Hitler, Fascism and the right wing

[Contumacious]

Frigid is obviously totally ignorant of the basic facts of history, but he feels qualified to lecture us on them.

Apparently these basic facts are so obvious that no one bothers to actually source them.

Like Hitler Nationalizing industry, which must have been really popular as I can't find any information about this supposed Nationalization on the web. But I can find out about his privatization.

Hitler created Volkswagen as a state-company .

BULLSHIT.

Volkswagen

Despite heavy lobbying in favour of one of the existing projects, it soon became apparent that private industry could not turn out a car for only 990RM. Thus, Hitler chose to sponsor an all-new, state-owned factory using Ferdinand Porsche's design (with some of Hitler's design constraints, including an air-cooled engine so nothing could freeze). The intention was that ordinary Germans would buy the car by means of a savings scheme ("Fünf Mark die Woche musst du sparen, willst du im eigenen Wagen fahren" – "Five marks a week you must put aside, if you want to drive your own car"), which around 336,000 people eventually paid into. The savings of these 336,000 people were seized by the Russians in 1945 when they captured Berlin. However, the entire project was financially unsound, and only the corruption and lack of accountability of the Nazi regime made it possible."

 

[Contumacious]

He did not privatized industry - he did not nationalized it.

He was simply a fascist - fascists tend to massively regulate - they don't nationalize it.

The point being made here is that Hitler was a Socialist. To be a Socialist he had to have Nationalized industry.

Would you say Hitler wasn't a Socialist then?

Early on he was a socialist.

But he realized that socialists can not be trusted with the economy , so became a fascist.

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No, not really. Early on he didn't seem to know what to think. He was actually against those who had lost Germany WW1. The fact that they were from the old guard was something he went against. He hated Capitalism because of the fact that those who controlled WW1 in Germany, the Emperor etc, were all Capitalists.

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Incorrect.



Junker, (German: “country squire”), member of the landowning aristocracy of Prussia and eastern Germany, which, under the German Empire (1871–1918) and the Weimar Republic (1919–33), exercised substantial political power. Otto von Bismarck himself, the imperial chancellor during 1871–90, was of Junker stock and at first was regarded as representing its interests. Politically, Junkers stood for extreme conservatism, support of the monarchy and military tradition, and protectionist policies for agriculture. The Agrarian League represented Junker interests throughout the imperial era. Because the Junkers staffed the Prussian army, which had brought about Germany’s unification, they were accorded great influence, particularly in Prussia, where a highly illiberal constitution remained in force (1850–1918). During the Weimar period, Junkers were continuously hostile to the republic, the collapse of which contributed to the rise of Adolf Hitler.

Also , the Bismarck Administration was responsible for the socialist SOCIAL SECURITY which FDR emulated.

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[NYcarbineer]

I've read loads of them. I don't see a whole lot of difference between the two systems. Please explain the differences.

Allow me...nazis were rightwing....there....that pretty much sums up their argument....

How do we know they were right-wing? We know because all the pinko history professors say so.

There, that really sums up their argument.

If the Nazis were the left, who were the rightwingers in Germany in the 20's and 30's?

 

[Contumacious]

Short answer: you don't know a fucking thing about Franco's economics, and you don't care.

BTW, I know people keep telling you this, but I'll do it one more time to reinforce the lesson. Telling people to "go read a book" is not proof of anything. It's an admission that you are unable to post any actual facts.

Actually I've read quite a lot about Fascist economics in a variety of countries - again, this is covered in the Ian Kerhshaw book I've cited a few times. Spain is quite a classic example of extreme right-wing eonomics. I'm not an expert, but I know enough to see the obvious.

Put it this way - does THIS sound like socialism to you?

As these developments steadily converted Spain's economic structure into one more closely resembling a free-market economy, t.

HUH?

If it "resembles" then it isn't.

A homosexual individual "resembles" a heterosexual individual.

In a free market economy there is NO NO NO government involvement. N O N E >

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[Contumacious]

I've read loads of them. I don't see a whole lot of difference between the two systems. Please explain the differences.

Allow me...nazis were rightwing....there....that pretty much sums up their argument....

How do we know they were right-wing? We know because all the pinko history professors say so.

There, that really sums up their argument.

If the Nazis were the left, who were the rightwingers in Germany in the 20's and 30's?

This line from "Miy Cousin Vinny" should illustrate how irrelevant your question is

"Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along. You get thirsty. You spot a little brook. You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water. BAM! A fucking bullet rips off part of your head! Your brains are laying on the ground in little bloody pieces! Now I ask you: Would you give a fuck what kind of pants the son of a bitch who shot you was wearing?!"

–Mona Lisa Vito (Oscar winner Marisa Tomei) in My Cousin Vinny

 

[NYcarbineer]

I've read loads of them. I don't see a whole lot of difference between the two systems. Please explain the differences.

Allow me...nazis were rightwing....there....that pretty much sums up their argument....

How do we know they were right-wing? We know because all the pinko history professors say so.

There, that really sums up their argument.

If the Nazis were the left, who were the rightwingers in Germany in the 20's and 30's?

This line from "Miy Cousin Vinny" should illustrate how irrelevant your question is

"Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along. You get thirsty. You spot a little brook. You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water. BAM! A fucking bullet rips off part of your head! Your brains are laying on the ground in little bloody pieces! Now I ask you: Would you give a fuck what kind of pants the son of a bitch who shot you was wearing?!"

–Mona Lisa Vito (Oscar winner Marisa Tomei) in My Cousin Vinny

Okay you've fulfilled a lifelong dream of working a Cousin Vinny reference into a post,

now how about addressing the issue?

 

[Contumacious]

I've read loads of them. I don't see a whole lot of difference between the two systems. Please explain the differences.

Allow me...nazis were rightwing....there....that pretty much sums up their argument....

How do we know they were right-wing? We know because all the pinko history professors say so.

There, that really sums up their argument.

If the Nazis were the left, who were the rightwingers in Germany in the 20's and 30's?

This line from "Miy Cousin Vinny" should illustrate how irrelevant your question is

"Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along. You get thirsty. You spot a little brook. You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water. BAM! A fucking bullet rips off part of your head! Your brains are laying on the ground in little bloody pieces! Now I ask you: Would you give a fuck what kind of pants the son of a bitch who shot you was wearing?!"

–Mona Lisa Vito (Oscar winner Marisa Tomei) in My Cousin Vinny

Okay you've fulfilled a lifelong dream of working a Cousin Vinny reference into a post,

now how about addressing the issue?

Listen Ding Dong, if you oppose tyranny why the fuck do you care if Hitler or any other tyrant was Left or Right wing ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


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[NYcarbineer]

Allow me...nazis were rightwing....there....that pretty much sums up their argument....

How do we know they were right-wing? We know because all the pinko history professors say so.

There, that really sums up their argument.

If the Nazis were the left, who were the rightwingers in Germany in the 20's and 30's?

This line from "Miy Cousin Vinny" should illustrate how irrelevant your question is

"Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along. You get thirsty. You spot a little brook. You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water. BAM! A fucking bullet rips off part of your head! Your brains are laying on the ground in little bloody pieces! Now I ask you: Would you give a fuck what kind of pants the son of a bitch who shot you was wearing?!"

–Mona Lisa Vito (Oscar winner Marisa Tomei) in My Cousin Vinny

Okay you've fulfilled a lifelong dream of working a Cousin Vinny reference into a post,

now how about addressing the issue?

Listen Ding Dong, if you oppose tyranny why the fuck do you care if Hitler or any other tyrant was Left or Right wing ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


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I care that the rightwing propaganda machine shamelessly floods all of the media they can with these lies,
and, unfortunately,

propaganda works.

 

[Contumacious]

How do we know they were right-wing? We know because all the pinko history professors say so.

There, that really sums up their argument.

If the Nazis were the left, who were the rightwingers in Germany in the 20's and 30's?

This line from "Miy Cousin Vinny" should illustrate how irrelevant your question is

"Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along. You get thirsty. You spot a little brook. You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water. BAM! A fucking bullet rips off part of your head! Your brains are laying on the ground in little bloody pieces! Now I ask you: Would you give a fuck what kind of pants the son of a bitch who shot you was wearing?!"

–Mona Lisa Vito (Oscar winner Marisa Tomei) in My Cousin Vinny

Okay you've fulfilled a lifelong dream of working a Cousin Vinny reference into a post,

now how about addressing the issue?

Listen Ding Dong, if you oppose tyranny why the fuck do you care if Hitler or any other tyrant was Left or Right wing ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


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I care that the rightwing propaganda machine shamelessly floods all of the media they can with these lies,
and, unfortunately,

propaganda works.

Doesn't the leftwing propaganda machine, also, shamelessly floods all of the media they can with lies?

And since you are astute and recognize propaganda why then does it work?!?!?!?

 

[dcraelin]

Communists did not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understood economics.

Conservatives do not believe in Democracy, they believe government should be run by an elite group of folks who understand economics

Conservatives = Communists

 

[NYcarbineer]

If the Nazis were the left, who were the rightwingers in Germany in the 20's and 30's?

This line from "Miy Cousin Vinny" should illustrate how irrelevant your question is

"Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along. You get thirsty. You spot a little brook. You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water. BAM! A fucking bullet rips off part of your head! Your brains are laying on the ground in little bloody pieces! Now I ask you: Would you give a fuck what kind of pants the son of a bitch who shot you was wearing?!"

–Mona Lisa Vito (Oscar winner Marisa Tomei) in My Cousin Vinny

Okay you've fulfilled a lifelong dream of working a Cousin Vinny reference into a post,

now how about addressing the issue?

Listen Ding Dong, if you oppose tyranny why the fuck do you care if Hitler or any other tyrant was Left or Right wing ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


.

I care that the rightwing propaganda machine shamelessly floods all of the media they can with these lies,
and, unfortunately,

propaganda works.

Doesn't the leftwing propaganda machine, also, shamelessly floods all of the media they can with lies?

And since you are astute and recognize propaganda why then does it work?!?!?!?

Do I?

 

[NYcarbineer]

If the Nazis were the left, who were the rightwingers in Germany in the 20's and 30's?

This line from "Miy Cousin Vinny" should illustrate how irrelevant your question is

"Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along. You get thirsty. You spot a little brook. You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water. BAM! A fucking bullet rips off part of your head! Your brains are laying on the ground in little bloody pieces! Now I ask you: Would you give a fuck what kind of pants the son of a bitch who shot you was wearing?!"

–Mona Lisa Vito (Oscar winner Marisa Tomei) in My Cousin Vinny

Okay you've fulfilled a lifelong dream of working a Cousin Vinny reference into a post,

now how about addressing the issue?

Listen Ding Dong, if you oppose tyranny why the fuck do you care if Hitler or any other tyrant was Left or Right wing ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


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I care that the rightwing propaganda machine shamelessly floods all of the media they can with these lies,
and, unfortunately,

propaganda works.

Doesn't the leftwing propaganda machine, also, shamelessly floods all of the media they can with lies?

And since you are astute and recognize propaganda why then does it work?!?!?!?

Since it is fact that Hitler and the Nazis were not liberals, what is propagandistic about asserting the facts?

 

[2aguy]

–Mona Lisa Vito (Oscar winner Marisa Tomei) in My Cousin Vinny

I don't think that she deserved the oscar that year......

 

[Contumacious]

Communists did not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understood economics.

Conservatives do not believe in Democracy, they believe government should be run by an elite group of folks who understand economics

Conservatives = Communists

Communists do not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understands economics.

Conservatives do not believe in Democracy, they believe government should be run by an elite group of folks who understand economics

Liberals do not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understood economics.

This line from "Miy Cousin Vinny" should illustrate how irrelevant your question is

"Imagine you’re a deer. You’re prancing along. You get thirsty. You spot a little brook. You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water. BAM! A fucking bullet rips off part of your head! Your brains are laying on the ground in little bloody pieces! Now I ask you: Would you give a fuck what kind of pants the son of a bitch who shot you was wearing?!"

–Mona Lisa Vito (Oscar winner Marisa Tomei) in My Cousin Vinny

Okay you've fulfilled a lifelong dream of working a Cousin Vinny reference into a post,

now how about addressing the issue?

Listen Ding Dong, if you oppose tyranny why the fuck do you care if Hitler or any other tyrant was Left or Right wing ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


.

I care that the rightwing propaganda machine shamelessly floods all of the media they can with these lies,
and, unfortunately,

propaganda works.

Doesn't the leftwing propaganda machine, also, shamelessly floods all of the media they can with lies?

And since you are astute and recognize propaganda why then does it work?!?!?!?

Since it is fact that Hitler and the Nazis were not liberals, what is propagandistic about asserting the facts?

Doesn't present day "Liberalism" support government supremacy?

Didn't the nazis support government supremacy?

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[PaintMyHouse]

Communists did not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understood economics.

Conservatives do not believe in Democracy, they believe government should be run by an elite group of folks who understand economics

Conservatives = Communists

Communists do not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understands economics.

Conservatives do not believe in Democracy, they believe government should be run by an elite group of folks who understand economics

Liberals do not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understood economics.

Okay you've fulfilled a lifelong dream of working a Cousin Vinny reference into a post,

now how about addressing the issue?

Listen Ding Dong, if you oppose tyranny why the fuck do you care if Hitler or any other tyrant was Left or Right wing ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


.

I care that the rightwing propaganda machine shamelessly floods all of the media they can with these lies,
and, unfortunately,

propaganda works.

Doesn't the leftwing propaganda machine, also, shamelessly floods all of the media they can with lies?

And since you are astute and recognize propaganda why then does it work?!?!?!?

Since it is fact that Hitler and the Nazis were not liberals, what is propagandistic about asserting the facts?

Doesn't present day "Liberalism" support government supremacy?

Didn't the nazis support government supremacy?

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No, and No. They had a dictator dummy.

 

[Contumacious]

Communists did not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understood economics.

Conservatives do not believe in Democracy, they believe government should be run by an elite group of folks who understand economics

Conservatives = Communists

Communists do not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understands economics.

Conservatives do not believe in Democracy, they believe government should be run by an elite group of folks who understand economics

Liberals do not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understood economics.

Listen Ding Dong, if you oppose tyranny why the fuck do you care if Hitler or any other tyrant was Left or Right wing ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


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I care that the rightwing propaganda machine shamelessly floods all of the media they can with these lies,
and, unfortunately,

propaganda works.

Doesn't the leftwing propaganda machine, also, shamelessly floods all of the media they can with lies?

And since you are astute and recognize propaganda why then does it work?!?!?!?

Since it is fact that Hitler and the Nazis were not liberals, what is propagandistic about asserting the facts?

Doesn't present day "Liberalism" support government supremacy?

Didn't the nazis support government supremacy?

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No, and No. They had a dictator dummy.

Wasn't the dictator ELECTED TO POWER?

Doesn't present day "Liberalism" support government supremacy?

Didn't the nazis support government supremacy?

Who is the dummy?

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[PaintMyHouse]

Communists did not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understood economics.

Conservatives do not believe in Democracy, they believe government should be run by an elite group of folks who understand economics

Conservatives = Communists

Communists do not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understands economics.

Conservatives do not believe in Democracy, they believe government should be run by an elite group of folks who understand economics

Liberals do not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understood economics.

I care that the rightwing propaganda machine shamelessly floods all of the media they can with these lies,
and, unfortunately,

propaganda works.

Doesn't the leftwing propaganda machine, also, shamelessly floods all of the media they can with lies?

And since you are astute and recognize propaganda why then does it work?!?!?!?

Since it is fact that Hitler and the Nazis were not liberals, what is propagandistic about asserting the facts?

Doesn't present day "Liberalism" support government supremacy?

Didn't the nazis support government supremacy?

/

No, and No. They had a dictator dummy.

Wasn't the dictator ELECTED TO POWER?

Doesn't present day "Liberalism" support government supremacy?

Didn't the nazis support government supremacy?

Who is the dummy?

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No, he was never elected, at least not by the people. He lost both elections that he ran in. He was appointed and then took power over the whole damn thing. Learn fucking history, then learn Liberalism. You know jack-shit about both.

 

[Contumacious]

No, he was never elected, at least not by the people. He lost both elections that he ran in. He was appointed and then took power over the whole damn thing. Learn fucking history, then learn Liberalism. You know jack-shit about both.

Doesn't present day "Liberalism" support government supremacy?

Adolf Hitler's rise to power

The Nazi party lost 35 seats in the November 1932 election, but remained the Reichstag's largest party. The most shocking move of the early election campaign was to send the SA to support a Rotfront action against the transport agency and in support of a strike.

After Chancellor Papen left office, he secretly told Hitler that he still held considerable sway with president Hindenburg and that he would make Hitler chancellor as long as he, Papen, could be the vice chancellor.


Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor on January 30, 1933, in a coalition arrangement between the Nazis and the Nationalist-Conservatives. Papen was to serve as Vice-Chancellor in a majority conservative Cabinet – still falsely believing that he could "tame" Hitler.[43] Initially, Papen did speak out against some Nazi excesses, and only narrowly escaped death in the night of the long knives, whereafter he ceased to openly criticize the regime.


On 30 January 1933, Adolf Hitler was appointed chancellor of a coalition government of the NSDAP-DNVP Party. The SA and SS led torchlight parades throughout Berlin. In the coalition government, three members of the cabinet were Nazis: Hitler, Wilhelm Frick (Minister of the Interior) and Hermann Göring (Minister Without Portfolio).

Politics as usual.

 

[bripat9643]

Communists did not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understood economics.

Conservatives do not believe in Democracy, they believe government should be run by an elite group of folks who understand economics

Conservatives = Communists

Nope. I don't believe in government period. That's why it should be kept as small as possible.

 

[bripat9643]

Communists did not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understood economics.

Conservatives do not believe in Democracy, they believe government should be run by an elite group of folks who understand economics

Conservatives = Communists

Communists do not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understands economics.

Conservatives do not believe in Democracy, they believe government should be run by an elite group of folks who understand economics

Liberals do not believe in Democracy, they believed government should be run by an elite group of folks who understood economics.

Doesn't the leftwing propaganda machine, also, shamelessly floods all of the media they can with lies?

And since you are astute and recognize propaganda why then does it work?!?!?!?

Since it is fact that Hitler and the Nazis were not liberals, what is propagandistic about asserting the facts?

Doesn't present day "Liberalism" support government supremacy?

Didn't the nazis support government supremacy?

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No, and No. They had a dictator dummy.

Wasn't the dictator ELECTED TO POWER?

Doesn't present day "Liberalism" support government supremacy?

Didn't the nazis support government supremacy?

Who is the dummy?

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No, he was never elected, at least not by the people. He lost both elections that he ran in. He was appointed and then took power over the whole damn thing. Learn fucking history, then learn Liberalism. You know jack-shit about both.

He gained office according to the rules of German democracy. His party won the most seats in the legislature which made him the correct choice to be chancellor.

Are you going to claim that Eric Holder did not gain office democratically?