Green New Deal

[Ray From Cleveland]

ask them these simple questions: What are your goals, and how much will it cost us?

methinks Flopper nailed it>

Here's The Full Text Of Congress' Green New Deal Resolution, Introduced By Rep. Alexandra Ocasio Cortez | CleanTechnica

what should be asked (and is somewhat addressed in the resolution) is what we have to LOOSE if we don't meet these goals

~S~

The better question is, what will we have to lose if we do meet them?

 

[Ambivalent1]

ask them these simple questions: What are your goals, and how much will it cost us?

methinks Flopper nailed it>

Here's The Full Text Of Congress' Green New Deal Resolution, Introduced By Rep. Alexandra Ocasio Cortez | CleanTechnica

what should be asked (and is somewhat addressed in the resolution) is what we have to LOOSE if we don't meet these goals

~S~

The better question is, what will we have to lose if we do meet them?

I find it truly odd that Progressives tell us exactly what they want to do and then their "supporters" set about telling us what they really meant.

 

[Uncensored2008]

as a as I said doctors are some of the worst Republicans
Again, you have a masters in history the same way Che Guevara Barbie has a BA in Economics. Someone handed you a meaningless degree without you having proficiency
in the subject.

Any time history comes up, you prove yourself utterly ignorant. You don't even know the basics. Do you even know who the first president of the United States was? What year was the Magna Carta signed? What country was it signed in? Yes, you'll google them, but as we have ALL seen over and over, you have utterly no clue. You are a complete and total buffoon.

It is funnier than shit to see an uneducated, ignorant Trumpette trash those with an education & call their degrees worthless.

That's Dr. uneducated, ignorant Trumpette trash to you...

Moron.

Bull shit.

Doctor of stupidity.

DERP

Idiot.

I studied under Eli Goldratt. My (joint) thesis is an extension of his work. You want to know who I really am? Look it up.

My father was a doctor, most doctors are some of the worst Republicans there are and believe all the misinformation. My father was for socialized medicine since 1940 and basically kept it a secret...

There were Bolsheviks in the 40's, many working in government.

The John Birch Society in the 1950's said that Communists wanted to take over the public schools to destroy America from within.

Say, weren't YOU a public school teacher, Comrade?Didn't you pervert young minds with lies and evil?

 

[RealDave]

Well, save your fucking money as you condemn future generations to a more difficult life.

You really need to put down that gun & pick up a brain.,

What a fucking moron you are.

We provide a BETTER life. YOU want to go back to a society of slaves and masters.

All this Communism you promote really is, is a return to feudalism. A tiny elite of Algore and Elon Musk ruling over impoverished masses who work their lands and their factories for them in exchange for scraps from their table.

You want to provide future generations with lives that are short, brutal , and filled with misery.

How is fighting AGW going back to slavery.

A Trumpette & a minimum wage fighting asshoile complaining about how someone pays is just too funny.

What will America be like when it becomes too hot & dry to grow crops in the bread belt?

You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.

Global warming 'could trigger alien attack'

Flashback 1989: UN Predicted Global Warming Would Destroy Entire Nations By 2000

FLASHBACK: ABC News Warns NYC Will Be Under Water by 2015 Due to Global Warming and Polar Bears Will Fall From Sky

You keep being a liar & fraud & dumber than shit.

As proof the UN official said "COULD" SOME NATIONS like island nations in the Pacific.

Islands are disappearing: Eight low-lying Pacific islands swallowed whole by rising seas

You are the guy calling scientists a liar because you have been smoking for 30 years & don't have lung cancer.,

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

ask them these simple questions: What are your goals, and how much will it cost us?

methinks Flopper nailed it>

Here's The Full Text Of Congress' Green New Deal Resolution, Introduced By Rep. Alexandra Ocasio Cortez | CleanTechnica

what should be asked (and is somewhat addressed in the resolution) is what we have to LOOSE if we don't meet these goals

~S~

The better question is, what will we have to lose if we do meet them?

I find it truly odd that Progressives tell us exactly what they want to do and then their "supporters" set about telling us what they really meant.

The problem is even if we did all those things on that list, they would still be complaining and wanting more.

Years ago the feds told us that our state is too dirty, so they forced us into having our vehicles tested in the areas where the meter hit the red line. E-Check has cost Ohioans tens of millions of dollars. After ten years or so, they measured the air quality again and found no change. So what did they do? Insist we continue the failed program.

 

[Uncensored2008]

just like Americans fought the Nazis, Americans will now save the planet with The Green Big Deal!

We fought National Socialist back them. Now we have to fight Green Socialist.

The "national" wasn't a problem. The "green" is not problem neither. The "socialist" is the only problem.

So you believe Nazis were socialists, in other words you believe all right wing garbage propaganda LOL, brainwashed functional moron. Everyone outside your bubble of garbage propaganda define socialism as always Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net. See every socialist Party in modern rich countries... Only GOP dupes believe socialism is communism at this point. In the entire world. Also the only fools who deny global warming, progressive tax rates, Great American institutions like the FBI, and stupid Wars.

Hitler didn't say that.

It was Gregor Strasser, one of Hitlers Lieutenants.

Don't tell me, Hitler disagreed and executed him on the spot.

However, Hitler did say this:

"Whoever is prepared to make the national cause his own to such an extent that he knows no higher ideal than the welfare of the nation; whoever has understood our great national anthem, “Deutschland ueber Alles,” to mean that nothing in the wide world surpasses in his eyes this Germany, people and land — that man is a Socialist."

Nah, Strasser was executed in Nuremberg, he remained one of Hitler's top men all through the war.

The quote is real, and is a Nazi quote, it just wasn't Hitler. The Communists in the forum will run over to DailyKOS or Snopes or one of the other radical left sites and pull up a canned response of "NUHN UHN"

Nazism is based on Fascism, Fascism is a form of socialism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

We fought National Socialist back them. Now we have to fight Green Socialist.

The "national" wasn't a problem. The "green" is not problem neither. The "socialist" is the only problem.

So you believe Nazis were socialists, in other words you believe all right wing garbage propaganda LOL, brainwashed functional moron. Everyone outside your bubble of garbage propaganda define socialism as always Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net. See every socialist Party in modern rich countries... Only GOP dupes believe socialism is communism at this point. In the entire world. Also the only fools who deny global warming, progressive tax rates, Great American institutions like the FBI, and stupid Wars.

Hitler didn't say that.

It was Gregor Strasser, one of Hitlers Lieutenants.

Don't tell me, Hitler disagreed and executed him on the spot.

GOP propagandists just can't stop lying... And the dupes believe it all....

You know a net sum of zero history, so what you don't know is that the quote is real and came from one of the top three Nazis.

Hitler didn't care about economics, Strasser took care of that.

Learn some history, you ignorant fool.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Again, you have a masters in history the same way Che Guevara Barbie has a BA in Economics. Someone handed you a meaningless degree without you having proficiency
in the subject.

Any time history comes up, you prove yourself utterly ignorant. You don't even know the basics. Do you even know who the first president of the United States was? What year was the Magna Carta signed? What country was it signed in? Yes, you'll google them, but as we have ALL seen over and over, you have utterly no clue. You are a complete and total buffoon.

It is funnier than shit to see an uneducated, ignorant Trumpette trash those with an education & call their degrees worthless.

That's Dr. uneducated, ignorant Trumpette trash to you...

Moron.

Bull shit.

Doctor of stupidity.

DERP

Idiot.

I studied under Eli Goldratt. My (joint) thesis is an extension of his work. You want to know who I really am? Look it up.

This in the internet & I can make up shit too.

Pretty much everything you post is made up.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Well, save your fucking money as you condemn future generations to a more difficult life.

You really need to put down that gun & pick up a brain.,

What a fucking moron you are.

We provide a BETTER life. YOU want to go back to a society of slaves and masters.

All this Communism you promote really is, is a return to feudalism. A tiny elite of Algore and Elon Musk ruling over impoverished masses who work their lands and their factories for them in exchange for scraps from their table.

You want to provide future generations with lives that are short, brutal , and filled with misery.

How is fighting AGW going back to slavery.

A Trumpette & a minimum wage fighting asshoile complaining about how someone pays is just too funny.

What will America be like when it becomes too hot & dry to grow crops in the bread belt?

You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.

Global warming 'could trigger alien attack'

Flashback 1989: UN Predicted Global Warming Would Destroy Entire Nations By 2000

FLASHBACK: ABC News Warns NYC Will Be Under Water by 2015 Due to Global Warming and Polar Bears Will Fall From Sky

You keep being a liar & fraud & dumber than shit.

As proof the UN official said "COULD" SOME NATIONS like island nations in the Pacific.

Islands are disappearing: Eight low-lying Pacific islands swallowed whole by rising seas

You are the guy calling scientists a liar because you have been smoking for 30 years & don't have lung cancer.,

These islands are not nations dumb ass. And why is NYC still above water?

6 Lost cities found underwater around the world

 

[Ambivalent1]

We fought National Socialist back them. Now we have to fight Green Socialist.

The "national" wasn't a problem. The "green" is not problem neither. The "socialist" is the only problem.

So you believe Nazis were socialists, in other words you believe all right wing garbage propaganda LOL, brainwashed functional moron. Everyone outside your bubble of garbage propaganda define socialism as always Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net. See every socialist Party in modern rich countries... Only GOP dupes believe socialism is communism at this point. In the entire world. Also the only fools who deny global warming, progressive tax rates, Great American institutions like the FBI, and stupid Wars.

Hitler didn't say that.

It was Gregor Strasser, one of Hitlers Lieutenants.

Don't tell me, Hitler disagreed and executed him on the spot.

However, Hitler did say this:

"Whoever is prepared to make the national cause his own to such an extent that he knows no higher ideal than the welfare of the nation; whoever has understood our great national anthem, “Deutschland ueber Alles,” to mean that nothing in the wide world surpasses in his eyes this Germany, people and land — that man is a Socialist."

Nah, Strasser was executed in Nuremberg, he remained one of Hitler's top men all through the war.

The quote is real, and is a Nazi quote, it just wasn't Hitler. The Communists in the forum will run over to DailyKOS or Snopes or one of the other radical left sites and pull up a canned response of "NUHN UHN"

Nazism is based on Fascism, Fascism is a form of socialism.

Our educational system has put their minds in a rigid, narrowly defined little box that does not allow them to think for themselves.
Ideologies are tools, weapons if you will, that can and are used to reel in as many people to the users cause as they can get. Fascism, Communism, Socialism are the same as a hammer is. A tool, nothing more.

 

[Uncensored2008]

just like Americans fought the Nazis, Americans will now save the planet with The Green Big Deal!

We fought National Socialist back them. Now we have to fight Green Socialist.

The "national" wasn't a problem. The "green" is not problem neither. The "socialist" is the only problem.

So you believe Nazis were socialists, in other words you believe all right wing garbage propaganda LOL, brainwashed functional moron. Everyone outside your bubble of garbage propaganda define socialism as always Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net. See every socialist Party in modern rich countries... Only GOP dupes believe socialism is communism at this point. In the entire world. Also the only fools who deny global warming, progressive tax rates, Great American institutions like the FBI, and stupid Wars.

yes, super dupe, Nazis and Communists like to call themselves socialists in their propaganda, but only dupes believe them anymore. For one thing they are extreme and totalitarian, never democratic. Socialism is always democratic and always needed to be somewhat democratic. That's why communism is no longer socialist.just look at the Socialist parties in democracies everywhere. They are not communist, those are called the Communist Party LOL. Jesus you people are dumb. Oops sorry brainwashed and ignorant. You certainly know all the details of all kinds of imaginary scandals and Misinformation.

Socialism is authoritarian system, not democratic.

Socialism, as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, requires a totalitarian dictatorship.

I already explained it to you earlier, see post #1117.

By the way...

What's English translation of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei?

Socialism is the CONTROL of the means of production.

Mussolini (oh, look him up Franco, there are plenty of references) wrote "Why should I need to own the means of production? I own the owners."

Fascism is a form of socialism that includes incentives.

 

[Uncensored2008]

We fought National Socialist back them. Now we have to fight Green Socialist.

The "national" wasn't a problem. The "green" is not problem neither. The "socialist" is the only problem.

So you believe Nazis were socialists, in other words you believe all right wing garbage propaganda LOL, brainwashed functional moron. Everyone outside your bubble of garbage propaganda define socialism as always Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net. See every socialist Party in modern rich countries... Only GOP dupes believe socialism is communism at this point. In the entire world. Also the only fools who deny global warming, progressive tax rates, Great American institutions like the FBI, and stupid Wars.

yes, super dupe, Nazis and Communists like to call themselves socialists in their propaganda, but only dupes believe them anymore. For one thing they are extreme and totalitarian, never democratic. Socialism is always democratic and always needed to be somewhat democratic. That's why communism is no longer socialist.just look at the Socialist parties in democracies everywhere. They are not communist, those are called the Communist Party LOL. Jesus you people are dumb. Oops sorry brainwashed and ignorant. You certainly know all the details of all kinds of imaginary scandals and Misinformation.

Socialism is authoritarian system, not democratic.

Socialism, as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, requires a totalitarian dictatorship.

I already explained it to you earlier, see post #1117.

By the way...

What's English translation of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei?

That is communism, Cold War dinosaur. Socialism is now no longer the same as Russian communism when they found out it was not Democratic in any shape or form.. ask the Socialists around the world the Socialist Party in France Germany or Social Democrat sometimes. They are not communist. "we are all socialists now"--finland's prime minister when ObamaCare passed. only GOP dupes in the whole world believe socialism is the same as communism now.

What an ignorant fool.

What is "austerity?"

Explain what that meant for the Nordic states?

Oh, and the POPULATION of Finland Comrade, what percent is black? Hispanics? Asian?

Let's face it Franco, you're just stupid and utterly uneducated. BUT your masters, the ones feeding you the hating points you post, are disingenuous. (Look it up, you ignorant fool) A small, culturally homogeneous state with a stable population can offer a welfare state that large nations with massive invasion from the third world cannot.

A family will provide "free meals" to family members. They cannot open their stove to everyone in the city, though. I understand that you lack the intelligence to grasp all of this, but for the lurkers.

 

[basquebromance]

"the Green Big Deal is a nightmare. its nuts. they guarantee a job for someone unwilling to work. what does this have to do with climate change. the Dems have lost their way" - Lissy The Sissy Graham

 

[skews13]

ask them these simple questions: What are your goals, and how much will it cost us?

methinks Flopper nailed it>

Here's The Full Text Of Congress' Green New Deal Resolution, Introduced By Rep. Alexandra Ocasio Cortez | CleanTechnica

what should be asked (and is somewhat addressed in the resolution) is what we have to LOOSE if we don't meet these goals

~S~

The better question is, what will we have to lose if we do meet them?

I find it truly odd that Progressives tell us exactly what they want to do and then their "supporters" set about telling us what they really meant.

The problem is even if we did all those things on that list, they would still be complaining and wanting more.

Years ago the feds told us that our state is too dirty, so they forced us into having our vehicles tested in the areas where the meter hit the red line. E-Check has cost Ohioans tens of millions of dollars. After ten years or so, they measured the air quality again and found no change. So what did they do? Insist we continue the failed program.

This country coming from a guy that lives in a state that used to have rivers that caught on fire until those “failed programs” stopped them burning.

 

[sparky]

the Green Big Deal is a nightmare. its nuts. they guarantee a job for someone unwilling to work.

really?

can u tell me who;s hiring ......?


~S~

 

[basquebromance]

the Green Big Deal is a nightmare. its nuts. they guarantee a job for someone unwilling to work.

really?

can u tell me who;s hiring ......?


~S~

read the Green Big Deal. its right in there. ask AOC.

 

[sparky]

righto.......

 

[Uncensored2008]

Look dickbrearh, I probably own more guns than both of you combined.

Why don't you get rid of them? Destroy them? You Communists constantly demand that America be disarmed, yet here you are bragging about how many guns you have. You're far too stupid to grasp the reeking hypocrisy...

 

[Redfish]

How long would it take for a high speed train to get to Honolulu from Boston? Would it be a non stop, or would we need to stop several times on the trip?

If you had a 300 unit apartment building, would we see hundreds of extension cords out the windows of the units to the cars? If there are several hundred cars in the lot, would there be several hundred chargers somewhere on the lot? Or would everyone wait in line?

Rebuild every building in the US? I own a house. What does this mean? Do I have to pay for it? If I have to rebuild my 1950s home to meet an ambitious green plan, I met as well hand the keys over to the bank and move on.

and they never tell us how the electricity to recharge all those electric cars will be generated. or how the toxic batteries will be disposed of when worn out.

 

[Redfish]

Well, save your fucking money as you condemn future generations to a more difficult life.

You really need to put down that gun & pick up a brain.,

What a fucking moron you are.

We provide a BETTER life. YOU want to go back to a society of slaves and masters.

All this Communism you promote really is, is a return to feudalism. A tiny elite of Algore and Elon Musk ruling over impoverished masses who work their lands and their factories for them in exchange for scraps from their table.

You want to provide future generations with lives that are short, brutal , and filled with misery.

How is fighting AGW going back to slavery.

A Trumpette & a minimum wage fighting asshoile complaining about how someone pays is just too funny.

What will America be like when it becomes too hot & dry to grow crops in the bread belt?

You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.

Global warming 'could trigger alien attack'

Flashback 1989: UN Predicted Global Warming Would Destroy Entire Nations By 2000

FLASHBACK: ABC News Warns NYC Will Be Under Water by 2015 Due to Global Warming and Polar Bears Will Fall From Sky

You keep being a liar & fraud & dumber than shit.

As proof the UN official said "COULD" SOME NATIONS like island nations in the Pacific.

Islands are disappearing: Eight low-lying Pacific islands swallowed whole by rising seas

You are the guy calling scientists a liar because you have been smoking for 30 years & don't have lung cancer.,

in the year 2000 the prophet algore said that florida would be under water and there would be no ice at the poles in 10 years. Was he lying or just stupid?