How About We Elect Our Presidents By Popular Vote?

[Hutch Starskey]

The tyranny of the majority is what they were concerned with.

Yep. Better to have the tyranny of the minority.

 

[progressive hunter]

Yep. Better to have the tyranny of the minority.

its not tyranny if the minority can protect itself from the majority,,,

 

[Meister]

There’s no voter suppression or disenfranchisement if everyone still votes, dope.

there is disenfranchisement in a pure democracy.
All the flyover states would have no say because they don't have the population.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

its not tyranny if the minority can protect itself from the majority,,,

I’m sure that’s how the majority feel.
You are literally advocating for the majority of voters not to matter at all. Try having better ideas that appeal to more people rather than gaming the system.

 

[Crepitus]

It is not made up. Our founding fathers warned against it. You are really stupid. Thanks for showcasing it with that post.

No, it's made up nonsense. As far as I know it was only mentioned by the founding fathers once, not as a warning but as a justification for three separate branches of government.

 

[progressive hunter]

I’m sure that’s how the majority feel.
You are literally advocating for the majority of voters not to matter at all. Try having better ideas that appeal to more people rather than gaming the system.

you forget we are 50 separate states and what you propose would discount so many other states in favor of a few,,

 

[Unkotare]

Not talking about eliminating the Electoral College here necessarily. Just bypassing it for the Presidential races. This is an initiative that's proven popular and non-partisan. Why do we still tolerate them only having to campaign in a few "swing" states?
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[Hutch Starskey]

there is disenfranchisement in a pure democracy.
All the flyover states would have no say because they don't have the population.

So? That’s always the case. Nowhere is it written that all states must be equal.They also have more power in the Senate.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

you forget we are 50 separate states and what you propose would discount so many other states in favor of a few,,

No one is discounted. Every citizen can vote. If your party is weak, that’s on you.

 

[progressive hunter]

No one is discounted. Every citizen can vote. If your party is weak, that’s on you.

when a few cities can control the outcome millions are discounted,, sorry but your idea sucks ass,,,

 

[Synthaholic]

I guess you forgot about the attempt to make two California's???

That doesn't answer my simple question, simpleton.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

when a few cities can control the outcome millions are discounted,, sorry but your idea sucks ass,,,

That’s always the case. You aren’t discounted, you just lost.You are actually advocating the exact same thing.

 

[progressive hunter]

That doesn't answer my simple question, simpleton.

cali. libs wont allow it,,

 

[progressive hunter]

That’s always the case. You aren’t discounted, you just lost.You are actually advocating the exact same thing.

again youre forgetting we are 50 separate states,,, and within those states each community is represented fairly,,

 

[blackhawk]

You realize all that would do is switch them from campaiging in a few swing states to the states with biggest populations most notably New York, Texas and Califorina.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

again youre forgetting we are 50 separate states,,,

I’m not forgetting anything. I don’t see the relevance of your point.

 

[Osiris-ODS]

For those who are not aware of it, this dumb power grab to steal elections idea is already well under way, and it would not require a Constitutional Amendment to implement it.

National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia

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Dumb idea because it would totally disenfranchise millions of voters. Even if their state voted for a candidate who did not win the popular vote, the state would still award its votes to the candidate who did not win the state.

Plus, there would be not much reason for people in states with a small population to vote.

The Dems are working on implementing it. Each state is allowed to award its Electoral College votes in the manner it chooses.

States with a total of 195 electoral votes have already approved it. Additionally, states with another 68 EVs are working on it (already passed one state house, for example.)

And the Dems claim Republicans are a thread to the Democracy and the Constitution. Hrmmmpf!

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It's an illegal Interstate Compact. It will never be implemented.

 

[progressive hunter]

I’m not forgetting anything. I don’t see the relevance of your point.

you dont see the relevance in "SEPARATE"???

 

[Meister]

There’s no voter suppression or disenfranchisement if everyone still votes, dope.

What's important in rural America is not what is important in urban America.
The majority of the votes are in urban America and that is where the campaigns will cater to.
Urban America can just say, "fuck you", rural America.
Hence, the disenfranchisement.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

again youre forgetting we are 50 separate states,,, and within those states each community is represented fairly,,

Uh huh. And? Your point?
Are you saying states should vote and not their people?