How Are Republicans Or Any Republican, For That Matter, Christians?

[AVG-JOE]

Do Christians use words like "Asswipe?"

How would Jesus insult folks over their opinions?

 

[Jackson]

You just asked a question? Please dont pretend to be seeking innocent and honest discussion when you ask a loaded partisan question like that.

So why should we use the propaganda of the left to evaluate who is Christian or not? You don't see Christians in the Republican party because you are conveniently ignoring the ones that practice Christianity and focusing on the ones that do. Not only that but you ignore what many Republicans are actually doing and instead believe the lies the Democrats say they are doing.

Are Republicans perfect? Hell no. Are Christians perfect? Not in the slightest. Are Democrats perfect? Hell Hell no.

But does that mean all Republicans aren't Christian? or does that mean there aren't real Christians in both parties? Does that mean there are no Christian Democrats?

The progressive rot in both parties makes seeing Christians difficult. The Progressives in both parties point at the progressives in the other party and talk about how corrupt and evil they are (and they are corrupt and evil) in order to malign good Christians and other good people.

How can a Christian support Obamacare? More people uninsured. Higher costs. Higher deductables. Criminals obtaining private information from people and stealing their identities. Quite frankly I don't know how, but there are some that do.

How can a Christian support borrowing money we don't have to pay for government we can't afford? There are some that do.

How can a Christian support burdening the tax payers with higher and higher taxes? How can a Christian support dividing their brethren by the amount of money they make? There are some that do

How can a Christian support putting faith in government to solve our problems instead of faith in God? I don't know but there are som ethat do.

How can a Christian support abortion? Sure as heck dont know but somehow some do.

Fighting to uphold the Constitution is Christian. Fighting to be a good steward of our money is Christian. Fighting to preserve the life of innocent children is Christian. These are all things that many Republicans fight for. Unfortunately we have progressives in both parties fighting against these things.

Our politics shouldn't be defining our Christianity. Our Christianity should define who we are in our politics. And by that I don't mean we should be passing laws to force people to be Christian. That's contrary to what Christianity teaches us. The Bible is clear. "Chose this day whom you will serve". Christ came to provide liberty to the oppressed.

So why do we let the progressives of either party get away with empowering themselves in Washington and blaming the progressives of the other party for what they are all collectively doing?

We have robbers in our government. Robbers who think they are entitled to take from us and give to themselves and their political cronies to secure their own power. And we have to stop them. The first thin we have to do is humble ourselves before God and ask for forgiveness. We've let ourselves sleep. We've let ourselves be decieved politically. We've let politicians divide us when we should be united.

You've fallen for the trap here. You've allowed yourself to not see your Christian brethren because they have a different political party affiliation.

We have let ourselves become an extremely proud society. We have to humble ourselves. Or we will end up destroying ourselves. And there isn't a single person on this message board who doesn't have a pride issue. We can let our pride destroy us and separate us. Or we can humble ourselves.

We can start honestly looking at the world around us or we can allow partisan shades to block us.

We can continue to outsource our responsibilities to an ever growing government and ensure nothing gets done or we can step up and take more responsibility in our lives.

What ELSE has your Crystal Ball revealed to thee oh great and might Svengali?

BTW: With that entire diatribe you brought out not ONE, single, solitary Republican that strikes you as Christian.

Interesting...

Note: I did NOT say, or suggest that ALL Republicans aren't Christian. I simply asked to point one out and/or how they are. The rest was your magical conjecture.

Carry on.

Marc, Again, your retort was rude and evidence you just didn't comprehend. You have to take the time to listen to what's being told to you. You are missing some wise advice that is not politically charged. You cannot become an objective excellent poster that climbs above the common political hackery without internalizing some of these wise comments when they come along. They don't come often enough.

Avatar does not always favor conservatism. He's an honest broker.

 

[editec]

How Are Republicans Or Any Republican, For That Matter, Christians?

Christianity is an OPEN SOURCE religion.

Anybody can call themselves a Christian, regardless of what the say, believe or do.

 

[Jackson]

Do Christians use words like "Asswipe?"

How would Jesus insult folks over their opinions?

Jesus would not insult them in a petty way. He would give them a parable about how a stupid person loses out.

 

[Avatar4321]

Do Christians use words like "Asswipe?"

Well, are you Christian? Because you just did.

 

[Avatar4321]

You know, i hope someday you will come to know God and be obliged to do right.

Where did I go wrong?

And what makes you think I don't know God?

By your fruits ye shall know them. Isn't that the standard?

 

[Stephanie]

I always ask how Democrats, for that matter any Democrat can crow they are the more caring people and call themselves a Christian...

yet they fully support taking a life with abortion and call it a, women's choice...

and then turn around and quote scripture from the bible to put down others..

I find these people phony as hell, but that's just me

 

[TooTall]

Scripture says that by their fruits you shall know them, Matthew 7 Matthew 7:20 KJV - Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know - Bible Gateway

Further expounds and put into context in the previous verses as seen here: Matthew 7:15-20 NKJV - You Will Know Them by Their Fruits - Bible Gateway

In my devotion this morning I came across a description/guide for Christians in Titus 2:7-8, Titus - Paul, a servant of God and an apostle - Bible Gateway

In reflecting on these passages I can't help but think to myself, how the HECK do Republicans even remotely resemble any of this?

Anyone can help me with that?

Maybe I'm missing something here.

To be fair, I don't see how choosing a life of politics goes with being a Christian, and the one President that exuded Christianity, Carter, has been bashed to bits by the Party that claims to be Christian. They labeled him weak. When Jesus Himself said to turn the other cheek. Luke - Introduction - Many have undertaken to - Bible Gateway Moreover, said that "Vengeance is mine." Romans 12:19 KJV - Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, - Bible Gateway

Things that make me go "Hmmm.....!!"

All a Christian has to do is accept the fact that Christ died for his or her sins, and accept him as their savior. Since we are all sinners, even Democrats can ask for His forgiveness.

 

[MarcATL]

So you're going to judge the lives of millions of people you don't know based on the propaganda of the left and some corrupt Republican politicians? How exactly is that Christian?

You are seriously going to sit here and tell me I don't know Christ and don't seek to follow Him because I believe we need to be free, that we need to be good stewards of the tax payers money, that we should actually follow the Constitution, and empower people.

And are Democrats really any better? Take Obamacare. Millions of people are losing their insurance. Even if they keep them their rates are skyrocketing. And those who pushed it knew this would happen before they did it. How is that Christian? Now we have advertisements from the government encouraging people to live promiscuous lifestyles because now they can sign up for Obamacare. How is that Christian? How is it Christian to call everyone who suggests a different way a bigot, a racist or some other divisive slur because they have different ideas? How is it Christian to divide people into classes and pretend people are somehow better or worse than their brother because of the amount of money they earn?

People can follow Christ and belong to either party. That doesn't mean they support every bad thing other people in the party does.

Hey, hey, hey...no need to get your panties twisted up into a tight knot.

I asked a question dude. I just asked a simple question.

My question involved asking, someone like yourself, to point out how and/or who in the Republican party today exemplifies a Christian.

We only have to go by what the Republican politicians display.

We have to assume that, self-proclaimed Christians, like yourself, of the RW persuasion supports them time and time again, therefore you approve of their behavior.

So again, I ask you, as a fellow Christian,...what about The Republicans, or any Republican, for that matter, is Christian?

Your go.

Marc, Avatar gave you the answer and an excellent one at that. He told you what most Republicans believe and they can be very much, Christians, just as yourself. I might add one more topic. I happen to be pro life which is against most Democratic views. I find it very difficult how you can reconcile abortion with any Christian view.

God provided woman with reproductive organs and a womb, or a vessel to nurture a child to the time of birth. For a woman to call it her body and not recognize its purpose for bringing a baby to life is the height of delusion and selfishness. And even if the woman did not want to be a mother, to deny they child its life and kill the child is against a commandment given to us. The child could have been give to a barren woman to have the gift of motherhood. In your heart, if you are a true Christian, you know that.

I agree with you 102% Brother Jackson, however, it's not my right, nor do I have the authority to force my understanding onto another person. Just as God gives every soul the power of free will, aka choice, I have to do the same.

The most I can do is advise them on the error of their ways, but I can't force them. That includes legislate. Their decision is a moral one and they have to reconcile that with their Maker, not with me, you, I, nor their government.

What RW Christians are engaging in a Christian version of Sharia Law, that is wrong on all accounts.

Do Christians use words like "Asswipe?"

Well, are you Christian? Because you just did.

Avatar, you're being a disingenuous. You know full well, that I simply quoted the person that said that. You skipped them and assigned it to me. That's deception in it's highest form.

Not Christlike.

I always ask how Democrats, for that matter any Democrat can crow they are the more caring people and call themselves a Christian...

yet they fully support taking a life with abortion and call it a, women's choice...

and then turn around and quote scripture from the bible to put down others..

I find these people phony as hell, but that's just me

That's where you RW fundamentalist Christians get it wrong. NO ONE SUPPORTS abortion. You won't find ONE person that says that's what you should do. We simply ACKNOWLEDGE the individual's right to choice. THEY have to deal with the consequences of it and face their Maker. Not me, not you, not their government.

It's not hard to understand.

Stop your fundamentalist nonsense...it's not right, it's radical.

 

[Stephanie]

Hey, hey, hey...no need to get your panties twisted up into a tight knot.

I asked a question dude. I just asked a simple question.

My question involved asking, someone like yourself, to point out how and/or who in the Republican party today exemplifies a Christian.

We only have to go by what the Republican politicians display.

We have to assume that, self-proclaimed Christians, like yourself, of the RW persuasion supports them time and time again, therefore you approve of their behavior.

So again, I ask you, as a fellow Christian,...what about The Republicans, or any Republican, for that matter, is Christian?

Your go.

Marc, Avatar gave you the answer and an excellent one at that. He told you what most Republicans believe and they can be very much, Christians, just as yourself. I might add one more topic. I happen to be pro life which is against most Democratic views. I find it very difficult how you can reconcile abortion with any Christian view.

God provided woman with reproductive organs and a womb, or a vessel to nurture a child to the time of birth. For a woman to call it her body and not recognize its purpose for bringing a baby to life is the height of delusion and selfishness. And even if the woman did not want to be a mother, to deny they child its life and kill the child is against a commandment given to us. The child could have been give to a barren woman to have the gift of motherhood. In your heart, if you are a true Christian, you know that.

I agree with you 102% Brother Jackson, however, it's not my right, nor do I have the authority to force my understanding onto another person. Just as God gives every soul the power of free will, aka choice, I have to do the same.

The most I can do is advise them on the error of their ways, but I can't force them. That includes legislate. Their decision is a moral one and they have to reconcile that with their Maker, not with me, you, I, nor their government.

What RW Christians are engaging in a Christian version of Sharia Law, that is wrong on all accounts.

Well, are you Christian? Because you just did.

Avatar, you're being a disingenuous. You know full well, that I simply quoted the person that said that. You skipped them and assigned it to me. That's deception in it's highest form.

Not Christlike.

I always ask how Democrats, for that matter any Democrat can crow they are the more caring people and call themselves a Christian...

yet they fully support taking a life with abortion and call it a, women's choice...

and then turn around and quote scripture from the bible to put down others..

I find these people phony as hell, but that's just me

That's where you RW fundamentalist Christians get it wrong. NO ONE SUPPORTS abortion. You won't find ONE person that says that's what you should do. We simply ACKNOWLEDGE the individual's right to choice. THEY have to deal with the consequences of it and face their Maker. Not me, not you, not their government.

It's not hard to understand.

Stop your fundamentalist nonsense...it's not right, it's radical.

oh shut up phony..You're the radical. just look at this post of yours.....You don't have a Christian bone in your body

if you did you wouldn't start these types of hateful threads

go try being one someday

 

[Sunshine]

Marc, Avatar gave you the answer and an excellent one at that. He told you what most Republicans believe and they can be very much, Christians, just as yourself. I might add one more topic. I happen to be pro life which is against most Democratic views. I find it very difficult how you can reconcile abortion with any Christian view.

God provided woman with reproductive organs and a womb, or a vessel to nurture a child to the time of birth. For a woman to call it her body and not recognize its purpose for bringing a baby to life is the height of delusion and selfishness. And even if the woman did not want to be a mother, to deny they child its life and kill the child is against a commandment given to us. The child could have been give to a barren woman to have the gift of motherhood. In your heart, if you are a true Christian, you know that.

I agree with you 102% Brother Jackson, however, it's not my right, nor do I have the authority to force my understanding onto another person. Just as God gives every soul the power of free will, aka choice, I have to do the same.

The most I can do is advise them on the error of their ways, but I can't force them. That includes legislate. Their decision is a moral one and they have to reconcile that with their Maker, not with me, you, I, nor their government.

What RW Christians are engaging in a Christian version of Sharia Law, that is wrong on all accounts.

Avatar, you're being a disingenuous. You know full well, that I simply quoted the person that said that. You skipped them and assigned it to me. That's deception in it's highest form.

Not Christlike.

I always ask how Democrats, for that matter any Democrat can crow they are the more caring people and call themselves a Christian...

yet they fully support taking a life with abortion and call it a, women's choice...

and then turn around and quote scripture from the bible to put down others..

I find these people phony as hell, but that's just me

That's where you RW fundamentalist Christians get it wrong. NO ONE SUPPORTS abortion. You won't find ONE person that says that's what you should do. We simply ACKNOWLEDGE the individual's right to choice. THEY have to deal with the consequences of it and face their Maker. Not me, not you, not their government.

It's not hard to understand.

Stop your fundamentalist nonsense...it's not right, it's radical.

oh shut up phony..You're the radical. just look at this post of yours.....You don't have a Christian bone in your body

if you did you wouldn't start these types of hateful threads

go try being one someday

He's pretty pathetic isn't he. I am amazed at how many libs stick up for islam. And I noticed today that the churches which are setting up shelters for the storm victims do not include the first islamic mosque. They are Christian churches. Oh those vile nasty Christians and likely many of them republicans setting up shelters for people who have lost their homes in a storm.

 

[JakeStarkey]

How Are Republicans Or Any Republican, For That Matter, Christians?

Probably 90%, and the far right reactionary TeaPs and KKKers are a disgrace to Christianity and the GOP.

 

[Stephanie]

I agree with you 102% Brother Jackson, however, it's not my right, nor do I have the authority to force my understanding onto another person. Just as God gives every soul the power of free will, aka choice, I have to do the same.

The most I can do is advise them on the error of their ways, but I can't force them. That includes legislate. Their decision is a moral one and they have to reconcile that with their Maker, not with me, you, I, nor their government.

What RW Christians are engaging in a Christian version of Sharia Law, that is wrong on all accounts.

Avatar, you're being a disingenuous. You know full well, that I simply quoted the person that said that. You skipped them and assigned it to me. That's deception in it's highest form.

Not Christlike.

That's where you RW fundamentalist Christians get it wrong. NO ONE SUPPORTS abortion. You won't find ONE person that says that's what you should do. We simply ACKNOWLEDGE the individual's right to choice. THEY have to deal with the consequences of it and face their Maker. Not me, not you, not their government.

It's not hard to understand.

Stop your fundamentalist nonsense...it's not right, it's radical.

oh shut up phony..You're the radical. just look at this post of yours.....You don't have a Christian bone in your body

if you did you wouldn't start these types of hateful threads

go try being one someday

He's pretty pathetic isn't he. I am amazed at how many libs stick up for islam. And I noticed today that the churches which are setting up shelters for the storm victims do not include the first islamic mosque. They are Christian churches. Oh those vile nasty Christians and likely many of them republicans setting up shelters for people who have lost their homes in a storm.

He's the worst kind of people on the left/progressives who knows nothing about being Christian...they just use it to spread hate
and you're right, he'd be the first in line to call someone a Islamophobic hater

 

[JakeStarkey]

Very little Christian spirit evidenced by the far right here

 

[Jackson]

oh shut up phony..You're the radical. just look at this post of yours.....You don't have a Christian bone in your body

if you did you wouldn't start these types of hateful threads

go try being one someday

He's pretty pathetic isn't he. I am amazed at how many libs stick up for islam. And I noticed today that the churches which are setting up shelters for the storm victims do not include the first islamic mosque. They are Christian churches. Oh those vile nasty Christians and likely many of them republicans setting up shelters for people who have lost their homes in a storm.

He's the worst kind of people on the left/progressives who knows nothing about being Christian...they just use it to spread hate
and you're right, he'd be the first in line to call someone a Islamophobic hater

Stephanie, who's being the judge, now? Marc pointed out something we should take into account. Just because some on the left approve of abortion and other issues that I may disagree with, it doesn't mean that Marc, who I am talking to agrees with it. I see that he and I agree on the issue. That's good enough for me.

And no, he's not pathetic, there's very few posters I would call pathetic. I think we could agree on some. They are the ones that cannot discuss anything without name calling and flame throwing, they have an IQ of a squash. I've said my piece with Marc and I think he's intelligent because he can come back with a debate and we can discuss things and even agree. He's okay in my book and I look forward to debating him.

 

[MarcATL]

He's pretty pathetic isn't he. I am amazed at how many libs stick up for islam. And I noticed today that the churches which are setting up shelters for the storm victims do not include the first islamic mosque. They are Christian churches. Oh those vile nasty Christians and likely many of them republicans setting up shelters for people who have lost their homes in a storm.

He's the worst kind of people on the left/progressives who knows nothing about being Christian...they just use it to spread hate
and you're right, he'd be the first in line to call someone a Islamophobic hater

Stephanie, who's being the judge, now? Marc pointed out something we should take into account. Just because some on the left approve of abortion and other issues that I may disagree with, it doesn't mean that Marc, who I am talking to agrees with it. I see that he and I agree on the issue. That's good enough for me.

And no, he's not pathetic, there's very few posters I would call pathetic. I think we could agree on some. They are the ones that cannot discuss anything without name calling and flame throwing, they have an IQ of a squash. I've said my piece with Marc and I think he's intelligent because he can come back with a debate and we can discuss things and even agree. He's okay in my book and I look forward to debating him.

 

[Jackson]

Yeah, you!

 

[Stephanie]

Yeah, you!

If you say so....You'd never see him post something like this about Democrats...
to me these types of threads are for stirring up hate

 

[MarcATL]

Yeah, you!

If you say so....You'd never see him post something like this about Democrats...
to me these types of threads are for stirring up hate

[MENTION=1668]Stephanie[/MENTION] I don't think you're thinking clearly.

For one thing, you don't see Democrats doing what Republicans do. Democrats don't use their religion to bludgeon others or Republicans into their narrow way of thinking. They don't go about claiming themselves to be THEE symbol and/or protector of Christianity. They don't force their Christianity on others. Democrats aren't the ones trying to legislate Christianity. They simply don't. Therefore, it doesn't apply to them. Why would I address them about something that doesn't apply to them? More of the false equivalency nonsense that is so prevalent in the media?

You really should practice pausing for a moment of reflection sometimes. It would do you a lot of good.

 

[chikenwing]

Yeah, you!

If you say so....You'd never see him post something like this about Democrats...
to me these types of threads are for stirring up hate

[MENTION=1668]Stephanie[/MENTION] I don't think you're thinking clearly.

For one thing, you don't see Democrats doing what Republicans do. Democrats don't use their religion to bludgeon others or Republicans into their narrow way of thinking. They don't go about claiming themselves to be THEE symbol and/or protector of Christianity. They don't force their Christianity on others. Democrats aren't the ones trying to legislate Christianity. They simply don't. Therefore, it doesn't apply to them. Why would I address them about something that doesn't apply to them? More of the false equivalency nonsense that is so prevalent in the media?

You really should practice pausing for a moment of reflection sometimes. It would do you a lot of good.

Good geeeahhad,do you listen to yourself?? you don't have a splinter in your eye you have the whole Forrest.

Try and be honest,its not that hard.