How embarrassing...

[Crixus]

Na, the reality is that Trump got enough votes to beat Hillary. There is no other fact. Another fact is that America is kind of disgusted by the Clintons. Bubba is the only cool one really.

Y'all keep forgetting that America voted for Hillary by 3 million votes. (More votes than any white presidential candidate in history) The Electoral College is not America.

The electoral collage is as American as it gets and here longer than you were.

It's as American Institution as much as slavery was. Without slavery we wouldn't have the Electoral College. Fact.

The Electoral College Has Been Divisive Since Day One | History | Smithsonian

Even when a half black democrat wins?

Yes, even then. The "need" for the EC no longer exists. Even the most remote living back woods dumb fuck has access to topical news and information of the day. This last remnant of our slave owning past should be dismantled before any stupid statue.

Mm, well should, coulda would, Trump is presidant all leagle and stuff. Time to move beyond the fact and start living again.

 

[Crixus]

Na, the reality is that Trump got enough votes to beat Hillary. There is no other fact. Another fact is that America is kind of disgusted by the Clintons. Bubba is the only cool one really.

Y'all keep forgetting that America voted for Hillary by 3 million votes. (More votes than any white presidential candidate in history) The Electoral College is not America.

The electoral collage is as American as it gets and here longer than you were.

It's as American Institution as much as slavery was. Without slavery we wouldn't have the Electoral College. Fact.

The Electoral College Has Been Divisive Since Day One | History | Smithsonian

Can you refute any of it or is an emoji all you have?

Just did but you are arguing ahat would be nice, but refusing to accept what is and has been. Deal with it.

 

[peach174]

Na, the reality is that Trump got enough votes to beat Hillary. There is no other fact. Another fact is that America is kind of disgusted by the Clintons. Bubba is the only cool one really.

Y'all keep forgetting that America voted for Hillary by 3 million votes. (More votes than any white presidential candidate in history) The Electoral College is not America.

The electoral collage is as American as it gets and here longer than you were.

It's as American Institution as much as slavery was. Without slavery we wouldn't have the Electoral College. Fact.

The Electoral College Has Been Divisive Since Day One | History | Smithsonian

Even when a half black democrat wins?

Yes, even then. The "need" for the EC no longer exists. Even the most remote living back woods dumb fuck has access to topical news and information of the day. This last remnant of our slave owning past should be dismantled before any stupid statue.

The EC is as relevant as it was when it was written.
You just saw the people and Trump use it to over throw a tyrannical Government.
It has nothing to do with information getting to the people.
Even back then people in remote areas had to go to cities and towns to get supplies and that's how there were informed and caught up on news and politics.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Na, the reality is that Trump got enough votes to beat Hillary. There is no other fact. Another fact is that America is kind of disgusted by the Clintons. Bubba is the only cool one really.

Y'all keep forgetting that America voted for Hillary by 3 million votes. (More votes than any white presidential candidate in history) The Electoral College is not America.

The electoral collage is as American as it gets and here longer than you were.

It's as American Institution as much as slavery was. Without slavery we wouldn't have the Electoral College. Fact.

The Electoral College Has Been Divisive Since Day One | History | Smithsonian

Can you refute any of it or is an emoji all you have?

The opinion is based on a book and nothing more. It's one mans opinion.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Na, the reality is that Trump got enough votes to beat Hillary. There is no other fact. Another fact is that America is kind of disgusted by the Clintons. Bubba is the only cool one really.

Y'all keep forgetting that America voted for Hillary by 3 million votes. (More votes than any white presidential candidate in history) The Electoral College is not America.

The electoral collage is as American as it gets and here longer than you were.

It's as American Institution as much as slavery was. Without slavery we wouldn't have the Electoral College. Fact.

The Electoral College Has Been Divisive Since Day One | History | Smithsonian

Even when a half black democrat wins?

Yes, even then. The "need" for the EC no longer exists. Even the most remote living back woods dumb fuck has access to topical news and information of the day. This last remnant of our slave owning past should be dismantled before any stupid statue.

Then why didn't YOUR representatives work on it when they had leadership of Congress, the Senate and the White House?

Even if it were possible and actually happened, the Republicans would work to get the popular vote, and after a few elections of losing again, you leftists would call it unconstitutional since we didn't use the EC.

It has nothing to do with slavery, it has to do with sore losers.

 

[Seawytch]

Y'all keep forgetting that America voted for Hillary by 3 million votes. (More votes than any white presidential candidate in history) The Electoral College is not America.

The electoral collage is as American as it gets and here longer than you were.

It's as American Institution as much as slavery was. Without slavery we wouldn't have the Electoral College. Fact.

The Electoral College Has Been Divisive Since Day One | History | Smithsonian

Even when a half black democrat wins?

Yes, even then. The "need" for the EC no longer exists. Even the most remote living back woods dumb fuck has access to topical news and information of the day. This last remnant of our slave owning past should be dismantled before any stupid statue.

The EC is as relevant as it was when it was written.
You just saw the people and Trump use it to over throw a tyrannical Government.
It has nothing to do with information getting to the people.
Even back then people in remote areas had to go to cities and towns to get supplies and that's how there were informed and caught up on news and politics.

No it isn't...if you know the reasons it was put in place. You, obviously, don't.

One Founding-era argument for the Electoral College stemmed from the fact that ordinary Americans across a vast continent would lack sufficient information to choose directly and intelligently among leading presidential candidates.

This objection rang true in the 1780s, when life was far more local. But the early emergence of national presidential parties rendered the objection obsolete by linking presidential candidates to slates of local candidates and national platforms, which explained to voters who stood for what.

The Troubling Reason the Electoral College Exists

 

[P@triot]

The states that owned slaves, the southern states, have been the states most resistant to change.

Yep....and the southern states were almost exclusively Democrat. Hence the term "southern Democrats".

You're really stuck on the party thing. They were conservative, white Christians. Always have been. That is where opposition to civil rights came from since they were slave states. Party affiliation irrelevant.

They were white progressives, sweetie. That's just a fact. And your desperation to add "christian" every time is pitiful and transparent. Stop trying to demonize christianity because you don't like the fact that the Bible forbids homosexuality.

 

[P@triot]

The "need" for the EC no longer exists. Even the most remote living back woods dumb fuck has access to topical news and information of the day. This last remnant of our slave owning past should be dismantled before any stupid statue.

My God...the idiotic sites you visit for information is making you look like a buffoon. The Electoral College was never implemented because of "information". It was implemented because:

A. The founders didn't want a dense city to have more power and control over the direction of the U.S. than an entire state

B. To prevent candidates to pandering to a dense city and throw federal resources at it in exchange for their vote

It's amazing how the left is completely and totally clueless of their own history. They still haven't figured out that everything the founders did was to avoid power.

 

[Scorpion]

Na, the reality is that Trump got enough votes to beat Hillary. There is no other fact. Another fact is that America is kind of disgusted by the Clintons. Bubba is the only cool one really.

Y'all keep forgetting that America voted for Hillary by 3 million votes. (More votes than any white presidential candidate in history) The Electoral College is not America.

The electoral collage is as American as it gets and here longer than you were.

It's as American Institution as much as slavery was. Without slavery we wouldn't have the Electoral College. Fact.

The Electoral College Has Been Divisive Since Day One | History | Smithsonian

Even when a half black democrat wins?

Yes, even then. The "need" for the EC no longer exists. Even the most remote living back woods dumb fuck has access to topical news and information of the day. This last remnant of our slave owning past should be dismantled before any stupid statue.

if Hillary won you wouldn't give a crap.

 

[Seawytch]

The states that owned slaves, the southern states, have been the states most resistant to change.

Yep....and the southern states were almost exclusively Democrat. Hence the term "southern Democrats".

You're really stuck on the party thing. They were conservative, white Christians. Always have been. That is where opposition to civil rights came from since they were slave states. Party affiliation irrelevant.

They were white progressives, sweetie. That's just a fact. And your desperation to add "christian" every time is pitiful and transparent. Stop trying to demonize christianity because you don't like the fact that the Bible forbids homosexuality.

Progressives? Come on, now I know you aren't for real. Their political party was Democrat, their ideology was conservative and segregationist.

They were white, Christian, southerners. That is a simple fact you can't deny.

The KKK rose from the defeated, traitorous ashes of former slave owners pisses off because they could no longer possess other human beings. That is the farthest from progressive as you can be.

It's an uncomfortable truth that until the 1960s, racist, southern Christian white supremacists were members of the Democratic Party. That's also history and is no longer the case. Those racist white supremacists are still primarily white, Christian southerners...however they are no longer Democrats.

 

[Seawytch]

Y'all keep forgetting that America voted for Hillary by 3 million votes. (More votes than any white presidential candidate in history) The Electoral College is not America.

The electoral collage is as American as it gets and here longer than you were.

It's as American Institution as much as slavery was. Without slavery we wouldn't have the Electoral College. Fact.

The Electoral College Has Been Divisive Since Day One | History | Smithsonian

Even when a half black democrat wins?

Yes, even then. The "need" for the EC no longer exists. Even the most remote living back woods dumb fuck has access to topical news and information of the day. This last remnant of our slave owning past should be dismantled before any stupid statue.

if Hillary won you wouldn't give a crap.

I would still give a crap that this last vestige of slavery exists to thwart democracy. What would be different is that you'd give a crap. The only way the EC is ever going away is if a Republican wins the popular vote and a Democrat the EC.

Denial ain't just a river...


BUSH SET TO FIGHT AN ELECTORAL COLLEGE LOSS

History is an amazing thing isn't it?

 

[Seawytch]

The "need" for the EC no longer exists. Even the most remote living back woods dumb fuck has access to topical news and information of the day. This last remnant of our slave owning past should be dismantled before any stupid statue.

My God...the idiotic sites you visit for information is making you look like a buffoon. The Electoral College was never implemented because of "information". It was implemented because:

A. The founders didn't want a dense city to have more power and control over the direction of the U.S. than an entire state

B. To prevent candidates to pandering to a dense city and throw federal resources at it in exchange for their vote

It's amazing how the left is completely and totally clueless of their own history. They still haven't figured out that everything the founders did was to avoid power.

You didn't read a single link I provided. Stay ignorant, puppy, it suits you.

 

[peach174]

The "need" for the EC no longer exists. Even the most remote living back woods dumb fuck has access to topical news and information of the day. This last remnant of our slave owning past should be dismantled before any stupid statue.

My God...the idiotic sites you visit for information is making you look like a buffoon. The Electoral College was never implemented because of "information". It was implemented because:

A. The founders didn't want a dense city to have more power and control over the direction of the U.S. than an entire state

B. To prevent candidates to pandering to a dense city and throw federal resources at it in exchange for their vote

It's amazing how the left is completely and totally clueless of their own history. They still haven't figured out that everything the founders did was to avoid power.

You didn't read a single link I provided. Stay ignorant, puppy, it suits you.

You are the uninformed one.
He stated historical facts.

 

[oreo]

The left is "furious" about slavery. They want statues of Robert E. Lee torn down. They want his name removed from buildings. They are "outraged"!

But.....uh.....there are schools, roads, and bridges bearing the name of former Democrat Senator Robert Byrd - a high ranking member of the KKK.

So....uh....where is the "outrage" by the fascists? Why aren't they rioting down in West Virginia? Why haven't they blown up the Robert C. Byrd bridge? Why haven't they torn down Byrd street signs and Byrd schools?

Oops.... Turns out the left could care less if you are a fierc racist, so long as you are a devout socialist. Not surprising in the least, considering they are the party of racism. They fought for slavery, founded the KKK, and fought against the Civil Rights movement.

Sign the Petition

Many of these statues were put up decades after the Civil War ended and are now being used by White Supremacists and Neo Nazi's for meeting places and a rallying cry.

Some of these monuments have become rallying points for white nationalists and other far-right groups, including Southern neo-secessionists.The establishment of Confederate monuments, which crested between 1900 and 1930 and again during the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s, didn’t end with the 20th century. In North Carolina, for instance, 35 monuments have been added since 2000.

Confederate monuments, more than 700 across USA, aren't budging

There's another one they want to tear down on Stone Mountain--that is actually used for a meeting place for the KKK.

Stone Mountain is a quartz monzonite dome monadnock and the site of Stone Mountain Park in Stone Mountain, Georgia. At its summit, the elevation is 1,686 feet (514 m) MSL and 825 feet (251 m) above the surrounding area. Stone Mountain is well-known not only for its geology, but also for the enormous rock relief on its north face, the largest bas-relief in the world.[1] The carving depicts three Confederate figures during the Civil War: Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. Stone Mountain was once owned by the Venable Brothers and was the site of the founding of the second Ku Klux Klan in 1915. It was purchased by the State of Georgia in 1958.

Candidate for Governor Calls for Removal of Stone Mountain Carving - American Renaissance

Since many were erected during the Civil rights movement of the 1960's they were done for one reason only. To intimidate Black Americans--and to show the world that the South has no humility or shame regarding slavery and or the Civil War.

I don't think we as Americans would tolerate statues of Adolph Hitler or SS Nazi's in uniform in our public parks and situated on Government buildings. I can easily understand how Black Americans feel about traversing government buildings and public parks with confederate statues & memorabilia all over the place. It reminds them of a very dark past. Oppression and slavery.

Put them in Civil War Museums and they can no longer be used by Neo-Nazi's and White Supremacists, and Black Americans are not forced to look at them.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Put them in Civil War Museums and they can no longer be used by Neo-Nazi's and White Supremacists, and Black Americans are not forced to look at them.

Snowflakes.

 

[JoeB131]

Means shit Joe. So says the law. Deal with it.

The law once said a black person was 3/5th of a white man. Didn't make it right or even a good idea.

Trump won on a technicality, not because the people wanted him. That makes his presidency illegitimate. That and he's morally and intellectually unfit for the job.

The electoral collage is as American as it gets and here longer than you were.

The thing was, from 1888 to 2000, it really didn't matter what the electoral college did because it confirmed the popular vote. Now we have a guy who never should have been put into office, who the people rejected. and you guys can't admit you made a mistake.

 

[Conservative65]

Those soldiers legally took it down. They actually did something for that to happen. The pussies in Durham didn't. Why can't you see the difference?

They illegally invaded a country on false pretenses? Yeah, I guess they "did something".

Nothing illegal about it.

Why is it a lie when Bush said it but not when these Democrats said the same thing?

Since most blacks today support Democrats, they say fuck you to themselves. You say those statues remind blacks of slavery yet they make themselves slaves to Democrats by choice. How sad.

Okay, once again, you repeat a lot of cliches that have nothing to do with reality.

It's a choice by blacks to stay on that plantation.

Most black folks have jobs.
Most people on welfare are white. (and that's not counting middle class entitlements like Social Security.)

Not when it comes to proportions. The raw number on welfare is greater for whites. However, you seem to forget that there are 5x as many whites as blacks in the country. Until the percentage of welfare used by whites is 5x as much as blacks, your statement isn't based in reality. 1 in 3 1/2 blacks is on food stamps,. Only 1 in 12 - 13 whites is. See how that works when you look at the important part of the numbers?

 

[JoeB131]

Yup. LBJ even would change how he said the n word depending on which he was talking to at the time. Even called his civil rights bill "the n!gger Bill.

first, a lot of these stories are apocryphal.

Second, at the end of the day, he did the right thing, and Southern White reacted by joining the GOP, who had no problem embracing racism.

So if you look at the 1964 bill as that key moment when the GOP decided they would embrace racism, and the democrats decided they would fight it, to the point now where the GOP is defending statues of old dead racists. you know, the ones Lincoln put the beat down to.

 

[Conservative65]

Means shit Joe. So says the law. Deal with it.

The law once said a black person was 3/5th of a white man. Didn't make it right or even a good idea.

Trump won on a technicality, not because the people wanted him. That makes his presidency illegitimate. That and he's morally and intellectually unfit for the job.

The electoral collage is as American as it gets and here longer than you were.

The thing was, from 1888 to 2000, it really didn't matter what the electoral college did because it confirmed the popular vote. Now we have a guy who never should have been put into office, who the people rejected. and you guys can't admit you made a mistake.

He won by using the system the Constitution set up. That's not a technicality.

Why do you hate the Constitution?

 

[Crixus]

The electoral collage is as American as it gets and here longer than you were.

It's as American Institution as much as slavery was. Without slavery we wouldn't have the Electoral College. Fact.

The Electoral College Has Been Divisive Since Day One | History | Smithsonian

Even when a half black democrat wins?

Yes, even then. The "need" for the EC no longer exists. Even the most remote living back woods dumb fuck has access to topical news and information of the day. This last remnant of our slave owning past should be dismantled before any stupid statue.

if Hillary won you wouldn't give a crap.

I would still give a crap that this last vestige of slavery exists to thwart democracy. What would be different is that you'd give a crap. The only way the EC is ever going away is if a Republican wins the popular vote and a Democrat the EC.

Denial ain't just a river...


BUSH SET TO FIGHT AN ELECTORAL COLLEGE LOSS

History is an amazing thing isn't it?

Not only does s that stupid it's Alex Jones like in nature. So far as I know it was a democrat who tried to steal an election

Means shit Joe. So says the law. Deal with it.

The law once said a black person was 3/5th of a white man. Didn't make it right or even a good idea.

Trump won on a technicality, not because the people wanted him. That makes his presidency illegitimate. That and he's morally and intellectually unfit for the job.

The electoral collage is as American as it gets and here longer than you were.

The thing was, from 1888 to 2000, it really didn't matter what the electoral college did because it confirmed the popular vote. Now we have a guy who never should have been put into office, who the people rejected. and you guys can't admit you made a mistake.

Don't care, it's a non issue, and only an issue for democrats when they lose. Even so, the EC sing like you said I can understand bringing it up in 2000 when it was so close it was crazy, but Trump stomped Hillary. He beat her at a game she knew better and you are mad.