How can a party or ideology "win" in such an evenly-divided country?

[Harpy Eagle]

once again the constitution doesn't even get mentioned,,,

That's because it's not particularly relevant to the point.

Do you think that one day you'll "win" and have everything your way from then on?
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what do you mean by winning???

and the constitution should always be relevant when discussing politics,,,

Well, here is your chance. Tell us how the constitution ties into the OP.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

If you agree with me that (a) the sides of the spectrum are only getting more divided, that (b) they're becoming less and less interested in working together, and that (c) the two "sides" are fairly evenly divided, here's a question:

What is the point of barely pushing through, on a purely partisan basis, agendas and legislation that only reflect "your side" of the country? Doesn't it seem temporary to you?

Doesn't it make sense that legislation that is the result of collaboration will likely be more permanent, since both "sides" have skin in the game?

What is your best argument for this country being ruled on a purely partisan basis, back and forth, back and forth?
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The solution is for every citizen and politician to be committed to preserving liberty above all else.

That will never happen, because we are a nation of spoiled little children.

The next solution is war.

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Okay, so if your "side" wins the "war", does that mean that you'll have everything your way?

Will your opposition be dead?
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I don't know. That statement is made more out of frustration than reason.

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[Correll]

If you agree with me that (a) the sides of the spectrum are only getting more divided, that (b) they're becoming less and less interested in working together, and that (c) the two "sides" are fairly evenly divided, here's a question:

What is the point of barely pushing through, on a purely partisan basis, agendas and legislation that only reflect "your side" of the country? Doesn't it seem temporary to you?

Doesn't it make sense that legislation that is the result of collaboration will likely be more permanent, since both "sides" have skin in the game?

What is you
r best argument for this country being ruled on a purely partisan basis, back and forth, back and forth?
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Well, the liberal side, is planning to win, by using Third World immigration to change the country into one where they always win.


That seems to be on track very nicely. When is the next time you expect California to vote Red?





The Conservative, or Republican side? Maybe if we can expose the lies, we can break the lock the Left has on the minority voters. Very unlikely, but it is the best chance we have, imo.

 

[progressive hunter]

once again the constitution doesn't even get mentioned,,,

That's because it's not particularly relevant to the point.

Do you think that one day you'll "win" and have everything your way from then on?
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what do you mean by winning???

and the constitution should always be relevant when discussing politics,,,

Well, here is your chance. Tell us how the constitution ties into the OP.

thats the problem,,,its not even a factor,,,

 

[Diver Diva]

It's not as "evenly" divided as the fake news / elitist media portrays it.

As you will see on November 3, 2020.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Commitment to liberty is the solution to all these problems.

 

[Rustic]

Getting along is way overrated. Rural and urban will never have the same interests, needs and wants. It is Ridiculous to even try to get along....

So you're comfortable with wild swings back and forth in legislation and policy?

Do you think that's healthy?
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Yes, Confrontation is a good thing when it comes to public policy. Chaos is healthy

 

[Rustic]

Getting along is way overrated. Rural and urban will never have the same interests, needs and wants. It is Ridiculous to even try to get along....

Yet those rural and urban areas came together and gave us the Constitution. Lucky for all of us our founding fathers were not as ignorant as you.

Lol
Ok, Rodney King

 

[Norman]

If you agree with me that (a) the sides of the spectrum are only getting more divided, that (b) they're becoming less and less interested in working together, and that (c) the two "sides" are fairly evenly divided, here's a question:

What is the point of barely pushing through, on a purely partisan basis, agendas and legislation that only reflect "your side" of the country? Doesn't it seem temporary to you?

Doesn't it make sense that legislation that is the result of collaboration will likely be more permanent, since both "sides" have skin in the game?

What is your best argument for this country being ruled on a purely partisan basis, back and forth, back and forth?
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The solution is for every citizen and politician to be committed to preserving liberty above all else.

That will never happen, because we are a nation of spoiled little children.

The next solution is war.

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Okay, so if your "side" wins the "war", does that mean that you'll have everything your way?

Will your opposition be dead?
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I don't know. That statement is made more out of frustration than reason.

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Which statement?

America has been subjected to the biggest mass migration of people in history. Such movements are consistent with war. Social moods change quickly... although I do believe the war is still over a decade away personally. Regardless, my statement is not made out of frustration.

 

[Briggs]

There is no real argument to advance the bipartisan approach to our elections. The only way any of this can change is one challenger appears to rub on the "welfare of the country" idealofue rather than the we

If you agree with me that (a) the sides of the spectrum are only getting more divided, that (b) they're becoming less and less interested in working together, and that (c) the two "sides" are fairly evenly divided, here's a question:

What is the point of barely pushing through, on a purely partisan basis, agendas and legislation that only reflect "your side" of the country? Doesn't it seem temporary to you?

Doesn't it make sense that legislation that is the result of collaboration will likely be more permanent, since both "sides" have skin in the game?

What is your best argument for this country being ruled on a purely partisan basis, back and forth, back and forth?
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once again the constitution doesn't even get mentioned,,,

Very interesting. If the citizens of this country realized we are the most successful nation in the world and that is due to out constitution, we would select the candidates that that ideologues followed the laws and basis of this country.

The problem with this is there are too many voters who are looking at socialism as a vehicle to put less effort in tasks to get more, not realizing that soon fails economically in any country.

 

[Mac1958]

Getting along is way overrated. Rural and urban will never have the same interests, needs and wants. It is Ridiculous to even try to get along....

Yet those rural and urban areas came together and gave us the Constitution. Lucky for all of us our founding fathers were not as ignorant as you.

The Constitution was/is the brilliant result of intelligent, innovative collaboration between significantly disparate but reasonable adults.

That no longer appears to be something that we're capable of.
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[DBA]

Commitment to liberty is the solution to all these problems.

Glad you used the word liberty vs freedom. Seems like the left has started using freedom as a synoynm for liberty. Our founding fathers granted us liberty, not freedom.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Liberty, Liberty, Liberty

Liberty

 

[Billiejeens]

Yeah -

I don't think that the people are evenly divided at all.
One position is just greatly magnified by the Media and the new gatekeepers of information.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Getting along is way overrated. Rural and urban will never have the same interests, needs and wants. It is Ridiculous to even try to get along....

Yet those rural and urban areas came together and gave us the Constitution. Lucky for all of us our founding fathers were not as ignorant as you.

The Constitution was/is the brilliant result of intelligent, innovative collaboration between significantly disparate but reasonable adults.

That no longer appears to be something that we're capable of.
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Yes. We are a nation of spoiled, idiot children focused only on Me, Me, Me.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Commitment to liberty is the solution to all these problems.

Glad you used the word liberty vs freedom. Seems like the left has started using freedom as a synoynm for liberty. Our founding fathers granted us liberty, not freedom.

AND...

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." —Thomas Jefferson

 

[Rustic]

Getting along is way overrated. Rural and urban will never have the same interests, needs and wants. It is Ridiculous to even try to get along....

Yet those rural and urban areas came together and gave us the Constitution. Lucky for all of us our founding fathers were not as ignorant as you.

The Constitution was/is the brilliant result of intelligent, innovative collaboration between significantly disparate but reasonable adults.

That no longer appears to be something that we're capable of.
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The divide in this country is obvious, No amount of political correctness and frivolous laws will change that.
What works for one side is a living hell for the other side… fact

 

[Jets]

Heres the rub. Our two parties are more concerned with winning elections and being whores for special interest groups. Why pass any legislation when it’s proven more effective to use it as wedge issues to pander for votes. The people get screwed because we are not a priority. Almost every politician knows that keeping us divided works to their advantage.

One of the reasons I'm for term limits. These people would not behave the same way if they weren't in constant base ass-kissing/re-election mode.

I wonder about the people in the parties, though, and if they really do think that one day they'll "win" and just have total control.
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I have no objection to term limits, but I’m not sure it solves the problem. Until we can control how money influences the political landscape, this US vs THEM mindset is going to continue ad nauseam.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Heres the rub. Our two parties are more concerned with winning elections and being whores for special interest groups. Why pass any legislation when it’s proven more effective to use it as wedge issues to pander for votes. The people get screwed because we are not a priority. Almost every politician knows that keeping us divided works to their advantage.

One of the reasons I'm for term limits. These people would not behave the same way if they weren't in constant base ass-kissing/re-election mode.

I wonder about the people in the parties, though, and if they really do think that one day they'll "win" and just have total control.
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I have no objection to term limits, but I’m not sure it solves the problem. Until we can control how money influences the political landscape, this US vs THEM mindset is going to continue ad nauseam.

All of those (term limits, special interests, etc) are symptoms of the real problem.

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[Mac1958]

Heres the rub. Our two parties are more concerned with winning elections and being whores for special interest groups. Why pass any legislation when it’s proven more effective to use it as wedge issues to pander for votes. The people get screwed because we are not a priority. Almost every politician knows that keeping us divided works to their advantage.

One of the reasons I'm for term limits. These people would not behave the same way if they weren't in constant base ass-kissing/re-election mode.

I wonder about the people in the parties, though, and if they really do think that one day they'll "win" and just have total control.
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I have no objection to term limits, but I’m not sure it solves the problem. Until we can control how money influences the political landscape, this US vs THEM mindset is going to continue ad nauseam.

I'd also be for publicly-funded elections, by the way, since the proliferation of media and social media has made traditional advertising less influential. Between that and term limits, and maybe a Balanced Budget Amendment of some kind, we'd be taking away the motivations that let these people behave like psychotic royalty.

We need to somehow change the system in which these people operate. There is no way they'd behave the same way if their REAL priorities were not fundraising, pleasing the whacked out base to avoid being primaried, and re-election. Over 90% of incumbents are re-elected because they're spending most of their time in office building and fortifying their power structure.
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