Guess Who had CLOSER ties to the Russians during the Campaign..

[Reasonable]

Listening to Hannity now. Same exact shit you morons are trying to push to deflect from Trump's imploding presidency


Too funny for words

 

[Marion Morrison]

Link from April 8, 2016.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
and the comrades just keep getting more desperate by the day.

Thread fail. I mean GIANT thread fail.

It was as soon as you entered it. How does that make you feel?

The idiot posts an old story and you don't have the integrity to call him out on it.
Your MO- zero integrity.

Please elaborate. I am chock-full of integrity, you spineless globalist lemming deluded shill.

Prove I am not, then we can talk.

You couldn't prove your turds are brown, now kindly STFU and deal with it.

 

[Lewdog]

flacaltenn you realize we have no clue about Trump's actual ties to Russia... because he won't release his taxes.

That's speculation. You were just told that John Podesta was registered as LOBBYIST for the largest Russian bank with ties to the Kremlin and they also took money from an outfit favorite to a russian puppet in the Ukraine.

That's NOT speculation.. . So WHY the hell isn't there MASSIVE retaliation on this phony "Russian ties" BullShit?

Something bigger is afoot here.

What speculation? Trump's business credit score is so low that he has problems getting conventional lines of credit from U.S. banks.

So you would think differently of Trump if he were hundreds of millions of dollars in debt with Russian banks?

And before you delete my post as being off-topic, you brought it up in your OP by saying that no one can provide Trump financial ties to Russia... well yeah because he won't release his taxes! There would be nothing hypothetical about it.

 

[Marion Morrison]

John Podesta, maybe? I say The Weiner did.

 

[Reasonable]

On Hannity: Hillary, Obama, Franken- Stein, democrats, more Obama etc.

 

[flacaltenn]

flacaltenn you realize we have no clue about Trump's actual ties to Russia... because he won't release his taxes.

That's speculation. You were just told that John Podesta was registered as LOBBYIST for the largest Russian bank with ties to the Kremlin and they also took money from an outfit favorite to a russian puppet in the Ukraine.

That's NOT speculation.. . So WHY the hell isn't there MASSIVE retaliation on this phony "Russian ties" BullShit?

Something bigger is afoot here.

What speculation? Trump's business credit score is so low that he has problems getting conventional lines of credit from U.S. banks.

So you would think differently of Trump if he were hundreds of millions of dollars in debt with Russian banks?

And before you delete my post as being off-topic, you brought it up in your OP by saying that no one can provide Trump financial ties to Russia... well yeah because he won't release his taxes! There would be nothing hypothetical about it.

Oh you can speculate all you want. If Trumps tax returns arrived in 3 tractor trailers today -- It would be 2020 before anyone found the links.

 

[tinydancer]

Honestly -- never intended to get in the middle of this lunchroom brawl, but the wife was digging for info on the Caterpillar raid today and just brought me a Wiki article that blew my mind. I don't KNOW where this leads, but the fact that this NEVER SURFACED in all this cat screeching goin on worries me..

Podesta Group - Wikipedia

The Podesta Group is a lobbying and public affairs firm based in Washington, D.C.. It was founded in 1988 by brothers John Podesta and Tony Podesta and has previously been known as Podesta Associates, podesta.com and PodestaMattoon.[1][2][3] The firm most recently reorganized in January 2007 after current Chairman Tony Podesta split with former business partner Dan Mattoon.[3]


They also received revenue of $900,000 over the last two years from the "European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, a Brussels-based organization sympathetic to Viktor Yanukovych and his political party".[13]

They also represent the interests of Russia's largest financial institution Sberbank of Russia, which controls approximately 30 percent of Russian banking assets.[14]

OK --- any of that get your attention or is NEWS to you??

The Ukranian guy was the twice deposed "russian clone" who had ties to Paul Manafort as well. Aint' that rich?? You don't suppose that's why Manafort "had to go"......................

And a client who controls 30% of Russian banking assets?? That would be worth the NY Times or NPR investigating huh.. It gets better and I only spent a 1/2 hour on this.. From Salon --- no right winger lap dog media outlet. Probably in their "Bernie is getting screwed days"...

With Saudi and Russian ties, Clinton machine’s tentacles are far reaching, according to Panama Papers

FRIDAY, APR 8, 2016 01:21 PM CDT

With Saudi and Russian ties, Clinton machine’s tentacles are far reaching, according to Panama Papers
The Podesta Group, a lobbying firm headed by Clinton operatives, has made a pretty penny working for Saudi & Russia

A key gear in the Clinton machine that has sucked in hundreds of thousands of dollars lobbying on behalf of the Saudi absolute monarchy has also worked for Russia’s biggest bank.

The Podesta Group is one of the most influential Democratic Party-linked lobbyists in the U.S. And it is headed by a top Hillary Clinton fundraiser who has been referred to as the “Hillary moneyman.”

Sberbank, the largest financial institution in Eastern Europe, hired the Podesta Group to help powder up its public image, The Observer reports.

This is just one of the many findings in the so-called Panama Papers, a trove of 11.5 million documents that expose how political and economic elites from around the planet are stashing their money in secretive tax havens.

In March, the Podesta Group registered with the U.S. government as a lobbyist for Sberbank.

The bank plays an enormous role in the Russian economy. It controls almost 30 percent of Russia’s aggregate banking assets, employs a quarter-million people and “is functionally an arm of the Kremlin, although it’s ostensibly a private institution,” The Observer notes.

In his report on the Clinton machine’s ties to Saudi Arabia, Isikoff also notes that two “of the Clinton lobbyist-bundlers, Richard Sullivan and David Jones, are principals in a firm that, until late last year, represented the Russia Direct Investment Fund, a sovereign wealth fund co-founded by Vladimir Putin when he was prime minister.”

So lemme get this straight. NO substantial business ties have been found to the Trump campaign (except maybe for Manafort) BUT --- You have the Podesta Group picking up Lobbying tasks for the LARGEST RUSKIE BANK and bringing them on as a client DURING the primaries !!!

How the fuck do we NOT know this? Why aren't the alarm bells going off in BOTH directions? And why didn't the Trump campaign retaliate with all this knowledge when OBVIOUSLY guys like Manafort and Flynn are FULLY aware of these TIGHT Russian ties on the Clinton side?

Enquiring minds want to know. But I FEAR --- something much BIGGER is afoot here and there's probably an American Oligarchy war going that us peons aren't privvy to...

Just an FYI. The Clinton campaign had an advisor who was in cahoots with the Ukrainians to discredit Manafort.

They claimed he was under investigation for corruption. Flat out lie but they managed to get Manafort to resign.

Not only does Clinton have the Russian ties BUT she has even a bigger one with the Ukraine. Ukrainian oligarchs actually have donated more to the Clinton Foundation than even the Gulf states.

That's saying something. AND when she was Secretary of State one of her top donors named Pinchuk was given a pass to do business with Iran and make quizzillions.

I really hope the R's will investigate the Clinton Foundation fully because there is no doubt it was "pay to play".

 

[Wry Catcher]

Now it all makes sense why the Dems chose to make so many pre-emptive strikes.

The Uranium to Russia.

The money to Iran to buy it from Russia

The Millions Russia donated to The Clinton Foundation.

The Russian ties to the 64 Million given to The Obamas for a Book Deal

And now Podesta in bed with Russia too.

Herein is an article on the allegations on the uranium "deal". Fact checked, not echoed by a partisan hack:

The facts behind Trump’s repeated claim about Hillary Clinton’s role in the Russian uranium deal

 

[Lewdog]

flacaltenn you realize we have no clue about Trump's actual ties to Russia... because he won't release his taxes.

That's speculation. You were just told that John Podesta was registered as LOBBYIST for the largest Russian bank with ties to the Kremlin and they also took money from an outfit favorite to a russian puppet in the Ukraine.

That's NOT speculation.. . So WHY the hell isn't there MASSIVE retaliation on this phony "Russian ties" BullShit?

Something bigger is afoot here.

What speculation? Trump's business credit score is so low that he has problems getting conventional lines of credit from U.S. banks.

So you would think differently of Trump if he were hundreds of millions of dollars in debt with Russian banks?

And before you delete my post as being off-topic, you brought it up in your OP by saying that no one can provide Trump financial ties to Russia... well yeah because he won't release his taxes! There would be nothing hypothetical about it.

Oh you can speculate all you want. If Trumps tax returns arrived in 3 tractor trailers today -- It would be 2020 before anyone found the links.

He's been audited, someone has already gone through it. Now it is just a matter of the information being allowed to be made public.

FYI As of September of last year, Trump's business credit score was 19 out of 100. If you don't think he has a bunch of loans from Russian banks you're crazy.

 

[flacaltenn]

Honestly -- never intended to get in the middle of this lunchroom brawl, but the wife was digging for info on the Caterpillar raid today and just brought me a Wiki article that blew my mind. I don't KNOW where this leads, but the fact that this NEVER SURFACED in all this cat screeching goin on worries me..

Podesta Group - Wikipedia

The Podesta Group is a lobbying and public affairs firm based in Washington, D.C.. It was founded in 1988 by brothers John Podesta and Tony Podesta and has previously been known as Podesta Associates, podesta.com and PodestaMattoon.[1][2][3] The firm most recently reorganized in January 2007 after current Chairman Tony Podesta split with former business partner Dan Mattoon.[3]


They also received revenue of $900,000 over the last two years from the "European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, a Brussels-based organization sympathetic to Viktor Yanukovych and his political party".[13]

They also represent the interests of Russia's largest financial institution Sberbank of Russia, which controls approximately 30 percent of Russian banking assets.[14]

OK --- any of that get your attention or is NEWS to you??

The Ukranian guy was the twice deposed "russian clone" who had ties to Paul Manafort as well. Aint' that rich?? You don't suppose that's why Manafort "had to go"......................

And a client who controls 30% of Russian banking assets?? That would be worth the NY Times or NPR investigating huh.. It gets better and I only spent a 1/2 hour on this.. From Salon --- no right winger lap dog media outlet. Probably in their "Bernie is getting screwed days"...

With Saudi and Russian ties, Clinton machine’s tentacles are far reaching, according to Panama Papers

FRIDAY, APR 8, 2016 01:21 PM CDT

With Saudi and Russian ties, Clinton machine’s tentacles are far reaching, according to Panama Papers
The Podesta Group, a lobbying firm headed by Clinton operatives, has made a pretty penny working for Saudi & Russia

A key gear in the Clinton machine that has sucked in hundreds of thousands of dollars lobbying on behalf of the Saudi absolute monarchy has also worked for Russia’s biggest bank.

The Podesta Group is one of the most influential Democratic Party-linked lobbyists in the U.S. And it is headed by a top Hillary Clinton fundraiser who has been referred to as the “Hillary moneyman.”

Sberbank, the largest financial institution in Eastern Europe, hired the Podesta Group to help powder up its public image, The Observer reports.

This is just one of the many findings in the so-called Panama Papers, a trove of 11.5 million documents that expose how political and economic elites from around the planet are stashing their money in secretive tax havens.

In March, the Podesta Group registered with the U.S. government as a lobbyist for Sberbank.

The bank plays an enormous role in the Russian economy. It controls almost 30 percent of Russia’s aggregate banking assets, employs a quarter-million people and “is functionally an arm of the Kremlin, although it’s ostensibly a private institution,” The Observer notes.

In his report on the Clinton machine’s ties to Saudi Arabia, Isikoff also notes that two “of the Clinton lobbyist-bundlers, Richard Sullivan and David Jones, are principals in a firm that, until late last year, represented the Russia Direct Investment Fund, a sovereign wealth fund co-founded by Vladimir Putin when he was prime minister.”

So lemme get this straight. NO substantial business ties have been found to the Trump campaign (except maybe for Manafort) BUT --- You have the Podesta Group picking up Lobbying tasks for the LARGEST RUSKIE BANK and bringing them on as a client DURING the primaries !!!

How the fuck do we NOT know this? Why aren't the alarm bells going off in BOTH directions? And why didn't the Trump campaign retaliate with all this knowledge when OBVIOUSLY guys like Manafort and Flynn are FULLY aware of these TIGHT Russian ties on the Clinton side?

Enquiring minds want to know. But I FEAR --- something much BIGGER is afoot here and there's probably an American Oligarchy war going that us peons aren't privvy to...

Just an FYI. The Clinton campaign had an advisor who was in cahoots with the Ukrainians to discredit Manafort.

They claimed he was under investigation for corruption. Flat out lie but they managed to get Manafort to resign.

Not only does Clinton have the Russian ties BUT she has even a bigger one with the Ukraine. Ukrainian oligarchs actually have donated more to the Clinton Foundation than even the Gulf states.

That's saying something. AND when she was Secretary of State one of her top donors named Pinchuk was given a pass to do business with Iran and make quizzillions.

I really hope the R's will investigate the Clinton Foundation fully because there is no doubt it was "pay to play".

Were Podesta and Manafort competing in some way for representation of this Russian Ukranian puppet? Something going on there.

And were you aware of the Podesta Group and this bank lobbying? Because it was news to me.. I really need someone to explain to me why with Godzillion hours of the "russian are coming" media news -- the Trump folks NEVER clobber back with this Podesta/bundler connections to Russia. Are they blackmail-able? Is there bad ju-ju on BOTH sides here?

 

[flacaltenn]

Now it all makes sense why the Dems chose to make so many pre-emptive strikes.

The Uranium to Russia.

The money to Iran to buy it from Russia

The Millions Russia donated to The Clinton Foundation.

The Russian ties to the 64 Million given to The Obamas for a Book Deal

And now Podesta in bed with Russia too.

Herein is an article on the allegations on the uranium "deal". Fact checked, not echoed by a partisan hack:

The facts behind Trump’s repeated claim about Hillary Clinton’s role in the Russian uranium deal

Don't need fact-checkers. I need a media that WORKS... Thank-you. Clinton was dirty on the deal..

 

[Lewdog]

Honestly -- never intended to get in the middle of this lunchroom brawl, but the wife was digging for info on the Caterpillar raid today and just brought me a Wiki article that blew my mind. I don't KNOW where this leads, but the fact that this NEVER SURFACED in all this cat screeching goin on worries me..

Podesta Group - Wikipedia

The Podesta Group is a lobbying and public affairs firm based in Washington, D.C.. It was founded in 1988 by brothers John Podesta and Tony Podesta and has previously been known as Podesta Associates, podesta.com and PodestaMattoon.[1][2][3] The firm most recently reorganized in January 2007 after current Chairman Tony Podesta split with former business partner Dan Mattoon.[3]


They also received revenue of $900,000 over the last two years from the "European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, a Brussels-based organization sympathetic to Viktor Yanukovych and his political party".[13]

They also represent the interests of Russia's largest financial institution Sberbank of Russia, which controls approximately 30 percent of Russian banking assets.[14]

OK --- any of that get your attention or is NEWS to you??

The Ukranian guy was the twice deposed "russian clone" who had ties to Paul Manafort as well. Aint' that rich?? You don't suppose that's why Manafort "had to go"......................

And a client who controls 30% of Russian banking assets?? That would be worth the NY Times or NPR investigating huh.. It gets better and I only spent a 1/2 hour on this.. From Salon --- no right winger lap dog media outlet. Probably in their "Bernie is getting screwed days"...

With Saudi and Russian ties, Clinton machine’s tentacles are far reaching, according to Panama Papers

FRIDAY, APR 8, 2016 01:21 PM CDT

With Saudi and Russian ties, Clinton machine’s tentacles are far reaching, according to Panama Papers
The Podesta Group, a lobbying firm headed by Clinton operatives, has made a pretty penny working for Saudi & Russia

A key gear in the Clinton machine that has sucked in hundreds of thousands of dollars lobbying on behalf of the Saudi absolute monarchy has also worked for Russia’s biggest bank.

The Podesta Group is one of the most influential Democratic Party-linked lobbyists in the U.S. And it is headed by a top Hillary Clinton fundraiser who has been referred to as the “Hillary moneyman.”

Sberbank, the largest financial institution in Eastern Europe, hired the Podesta Group to help powder up its public image, The Observer reports.

This is just one of the many findings in the so-called Panama Papers, a trove of 11.5 million documents that expose how political and economic elites from around the planet are stashing their money in secretive tax havens.

In March, the Podesta Group registered with the U.S. government as a lobbyist for Sberbank.

The bank plays an enormous role in the Russian economy. It controls almost 30 percent of Russia’s aggregate banking assets, employs a quarter-million people and “is functionally an arm of the Kremlin, although it’s ostensibly a private institution,” The Observer notes.

In his report on the Clinton machine’s ties to Saudi Arabia, Isikoff also notes that two “of the Clinton lobbyist-bundlers, Richard Sullivan and David Jones, are principals in a firm that, until late last year, represented the Russia Direct Investment Fund, a sovereign wealth fund co-founded by Vladimir Putin when he was prime minister.”

So lemme get this straight. NO substantial business ties have been found to the Trump campaign (except maybe for Manafort) BUT --- You have the Podesta Group picking up Lobbying tasks for the LARGEST RUSKIE BANK and bringing them on as a client DURING the primaries !!!

How the fuck do we NOT know this? Why aren't the alarm bells going off in BOTH directions? And why didn't the Trump campaign retaliate with all this knowledge when OBVIOUSLY guys like Manafort and Flynn are FULLY aware of these TIGHT Russian ties on the Clinton side?

Enquiring minds want to know. But I FEAR --- something much BIGGER is afoot here and there's probably an American Oligarchy war going that us peons aren't privvy to...

Just an FYI. The Clinton campaign had an advisor who was in cahoots with the Ukrainians to discredit Manafort.

They claimed he was under investigation for corruption. Flat out lie but they managed to get Manafort to resign.

Not only does Clinton have the Russian ties BUT she has even a bigger one with the Ukraine. Ukrainian oligarchs actually have donated more to the Clinton Foundation than even the Gulf states.

That's saying something. AND when she was Secretary of State one of her top donors named Pinchuk was given a pass to do business with Iran and make quizzillions.

I really hope the R's will investigate the Clinton Foundation fully because there is no doubt it was "pay to play".

Were Podesta and Manafort competing in some way for representation of this Russian Ukranian puppet? Something going on there.

And were you aware of the Podesta Group and this bank lobbying? Because it was news to me.. I really need someone to explain to me why with Godzillion hours of the "russian are coming" media news -- the Trump folks NEVER clobber back with this Podesta/bundler connections to Russia. Are they blackmail-able? Is there bad ju-ju on BOTH sides here?

Well didn't you say you read it on Wikipedia? Anyone can edit Wikipedia... it is going to take a lot stronger sourcing that that.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Now it all makes sense why the Dems chose to make so many pre-emptive strikes.

The Uranium to Russia.

The money to Iran to buy it from Russia

The Millions Russia donated to The Clinton Foundation.

The Russian ties to the 64 Million given to The Obamas for a Book Deal

And now Podesta in bed with Russia too.

Herein is an article on the allegations on the uranium "deal". Fact checked, not echoed by a partisan hack:

The facts behind Trump’s repeated claim about Hillary Clinton’s role in the Russian uranium deal

Don't need fact-checkers. I need a media that WORKS... Thank-you. Clinton was dirty on the deal..

An allegation sans an indictment - explain that!

 

[flacaltenn]

Honestly -- never intended to get in the middle of this lunchroom brawl, but the wife was digging for info on the Caterpillar raid today and just brought me a Wiki article that blew my mind. I don't KNOW where this leads, but the fact that this NEVER SURFACED in all this cat screeching goin on worries me..

Podesta Group - Wikipedia

The Podesta Group is a lobbying and public affairs firm based in Washington, D.C.. It was founded in 1988 by brothers John Podesta and Tony Podesta and has previously been known as Podesta Associates, podesta.com and PodestaMattoon.[1][2][3] The firm most recently reorganized in January 2007 after current Chairman Tony Podesta split with former business partner Dan Mattoon.[3]


They also received revenue of $900,000 over the last two years from the "European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, a Brussels-based organization sympathetic to Viktor Yanukovych and his political party".[13]

They also represent the interests of Russia's largest financial institution Sberbank of Russia, which controls approximately 30 percent of Russian banking assets.[14]

OK --- any of that get your attention or is NEWS to you??

The Ukranian guy was the twice deposed "russian clone" who had ties to Paul Manafort as well. Aint' that rich?? You don't suppose that's why Manafort "had to go"......................

And a client who controls 30% of Russian banking assets?? That would be worth the NY Times or NPR investigating huh.. It gets better and I only spent a 1/2 hour on this.. From Salon --- no right winger lap dog media outlet. Probably in their "Bernie is getting screwed days"...

With Saudi and Russian ties, Clinton machine’s tentacles are far reaching, according to Panama Papers

FRIDAY, APR 8, 2016 01:21 PM CDT

With Saudi and Russian ties, Clinton machine’s tentacles are far reaching, according to Panama Papers
The Podesta Group, a lobbying firm headed by Clinton operatives, has made a pretty penny working for Saudi & Russia

A key gear in the Clinton machine that has sucked in hundreds of thousands of dollars lobbying on behalf of the Saudi absolute monarchy has also worked for Russia’s biggest bank.

The Podesta Group is one of the most influential Democratic Party-linked lobbyists in the U.S. And it is headed by a top Hillary Clinton fundraiser who has been referred to as the “Hillary moneyman.”

Sberbank, the largest financial institution in Eastern Europe, hired the Podesta Group to help powder up its public image, The Observer reports.

This is just one of the many findings in the so-called Panama Papers, a trove of 11.5 million documents that expose how political and economic elites from around the planet are stashing their money in secretive tax havens.

In March, the Podesta Group registered with the U.S. government as a lobbyist for Sberbank.

The bank plays an enormous role in the Russian economy. It controls almost 30 percent of Russia’s aggregate banking assets, employs a quarter-million people and “is functionally an arm of the Kremlin, although it’s ostensibly a private institution,” The Observer notes.

In his report on the Clinton machine’s ties to Saudi Arabia, Isikoff also notes that two “of the Clinton lobbyist-bundlers, Richard Sullivan and David Jones, are principals in a firm that, until late last year, represented the Russia Direct Investment Fund, a sovereign wealth fund co-founded by Vladimir Putin when he was prime minister.”

So lemme get this straight. NO substantial business ties have been found to the Trump campaign (except maybe for Manafort) BUT --- You have the Podesta Group picking up Lobbying tasks for the LARGEST RUSKIE BANK and bringing them on as a client DURING the primaries !!!

How the fuck do we NOT know this? Why aren't the alarm bells going off in BOTH directions? And why didn't the Trump campaign retaliate with all this knowledge when OBVIOUSLY guys like Manafort and Flynn are FULLY aware of these TIGHT Russian ties on the Clinton side?

Enquiring minds want to know. But I FEAR --- something much BIGGER is afoot here and there's probably an American Oligarchy war going that us peons aren't privvy to...

Just an FYI. The Clinton campaign had an advisor who was in cahoots with the Ukrainians to discredit Manafort.

They claimed he was under investigation for corruption. Flat out lie but they managed to get Manafort to resign.

Not only does Clinton have the Russian ties BUT she has even a bigger one with the Ukraine. Ukrainian oligarchs actually have donated more to the Clinton Foundation than even the Gulf states.

That's saying something. AND when she was Secretary of State one of her top donors named Pinchuk was given a pass to do business with Iran and make quizzillions.

I really hope the R's will investigate the Clinton Foundation fully because there is no doubt it was "pay to play".

Were Podesta and Manafort competing in some way for representation of this Russian Ukranian puppet? Something going on there.

And were you aware of the Podesta Group and this bank lobbying? Because it was news to me.. I really need someone to explain to me why with Godzillion hours of the "russian are coming" media news -- the Trump folks NEVER clobber back with this Podesta/bundler connections to Russia. Are they blackmail-able? Is there bad ju-ju on BOTH sides here?

Well didn't you say you read it on Wikipedia? Anyone can edit Wikipedia... it is going to take a lot stronger sourcing that that.

Everything on the Wiki is sourced thru the SALON article that I also quoted. Is that LEFT enough for you comrade???

 

[theliq]

Link from April 8, 2016.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
and the comrades just keep getting more desperate by the day.

Thread fail. I mean GIANT thread fail.

You didn't read any of that did you? The Podesta was just HIRED by that largest Russian in March of 16. During the primaries. I assume they LOBBIED for them all during the campaign. And the ties of 900,000 bucks to the Ukranian Russian tool President is MORE than anything substantial tied to the Trump campaign..

That bank and the Russian Investment Company co-founded by PUTIN are essentially government/private entities closely tied to the Kremlin.

Amazing how you Americans suck up to the Despot Putin,I suppose you can no longer stand on your own two feet these days,oh long forgotten leaders of the world...the humiliation of it all..steve

Obviously Steve, my bud -- there is a LOT of sucking going on. And don't you think we Americans deserve to every bit of it???

I agree Flacc but it is one thing to suck off a woman BUT totally different to suck off a 60+ year old former KGB Operative.steve

Yeah Putin is a real threat to AussieLand. That's where we're all headed when this whole sordid battle erupts. Find me a nice place on the Little River. I have friends there.

I'll do better than that Flacc,hows about see,the Swan River....Where the original Black Swans are found....A couple of vids for you to enjoy





Enjoy steve

 

[flacaltenn]

And whoTF leaked these "Panama Papers" that detail the dealings of the Podesta Group? Why weren't the Dems SCREAMING about that hacking and leaking?

Shit ain't making sense anymore.. I think things about to go BOOM....

 

[flacaltenn]

You didn't read any of that did you? The Podesta was just HIRED by that largest Russian in March of 16. During the primaries. I assume they LOBBIED for them all during the campaign. And the ties of 900,000 bucks to the Ukranian Russian tool President is MORE than anything substantial tied to the Trump campaign..

That bank and the Russian Investment Company co-founded by PUTIN are essentially government/private entities closely tied to the Kremlin.

Amazing how you Americans suck up to the Despot Putin,I suppose you can no longer stand on your own two feet these days,oh long forgotten leaders of the world...the humiliation of it all..steve

Obviously Steve, my bud -- there is a LOT of sucking going on. And don't you think we Americans deserve to every bit of it???

I agree Flacc but it is one thing to suck off a woman BUT totally different to suck off a 60+ year old former KGB Operative.steve

Yeah Putin is a real threat to AussieLand. That's where we're all headed when this whole sordid battle erupts. Find me a nice place on the Little River. I have friends there.

I'll do better than that Flacc,hows about see,the Swan River....Where the original Black Swans are found....A couple of vids for you to enjoy





Enjoy steve

You're hired Steve -- I'll make the evacuation plan and be back in touch before stuff blows up here..

 

[Lewdog]

Honestly -- never intended to get in the middle of this lunchroom brawl, but the wife was digging for info on the Caterpillar raid today and just brought me a Wiki article that blew my mind. I don't KNOW where this leads, but the fact that this NEVER SURFACED in all this cat screeching goin on worries me..

Podesta Group - Wikipedia

The Podesta Group is a lobbying and public affairs firm based in Washington, D.C.. It was founded in 1988 by brothers John Podesta and Tony Podesta and has previously been known as Podesta Associates, podesta.com and PodestaMattoon.[1][2][3] The firm most recently reorganized in January 2007 after current Chairman Tony Podesta split with former business partner Dan Mattoon.[3]


They also received revenue of $900,000 over the last two years from the "European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, a Brussels-based organization sympathetic to Viktor Yanukovych and his political party".[13]

They also represent the interests of Russia's largest financial institution Sberbank of Russia, which controls approximately 30 percent of Russian banking assets.[14]

OK --- any of that get your attention or is NEWS to you??

The Ukranian guy was the twice deposed "russian clone" who had ties to Paul Manafort as well. Aint' that rich?? You don't suppose that's why Manafort "had to go"......................

And a client who controls 30% of Russian banking assets?? That would be worth the NY Times or NPR investigating huh.. It gets better and I only spent a 1/2 hour on this.. From Salon --- no right winger lap dog media outlet. Probably in their "Bernie is getting screwed days"...

With Saudi and Russian ties, Clinton machine’s tentacles are far reaching, according to Panama Papers

FRIDAY, APR 8, 2016 01:21 PM CDT

With Saudi and Russian ties, Clinton machine’s tentacles are far reaching, according to Panama Papers
The Podesta Group, a lobbying firm headed by Clinton operatives, has made a pretty penny working for Saudi & Russia

A key gear in the Clinton machine that has sucked in hundreds of thousands of dollars lobbying on behalf of the Saudi absolute monarchy has also worked for Russia’s biggest bank.

The Podesta Group is one of the most influential Democratic Party-linked lobbyists in the U.S. And it is headed by a top Hillary Clinton fundraiser who has been referred to as the “Hillary moneyman.”

Sberbank, the largest financial institution in Eastern Europe, hired the Podesta Group to help powder up its public image, The Observer reports.

This is just one of the many findings in the so-called Panama Papers, a trove of 11.5 million documents that expose how political and economic elites from around the planet are stashing their money in secretive tax havens.

In March, the Podesta Group registered with the U.S. government as a lobbyist for Sberbank.

The bank plays an enormous role in the Russian economy. It controls almost 30 percent of Russia’s aggregate banking assets, employs a quarter-million people and “is functionally an arm of the Kremlin, although it’s ostensibly a private institution,” The Observer notes.

In his report on the Clinton machine’s ties to Saudi Arabia, Isikoff also notes that two “of the Clinton lobbyist-bundlers, Richard Sullivan and David Jones, are principals in a firm that, until late last year, represented the Russia Direct Investment Fund, a sovereign wealth fund co-founded by Vladimir Putin when he was prime minister.”

So lemme get this straight. NO substantial business ties have been found to the Trump campaign (except maybe for Manafort) BUT --- You have the Podesta Group picking up Lobbying tasks for the LARGEST RUSKIE BANK and bringing them on as a client DURING the primaries !!!

How the fuck do we NOT know this? Why aren't the alarm bells going off in BOTH directions? And why didn't the Trump campaign retaliate with all this knowledge when OBVIOUSLY guys like Manafort and Flynn are FULLY aware of these TIGHT Russian ties on the Clinton side?

Enquiring minds want to know. But I FEAR --- something much BIGGER is afoot here and there's probably an American Oligarchy war going that us peons aren't privvy to...

Just an FYI. The Clinton campaign had an advisor who was in cahoots with the Ukrainians to discredit Manafort.

They claimed he was under investigation for corruption. Flat out lie but they managed to get Manafort to resign.

Not only does Clinton have the Russian ties BUT she has even a bigger one with the Ukraine. Ukrainian oligarchs actually have donated more to the Clinton Foundation than even the Gulf states.

That's saying something. AND when she was Secretary of State one of her top donors named Pinchuk was given a pass to do business with Iran and make quizzillions.

I really hope the R's will investigate the Clinton Foundation fully because there is no doubt it was "pay to play".

Were Podesta and Manafort competing in some way for representation of this Russian Ukranian puppet? Something going on there.

And were you aware of the Podesta Group and this bank lobbying? Because it was news to me.. I really need someone to explain to me why with Godzillion hours of the "russian are coming" media news -- the Trump folks NEVER clobber back with this Podesta/bundler connections to Russia. Are they blackmail-able? Is there bad ju-ju on BOTH sides here?

Well didn't you say you read it on Wikipedia? Anyone can edit Wikipedia... it is going to take a lot stronger sourcing that that.

Everything on the Wiki is sourced thru the SALON article that I also quoted. Is that LEFT enough for you comrade???

It is still going to take a lot more than that, and I mean a serious paper trail. Do I doubt anything nefarious went on in the Clinton campaign? Nope, but two wrongs don't make a right, and Clinton and Podesta no longer have power or control over our government. Those that do are obviously trying to cover up some stuff, and the only way that shit is going to come to light is if citizens bitch to their representatives enough and threaten their jobs enough to force their hand to do a full blown investigation and clean up the White House.

 

[Lewdog]

And whoTF leaked these "Panama Papers" that detail the dealings of the Podesta Group? Why weren't the Dems SCREAMING about that hacking and leaking?

Shit ain't making sense anymore.. I think things about to go BOOM....

There were Trump people involved in the Panama Papers too.

 

[Rambunctious]

Obama and hillary gave Iran a green light to buy millions of dollars of nuclear material and equipment from Russia. Why would Russia want Trump to win? Hmmmmmmm?