Guns are not the problem but gun control is part of the solution

[S.J.]

That's funny I think it's the exact opposite. Guns ARE the problem, but gun control is NOT a solution. Not for this country anyways. Way too many guns, and way too powerful a gun lobby.

99.99712% of the guns in the US - 299,991,546 guns - are not involved in a murder each year
You look at the misuse of one gun and ignore the fact that >35,000 were not misused. Why?

I think you misunderstood my post. My opinion is that crimes committed that involved guns should carry far more severe punishments. That would be a much better deterent than banning guns.

Why? Would that make the victim any less dead?

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Well if guns aren't the problem then why do we need gun control?

 

[M14 Shooter]

That's funny I think it's the exact opposite. Guns ARE the problem, but gun control is NOT a solution. Not for this country anyways. Way too many guns, and way too powerful a gun lobby.

99.99712% of the guns in the US - 299,991,546 guns - are not involved in a murder each year
You look at the misuse of one gun and ignore the fact that >35,000 were not misused. Why?

I think you misunderstood my post. My opinion is that crimes committed that involved guns should carry far more severe punishments. That would be a much better deterent than banning guns.

-That- is true.

 

[Ame®icano]

Why? Would that make the victim any less dead?

Then explain why to imprison rapists at all? Would that make rape victims any less raped?

 

[Stephanie]

you notice under Obama EVERYTHING is a CRISIS.

don't forget their motto : never let a good crisis go to waste

and IF THERE isn't one CREATE it

Every week under this administration it's been one thing after another. Starting with how the police acted stupidly, to the OWS, to Ferguson, St. Louis, Baltimore. now using these people in SC?

wake up for crying out loud.

 

[BlackFlag]

That's funny I think it's the exact opposite. Guns ARE the problem, but gun control is NOT a solution. Not for this country anyways. Way too many guns, and way too powerful a gun lobby.

99.99712% of the guns in the US - 299,991,546 guns - are not involved in a murder each year
You look at the misuse of one gun and ignore the fact that >35,000 were not misused. Why?

I think you misunderstood my post. My opinion is that crimes committed that involved guns should carry far more severe punishments. That would be a much better deterent than banning guns.

Why? Would that make the victim any less dead?

The majority of crimes involved with guns don't result in fatalities.

 

[BlackFlag]

you notice under Obama EVERYTHING is a CRISIS.

don't forget their motto : never let a good crisis go to waste

and IF THERE isn't one CREATE it

Every week under this administration it's been one thing after another. Starting with how the police acted stupidly, to the OWS, to Ferguson, St. Louis, Baltimore. now using these people in SC?

wake up for crying out loud.

Whoa... how did you graduate from elementary school with they way you write?

Maybe conservatives are right and there is a HUGE problem with our education system!

 

[M14 Shooter]

That's funny I think it's the exact opposite. Guns ARE the problem, but gun control is NOT a solution. Not for this country anyways. Way too many guns, and way too powerful a gun lobby.

99.99712% of the guns in the US - 299,991,546 guns - are not involved in a murder each year
You look at the misuse of one gun and ignore the fact that >35,000 were not misused. Why?

I think you misunderstood my post. My opinion is that crimes committed that involved guns should carry far more severe punishments. That would be a much better deterent than banning guns.

Why? Would that make the victim any less dead?

No... but it would keep violent criminals off the streets longer.

 

[tinydancer]

The Australian stats are stunning because in 25 years death by gun has only dropped 12%.

BUT in the past decade death by knives has increased 11%.

So how has gun control worked when all that appears to have happened by the numbers is murdering sons of bitches just moved on to knives?

 

[S.J.]

Why? Would that make the victim any less dead?

Then explain why to imprison rapists at all? Would that make rape victims any less raped?

I didn't say they shouldn't be punished, but murder is murder. Why should the instrument make a difference? Are you saying that someone who stabs their victim to death should serve less time than the one who uses a gun?

 

[S.J.]

That's funny I think it's the exact opposite. Guns ARE the problem, but gun control is NOT a solution. Not for this country anyways. Way too many guns, and way too powerful a gun lobby.

99.99712% of the guns in the US - 299,991,546 guns - are not involved in a murder each year
You look at the misuse of one gun and ignore the fact that >35,000 were not misused. Why?

I think you misunderstood my post. My opinion is that crimes committed that involved guns should carry far more severe punishments. That would be a much better deterent than banning guns.

Why? Would that make the victim any less dead?

No... but it would keep violent criminals off the streets longer.

Except for the ones who use knives, clubs, hammers, etc.

 

[tinydancer]

you notice under Obama EVERYTHING is a CRISIS.

don't forget their motto : never let a good crisis go to waste

and IF THERE isn't one CREATE it

Every week under this administration it's been one thing after another. Starting with how the police acted stupidly, to the OWS, to Ferguson, St. Louis, Baltimore. now using these people in SC?

wake up for crying out loud.

Whoa... how did you graduate from elementary school with they way you write?

Maybe conservatives are right and there is a HUGE problem with our education system!

She's spot on with "never let a serious crisis go to waste". Every Democrat follows Rahm's Rule.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why? Would that make the victim any less dead?

Then explain why to imprison rapists at all? Would that make rape victims any less raped?

Huh?
The point is if you stab someone, strangle someone, or shoot someone the victim is still dead. Why discriminate based on the method used?

 

[Ame®icano]

The Australian stats are stunning because in 25 years death by gun has only dropped 12%.

BUT in the past decade death by knives has increased 11%.

So how has gun control worked when all that appears to have happened by the numbers is murdering sons of bitches just moved on to knives?

There is a liberal solution for that too...

 

[The Rabbi]

The Australian stats are stunning because in 25 years death by gun has only dropped 12%.

BUT in the past decade death by knives has increased 11%.

So how has gun control worked when all that appears to have happened by the numbers is murdering sons of bitches just moved on to knives?

There is a liberal solution for that too...

Dont give them ideas.
Those are also weapons. In truth, everything is a weapon if you know how to use it. I can kill someone with a marshmallow.

 

[BlackFlag]

you notice under Obama EVERYTHING is a CRISIS.

don't forget their motto : never let a good crisis go to waste

and IF THERE isn't one CREATE it

Every week under this administration it's been one thing after another. Starting with how the police acted stupidly, to the OWS, to Ferguson, St. Louis, Baltimore. now using these people in SC?

wake up for crying out loud.

Whoa... how did you graduate from elementary school with they way you write?

Maybe conservatives are right and there is a HUGE problem with our education system!

She's spot on with "never let a serious crisis go to waste". Every Democrat follows Rahm's Rule.

I know you don't actually believe what you said and only posted it because we're on a board that invites political argument; but you have to know that in a real life debate what you said would be eviscerated.

 

[Ame®icano]

Why? Would that make the victim any less dead?

Then explain why to imprison rapists at all? Would that make rape victims any less raped?

I didn't say they shouldn't be punished, but murder is murder. Why should the instrument make a difference? Are you saying that someone who stabs their victim to death should serve less time than the one who uses a gun?

No, I'm saying fry both of them.

 

[The Rabbi]

you notice under Obama EVERYTHING is a CRISIS.

don't forget their motto : never let a good crisis go to waste

and IF THERE isn't one CREATE it

Every week under this administration it's been one thing after another. Starting with how the police acted stupidly, to the OWS, to Ferguson, St. Louis, Baltimore. now using these people in SC?

wake up for crying out loud.

Whoa... how did you graduate from elementary school with they way you write?

Maybe conservatives are right and there is a HUGE problem with our education system!

She's spot on with "never let a serious crisis go to waste". Every Democrat follows Rahm's Rule.

I know you don't actually believe what you said and only posted it because we're on a board that invites political argument; but you have to know that in a real life debate what you said would be eviscerated.

Only because you could probably find a Democrats somewhere who didnt believe that.
But with this administration that is the rule, 100%. There has never been a crisis that Obama and his minions have not tried to exploit to push their agenda.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why? Would that make the victim any less dead?

Then explain why to imprison rapists at all? Would that make rape victims any less raped?

I didn't say they shouldn't be punished, but murder is murder. Why should the instrument make a difference? Are you saying that someone who stabs their victim to death should serve less time than the one who uses a gun?

No, I'm saying fry both of them.

I think we all violently agree here. The instrument is irrelevant to the crime.

 

[BlackFlag]

you notice under Obama EVERYTHING is a CRISIS.

don't forget their motto : never let a good crisis go to waste

and IF THERE isn't one CREATE it

Every week under this administration it's been one thing after another. Starting with how the police acted stupidly, to the OWS, to Ferguson, St. Louis, Baltimore. now using these people in SC?

wake up for crying out loud.

Whoa... how did you graduate from elementary school with they way you write?

Maybe conservatives are right and there is a HUGE problem with our education system!

She's spot on with "never let a serious crisis go to waste". Every Democrat follows Rahm's Rule.

I know you don't actually believe what you said and only posted it because we're on a board that invites political argument; but you have to know that in a real life debate what you said would be eviscerated.

Only because you could probably find a Democrats somewhere who didnt believe that.
But with this administration that is the rule, 100%. There has never been a crisis that Obama and his minions have not tried to exploit to push their agenda.

Yeah like Benghazi. Oh oops,