HOLY TOLEDO! New poll has Trump at 32% WhoooooooooooooHoooooooooooooooooo!

[Statistikhengst]

I'm from the Midwest, the term boy doesn't necessarily mean black or race. You all need to stop seeing "racists" at every turn. It's stupid...and worn out

And we only have your word for that and you lie effortlessly.

Once again, old fool, point out a lie. I seem to recall you tried this once before and got your bell rang. Idiot

You lied when you said your use of the word "boy" was not racial. And your claim to have rung my bell is another lie.

You're an annoying old man, boy is not always racial, because YOU claim it is means little. stop being an unproductive asshole and stay on topic, fool

well, well, well it seems even the courts agree with me. I win!!!!!!

Appeals Court: Call Black Guys ‘Boy’ All You Want, It’s Not Racist


Most everyone agrees that, after Barack Obama was elected, almost all racism in America ended. But there’s still a little racism around, if you can find it! Still, you will need to establish a consensus of white people before you can truly deem someone’s actions to be motivated by racial animus. Take, for instance, the case of an African-American chicken plant employee who started with a job hanging live chickens onto hooks and worked his way up to the bottom rungs of management, then got passed over for promotion in favor of two white guys by a white boss who called him “boy.” Would you say that maybe there was some racism at play here? Two overwhelmingly white juries in Alabama did, as did John Roberts’ Supreme Court! Thank goodness the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals is here to stop all this race-card playing.

Did you know that “boy” is just a totally neutral word, with no racial connotations whatsoever? Every single earnest movie about racism made in the 1980s that you ever watched was a dirty lie.

Last month, for the third time and in the face of a 2006 rebuke from the United States Supreme Court, the federal appeals court in Atlanta said there were no racial overtones when a white supervisor called an adult black man “boy.”

“The usages were conversational,” the majority explained, repeating what it had told the trial court after the Supreme Court ruled, and “nonracial in context.” Even if “somehow construed as racial,” the unsigned 2-to-1 decision went on, “the comments were ambiguous stray remarks” that were not proof of employment discrimination.
…
The Supreme Court unanimously reversed [an earlier] decision, suggesting that the real world was the right modifier. ‘The speaker’s meaning may depend on various factors including context, inflection, tone of voice, local custom and historical usage,’ the justices said in an unsigned opinion.


Read more at Appeals Court Call Black Guys Boy All You Want It s Not Racist - Wonkette

Pssssh: it's always about context. I know, I know, that's a concept that goes right over Righties' heads...

 

[Statistikhengst]

Trump is doing very well currently , who knows what the future brings . I'm happy that Trump is in the mix with his ideas .

sure he is running a PR and not an election campaign so far.

He's running a carnival sideshow.

Beats the hell out of Jeb Bush's campaign doesn't it now. Old Jeb just isn't Mr. Excitement is he?

Trump is ECW. Chair shots. Top ropes. Rage in the cage. Hell in the cell. The Donald has brought the furniture baby!

Bush is the Scout Leader explaining safety tips for roasting marshmallows.

Ok, that WAS funny. Gee, you seem to have missed this posting:

HOLY TOLEDO New poll has Trump at 32 WhoooooooooooooHoooooooooooooooooo Page 16 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Was that perhaps too much information for you?

 

[Statistikhengst]

good , let the 'hispanics' be inflamed

Trump leads all GOP candidates with Latino voters with a commanding 34%
(Including Rubio and Cruz, the actual Latinos in the race.)

In REPUBLICAN polling.
Republican Latinos are a drop in the bucket in Republican polling and an even smaller drop within the Latino voting group itself.

Are you having difficulty understanding this? Why yes, I think you are!

 

[Boss]

In REPUBLICAN polling.
Republican Latinos are a drop in the bucket in Republican polling and an even smaller drop within the Latino voting group itself.

This might be a difficult concept for you but people (even Latinos) change their minds on party all the time. They are not all sheep like you who will follow the Big D over any waterfall. Truth is, we simply don't know how many Republican Latinos will vote this time... half the country never votes.

Nevertheless... It's beyond ridiculous that you want to think we should expect Trump to be winning Democrat Latino votes during his Republican primary race. And another thing... Conservatives don't pander to special interests... all Americans are equal. They don't stereotype individuals and put them in a box and say... we gotta say this and that for THOSE kind of people... That's what racist bigoted dividers like YOU do.

I'll make a bold prediction right here and now... IF Trump WINS the GOP nomination, he will carry both the Latino and Black vote against Hillary. Bookmark the post so you can throw it in my face if I am wrong... I don't mind admitting I could be wrong... but I bet it's much closer than in any recent election.

 

[Statistikhengst]

In REPUBLICAN polling.
Republican Latinos are a drop in the bucket in Republican polling and an even smaller drop within the Latino voting group itself.

This might be a difficult concept for you but people (even Latinos) change their minds on party all the time. They are not all sheep like you who will follow the Big D over any waterfall. Truth is, we simply don't know how many Republican Latinos will vote this time... half the country never votes.

Nevertheless... It's beyond ridiculous that you want to think we should expect Trump to be winning Democrat Latino votes during his Republican primary race. And another thing... Conservatives don't pander to special interests... all Americans are equal. They don't stereotype individuals and put them in a box and say... we gotta say this and that for THOSE kind of people... That's what racist bigoted dividers like YOU do.

I'll make a bold prediction right here and now... IF Trump WINS the GOP nomination, he will carry both the Latino and Black vote against Hillary. Bookmark the post so you can throw it in my face if I am wrong... I don't mind admitting I could be wrong... but I bet it's much closer than in any recent election.

What we DO know in Latino polling, now from 2 organizations, is that the GOP is getting crushed in the Latino vote.

Math triumphs over propaganda every time.

And when Hillary wins and wins big in 2016 and captures upwards of 80% of the Latino vote, I am going to come back to this posting of yours, which is now bookmarked!

 

[L.K.Eder]

I'm from the Midwest, the term boy doesn't necessarily mean black or race. You all need to stop seeing "racists" at every turn. It's stupid...and worn out

And we only have your word for that and you lie effortlessly.

Once again, old fool, point out a lie. I seem to recall you tried this once before and got your bell rang. Idiot

You lied when you said your use of the word "boy" was not racial. And your claim to have rung my bell is another lie.

You're an annoying old man, boy is not always racial, because YOU claim it is means little. stop being an unproductive asshole and stay on topic, fool

well, well, well it seems even the courts agree with me. I win!!!!!!

Appeals Court: Call Black Guys ‘Boy’ All You Want, It’s Not Racist


Most everyone agrees that, after Barack Obama was elected, almost all racism in America ended. But there’s still a little racism around, if you can find it! Still, you will need to establish a consensus of white people before you can truly deem someone’s actions to be motivated by racial animus. Take, for instance, the case of an African-American chicken plant employee who started with a job hanging live chickens onto hooks and worked his way up to the bottom rungs of management, then got passed over for promotion in favor of two white guys by a white boss who called him “boy.” Would you say that maybe there was some racism at play here? Two overwhelmingly white juries in Alabama did, as did John Roberts’ Supreme Court! Thank goodness the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals is here to stop all this race-card playing.

Did you know that “boy” is just a totally neutral word, with no racial connotations whatsoever? Every single earnest movie about racism made in the 1980s that you ever watched was a dirty lie.

Last month, for the third time and in the face of a 2006 rebuke from the United States Supreme Court, the federal appeals court in Atlanta said there were no racial overtones when a white supervisor called an adult black man “boy.”

“The usages were conversational,” the majority explained, repeating what it had told the trial court after the Supreme Court ruled, and “nonracial in context.” Even if “somehow construed as racial,” the unsigned 2-to-1 decision went on, “the comments were ambiguous stray remarks” that were not proof of employment discrimination.
…
The Supreme Court unanimously reversed [an earlier] decision, suggesting that the real world was the right modifier. ‘The speaker’s meaning may depend on various factors including context, inflection, tone of voice, local custom and historical usage,’ the justices said in an unsigned opinion.


Read more at Appeals Court Call Black Guys Boy All You Want It s Not Racist - Wonkette

damn, you are dumb.

btw, the appeal court reversed its ruling.

 

[JimH52]

He's going to continue to surge as long as he keeps hitting on the issues such as illegals. I have to give him credit on that stance

He's already hurt the Republican party with his outrageous comments regarding immigration. We have millions of Latino's in this country that are eligible voters, that are very offended by Trump's comments. The other night what he couldn't answer he just made up.

He's a joke, he is just doing this for notoriety and entertainment. That's what Trump is about--entertainment. He admitted to buying politicians on both sides of the isle. He's got the money to buy polling data too.

He knows you're all angry--and he's playing you like a fiddle--until he tires of it and drops out of this race.

I take issue with the Latinos and immigrants. I have legal immigrants provide services to me that came over here legally. They are mad as hell. They are waiting for their relatives to come...legally. And all the people who live on the other side of our borders just run across. It is a daily event. They are ready to vote for anyone who can and actually will build that wall, Then perhaps without the influx of illegals, their relatives can come over. I understand their plight.

Trump doesn't seem to understand that there are MILLIONS of legal Latino's in this country that VOTE. They don't vote to close the border. They don't vote for people who insult their integrity or intelligence. And they are an enormous voting block in this country. Is it going to take you people another 40 years of losing elections to figure this out?

Everyone wants to do something about illegal immigration. There is no one that doesn't. But for every one of you that are Trump supporters, there are 10 that are inflamed by his remarks. And let's face it-no candidate can do anything about illegal immigration until they WIN.

Haven't you heard? Trump is going to "win the women's vote" and he is going to "win the Hispanic vote." Because he can create jobs for everyone!

Oh, and he also said "I cherish women!"....when they aren't bleeding from "wherever."

 

[SassyIrishLass]

And we only have your word for that and you lie effortlessly.

Once again, old fool, point out a lie. I seem to recall you tried this once before and got your bell rang. Idiot

You lied when you said your use of the word "boy" was not racial. And your claim to have rung my bell is another lie.

You're an annoying old man, boy is not always racial, because YOU claim it is means little. stop being an unproductive asshole and stay on topic, fool

well, well, well it seems even the courts agree with me. I win!!!!!!

Appeals Court: Call Black Guys ‘Boy’ All You Want, It’s Not Racist


Most everyone agrees that, after Barack Obama was elected, almost all racism in America ended. But there’s still a little racism around, if you can find it! Still, you will need to establish a consensus of white people before you can truly deem someone’s actions to be motivated by racial animus. Take, for instance, the case of an African-American chicken plant employee who started with a job hanging live chickens onto hooks and worked his way up to the bottom rungs of management, then got passed over for promotion in favor of two white guys by a white boss who called him “boy.” Would you say that maybe there was some racism at play here? Two overwhelmingly white juries in Alabama did, as did John Roberts’ Supreme Court! Thank goodness the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals is here to stop all this race-card playing.

Did you know that “boy” is just a totally neutral word, with no racial connotations whatsoever? Every single earnest movie about racism made in the 1980s that you ever watched was a dirty lie.

Last month, for the third time and in the face of a 2006 rebuke from the United States Supreme Court, the federal appeals court in Atlanta said there were no racial overtones when a white supervisor called an adult black man “boy.”

“The usages were conversational,” the majority explained, repeating what it had told the trial court after the Supreme Court ruled, and “nonracial in context.” Even if “somehow construed as racial,” the unsigned 2-to-1 decision went on, “the comments were ambiguous stray remarks” that were not proof of employment discrimination.
…
The Supreme Court unanimously reversed [an earlier] decision, suggesting that the real world was the right modifier. ‘The speaker’s meaning may depend on various factors including context, inflection, tone of voice, local custom and historical usage,’ the justices said in an unsigned opinion.


Read more at Appeals Court Call Black Guys Boy All You Want It s Not Racist - Wonkette

You are a racist and you meant it as a racist remark. Stop lying.

GFY you tired old puke

 

[Statistikhengst]

Once again, old fool, point out a lie. I seem to recall you tried this once before and got your bell rang. Idiot

You lied when you said your use of the word "boy" was not racial. And your claim to have rung my bell is another lie.

You're an annoying old man, boy is not always racial, because YOU claim it is means little. stop being an unproductive asshole and stay on topic, fool

well, well, well it seems even the courts agree with me. I win!!!!!!

Appeals Court: Call Black Guys ‘Boy’ All You Want, It’s Not Racist


Most everyone agrees that, after Barack Obama was elected, almost all racism in America ended. But there’s still a little racism around, if you can find it! Still, you will need to establish a consensus of white people before you can truly deem someone’s actions to be motivated by racial animus. Take, for instance, the case of an African-American chicken plant employee who started with a job hanging live chickens onto hooks and worked his way up to the bottom rungs of management, then got passed over for promotion in favor of two white guys by a white boss who called him “boy.” Would you say that maybe there was some racism at play here? Two overwhelmingly white juries in Alabama did, as did John Roberts’ Supreme Court! Thank goodness the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals is here to stop all this race-card playing.

Did you know that “boy” is just a totally neutral word, with no racial connotations whatsoever? Every single earnest movie about racism made in the 1980s that you ever watched was a dirty lie.

Last month, for the third time and in the face of a 2006 rebuke from the United States Supreme Court, the federal appeals court in Atlanta said there were no racial overtones when a white supervisor called an adult black man “boy.”

“The usages were conversational,” the majority explained, repeating what it had told the trial court after the Supreme Court ruled, and “nonracial in context.” Even if “somehow construed as racial,” the unsigned 2-to-1 decision went on, “the comments were ambiguous stray remarks” that were not proof of employment discrimination.
…
The Supreme Court unanimously reversed [an earlier] decision, suggesting that the real world was the right modifier. ‘The speaker’s meaning may depend on various factors including context, inflection, tone of voice, local custom and historical usage,’ the justices said in an unsigned opinion.


Read more at Appeals Court Call Black Guys Boy All You Want It s Not Racist - Wonkette

You are a racist and you meant it as a racist remark. Stop lying.

GFY you tired old puke

I see you are just as angry today as you were yesterday.

Do you have the ability to debate an issue without attacking the person, or is your ODS simply incurable?

 

[Toro]

good , let the 'hispanics' be inflamed

Trump leads all GOP candidates with Latino voters with a commanding 34%
(Including Rubio and Cruz, the actual Latinos in the race.)

Link?

 

[Toro]

In REPUBLICAN polling.
Republican Latinos are a drop in the bucket in Republican polling and an even smaller drop within the Latino voting group itself.

This might be a difficult concept for you but people (even Latinos) change their minds on party all the time. They are not all sheep like you who will follow the Big D over any waterfall. Truth is, we simply don't know how many Republican Latinos will vote this time... half the country never votes.

Nevertheless... It's beyond ridiculous that you want to think we should expect Trump to be winning Democrat Latino votes during his Republican primary race. And another thing... Conservatives don't pander to special interests... all Americans are equal. They don't stereotype individuals and put them in a box and say... we gotta say this and that for THOSE kind of people... That's what racist bigoted dividers like YOU do.

I'll make a bold prediction right here and now... IF Trump WINS the GOP nomination, he will carry both the Latino and Black vote against Hillary. Bookmark the post so you can throw it in my face if I am wrong... I don't mind admitting I could be wrong... but I bet it's much closer than in any recent election.

Bookmarked.

 

[paddymurphy]

good , let the 'hispanics' be inflamed

Trump leads all GOP candidates with Latino voters with a commanding 34%
(Including Rubio and Cruz, the actual Latinos in the race.)

So, 34% of the tiny # of Latinos who are Republicans means what in the fall of 2016?

 

[jon_berzerk]

In REPUBLICAN polling.
Republican Latinos are a drop in the bucket in Republican polling and an even smaller drop within the Latino voting group itself.

This might be a difficult concept for you but people (even Latinos) change their minds on party all the time. They are not all sheep like you who will follow the Big D over any waterfall. Truth is, we simply don't know how many Republican Latinos will vote this time... half the country never votes.

Nevertheless... It's beyond ridiculous that you want to think we should expect Trump to be winning Democrat Latino votes during his Republican primary race. And another thing... Conservatives don't pander to special interests... all Americans are equal. They don't stereotype individuals and put them in a box and say... we gotta say this and that for THOSE kind of people... That's what racist bigoted dividers like YOU do.

I'll make a bold prediction right here and now... IF Trump WINS the GOP nomination, he will carry both the Latino and Black vote against Hillary. Bookmark the post so you can throw it in my face if I am wrong... I don't mind admitting I could be wrong... but I bet it's much closer than in any recent election.

Bookmarked.

really

--LOL

 

[Toro]

In and of itself, this spectacle may very well convince a lot of voters that conservatives are not fit to govern, and conservatives will have nobody to blame but themselves.

Seeing how MOST of the voters ARE Conservative, I don't see it convincing them they aren't fit to govern.... I DO see it telling liberals they can't govern because they lost their elections and have to go home... they won't be convinced they aren't fit to govern.

Most voters aren't conservatives.

Conservatives generally account for 30%-35% of voters.

The Conservative Presidential Vote US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Nope... Most voters ARE conservative. They are not necessarily ideologues (i.e.; social cons, libertarians) but their philosophy is Conservative. Again-- Billy Jeff Clinton was a Conservative Liberal. Hillary Clinton ran her last campaign for president as a Conservative Liberal. She is currently the "Conservative" alternative to Bernie Sanders.

The fact that the Liberal Left has stigmatized "Conservative" in the minds of the general public doesn't mean a damn thing. You've created a boogie-man to do battle against with your "superior" Liberal ideology and you've dressed the false ideology in every odious and undesirable viewpoint your radical noise machine can think of.

Your definitions are irrelevant because you are defining these terms to fit your ideology and worldview and thus have no practical meaning.

It doesn't matter what you think a conservative may be. It doesn't matter what I think a conservative may be.

What matters is what people themselves think. People self-identify.

And self-identified conservatives are 30%-35% of the electorate.

empiricism > ideology

They're not MY definitions, they are THE definitions.

People do self-identify... I know quite a few Conservatives who have strong Conservative philosophy in everything they believe... they want lower taxes, smaller government, less-intrusive government, border security and jobs. But IF you ask them if they would identify as "Tea Party" they would say no. It's not because their views are different, it's because "Tea Party" has been stigmatized. Generally speaking, people will never want to identify with a stigmatized label... that's just human nature.... has nothing to do with what they actually believe or how they think.

"Conservative" has become stigmatized as well. Not as many people want to say they are "Conservative" because they think it means they have all of these horrible views and opinions the Liberals have dressed the Frankenstein ideology of Conservatism with. So a lot of them will say they are "Independent" or "Moderate" instead.

The point is, Conservative philosophy is what most people have in America, whether they realize it or not. They may have various ideological beliefs and opinions, it's all rooted in Conservative philosophy. This stands as true until you can show me any kind of poll showing more than 25% are "Liberal" in America. You don't get to attack Conservative philosophy by counting moderates... most of them are Conservatives who aren't ideologues.

"Liberal" is a lot more stigmatized than "conservative."

Most moderates agree with some conservative principles and they agree with some liberal principles. That's why they are moderates. Typically, moderates are fiscally conservative and socially liberal. But simply because they are fiscally conservative doesn't mean you label them as a "conservative" any more than labeling them a "liberal" because they are socially liberal.

What matters is how people identify themselves. If people identify themselves as moderates, they aren't going to care too much about stigmatized labels, whether that's conservative or liberal.

For the Republican Party, they rarely win self-identified moderates, but they almost never win if they lose the moderate vote badly. And there are consistently more self-identified moderates voting than conservatives, and way more than liberals. So if Republicans alienate moderates, they lose. Full stop.

 

[Toro]

In REPUBLICAN polling.
Republican Latinos are a drop in the bucket in Republican polling and an even smaller drop within the Latino voting group itself.

This might be a difficult concept for you but people (even Latinos) change their minds on party all the time. They are not all sheep like you who will follow the Big D over any waterfall. Truth is, we simply don't know how many Republican Latinos will vote this time... half the country never votes.

Nevertheless... It's beyond ridiculous that you want to think we should expect Trump to be winning Democrat Latino votes during his Republican primary race. And another thing... Conservatives don't pander to special interests... all Americans are equal. They don't stereotype individuals and put them in a box and say... we gotta say this and that for THOSE kind of people... That's what racist bigoted dividers like YOU do.

I'll make a bold prediction right here and now... IF Trump WINS the GOP nomination, he will carry both the Latino and Black vote against Hillary. Bookmark the post so you can throw it in my face if I am wrong... I don't mind admitting I could be wrong... but I bet it's much closer than in any recent election.

Bookmarked.

really

--LOL

No.

But I do have an election prediction thread that I will link your quote to later, simply because it's the most ridiculous prediction yet. And on this board, that's saying something.

 

[Mac1958]

So if Republicans alienate moderates, they lose. Full stop.

Evidently, the conservatives disagree with you.

They have convinced themselves that their base is enough, that they don't need moderate Republicans (RINOs), moderates or independents.

Okay, good luck with that, gang.

.

 

[Jackson]

I feel the Independents generally are former Republican party members and a few Democrats that abandoned their party. The philosophy of both of these are that they are disappointed or angered at the direction their party and the country is going.

With the shake up in the Republican party, I can see more Independents moving in that direction for the next election.

 

[jon_berzerk]

In REPUBLICAN polling.
Republican Latinos are a drop in the bucket in Republican polling and an even smaller drop within the Latino voting group itself.

This might be a difficult concept for you but people (even Latinos) change their minds on party all the time. They are not all sheep like you who will follow the Big D over any waterfall. Truth is, we simply don't know how many Republican Latinos will vote this time... half the country never votes.

Nevertheless... It's beyond ridiculous that you want to think we should expect Trump to be winning Democrat Latino votes during his Republican primary race. And another thing... Conservatives don't pander to special interests... all Americans are equal. They don't stereotype individuals and put them in a box and say... we gotta say this and that for THOSE kind of people... That's what racist bigoted dividers like YOU do.

I'll make a bold prediction right here and now... IF Trump WINS the GOP nomination, he will carry both the Latino and Black vote against Hillary. Bookmark the post so you can throw it in my face if I am wrong... I don't mind admitting I could be wrong... but I bet it's much closer than in any recent election.

Bookmarked.

really

--LOL

No.

But I do have an election prediction thread that I will link your quote to later, simply because it's the most ridiculous prediction yet. And on this board, that's saying something.

--LOL

 

[paddymurphy]

Once again, old fool, point out a lie. I seem to recall you tried this once before and got your bell rang. Idiot

You lied when you said your use of the word "boy" was not racial. And your claim to have rung my bell is another lie.

You're an annoying old man, boy is not always racial, because YOU claim it is means little. stop being an unproductive asshole and stay on topic, fool

well, well, well it seems even the courts agree with me. I win!!!!!!

Appeals Court: Call Black Guys ‘Boy’ All You Want, It’s Not Racist


Most everyone agrees that, after Barack Obama was elected, almost all racism in America ended. But there’s still a little racism around, if you can find it! Still, you will need to establish a consensus of white people before you can truly deem someone’s actions to be motivated by racial animus. Take, for instance, the case of an African-American chicken plant employee who started with a job hanging live chickens onto hooks and worked his way up to the bottom rungs of management, then got passed over for promotion in favor of two white guys by a white boss who called him “boy.” Would you say that maybe there was some racism at play here? Two overwhelmingly white juries in Alabama did, as did John Roberts’ Supreme Court! Thank goodness the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals is here to stop all this race-card playing.

Did you know that “boy” is just a totally neutral word, with no racial connotations whatsoever? Every single earnest movie about racism made in the 1980s that you ever watched was a dirty lie.

Last month, for the third time and in the face of a 2006 rebuke from the United States Supreme Court, the federal appeals court in Atlanta said there were no racial overtones when a white supervisor called an adult black man “boy.”

“The usages were conversational,” the majority explained, repeating what it had told the trial court after the Supreme Court ruled, and “nonracial in context.” Even if “somehow construed as racial,” the unsigned 2-to-1 decision went on, “the comments were ambiguous stray remarks” that were not proof of employment discrimination.
…
The Supreme Court unanimously reversed [an earlier] decision, suggesting that the real world was the right modifier. ‘The speaker’s meaning may depend on various factors including context, inflection, tone of voice, local custom and historical usage,’ the justices said in an unsigned opinion.


Read more at Appeals Court Call Black Guys Boy All You Want It s Not Racist - Wonkette

You are a racist and you meant it as a racist remark. Stop lying.

GFY you tired old puke

Are you bleeding from your eyes or your "wherever?"

 

[pismoe]

thing is that a lot of YOU people , gop , rinos want a republican president , me , heck , I don't care . Pander to those that identify as 'hispanics' rather than as American for their votes doesn't make sense to me .