Gun gangs in Britain becoming more ruthless? They have gun gangs...but, they banned guns?

[2aguy]

This article asks a question....are the gun gangs in Britain getting more ruthless....?

Are Merseyside's gun gangs becoming more ruthless?


In the past seven weeks gun blasts from Litherland to Haydock have led to armed officers being deployed and streets being cordoned off.

The series of incidents represents one of the most ruthless sprees of the past few years - and appear to have seen “warning” shots fired at homes and vehicles replaced by more brutal incidents.

Shootings on Merseyside have risen over the past two consecutive years, with a toxic cocktail of factors thought to have been responsible.
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What has stood out about recent incidents is the number that have left people injured.
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But the last 28 months have seen more than 150 shootings on Merseyside, and a spate where so many consecutive blasts have led to injury has been rare.

But........they banned hand guns in Britain...and it is an island.....

Another possible concern is the use of handguns in recent attacks.

 

[MindWars]

Oh imagine that do you suppose they waited for their background checks, or waited for a mental health check up first.....
Or maybe all those little scary signs that say " GUN FREE ZONE" . scared them away.

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

Straight outta Liverpool...a MFer named Archibald...from a gang called...Her Royal Highness's Rapscallions.

Ahhhh stereotypes!...but we all know it's the knee grows.

 

[TheOldSchool]

This article asks a question....are the gun gangs in Britain getting more ruthless....?

Are Merseyside's gun gangs becoming more ruthless?


In the past seven weeks gun blasts from Litherland to Haydock have led to armed officers being deployed and streets being cordoned off.

The series of incidents represents one of the most ruthless sprees of the past few years - and appear to have seen “warning” shots fired at homes and vehicles replaced by more brutal incidents.

Shootings on Merseyside have risen over the past two consecutive years, with a toxic cocktail of factors thought to have been responsible.
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What has stood out about recent incidents is the number that have left people injured.
------------

But the last 28 months have seen more than 150 shootings on Merseyside, and a spate where so many consecutive blasts have led to injury has been rare.

But........they banned hand guns in Britain...and it is an island.....

Another possible concern is the use of handguns in recent attacks.

They never banned guns. What are Britain’s gun crime and murder rates?

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

They never banned guns

True

What are Britain’s gun crime and murder rates?

In comparison with whom? England 20 years ago? Pretty GD high.

 

[Mousterian]

 

[TheOldSchool]

They never banned guns

True

What are Britain’s gun crime and murder rates?

In comparison with whom? England 20 years ago? Pretty GD high.

Then post it

 

[2aguy]

This article asks a question....are the gun gangs in Britain getting more ruthless....?

Are Merseyside's gun gangs becoming more ruthless?


In the past seven weeks gun blasts from Litherland to Haydock have led to armed officers being deployed and streets being cordoned off.

The series of incidents represents one of the most ruthless sprees of the past few years - and appear to have seen “warning” shots fired at homes and vehicles replaced by more brutal incidents.

Shootings on Merseyside have risen over the past two consecutive years, with a toxic cocktail of factors thought to have been responsible.
-----

What has stood out about recent incidents is the number that have left people injured.
------------

But the last 28 months have seen more than 150 shootings on Merseyside, and a spate where so many consecutive blasts have led to injury has been rare.

But........they banned hand guns in Britain...and it is an island.....

Another possible concern is the use of handguns in recent attacks.

They never banned guns. What are Britain’s gun crime and murder rates?

Yes, they did, they only allow hunting shotguns for the wealthy ....handguns, which have been mentioned in the article, are completely banned....

Their gun crime rates are going up...their gun murder rate went up right after the ban and confiscation then returned to the exact same level it was at before the ban...which people would say shows their gun ban didn't lower the gun murder rate......

For more detail and a comparison between Britain and the U.S....

Britain...banned guns....

Yorkshire sees highest number of crimes for any county in Britain according to figures

“In particular we’re shocked to see an increase of nearly 30 per cent in weapon possession offences between 2016 and 2017.”

Crimes covered violent and sexual offences, vehicle theft, public order offences, possession of weapons, shoplifting, personal theft, drug crimes, robbery, criminal damage, bicycle thefts and anti-social behaviour.


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Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

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He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

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Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.


The U.S., 600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense.......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah....knife murder in the U.S. is also higher than in Those countries.....and as a real comparison......Britain's gun crime rates are going up...ours are going down....

In Detail...

Britain...banned guns....

Yorkshire sees highest number of crimes for any county in Britain according to figures

“In particular we’re shocked to see an increase of nearly 30 per cent in weapon possession offences between 2016 and 2017.”

Crimes covered violent and sexual offences, vehicle theft, public order offences, possession of weapons, shoplifting, personal theft, drug crimes, robbery, criminal damage, bicycle thefts and anti-social behaviour.


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Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.


The U.S., 600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense.......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[del]

idiots think that because criminals break a law, the law is useless

*omg, murder is against the law, but people still do it. murder laws are useless*

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

They never banned guns

True

What are Britain’s gun crime and murder rates?

In comparison with whom? England 20 years ago? Pretty GD high.

Then post it

Nope, I'm wrong.
Ref. Table 5
Appendix tables: homicide in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics
Overall homicides spike this year but the spike was due to an incident in Hillsborough which resulted in the death of 86 due to asphyxiation. Not sure what that's about.

 

[2aguy]

idiots think that because criminals break a law, the law is useless

*omg, murder is against the law, but people still do it. murder laws are useless*

No......I think gun laws that target law abiding gun owners who do not use their guns to commit crimes are really fucking stupid.....

We already have all the gun laws we need to stop gun criminals......the problem is that democrats, like you, keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail.....

We can already put you in jail if you use a gun to commit a crime.....then democrats let you out.

We can already arrest you if you are a felon caught in possession of an illegal gun....then the democrats let you out.

see the problem?

 

[del]

idiots think that because criminals break a law, the law is useless

*omg, murder is against the law, but people still do it. murder laws are useless*

No......I think gun laws that target law abiding gun owners who do not use their guns to commit crimes are really fucking stupid.....

We already have all the gun laws we need to stop gun criminals......the problem is that democrats, like you, keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail.....

We can already put you in jail if you use a gun to commit a crime.....then democrats let you out.

We can already arrest you if you are a felon caught in possession of an illegal gun....then the democrats let you out.

see the problem?

i see i need to apologize to the idiots.

carry on

 

[2aguy]

They never banned guns

True

What are Britain’s gun crime and murder rates?

In comparison with whom? England 20 years ago? Pretty GD high.

Then post it

Nope, I'm wrong.
Ref. Table 5
Appendix tables: homicide in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics
Overall homicides spike this year but the spike was due to an incident in Hillsborough which resulted in the death of 86 due to asphyxiation. Not sure what that's about.

Gun murder didn't change, well...it spiked for 10 years after the ban and confiscation and didn't go below the number once they hired and deployed more police...

 

[MindWars]

VOX LMFAO.....

Try those highest rates are in the states with the strictest gun laws across the country. OMG imagine that the highest murder rates there are CHICAGO, DETROIT....... start adding Vermont they're taking the same bs laws on, and the idiots of Florida sell guns to those 21 and older omfg...

Funny the gun haters fail to realize the FBI admits to fabricating murders by guns.......

 

[2aguy]

idiots think that because criminals break a law, the law is useless

*omg, murder is against the law, but people still do it. murder laws are useless*

This is what happened after they banned guns, and when more Americans own and carry guns...

Britain...banned guns....

Yorkshire sees highest number of crimes for any county in Britain according to figures

“In particular we’re shocked to see an increase of nearly 30 per cent in weapon possession offences between 2016 and 2017.”

Crimes covered violent and sexual offences, vehicle theft, public order offences, possession of weapons, shoplifting, personal theft, drug crimes, robbery, criminal damage, bicycle thefts and anti-social behaviour.


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Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.


The U.S., 600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense.......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

This article asks a question....are the gun gangs in Britain getting more ruthless....?

Are Merseyside's gun gangs becoming more ruthless?


In the past seven weeks gun blasts from Litherland to Haydock have led to armed officers being deployed and streets being cordoned off.

The series of incidents represents one of the most ruthless sprees of the past few years - and appear to have seen “warning” shots fired at homes and vehicles replaced by more brutal incidents.

Shootings on Merseyside have risen over the past two consecutive years, with a toxic cocktail of factors thought to have been responsible.
-----

What has stood out about recent incidents is the number that have left people injured.
------------

But the last 28 months have seen more than 150 shootings on Merseyside, and a spate where so many consecutive blasts have led to injury has been rare.

But........they banned hand guns in Britain...and it is an island.....

Another possible concern is the use of handguns in recent attacks.

FAKE THREAD ALERT,!! Britain banned guns, therefore there are no guns being used in crimes.

 

[Toro]

idiots think that because criminals break a law, the law is useless

*omg, murder is against the law, but people still do it. murder laws are useless*

2aguy doesn't understand simple math.

He's like the rdean of guns.

 

[del]

idiots think that because criminals break a law, the law is useless

*omg, murder is against the law, but people still do it. murder laws are useless*

2aguy doesn't understand simple math.

i'll put it on the list

 

[2aguy]

idiots think that because criminals break a law, the law is useless

*omg, murder is against the law, but people still do it. murder laws are useless*

2aguy doesn't understand simple math.

You morons don't understand criminals....the truth.....facts......reality.....or anything, really...that is why you are left wingers.....those things don't matter to you....