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Yes.Don't you? Not of anything?
It does answer the question.If it answers this question then no need to reply
i agree w/ all this... but human nature is abysmally FALLENJustice does not always mean punishment from someone who is "fed up". It might be well to remember that God is Love (as opposed to God is Fed Up). Love can bring about a more beautiful justice than can punishment.
I meet fine people everywhere I turn. I am a firm believer that there is the divine spark in almost all of us. Anyone who has gone through hard times him/herself find it easy to accept that people on the Internet have also been through difficult times.
There are two different thoughts on your first line. Are people doing what they want and they do not care whether or not God likes it? Or, are they trying to work to overcome a weakness and they want very much to succeed?Some people KNOW God does not like what they are doing but they do it over and over just the same
Do you think God is going to just keep letting them do that forever?
you DO believe in eternal Hell, don't u? or are you a closet JW or..... once saved always saved dude?
i have sympathy for those who are honestly seeking truthThere are two different thoughts on your first line. Are people doing what they want and they do not care whether or not God likes it? Or, are they trying to work to overcome a weakness and they want very much to succeed?
I believe in hell, meaning an eternal separation from God. I also believe God does not throw people into hell, people choose to go there rather than to love and serve God.
I pretty much disregard 'saved' and pay absolutely no attention to 'once saved, always saved'. I prefer redemption, that God's people have been redeemed and assured of this by Christ's life, death, and resurrection.
I'm getting mixed messages here.. your sins are forgiven or not? And you need to repent or not? If you need to repent what do you think he would have died for?Perhaps you do not fully understand Jesus' mission? He calls us to:
Jesus did not proclaim sins are forgiven, therefore there is:
- Repentance (turning away) from wrong-doing to obedience.
- Discern the will of God and follow it.
- When others fail and repent, forgive them completely, always.
- Sins are forgiven.
Because mankind still needs to heed the call to turn away from wrong-doing and to completely forgive those who repent those who transgress against us, there is every need for repentance (and confession), plus the greater act of remembering how completely God forgives the repentant (to death) so that we remember to forgive others just as thoroughly.
- No need to repent (turn away) from wrong doing.
- No need to discern the way of God nor obey Him.
- No need to forgive others their transgressions.
In the Sacrament of Reconciliation, Catholics still hear Christs own words--and the voice of all other Catholics--saying in unison, "Your sins are forgiven."
Your answer was wrong, obviously. It was devoid of logic. Like me calling an apple an orange. At least I don't badmouth you for it. Where are those christian values now?uranus is just playing a game.
He/She asked a question, he/she got an answer, and he's/she's upset because it's not what he/she wanted to hear.
The more he/she posts the more revealing he/she becomes.
Not worth the time for a serious discussion
What struck me in Gospel study years ago, is that I could not find a single time when Jesus spoke of forgiveness of sins being a future event after his death. In his own time, he always used the present tense: Your sins are forgiven and repentance for the forgiveness of sins (i.e., not sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins). Temple authorities immediately challenged him. By whose authority did he preach this new tenet or message? What was the sign it was from God.I'm getting mixed messages here.. your sins are forgiven or not? And you need to repent or not? If you need to repent what do you think he would have died for?
redemption is an ongoing, life long processThere are two different thoughts on your first line. Are people doing what they want and they do not care whether or not God likes it? Or, are they trying to work to overcome a weakness and they want very much to succeed?
I believe in hell, meaning an eternal separation from God. I also believe God does not throw people into hell, people choose to go there rather than to love and serve God.
I pretty much disregard 'saved' and pay absolutely no attention to 'once saved, always saved'. I prefer redemption, that God's people have been redeemed and assured of this by Christ's life, death, and resurrection.
This is not true... He was crucified bc He claimed to be God "If you have seen Me you have seen the Father" and etc...Jesus was crucified for his insistence that sins are forgiven, and he readily gave his life rather than recant.
So you're saying his supposed death would have been equal to animal sacrifice and benefitted only those living at that time?What struck me in Gospel study years ago, is that I could not find a single time when Jesus spoke of forgiveness of sins being a future event after his death. In his own time, he always used the present tense: Your sins are forgiven and repentance for the forgiveness of sins (i.e., not sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins). Temple authorities immediately challenged him. By whose authority did he preach this new tenet or message? What was the sign it was from God.
In the Old Testament, all new tenets-covenants-testaments involved a blood sacrifice. What sacrifice had taken place to introduce this new testament, this new covenant, between God and man? Temple authorities demanded to know.
Jesus was crucified for his insistence that sins are forgiven, and he readily gave his life rather than recant. His blood was the blood ushering in the New Testament, but God never does anything in half measures. Jesus was resurrected from the dead.
Jesus also spoke of repentance for the forgiveness of sins; of discerning the will of God and obedience to it.
I know people insist that someone had to be punished for the sins of mankind and that Jesus took on this punishment. I know scripture notes that Jesus died for our sins, so that sins are forgiven. Even in Jesus' and the Apostles' day Jews criticized the idea people could sin and be forgiven without effort on the part of the sinner. Since Apostolic times to this day, Catholics have been taught repentance for the forgiveness of sins, and that sins are forgiven.
I know that some people follow the belief that from the minute they are born, all sins they will ever commit are already forgiven. That is what Jesus' message, death, and resurrection means to them.
No. Not even close.So you're saying his supposed death would have been equal to animal sacrifice and benefitted only those living at that time?
I do wish you could make it simple.No. Not even close.
Covenants with God are everlasting, for all time--not only for those who were living in the day the covenant took place.I do wish you could make it simple.
God gave us free will. The world's problems are of our own making, not His.
It is not in God's job description to rescue us from our fuckups.
If you keep catch a child every time they fall, they will never learn to walk.
They are valid until they are replaced, unless stated otherwise, but that has nothing to do with anything.Covenants with God are everlasting, for all time--not only for those who were living in the day the covenant took place.
You have no idea why you were created. You assume things about God like you would of another human being — a typical atheist mistake.That's a great big steaming load of horseshit.
You know how I know there's no God? Two words: Childhood cancer.
Your "God" causes that. Your God allows it to happen. Apparently, your God revels in the suffering of innocent children who haven't "fucked up".
And you defend it...
You have no idea why you were created. You assume things about God like you would of another human being — a typical atheist mistake.
You made clear that you don't know why you were created. It was implied by your post. You were created to worship God.First off, I'm not an Atheist.
Second, I said nothing about why I was created, so I'm not sure what the fuck you're talking about there.
Third, one can only conclude that you ignored my point about childhood cancer because it makes you uncomfortable, because you know that no loving God would allow such a thing to exist. Children don't "fall down", as g5000 suggests, from childhood cancer. They die. Your God lets them die. Hell, he causes them to die. He is the very reason that countless innocent little children have died from cancer.
Your "God" disgusts me...
