Hospital: "Go home if you're not dying...."

[HenryBHough]

Health care for free! A dream for some; nightmare for others.

Here's a fresh example of what one mighty expect when everybody is entitled to free-for-life (what remains of it) health care:

NHS crisis: Shocked patients told to 'go home unless you are DYING'


"Under pressure North Middlesex Hospital made a shock Tannoy announcement ordering people who were not critically ill to return in the morning."

"Around a dozen patients were forced to wait on trolleys for up to seven hours as chaos unfolded."

"Beleaguered staff had no choice but to issue a "Mayday" alert after 450 people descended on the hospital's A&E ward in Edmonton, north London."

"At around 11pm on Friday night, patients were told: "We would ask anyone who doesn’t have a life-threatening illness to go home and come back in the morning."

"The hospital announced the wait to see a doctor was eight hours for adults and six hours for kids, prompting some frustrated patients to storm out."

But take heart! Remember, for the survivors, it's all FREE!

 

[Iceweasel]

In the UK junior doctors were on strike or going to a few days ago. That may have played a role.

 

[Indeependent]

Started in the 90s.

 

[OldLady]

Any hospital ER would have a melt down if 450 people showed up at once. That's why there are disaster drills for first responders and hospitals.

 

[BULLDOG]

That's not much different than they are here. Emergency rooms are for emergencies. Going there with anything less will get you little more than a band aid and an appointment with a regular doctor. They are not intended for, and can not handle regular or minor medical care.

 

[HenryBHough]

So nice to see Jammie-Jake come out of the closet and taking a stand for Commun-O-Care!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Read Henry's comment above, and then try to figure how he comes to his conclusion from, "Little smoke from a few embers. The OP is a fallacy of hasty generalization. One incident involving about 12 patients indicates nothing on a larger scale.

That is no different than had such happen at a private hospital.

 

[BULLDOG]

Read Henry's comment above, and then try to figure how he comes to his conclusion from, "Little smoke from a few embers. The OP is a fallacy of hasty generalization. One incident involving about 12 patients indicates nothing on a larger scale.

That is no different than had such happen at a private hospital.

What do you expect from a right winger?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Read Henry's comment above, and then try to figure how he comes to his conclusion from, "Little smoke from a few embers. The OP is a fallacy of hasty generalization. One incident involving about 12 patients indicates nothing on a larger scale.

That is no different than had such happen at a private hospital.

What do you expect from a right winger?

Henry is far to the right of an average right winger. He is a reactionary of almost the worst kind out on the weird fringes.

 

[HenryBHough]

And proud of it!

When an out-and-out ultra-liberal resorts to name-calling then it's over. Game. Set. Match.

But it would go down easier were said U-L to give up the "establishment" game - perhaps there will one day be FREE hospitalization for that.

If one were to wait long enough.......

 

[JakeStarkey]

And proud of it! When an out-and-out ultra-liberal resorts to name-calling then it's over. Game. Set. Match. But it would go down easier were said U-L to give up the "establishment" game - perhaps there will one day be FREE hospitalization for that. If one were to wait long enough.......

Thank you for outing yourself. The "establishment game" is mainstream, centrist, not liberal or right. Embrace your looniness and go for it. The OP is a false fart, nothing more.

 

[BULLDOG]

And proud of it!

When an out-and-out ultra-liberal resorts to name-calling then it's over. Game. Set. Match.

But it would go down easier were said U-L to give up the "establishment" game - perhaps there will one day be FREE hospitalization for that.

If one were to wait long enough.......

Crazy and proud of it. Good for you.

 

[HenryBHough]

Yes, boys and girls, when liberals feel stung by reality they do their best to derail threads. The sending the suffering home is real. It's becoming more and more common as "FREE" becomes more and more expensive. Not in mere money, rather in pain and suffering.

But, hey, one gets what one pays for.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"It's becoming more and more common as "FREE" becomes more and more expensive" is simply a blurb by a blurber.

OK, blurber, gives us the many examples that make it a trend.

 

[HenryBHough]

Thousands of patients sent home in middle of the night amid hospital bed-blocking fears

Patients sent home after health workers down their tools

Shock at thousands of patients being ‘sent home in the night’ from Fife’s hospitals

Is that enough to halt your attempts at derailing the thread?

 

[JakeStarkey]

first link: The issue sees patients who could be looked after in care homes or with proper support in their own homes, remain in hospital because there are no places for them. The problem is proper places for follow up post-hospital support, not the hospital itself. OK.

second link: Patients undergoing treatment at the Embu Level 5 General Hospital were on Tuesday sent home after health workers at the hospital downed their tools citing lack of promotions and poor working conditions. So the problem is the union. OK.
She said it could include transfers between hospital wards or between hospitals for specialist care, as well as deaths and self-discharges.

third link: The Dundee East MSP said: “These figures are also a small proportion of the hundreds of thousands of patients discharged in Scotland every year. Those two year figures don't cover all of the many reasons for such discharges. It may be many of them were later because friends and relatives picked them up after normal working hours, and many were ER discharges.

Henry, go find out what the non-traditional discharges were in NYC for a two year period. Make sure that the figures are from profit medical centers.

 

[HenryBHough]

Thank you for spending so much of your day checking out links!

Rewarding to see one so young with such talent.

Here are some more new challenges:

NHRC notice over hospitals refusing to admit patient

 

[JakeStarkey]

I have shown you that your links don't mean much, Henry. Just the way it is.

Here is where we go next. This is your challenge. Henry, go find out what the non-traditional discharges were in NYC for a two year period. Make sure that the figures are from profit medical centers.

 

[Likkmee]

I think it should be like an auction to see whos first !
Nigga gots $12 rye here.
I B habbin $16.50 !

OH sorry. That's in England
Та Мохаммед Зөндөө

 

[Arianrhod]

Having observed SOP in ERs on two coasts of this here USA, I am surprised the rest of you (must be flyover country) don't realize this was the way of things prior to the PPACA.

If you're brought in by ambulance with an MI, that's one thing. If you're a parent with a kid with otitis whose doctor isn't answering his phone, that's another thing.

Has anyone stopped to wonder why doctors keep bankers' hours?