How Does A Snowflake Answer The Question:"What Is An Assault Weapon" ??

[Hutch Starskey]

An AR is the exact same rifle as my ranch rifle except that it has plastic components

And it matters not if a rifle has a detachable magazine

Then WHY do mass shooters choose it over and over as the weapon of choice, and WHY are people so upset about this one insignificant model of gun coming off the shelves?

Thank you.
If it's exactly the same, then who cares if it goes away.

If it's exactly the same as other rifles that will not be banned (and it is) why do you care if it stays ?

The functional capability of the weapon that makes it suitable for attacks will be banned.
Not just any particular platform.

What practical purpose is there for a thirty round magazine? Why is it necessary today more than in the past? What work requires a tool with a thirty round magazine rather than five or six rounds in an internal magazine?

The work of imaginary fears and fantasy.

You're standing on a position that the Bill of Rights is a limit on people and not the government. However, it is called the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs, nor the Bill of practical purpose.

It's already that way. If even one restriction is allowed, then any is. It is not unlimited. Your individual right to keep and bear arms is not and would not be taken away.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Intent can change. Everyone is a good guy with a gun until they aren't.

Vegas wasn't done with a car, a truck, a knife, an axe, or a brick. Stupid argument. It was only possible with the availability of the capable weaponry.

So then we should take everything away from you that can be used to kill because you are just a murderer in waiting right?

Why don't we start by amputating your hands and feet because hands and feet are used to kill more than rifles

I've said nothing about taking anything away from anyone. I've suggested it shouldn't be available.

So the millions of rifles that are already out there just what happens to them exactly?

A well maintained firearm has a lifespan of many many decades

Buy back. As an example, there are just under 2 million ARs. Pay above retail for turn in. Let's say $2k. That would be the best $4b ever spent. Do the same w/handguns. Even illegal ones. Maybe those kids on the street would find it more lucrative to turn them in rather than use them or sell them on. It would also kill the black market trade.

You could buy back every fucking illegal handgun in every inner city shithole in the country. Within a couple of months there would be the same number of illegal handguns in every inner city shithole. The illegal guns arrive with the illegal drugs.

Interesting. Where do you imagine they come from?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It's all that matters. It's the difference between a tool and a weapon.

No.

The difference between a tool and a weapon is the intent of the person wielding the tool

More people are killed knives than rifles so which is deadlier?

Intent can change. Everyone is a good guy with a gun until they aren't.

Vegas wasn't done with a car, a truck, a knife, an axe, or a brick. Stupid argument. It was only possible with the availability of the capable weaponry.

So then we should take everything away from you that can be used to kill because you are just a murderer in waiting right?

Why don't we start by amputating your hands and feet because hands and feet are used to kill more than rifles

I've said nothing about taking anything away from anyone. I've suggested it shouldn't be available.

Then where does it stop?
I had a neighbor who lost his wife to a robbery where a BRICK was used as the weapon.
Are you suggesting bricks should not be available? An ill raised kid bent on vengeance without a gun will just use poison or bombs instead. Where does your suggestion end?
I give you a path to righteousness, but you reject it to blame mere tools in the hands of the wicked, which you help create through lack of righteousness.-Go Figure!
A scalpel in the hands of a Dr helps saves lives, but that same scalpel in the hands of a destructive personality can be used to harm people and even take a life. You suggest a scalpel should not exist, until you need that scalpel to save your own life.-food for thought.

Where did I say you shouldn't have a gun for self defense?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

An assault weapon is whatever a given lawmaking body determines it to be, as a fact of law.

An assault weapon is not solely a select fire rifle or carbine chambred in an intermediate round.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

An assault weapon is whatever a given lawmaking body determines it to be, as a fact of law.

An assault weapon is not solely a select fire rifle or carbine chambred in an intermediate round.

Thank you.
It has more to do with the functional capabilities rather than any particular platform or appearance.

 

[OldLady]

The problem is, you, and those who are for restricting guns, are NOT right

How did they ask the question about assault weapons? Did they explain that an AR-15 is NOT an assault weapon?

BTW....That does NOT make them right.

Not to be rude, but I think everyone but you knows what they mean by "assault weapon."

No, they don't. Most gun murders are with hand guns.

We seem to be focusing on mass murders right now. They are not mostly done with hand guns.

Mass murders (a sketchy term) is the tiniest of a fraction of a percent of the deaths caused by guns in general.

Yet three of the worst in our history have happened in the past six months. They are gaining. In the decade after the assault weapons ban expired, mass shootings and the number of people killed tripled. How much worse does it have to become before it becomes significant to you?

 

[miketx]

An assault weapon is whatever a given lawmaking body determines it to be, as a fact of law.

An assault weapon is not solely a select fire rifle or carbine chambred in an intermediate round.

Thank you.
It has more to do with the functional capabilities rather than any particular platform or appearance.

Right. That's why the failed Clinton assault weapons ban limited guns with flash suppressors, pistol grips, heat shields and muzzle brakes. Liars all.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

An assault weapon is whatever a given lawmaking body determines it to be, as a fact of law.

An assault weapon is not solely a select fire rifle or carbine chambred in an intermediate round.

Thank you.
It has more to do with the functional capabilities rather than any particular platform or appearance.

Right. That's why the failed Clinton assault weapons ban limited guns with flash suppressors, pistol grips, heat shields and muzzle brakes. Liars all.

It can be defined in any way.

 

[jc456]

There is, in popular parlance, the term 'assault weapon'. In generic terms, an assault weapon is a weapon that includes a semi-automatic firing system fed by a high capacity ammunition magazine. There are distinct guns designed for sporting purposes. Among these are hunting rifles (bolt and lever action), pump action shot guns designed to hunt water fowl or shoot clay pigeons, and pistols and revolvers designed for target shooting and self defense.

Assault weapons, on the other hand, have design characteristics more akin to combat weapons. Characteristics that do not necessarily augment their use in sporting activities.

You wanted a definition, you got one.

Now, I know your reputation. You will no doubt respond with a smiley emoticon denoting you think this post is funny. If you want to discuss the merits and virtues of the weapons I described as 'assault weapons', fine. But if all you seek are posts you can ridicule as poorly framed, inarticulate or just plain silly, you might find that some opinions that differ from your own still have merit.

well why don't you post up a link with a quote to back your post. Because a knife is an assault weapon, a rock can be an assault weapon, a car can be an assault weapon.

 

[Marion Morrison]

These kids know what an assault weapon is!

All I see is a target rich environment that can't shoot back..

Did you know the March for Our Lives was crawling with armed security - hundreds of them?

Isn't that a riot?

They're protecting the useful idiots right up until they are no longer useful....
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They aren't using Assault rifles, they're using submachine guns.

 

[Marion Morrison]

An assault weapon is whatever a given lawmaking body determines it to be, as a fact of law.

An assault weapon is not solely a select fire rifle or carbine chambred in an intermediate round.

Thank you.
It has more to do with the functional capabilities rather than any particular platform or appearance.

Right. That's why the failed Clinton assault weapons ban limited guns with flash suppressors, pistol grips, heat shields and muzzle brakes. Liars all.

But SKS sales skyrocketed.

 

[jc456]

There is, in popular parlance, the term 'assault weapon'. In generic terms, an assault weapon is a weapon that includes a semi-automatic firing system fed by a high capacity ammunition magazine. There are distinct guns designed for sporting purposes. Among these are hunting rifles (bolt and lever action), pump action shot guns designed to hunt water fowl or shoot clay pigeons, and pistols and revolvers designed for target shooting and self defense.

Assault weapons, on the other hand, have design characteristics more akin to combat weapons. Characteristics that do not necessarily augment their use in sporting activities.

You wanted a definition, you got one.

Now, I know your reputation. You will no doubt respond with a smiley emoticon denoting you think this post is funny. If you want to discuss the merits and virtues of the weapons I described as 'assault weapons', fine. But if all you seek are posts you can ridicule as poorly framed, inarticulate or just plain silly, you might find that some opinions that differ from your own still have merit.

well why don't you post up a link with a quote to back your post. Because a knife is an assault weapon, a rock can be an assault weapon, a car can be an assault weapon.

The Assault Weapon Myth

"OVER the past two decades, the majority of Americans in a country deeply divided over gun control have coalesced behind a single proposition: The sale of assault weapons should be banned.

That idea was one of the pillars of the Obama administration’s plan to curb gun violence, and it remains popular with the public. In a poll last December, 59 percent of likely voters said they favor a ban.

But in the 10 years since the previous ban lapsed, even gun control advocates acknowledge a larger truth: The law that barred the sale of assault weapons from 1994 to 2004 made little difference.

It turns out that big, scary military rifles don’t kill the vast majority of the 11,000 Americans murdered with guns each year. Little handguns do.

In 2012, only 322 people were murdered with any kind of rifle, F.B.I. data shows."

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

There is, in popular parlance, the term 'assault weapon'. In generic terms, an assault weapon is a weapon that includes a semi-automatic firing system fed by a high capacity ammunition magazine. There are distinct guns designed for sporting purposes. Among these are hunting rifles (bolt and lever action), pump action shot guns designed to hunt water fowl or shoot clay pigeons, and pistols and revolvers designed for target shooting and self defense.

Assault weapons, on the other hand, have design characteristics more akin to combat weapons. Characteristics that do not necessarily augment their use in sporting activities.

You wanted a definition, you got one.

Now, I know your reputation. You will no doubt respond with a smiley emoticon denoting you think this post is funny. If you want to discuss the merits and virtues of the weapons I described as 'assault weapons', fine. But if all you seek are posts you can ridicule as poorly framed, inarticulate or just plain silly, you might find that some opinions that differ from your own still have merit.

well why don't you post up a link with a quote to back your post. Because a knife is an assault weapon, a rock can be an assault weapon, a car can be an assault weapon.

...and so can a semi-auto AR 15, as determined by the law.

 

[Darkwind]

Then WHY do mass shooters choose it over and over as the weapon of choice, and WHY are people so upset about this one insignificant model of gun coming off the shelves?

Thank you.
If it's exactly the same, then who cares if it goes away.

If it's exactly the same as other rifles that will not be banned (and it is) why do you care if it stays ?

The functional capability of the weapon that makes it suitable for attacks will be banned.
Not just any particular platform.

What practical purpose is there for a thirty round magazine? Why is it necessary today more than in the past? What work requires a tool with a thirty round magazine rather than five or six rounds in an internal magazine?

The work of imaginary fears and fantasy.

You're standing on a position that the Bill of Rights is a limit on people and not the government. However, it is called the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs, nor the Bill of practical purpose.

It's already that way. If even one restriction is allowed, then any is. It is not unlimited. Your individual right to keep and bear arms is not and would not be taken away.

By banning a single rifle, you have taken away My right to keep and bear arms. You and your ilk are punishing the innocent out of fear.

 

[Darkwind]

How did they ask the question about assault weapons? Did they explain that an AR-15 is NOT an assault weapon?

BTW....That does NOT make them right.

Not to be rude, but I think everyone but you knows what they mean by "assault weapon."

No, they don't. Most gun murders are with hand guns.

We seem to be focusing on mass murders right now. They are not mostly done with hand guns.

Mass murders (a sketchy term) is the tiniest of a fraction of a percent of the deaths caused by guns in general.

Yet three of the worst in our history have happened in the past six months. They are gaining. In the decade after the assault weapons ban expired, mass shootings and the number of people killed tripled. How much worse does it have to become before it becomes significant to you?

You, and the rest of the radical grabbers, have yet to correlate gun ownership to and out of control mass shooting spree.

It is NOT the guns. It is the people.

 

[Darkwind]

An assault weapon is whatever a given lawmaking body determines it to be, as a fact of law.

An assault weapon is not solely a select fire rifle or carbine chambred in an intermediate round.

You really work at being wrong, don't you?

 

[Rexx Taylor]

You'll have to ask the snowflakes at the nRA who made their convention a gun-free zone for safety. From their own gullible followers.

The snow drifts in the hall were 8 feet deep.

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snowflake: so like, like, I think an assault weapon, is like a weapon people use for assaulting other people, like totally?

 

[dannyboys]

So then we should take everything away from you that can be used to kill because you are just a murderer in waiting right?

Why don't we start by amputating your hands and feet because hands and feet are used to kill more than rifles

I've said nothing about taking anything away from anyone. I've suggested it shouldn't be available.

So the millions of rifles that are already out there just what happens to them exactly?

A well maintained firearm has a lifespan of many many decades

Buy back. As an example, there are just under 2 million ARs. Pay above retail for turn in. Let's say $2k. That would be the best $4b ever spent. Do the same w/handguns. Even illegal ones. Maybe those kids on the street would find it more lucrative to turn them in rather than use them or sell them on. It would also kill the black market trade.

You could buy back every fucking illegal handgun in every inner city shithole in the country. Within a couple of months there would be the same number of illegal handguns in every inner city shithole. The illegal guns arrive with the illegal drugs.

Interesting. Where do you imagine they come from?

Illegal guns are made in Eastern European manufacturing plants/back alley Chinese and Indian plants.
US arms manufacturers have been fighting in court for decades attempting to stop their gun designs/technology from being ripped off by the Europeans/China/India. These guns are traded for mostly heroin. The Mexican drug cartels purchase the heroin and guns from these countries and smuggle the heroin/guns into the US. And everyone is happy.
Anyone with a barrel of KFC can go into any inner city shithole and trade it for a very cheap, say Glock knockoff and one full clip. The knockoff may or may not work.
That's how ten year old budding gangbagers can get an illegal handgun for fifty bucks.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

An assault weapon is whatever a given lawmaking body determines it to be, as a fact of law.

It disturbs the fuck out of me that you and people like you are willing to let those assholes make that kind of decision. Were it a right you cared about, would you be so willing to spread your butt cheeks?

 

[dannyboys]

There is, in popular parlance, the term 'assault weapon'. In generic terms, an assault weapon is a weapon that includes a semi-automatic firing system fed by a high capacity ammunition magazine. There are distinct guns designed for sporting purposes. Among these are hunting rifles (bolt and lever action), pump action shot guns designed to hunt water fowl or shoot clay pigeons, and pistols and revolvers designed for target shooting and self defense.

Assault weapons, on the other hand, have design characteristics more akin to combat weapons. Characteristics that do not necessarily augment their use in sporting activities.

You wanted a definition, you got one.

Now, I know your reputation. You will no doubt respond with a smiley emoticon denoting you think this post is funny. If you want to discuss the merits and virtues of the weapons I described as 'assault weapons', fine. But if all you seek are posts you can ridicule as poorly framed, inarticulate or just plain silly, you might find that some opinions that differ from your own still have merit.

well why don't you post up a link with a quote to back your post. Because a knife is an assault weapon, a rock can be an assault weapon, a car can be an assault weapon.

The Assault Weapon Myth

"OVER the past two decades, the majority of Americans in a country deeply divided over gun control have coalesced behind a single proposition: The sale of assault weapons should be banned.

That idea was one of the pillars of the Obama administration’s plan to curb gun violence, and it remains popular with the public. In a poll last December, 59 percent of likely voters said they favor a ban.

But in the 10 years since the previous ban lapsed, even gun control advocates acknowledge a larger truth: The law that barred the sale of assault weapons from 1994 to 2004 made little difference.

It turns out that big, scary military rifles don’t kill the vast majority of the 11,000 Americans murdered with guns each year. Little handguns do.

In 2012, only 322 people were murdered with any kind of rifle, F.B.I. data shows."

In Fact the 'ban' was put on 'assault rifles' NOT assault weapons. BIG DIFFERENCE.
All through 1994-2004 anyone who for some reason was not banned from owning any firearm could purchase a semi-automatic rifle.
Not even the shooter in Vegas could get his hands on an 'assault rifle'. He had to use bump-stocks.