who have little interest in actually educating any more.

 

[Dovahkiin]

Public school used to not be a "right" either,

Thats a roaring success isnt it...if increasing ignorance was the goal

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

I wouldn't be too quick about calling public ed a roaring success. People should be able to keep their tax dollars and spend them at public or private ed, their choice!

I don't think you understand how public schools work. States need tax dollars to fund public schools, how do you propose they get them if they stop collecting? The us govt could always give the states dollars to cover the gap, but I doubt conservatives want that to happen.

I said they could send them to public or private schools. They would pay either way.

You're not understanding. Everyone has to pay the tax for public schools in regards to the states or funding would fall under.

 

[Anathema]

Public school used to not be a "right" either,

Nor should it be; just like health care is not a Right.

 

[Manonthestreet]

It should not be up to the federal government to pay for healthcare, it's not a right...

Public school used to not be a "right" either,

Thats a roaring success isnt it...if increasing ignorance was the goal

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

Go look at tests from then and tests today ...........ignorance abounds.......

Tests at private schools for a few who could afford it?

Any test from any any school.....today is probably 4-5 yrs behind any school of yesteryear

 

[Iceweasel]

It should not be up to the federal government to pay for healthcare, it's not a right...

Public school used to not be a "right" either,

Thats a roaring success isnt it...if increasing ignorance was the goal

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

You're joking, right?

History doesn't lie. How many people were able to read before public schooling swept across America? How many knew basic math?

History doesn't lie. Kids today now know that gender is irrelevant BUT:

Education - Then and Now - 1895 Eighth-Grade Final Exam
Could You Have Passed
The 8th Grade in 1895?
Probably Not...Take a Look: This is the 1895 eighth-grade final exam from Salina, Kansas. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smoky Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, Kansas and reprinted by the Salina Journal.

SOURCE:
The following document was transcribed from the original document in the collection of the Smoky Valley Genealogy Society, Salina, Kansas. This test is the original eighth-grade final exam for 1895 from Salina, Kansas. An interesting note is the fact that the county students taking this test were allowed to take the test in the 7th grade, and if they did not pass the test at that time, they were allowed to re-take it again in the 8th grade. Also of note, the school year was but 7 months, beginning October 1 and ending April 1. allowing 5 months for planting, farming and harvest.




EXAMINATION GRADUATION QUESTIONS
OF SALINE COUNTY, KANSAS
April 13, 1895
J.W. Armstrong, County Superintendent.

Examinations at Salina, New Cambria, Gypsum City, Assaria, Falun, Bavaria, and District No. 74 (in Glendale Twp.)

Reading and Penmanship. - The Examination will be oral, and the Penmanship of Applicants will be graded from the manuscripts

Grammar (Time, one hour)

1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.
4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run.
5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case.
6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.
7-10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours)

1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $.20 per inch?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.

U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)

1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865?

Orthography (Time, one hour)

1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u'.
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e'. Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, super.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences, Cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.

Geography (Time, one hour)

1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of N.A.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth.

Health (Time, 45 minutes)

1. Where are the saliva, gastric juice, and bile secreted? What is the use of each in digestion?
2. How does nutrition reach the circulation?
3. What is the function of the liver? Of the kidneys?
4. How would you stop the flow of blood from an artery in the case of laceration?
5. Give some general directions that you think would be beneficial to preserve the human body in a state of health.

 

[Rustic]

Thats a roaring success isnt it...if increasing ignorance was the goal

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

I wouldn't be too quick about calling public ed a roaring success. People should be able to keep their tax dollars and spend them at public or private ed, their choice!

I don't think you understand how public schools work. States need tax dollars to fund public schools, how do you propose they get them if they stop collecting? The us govt could always give the states dollars to cover the gap, but I doubt conservatives want that to happen.

That whole system is FUBARed there is no saving it, just like the country's tax, spend and print policies. The country has passed the point of no return.

No, it hasn't. We're nowhere near maximum output, we can spend freely.

You're delusional, the country becoming more and more socialist everyday. Socialism is a society exclusively for Deadbeats, a very contagious disease of choice.

 

[Campbell]

It is a roaring success! Before public schools, basic education was lacking if one didn't have the money for school.

I wouldn't be too quick about calling public ed a roaring success. People should be able to keep their tax dollars and spend them at public or private ed, their choice!

I don't think you understand how public schools work. States need tax dollars to fund public schools, how do you propose they get them if they stop collecting? The us govt could always give the states dollars to cover the gap, but I doubt conservatives want that to happen.

That whole system is FUBARed there is no saving it, just like the country's tax, spend and print policies. The country has passed the point of no return.

No, it hasn't. We're nowhere near maximum output, we can spend freely.

You're delusional, the country becoming more and more socialist everyday. Socialism is a society exclusively for Deadbeats, a very contagious disease of choice.

It worked very well to get us out of a Hoover depression. I know.....I was there.

I will also point out that George W. Bush assumed a thriving economy with an unemployment rate of 4.3%, a balanced budget, then immediately cut taxes twice, continued to spend like a drunken sailor, ran up six trillion dollars of new debt and left a recession that if big banks had not been handed $700 billion would have been worse than the 1930's.

 

[Iceweasel]

I wouldn't be too quick about calling public ed a roaring success. People should be able to keep their tax dollars and spend them at public or private ed, their choice!

I don't think you understand how public schools work. States need tax dollars to fund public schools, how do you propose they get them if they stop collecting? The us govt could always give the states dollars to cover the gap, but I doubt conservatives want that to happen.

That whole system is FUBARed there is no saving it, just like the country's tax, spend and print policies. The country has passed the point of no return.

No, it hasn't. We're nowhere near maximum output, we can spend freely.

You're delusional, the country becoming more and more socialist everyday. Socialism is a society exclusively for Deadbeats, a very contagious disease of choice.

It worked very well to get us out of a Hoover depression. I know.....I was there.

I will also point out that George W. Bush assumed a thriving economy with an unemployment rate of 4.3%, a balanced budget, then immediately cut taxes twice, continued to spend like a drunken sailor, ran up six trillion dollars of new debt and left a recession that if big banks had not been handed $700 billion would have been worse than the 1930's.

Hoover greatly extended the depression with all his public spending. People have to pay for the programs, whatever you put into the public sector comes out of the private sector. obama has put us much deeper in debt with little to no results so your rants are lunacy. Nor have you figured out the role 9/11, Katrina or the housing bust has played. It's amazing how people twist their minds to believe in something.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Government spending on health care in Switzerland is only 2.7 percent of GDP, by far the lowest in the developed world. By contrast, in 2008, U.S. government spending on health care was 7.4 percent of GDP. If the U.S. could move its state health spending to Swiss levels, it would save more than $700 billion a year.

'Course that would deprive insurance companies of massive annual profits...Can't Have That!!

Maybe if other people stop telling me how fat I am then I wouldn't spend so much money on health care.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Government spending on health care in Switzerland is only 2.7 percent of GDP, by far the lowest in the developed world. By contrast, in 2008, U.S. government spending on health care was 7.4 percent of GDP. If the U.S. could move its state health spending to Swiss levels, it would save more than $700 billion a year.

'Course that would deprive insurance companies of massive annual profits...Can't Have That!!

Y'all are always pining for all the socialism in Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland. Just move over there. We won't miss you here.

Shucks.....your right wing rich man's sympathizer ass will be there a long time before I ever do. I was around in the 1930's/40's and saw what the government can do when it works for the people instead of the rich and corporations.

Well, that was back when there was some semblance of honesty, integrity, and less corruption. Govt was still in bed back then with corporations.

 

[Campbell]

I don't think you understand how public schools work. States need tax dollars to fund public schools, how do you propose they get them if they stop collecting? The us govt could always give the states dollars to cover the gap, but I doubt conservatives want that to happen.

That whole system is FUBARed there is no saving it, just like the country's tax, spend and print policies. The country has passed the point of no return.

No, it hasn't. We're nowhere near maximum output, we can spend freely.

You're delusional, the country becoming more and more socialist everyday. Socialism is a society exclusively for Deadbeats, a very contagious disease of choice.

It worked very well to get us out of a Hoover depression. I know.....I was there.

I will also point out that George W. Bush assumed a thriving economy with an unemployment rate of 4.3%, a balanced budget, then immediately cut taxes twice, continued to spend like a drunken sailor, ran up six trillion dollars of new debt and left a recession that if big banks had not been handed $700 billion would have been worse than the 1930's.

Hoover greatly extended the depression with all his public spending. People have to pay for the programs, whatever you put into the public sector comes out of the private sector. obama has put us much deeper in debt with little to no results so your rants are lunacy. Nor have you figured out the role 9/11, Katrina or the housing bust has played. It's amazing how people twist their minds to believe in something.

Well...you just proved your ignorance on the subject. The banks all closed their doors and nothing improved until Franklin Roosevelt's programs began. My Dad worked on the WPA drawing $3.60 a week for 48 hours. The depression actually was not completely over till the 2nd World War started. When the Republicans screw things up they do a fantastic job. Look at what happened beginning with Ronald Reagan:

..............................................Total U S Debt................................................

Figures Easily Verified....Taken From the Bureau of the Debt

US: $18,775,084,981,440 - Debt as of December 2015?

09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82

09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32

09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89

09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15

09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48

09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23

09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50

09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62

09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34

09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73

09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39

09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32 (Bill Clinton Raised Taxes On The Rich early 1993)

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66

09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03

09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25

09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32

09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16

09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00

09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42

09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00

09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00

09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

 

[80zephyr]

Government spending on health care in Switzerland is only 2.7 percent of GDP, by far the lowest in the developed world. By contrast, in 2008, U.S. government spending on health care was 7.4 percent of GDP. If the U.S. could move its state health spending to Swiss levels, it would save more than $700 billion a year.

'Course that would deprive insurance companies of massive annual profits...Can't Have That!!

There are a lot of countries that also spend less on education than us, and get better results. Are you in favor of that as well?

Mark