Hillary: We Are in a "Narrative Fight" Against ISIS

[Weatherman2020]

How drugged is she????

Mommys little helper keeps the seizures down.

 

[TheOldSchool]

So you conservatives have completely given in to fear and terror because of pipsqueaks? Hmm.

The only cowards are the left who have your heads buried in your ass thinking they'll leave you alone.

The more terrified you appear, the happier ISIL will be. It helps with recruiting.

You don't know the difference between terrified and pissed off do you.

Of course I do. Pissed off is "let's go kill them all." Scared is "the brown people are all evil get them away from meeeeeee." Acting on either is typically a bad idea.

You leftards are terrified to even say Islamic terrorism as if the boogeyman will jump out of the bushes. Cowards want to pretend it's a war of words and fonts.

Your entire argument is that there is no narrative war, and here you are reminding us that you loons have been bitching about semantics for years.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The only cowards are the left who have your heads buried in your ass thinking they'll leave you alone.

The more terrified you appear, the happier ISIL will be. It helps with recruiting.

You don't know the difference between terrified and pissed off do you.

Of course I do. Pissed off is "let's go kill them all." Scared is "the brown people are all evil get them away from meeeeeee." Acting on either is typically a bad idea.

You leftards are terrified to even say Islamic terrorism as if the boogeyman will jump out of the bushes. Cowards want to pretend it's a war of words and fonts.

Your entire argument is that there is no narrative war, and here you are reminding us that you loons have been bitching about semantics for years.

It's about knowing who the enemy is, dufus. Frisking a 80 year old great grandmother the same as a 20 year old male middle easterner because you fuckheads are terrified to offend Islamos will have historians laughing at you until the end of time.

 

[Weatherman2020]

To a hammer everything is a nail.

To a politician everything is about the narrative.

the inability of Obama to see beyond his own hubris is one of the most defining characteristics of his presidency...

Don't worry.

Your republicans are gong to re-take the White House in January 2017, and we will see the return of Bush's big government surveillance state (where you talk tough but forget to protect the eastern seaboard of our nation).

Every time someone farts behind the dumpster at Denny's, Fox News will flash "Breaking News - Terrorism Alert".

We will once again be agitated by terminal, 24/7 Color Coded Warnings (because fear benefits your party).

The United States of Fear, brought to you by the Republican Party, whose lax gun laws kill far more people than the retarded sand-monkey living in his parent's basement in east bum-fuck New Jersey.

Don't worry! Washington will save us!

All we need to do is give the federal government more money and power.

What could go wrong?

(Idiots)

Poor baby.

 

[TheOldSchool]

The more terrified you appear, the happier ISIL will be. It helps with recruiting.

You don't know the difference between terrified and pissed off do you.

Of course I do. Pissed off is "let's go kill them all." Scared is "the brown people are all evil get them away from meeeeeee." Acting on either is typically a bad idea.

You leftards are terrified to even say Islamic terrorism as if the boogeyman will jump out of the bushes. Cowards want to pretend it's a war of words and fonts.

Your entire argument is that there is no narrative war, and here you are reminding us that you loons have been bitching about semantics for years.

It's about knowing who the enemy is, dufus. Frisking a 80 year old great grandmother the same as a 20 year old male middle easterner because you fuckheads are terrified to offend Islamos will have historians laughing at you until the end of time.

Pissing on the constitution because you fuckheads are terrified is not what made this country the great power that it is today.

 

[Timmy]

The more terrified you appear, the happier ISIL will be. It helps with recruiting.

You don't know the difference between terrified and pissed off do you.

Of course I do. Pissed off is "let's go kill them all." Scared is "the brown people are all evil get them away from meeeeeee." Acting on either is typically a bad idea.

You leftards are terrified to even say Islamic terrorism as if the boogeyman will jump out of the bushes. Cowards want to pretend it's a war of words and fonts.

Your entire argument is that there is no narrative war, and here you are reminding us that you loons have been bitching about semantics for years.

It's about knowing who the enemy is, dufus. Frisking a 80 year old great grandmother the same as a 20 year old male middle easterner because you fuckheads are terrified to offend Islamos will have historians laughing at you until the end of time.

Yeah, cause crazy ass terrorists won't use an old person? Especially when they known they aren't being checked .

 

[Zoom-boing]

Here's mrs. bill's "war of narrative"

St. Cloud mall knife jihad rampage vicitm.

 

[TheOldSchool]

You don't know the difference between terrified and pissed off do you.

Of course I do. Pissed off is "let's go kill them all." Scared is "the brown people are all evil get them away from meeeeeee." Acting on either is typically a bad idea.

You leftards are terrified to even say Islamic terrorism as if the boogeyman will jump out of the bushes. Cowards want to pretend it's a war of words and fonts.

Your entire argument is that there is no narrative war, and here you are reminding us that you loons have been bitching about semantics for years.

It's about knowing who the enemy is, dufus. Frisking a 80 year old great grandmother the same as a 20 year old male middle easterner because you fuckheads are terrified to offend Islamos will have historians laughing at you until the end of time.

Yeah, cause crazy ass terrorists won't use an old person? Especially when they known they aren't being checked .

Duh look at me forgetting the obvious. Yeah weatherman who vetted that old woman? There is no way to fully vet any old woman that's walking around. Any one of them could have an IED in their purse, ready to massacre you.

 

[Weatherman2020]

You don't know the difference between terrified and pissed off do you.

Of course I do. Pissed off is "let's go kill them all." Scared is "the brown people are all evil get them away from meeeeeee." Acting on either is typically a bad idea.

You leftards are terrified to even say Islamic terrorism as if the boogeyman will jump out of the bushes. Cowards want to pretend it's a war of words and fonts.

Your entire argument is that there is no narrative war, and here you are reminding us that you loons have been bitching about semantics for years.

It's about knowing who the enemy is, dufus. Frisking a 80 year old great grandmother the same as a 20 year old male middle easterner because you fuckheads are terrified to offend Islamos will have historians laughing at you until the end of time.

Pissing on the constitution because you fuckheads are terrified is not what made this country the great power that it is today.

Like I said, you want to view 80 year old great grandmothers the same as 20 year old males when getting on an airplane.
It's why the left are dangerous and terrorism in America is now the norm.

 

[westwall]

We are in a narrative fight. ISIS is surrounded on all fronts in a tiny strip of desert wasteland. Their only means of attacking the west is using social media to influence psychos already in the west with their narrative. That narrative is being supported by many in America who keep touting ISIS as some kind of invincible army. Listen to a Trump speech and you'll walk away thinking ISIS is the most powerful military force in the history of mankind.

So why doesn't Obama go in and finish ISIS off on that tiny strip of desert wasteland? What is he afraid of?

Because nobody wants him too. There is no stomach for boots on the ground after the Dubya disaster, and it would be a terrible idea anyways. America's best option is to wash its hands of the whole thing.

Wash their hands of the whole thing? Oh my, brilliant!! ISIS will surely go "oh look, obama has walked away. Yay! We will no longer terrorize anyone! "

ISIS was born from American meddling, just like every notable terrorist group that came before it. There is nothing to gain from continuing to screw around there.

Yes, it was. From obummer. It was his policies that directly led to the formation of ISIS.

 

[Londoner]

It's a sick fucking joke!

Terrorism benefits Republicans. It allows them to move money from social programs & public infrastructure to the weapons contractors who finance their elections.

It gives the neocons a national security context for creating military bases at the foot of the world's largest remaining oil fields.

It allows their politicians to control the headlines with fear so they don't have to answer questions about their failed economy (see 2008 when they used the war on terrorism to distract us from the nuclear bomb their policies detonated over the housing/financial markets).

It allows them to build secretive KGB-like agencies, like Homeland Security, staffed with surveillance bureaucrats who empower the executive to act against any citizen who threatens the concentrated power of Big Government.

The Terrorist Threat is VERY real, but Republicans NEVER - and I mean NEVER - ask if giving Washington more power/money will create unintended consequences.

Republicans tell us that government doesn't have the competence to run a laundromat, yet they give it the power to rebuild whole Arab nations? (And because they trust government so deeply they don't ask if nation-building will create longterm regional instability and make everything worse?)

What? Are you fucking kidding me?

When will Republicans learn that giving Washington more money and power will only make things worse?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Here's mrs. bill's "war of narrative"

St. Cloud mall knife jihad rampage vicitm.

Thankfully an NRA instructed was there to deliver the taxpayer relief shot and save who knows how many lives.

 

[Timmy]

Here's mrs. bill's "war of narrative"

St. Cloud mall knife jihad rampage vicitm.

Good thing he didn't have a gun!

So what should we do? Send 49,000 troops to the Mid East ? Would that have stopped the psycho ?

 

[Weatherman2020]

It's a sick fucking joke!

Terrorism benefits Republicans. It allows them to move money from social programs & public infrastructure to the weapons contractors who finance their elections.

It gives the neocons a national security context for creating military bases at the foot of the world's largest remaining oil fields.

It allows their politicians to control the headlines with fear so they don't have to answer questions about their failed economy (see 2008 when they used the war on terrorism to distract us from the nuclear bomb their policies detonated over the housing/financial markets).

It allows them to build secretive KGB-like agencies, like Homeland Security, staffed with surveillance bureaucrats who empower the executive to act against any citizen who threatens the power of government.

The Terrorist Threat is VERY real, but Republicans NEVER - and I mean NEVER - ask if giving more power/money to Washington will solve the problem or make it worse.

Republicans tell us that government doesn't have the competence to run a laundromat, yet they give it the power to rebuild whole Arab governments? What? Are you fucking kidding me?

When will Republicans learn that giving Washington more money and power will only make things worse?

Tell your Muslim comrades to start acting civilized then.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Of course I do. Pissed off is "let's go kill them all." Scared is "the brown people are all evil get them away from meeeeeee." Acting on either is typically a bad idea.

You leftards are terrified to even say Islamic terrorism as if the boogeyman will jump out of the bushes. Cowards want to pretend it's a war of words and fonts.

Your entire argument is that there is no narrative war, and here you are reminding us that you loons have been bitching about semantics for years.

It's about knowing who the enemy is, dufus. Frisking a 80 year old great grandmother the same as a 20 year old male middle easterner because you fuckheads are terrified to offend Islamos will have historians laughing at you until the end of time.

Yeah, cause crazy ass terrorists won't use an old person? Especially when they known they aren't being checked .

Duh look at me forgetting the obvious. Yeah weatherman who vetted that old woman? There is no way to fully vet any old woman that's walking around. Any one of them could have an IED in their purse, ready to massacre you.

Shitforbrains thinks 80 year old women are blowing up people.

 

[Londoner]

It's a sick fucking joke!

Terrorism benefits Republicans. It allows them to move money from social programs & public infrastructure to the weapons contractors who finance their elections.

It gives the neocons a national security context for creating military bases at the foot of the world's largest remaining oil fields.

It allows their politicians to control the headlines with fear so they don't have to answer questions about their failed economy (see 2008 when they used the war on terrorism to distract us from the nuclear bomb their policies detonated over the housing/financial markets).

It allows them to build secretive KGB-like agencies, like Homeland Security, staffed with surveillance bureaucrats who empower the executive to act against any citizen who threatens the power of government.

The Terrorist Threat is VERY real, but Republicans NEVER - and I mean NEVER - ask if giving more power/money to Washington will solve the problem or make it worse.

Republicans tell us that government doesn't have the competence to run a laundromat, yet they give it the power to rebuild whole Arab governments? What? Are you fucking kidding me?

When will Republicans learn that giving Washington more money and power will only make things worse?

Tell your Muslim comrades to start acting civilized then.

Those sand-monkeys ain't my comrades, but I can tell you this: they will never act civilized as long as the Republican party is willing to do their dirty work in the form of bankrupting America and destroying our civil liberties every time someone lights a firecracker behind Dennys.

 

[Londoner]

(Psst: they want FOX News to disrupt American life by pumping color coded fear into every living room. They want you to fear your neighbor's dimly lit house. They want you to fear your shoes and toothpaste tube. . . Problem is: they can't make every American live in fear unless we elect another Republican oaf for president.

They need your side to win because they know your side benefits politically and electorally by spreading fear. This is why they are ramping up their October Surprises. What an ally they have found in you.)

(God help us)

 

[TooTall]

You don't know the difference between terrified and pissed off do you.

Of course I do. Pissed off is "let's go kill them all." Scared is "the brown people are all evil get them away from meeeeeee." Acting on either is typically a bad idea.

You leftards are terrified to even say Islamic terrorism as if the boogeyman will jump out of the bushes. Cowards want to pretend it's a war of words and fonts.

Your entire argument is that there is no narrative war, and here you are reminding us that you loons have been bitching about semantics for years.

It's about knowing who the enemy is, dufus. Frisking a 80 year old great grandmother the same as a 20 year old male middle easterner because you fuckheads are terrified to offend Islamos will have historians laughing at you until the end of time.

Pissing on the constitution because you fuckheads are terrified is not what made this country the great power that it is today.

FDR pissed on the Constitution and put Japanese-Americans in internment camps. I don't think he was terrified, just pissed off about Pearl Harbor.

 

[TooTall]

Nonsense. They are pipsqueaks. All the more embarrassment to Obama that he hasn't had the backbone to squash them.

So you conservatives have completely given in to fear and terror because of pipsqueaks? Hmm.

The only cowards are the left who have your heads buried in your ass thinking they'll leave you alone.

The more terrified you appear, the happier ISIL will be. It helps with recruiting.

You don't know the difference between terrified and pissed off do you.

Of course I do. Pissed off is "let's go kill them all." Scared is "the brown people are all evil get them away from meeeeeee." Acting on either is typically a bad idea.

Wrong. Pissed off is identifying the enemy and taking away their ability to wage war. Terrified is being afraid to even say the words Islamist Terrorist for fear they will attack you.

 

[Fueri]

To a hammer everything is a nail.

To a politician everything is about the narrative.

the inability of Obama to see beyond his own hubris is one of the most defining characteristics of his presidency...

yet if you haven't noticed neither party, and certainly not Trump, has displayed a coherent strategy to attacking terrorist forces abroad without inflaming muslim passions here.

Well, I guess we might differ a bit on exactly what the hierarchy of importance is there or even if these things should necessarily be linked.

While I can see the importance of telling muslims here 'this isn't about you', I think there's been too much mincing around on the topic, and this latest statement is just another example of that.

Let the military experts come up with the plan and let the politicians sell it as best they are able without hobbling that plan.

Well the military experts pretty much didn't get it done in Iraq I Iraq II or Afghan

To a hammer everything is a nail.

To a politician everything is about the narrative.

the inability of Obama to see beyond his own hubris is one of the most defining characteristics of his presidency...

yet if you haven't noticed neither party, and certainly not Trump, has displayed a coherent strategy to attacking terrorist forces abroad without inflaming muslim passions here.

Well, I guess we might differ a bit on exactly what the hierarchy of importance is there or even if these things should necessarily be linked.

While I can see the importance of telling muslims here 'this isn't about you', I think there's been too much mincing around on the topic, and this latest statement is just another example of that.

Let the military experts come up with the plan and let the politicians sell it as best they are able without hobbling that plan.

The military plans haven't been working out so well. To be fair to the generals, imo neither Poppy nor W consulted them on overall strategy, and it would not have been appropriate anyway. But if Obama concluded there is no US military solution to terrorism perpetrated by deluded muslims, I think the evidence is on his side.

Syria is simply a debacle we never should have lurched into. However, Obama's strategy of letting the Muslims and Kurds fight Isis while we are more or less supportive does seem to be working. I have a difficult time making any rational argument of why THAT should be bugging muslims over here. Afghanistan is another matter though. He should not have gotten into nationbuilding.

I would say this a very real reason to fear Hillary, and her emails are not, but she's not saying she'll "bomb the shit out of them."

I don't know if the military plans haven't been working out so well because they have been bad plans put forth by the military or because they've been hobbled by political goals, at least under this president.

We can argue there isn't a military solution, and I'd probably agree with that in terms of no path to total 'victory', but we are going to be embroiled in this in a military capacity for the foreseeable future.

I'd rather have the military guys coming up with the optimal plan for the military aspects of this and the political narrative being secondary to that, than the other way around.

People will argue, of course, that these things are inextricably linked in that if we don't pay attention to the narrative or perception or whatever, that this only helps the terrorists, but while I see the truth in that, I'd think the military experts know this also and are capable of taking that into account.

bottom line, I think this administration has been too focused on the optics and or policy goals, which has led to micromanagement of the military in order to suit that goal, which is something some of his ex Secs of Defense have corroborated in rare criticisms of a sitting president.

Iraq and W was a debacle. Don't even try to claim victory for that clusterfk. I think you can make a good argument that both parties have been tasking the military with missions they can't accomplish. We could have put 600K into Iraq and still not have prevented the Sunni Shia civil war where we sat around watching the sunni lose. And that is the real genesis of Isis.

And THAT imo is the central point of Old School.

Wtf are you talking about. I did no such thing.

Boooosh!

Good grief.