How SMART is your region?

You couldn't pay me to commute by train aka cattle car.

I'd rather drive.

You must live where there's no traffic. Try commuting in Houston these days. Third largest city in the U.S. and no mass transit. Just miles of clogged freeways.
You couldn't pay me to commute by train aka cattle car.

I'd rather drive.

And I suspect your grandfather or his stood by the road and yelled, "get a horse" when the first automobile passed by.

Sorry but a car is more modern than a train.

Depends on where you live. It's embarrassing that the Chinese have a better transit system than any auto maker anywhere. Yup, that's Arnold in China.
schwarzenegg.jpg

 
A new rail system is to open next year, making the commute from northern counties into San Francisco and even (silicon valley) faster, safer, cheaper and cleaner for the environment.

See the future, and are your community leaders looking ahead, or protecting the status quo?

Smart Train North Bay Sonoma Marin SMART Sonoma Marin Area Rail Transit Passenger train and multi-use pathway project







How much of a subsidy is required to keep it going? Has BART ever turned a profit? Why are BART employees so grossly overpaid? Why are BART cops so damned bad? Has a BART cop ever done a Felony Stop? Well, I know one Sgt. who has, because my friends on the Richmond PD force MADE him do one.

BART has never turned a profit but thats OK. The point is that without BART commutes that are already bad would be complete gridlock.
Bay Area Rapid Transit - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
In New York, our wonderful public transportation system still does not offer WiFi, started drilling a tunnel that is now at least $15 Billion short of the funds needed to develop as proposed, and is already $34 Billion in debt.

That's Freddo Corleone Smart


NYC has to have a mass transit system. Manhattan is an island, unless you hadn't noticed.
It's nearly impossible to get in by car and then nowhere to park unless you want to pay $35 per hour.
 
You couldn't pay me to commute by train aka cattle car.

I'd rather drive.

You must live where there's no traffic. Try commuting in Houston these days. Third largest city in the U.S. and no mass transit. Just miles of clogged freeways.
You couldn't pay me to commute by train aka cattle car.

I'd rather drive.

And I suspect your grandfather or his stood by the road and yelled, "get a horse" when the first automobile passed by.

Sorry but a car is more modern than a train.

Depends on where you live. It's embarrassing that the Chinese have a better transit system than any auto maker anywhere. Yup, that's Arnold in China.
schwarzenegg.jpg




Why not advance to the 21st century and advocate for something that will actually work like telecommuting?
 
Yeah, driving a car is fine is you don't live here:

"""Among the worst offenders:
–The Los Angeles US-101 and I-405 Interchange, which results in 27 million plus hours of delay each year;
–Houston I-610 and I-10 Interchange, which costs 25 million hours plus hours of delay;
–Chicago I-90/94 and I-290 Interchange. Known as the Circle Interchange, it leads to 25 million hours of delay per year;
–Phoenix I-10 and SR-51 Interchange causes 22 million delay-hours annually; and
–Los Angeles I-405 and I-10 Interchange. This San Diego Freeway exchange has causes 22 million hours of annual delay."""

America s Worst Traffic Traps - Forbes
 
A new rail system is to open next year, making the commute from northern counties into San Francisco and even (silicon valley) faster, safer, cheaper and cleaner for the environment.

See the future, and are your community leaders looking ahead, or protecting the status quo?

Smart Train North Bay Sonoma Marin SMART Sonoma Marin Area Rail Transit Passenger train and multi-use pathway project







How much of a subsidy is required to keep it going? Has BART ever turned a profit? Why are BART employees so grossly overpaid? Why are BART cops so damned bad? Has a BART cop ever done a Felony Stop? Well, I know one Sgt. who has, because my friends on the Richmond PD force MADE him do one.

BART has never turned a profit but thats OK. The point is that without BART commutes that are already bad would be complete gridlock.
Bay Area Rapid Transit - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia





Only because the Bay area refuses to do highway improvements. There are STILL freeways that have not been rebuilt after the Loma Prieta earthquake of 1989. That was a perfect opportunity to go in an do major updates and reconstruction that would have helped the commuters AND laid the groundwork for an efficient public transport system.

But no, the asshats in charge and their environmental whacko string pullers had to go and screw that up. Once again demonstrating that they really don't care about the small guy, they care about power and that is all they care about.

If you truly wanted to get rid of gridlock the only way to do that is allow the vast majority of people who work in the paper pushing enterprises to telecommute. THAT would have a significant affect on all the commutes in the world, and contribute to employee well being and quality of life.

Um, which freeways have been neglected, and which have not been rebuilt?

I live here, and call bullshit. Your first paragraph is all opinion sans facts. I can post photos of on going and completed projects related to the quake of '89 and funding via the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

Traffic is a nightmare, but not for the reasons expressed. The big problem is every county has their own public transportation system and navigating form one to another can be a headache.

Planing is in the works to reestablish a ferry system, expand BART to the east in Contra Costa County and South to San Jose; Capitol Corrider Train already moves commuters from the East Bay Counties to Sacramento Co and beyond with convenient transfers to BART, and makes convenient transfers from BART to SFO and CAL train to Santa Clara County South, the ACE Train transports commuters from San Joaquin County to San Jose (Santa Clara County) with transfers local public transportation up through Santa Clara County to San Mateo County and connecting to BART at Millbrae.

I can walk one block from my home, get a bus to BART and from there get to anywhere in the world.
 
Even with it's problems we are better off with Bart than without it. But the problems were man made, the same as with the new Bay bridge.

We have Silicon Valley. But Bart management went to England, home of the worst electrical and electronic manufacturers in the world, for the computer system.

Then there is the problem of parking. The stations I can get to have woefully inadequate parking. I don't use Bart because I can't get on it when I can't park my car. When I was building the new Hayward station I was pleased to see how large the parking lot was.

Then Management decided to take out much of the parking and build low cost housing there.

Someone commented on overpaid Bart workers. They must have gotten those ideas from the newspaper articles in the anti-union Oakland Tribune or one of the smaller regional papers it owns. They lied.
 
You couldn't pay me to commute by train aka cattle car.

I'd rather drive.

You must live where there's no traffic. Try commuting in Houston these days. Third largest city in the U.S. and no mass transit. Just miles of clogged freeways.
You couldn't pay me to commute by train aka cattle car.

I'd rather drive.

And I suspect your grandfather or his stood by the road and yelled, "get a horse" when the first automobile passed by.

Sorry but a car is more modern than a train.

Depends on where you live. It's embarrassing that the Chinese have a better transit system than any auto maker anywhere. Yup, that's Arnold in China.
schwarzenegg.jpg




Why not advance to the 21st century and advocate for something that will actually work like telecommuting?

I have been telecommuting and working remotely with clients since 1999. I am appalled at how many people still possess what is referred to as the "factory mentality" for those employees who work on computers all day long. But if a burger has to get flipped, a suit has to be dry cleaned or a tooth needs to be crowned, that's not gonna' happen through a computer.
 
A new rail system is to open next year, making the commute from northern counties into San Francisco and even (silicon valley) faster, safer, cheaper and cleaner for the environment.

See the future, and are your community leaders looking ahead, or protecting the status quo?

Smart Train North Bay Sonoma Marin SMART Sonoma Marin Area Rail Transit Passenger train and multi-use pathway project







How much of a subsidy is required to keep it going? Has BART ever turned a profit? Why are BART employees so grossly overpaid? Why are BART cops so damned bad? Has a BART cop ever done a Felony Stop? Well, I know one Sgt. who has, because my friends on the Richmond PD force MADE him do one.

BART has never turned a profit but thats OK. The point is that without BART commutes that are already bad would be complete gridlock.
Bay Area Rapid Transit - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia





Only because the Bay area refuses to do highway improvements. There are STILL freeways that have not been rebuilt after the Loma Prieta earthquake of 1989. That was a perfect opportunity to go in an do major updates and reconstruction that would have helped the commuters AND laid the groundwork for an efficient public transport system.

But no, the asshats in charge and their environmental whacko string pullers had to go and screw that up. Once again demonstrating that they really don't care about the small guy, they care about power and that is all they care about.

If you truly wanted to get rid of gridlock the only way to do that is allow the vast majority of people who work in the paper pushing enterprises to telecommute. THAT would have a significant affect on all the commutes in the world, and contribute to employee well being and quality of life.

Um, which freeways have been neglected, and which have not been rebuilt?

I live here, and call bullshit. Your first paragraph is all opinion sans facts. I can post photos of on going and completed projects related to the quake of '89 and funding via the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

Traffic is a nightmare, but not for the reasons expressed. The big problem is every county has their own public transportation system and navigating form one to another can be a headache.

Planing is in the works to reestablish a ferry system, expand BART to the east in Contra Costa County and South to San Jose; Capitol Corrider Train already moves commuters from the East Bay Counties to Sacramento Co and beyond with convenient transfers to BART, and makes convenient transfers from BART to SFO and CAL train to Santa Clara County South, the ACE Train transports commuters from San Joaquin County to San Jose (Santa Clara County) with transfers local public transportation up through Santa Clara County to San Mateo County and connecting to BART at Millbrae.

I can walk one block from my home, get a bus to BART and from there get to anywhere in the world.





What, you forget the Embarcadero? The Cypress was rebuilt as a single level instead of the double decker it used to be.. Or how about I-480? Remember that one? Demolished in 1991 but not rebuilt.

Call bullshit all you want, but it's you who are full of shit buckwheat.
 
You couldn't pay me to commute by train aka cattle car.

I'd rather drive.

You must live where there's no traffic. Try commuting in Houston these days. Third largest city in the U.S. and no mass transit. Just miles of clogged freeways.
You couldn't pay me to commute by train aka cattle car.

I'd rather drive.

And I suspect your grandfather or his stood by the road and yelled, "get a horse" when the first automobile passed by.

Sorry but a car is more modern than a train.

Depends on where you live. It's embarrassing that the Chinese have a better transit system than any auto maker anywhere. Yup, that's Arnold in China.
schwarzenegg.jpg




Why not advance to the 21st century and advocate for something that will actually work like telecommuting?

I have been telecommuting and working remotely with clients since 1999. I am appalled at how many people still possess what is referred to as the "factory mentality" for those employees who work on computers all day long. But if a burger has to get flipped, a suit has to be dry cleaned or a tooth needs to be crowned, that's not gonna' happen through a computer.





I'm glad you get to do that. And, for the record, those automated burger flippers are coming.
 
Even with it's problems we are better off with Bart than without it. But the problems were man made, the same as with the new Bay bridge.

We have Silicon Valley. But Bart management went to England, home of the worst electrical and electronic manufacturers in the world, for the computer system.

Then there is the problem of parking. The stations I can get to have woefully inadequate parking. I don't use Bart because I can't get on it when I can't park my car. When I was building the new Hayward station I was pleased to see how large the parking lot was.

Then Management decided to take out much of the parking and build low cost housing there.

Someone commented on overpaid Bart workers. They must have gotten those ideas from the newspaper articles in the anti-union Oakland Tribune or one of the smaller regional papers it owns. They lied.





Dr. Wattenberg built a computer system to run the whole thing that would have removed the vast majority of the overpaid workers. I wonder who it was that prevented that system from being implemented?:eusa_whistle::eusa_whistle:
 
Even with it's problems we are better off with Bart than without it. But the problems were man made, the same as with the new Bay bridge.

We have Silicon Valley. But Bart management went to England, home of the worst electrical and electronic manufacturers in the world, for the computer system.

Then there is the problem of parking. The stations I can get to have woefully inadequate parking. I don't use Bart because I can't get on it when I can't park my car. When I was building the new Hayward station I was pleased to see how large the parking lot was.

Then Management decided to take out much of the parking and build low cost housing there.

Someone commented on overpaid Bart workers. They must have gotten those ideas from the newspaper articles in the anti-union Oakland Tribune or one of the smaller regional papers it owns. They lied.





Dr. Wattenberg built a computer system to run the whole thing that would have removed the vast majority of the overpaid workers. I wonder who it was that prevented that system from being implemented?:eusa_whistle::eusa_whistle:

The law won't allow Bart to run fully automated.

But how would that have made workers unnecessary? And what makes you think they're overpaid?

I don't want to go zipping along on a system maintained by minimum wage workers.
 
Even with it's problems we are better off with Bart than without it. But the problems were man made, the same as with the new Bay bridge.

We have Silicon Valley. But Bart management went to England, home of the worst electrical and electronic manufacturers in the world, for the computer system.

Then there is the problem of parking. The stations I can get to have woefully inadequate parking. I don't use Bart because I can't get on it when I can't park my car. When I was building the new Hayward station I was pleased to see how large the parking lot was.

Then Management decided to take out much of the parking and build low cost housing there.

Someone commented on overpaid Bart workers. They must have gotten those ideas from the newspaper articles in the anti-union Oakland Tribune or one of the smaller regional papers it owns. They lied.





Dr. Wattenberg built a computer system to run the whole thing that would have removed the vast majority of the overpaid workers. I wonder who it was that prevented that system from being implemented?:eusa_whistle::eusa_whistle:

The law won't allow Bart to run fully automated.

But how would that have made workers unnecessary? And what makes you think they're overpaid?

I don't want to go zipping along on a system maintained by minimum wage workers.






A starting BART janitor makes 40 k a year. A ticket taker makes 40 K a year. Landscaper start higher than that. BART workers are paid 1.5 to 2 times the amount of similar workers in the private sector. Skilled labor SHOULD be paid more. Unskilled should not.

And the law needs to be changed but who is it that is preventing that?:eusa_whistle::eusa_whistle::eusa_whistle:
 
A new rail system is to open next year, making the commute from northern counties into San Francisco and even (silicon valley) faster, safer, cheaper and cleaner for the environment.

See the future, and are your community leaders looking ahead, or protecting the status quo?

Smart Train North Bay Sonoma Marin SMART Sonoma Marin Area Rail Transit Passenger train and multi-use pathway project







How much of a subsidy is required to keep it going? Has BART ever turned a profit? Why are BART employees so grossly overpaid? Why are BART cops so damned bad? Has a BART cop ever done a Felony Stop? Well, I know one Sgt. who has, because my friends on the Richmond PD force MADE him do one.

BART has never turned a profit but thats OK. The point is that without BART commutes that are already bad would be complete gridlock.
Bay Area Rapid Transit - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia





Only because the Bay area refuses to do highway improvements. There are STILL freeways that have not been rebuilt after the Loma Prieta earthquake of 1989. That was a perfect opportunity to go in an do major updates and reconstruction that would have helped the commuters AND laid the groundwork for an efficient public transport system.

But no, the asshats in charge and their environmental whacko string pullers had to go and screw that up. Once again demonstrating that they really don't care about the small guy, they care about power and that is all they care about.

If you truly wanted to get rid of gridlock the only way to do that is allow the vast majority of people who work in the paper pushing enterprises to telecommute. THAT would have a significant affect on all the commutes in the world, and contribute to employee well being and quality of life.

I agree with the telecommuting thing. The only problem is that decision is in the hands of the private sector. Personally I feel the less cars on the road... the better.





There was is a federal directive that at least 20% (that number may be higher I am going from a ten year old memory here) of their workforce MUST telecommute. They have never even come close to that number.
Must have not had any teeth.
 
Let's see how it fares financially before we call it a success, OK.

It may be cheaper for the folks using it, but even those who don't will be paying for it.

mmm, that's not true. Those who choose to drive will experience less traffic congestion and an easier drive. Most public transportation systems are not profitable, and not for profit and one hopes the vehicle (clean diseal?) will be less pollutant than the cars it replaces. Building and operating the system will create jobs too.
And the public will have to support it.
 
Let's see how it fares financially before we call it a success, OK.

It may be cheaper for the folks using it, but even those who don't will be paying for it.

mmm, that's not true. Those who choose to drive will experience less traffic congestion and an easier drive. Most public transportation systems are not profitable, and not for profit and one hopes the vehicle (clean diseal?) will be less pollutant than the cars it replaces. Building and operating the system will create jobs too.
And the public will have to support it.
Its to the publics benefit just like national parks and other things people dont always use.
 
Even with it's problems we are better off with Bart than without it. But the problems were man made, the same as with the new Bay bridge.

We have Silicon Valley. But Bart management went to England, home of the worst electrical and electronic manufacturers in the world, for the computer system.

Then there is the problem of parking. The stations I can get to have woefully inadequate parking. I don't use Bart because I can't get on it when I can't park my car. When I was building the new Hayward station I was pleased to see how large the parking lot was.

Then Management decided to take out much of the parking and build low cost housing there.

Someone commented on overpaid Bart workers. They must have gotten those ideas from the newspaper articles in the anti-union Oakland Tribune or one of the smaller regional papers it owns. They lied.





Dr. Wattenberg built a computer system to run the whole thing that would have removed the vast majority of the overpaid workers. I wonder who it was that prevented that system from being implemented?:eusa_whistle::eusa_whistle:

The law won't allow Bart to run fully automated.

But how would that have made workers unnecessary? And what makes you think they're overpaid?

I don't want to go zipping along on a system maintained by minimum wage workers.






A starting BART janitor makes 40 k a year. A ticket taker makes 40 K a year. Landscaper start higher than that. BART workers are paid 1.5 to 2 times the amount of similar workers in the private sector. Skilled labor SHOULD be paid more. Unskilled should not.

And the law needs to be changed but who is it that is preventing that?:eusa_whistle::eusa_whistle::eusa_whistle:

$40K might sound like a lot for a janitor to make. I'm not sure they do though. But How much should a man make in an area where his rent will be 15 to 25 thousand a year?
 
Even with it's problems we are better off with Bart than without it. But the problems were man made, the same as with the new Bay bridge.

We have Silicon Valley. But Bart management went to England, home of the worst electrical and electronic manufacturers in the world, for the computer system.

Then there is the problem of parking. The stations I can get to have woefully inadequate parking. I don't use Bart because I can't get on it when I can't park my car. When I was building the new Hayward station I was pleased to see how large the parking lot was.

Then Management decided to take out much of the parking and build low cost housing there.

Someone commented on overpaid Bart workers. They must have gotten those ideas from the newspaper articles in the anti-union Oakland Tribune or one of the smaller regional papers it owns. They lied.





Dr. Wattenberg built a computer system to run the whole thing that would have removed the vast majority of the overpaid workers. I wonder who it was that prevented that system from being implemented?:eusa_whistle::eusa_whistle:

The law won't allow Bart to run fully automated.

But how would that have made workers unnecessary? And what makes you think they're overpaid?

I don't want to go zipping along on a system maintained by minimum wage workers.






A starting BART janitor makes 40 k a year. A ticket taker makes 40 K a year. Landscaper start higher than that. BART workers are paid 1.5 to 2 times the amount of similar workers in the private sector. Skilled labor SHOULD be paid more. Unskilled should not.

And the law needs to be changed but who is it that is preventing that?:eusa_whistle::eusa_whistle::eusa_whistle:

$40K might sound like a lot for a janitor to make. I'm not sure they do though. But How much should a man make in an area where his rent will be 15 to 25 thousand a year?






BART should hire private companies to do that work. It saves the taxpayers money and gets the job done better. I don't know of too many janitors living in areas where their rents are that high. They tend to commute to the areas where they work. That being said a friend of mine owns about 800 rental units in San Francisco and he does set aside some for poorer folks to be able to live in the area. But he does that of his own accord. His units are not rent controlled.
 
A new rail system is to open next year, making the commute from northern counties into San Francisco and even (silicon valley) faster, safer, cheaper and cleaner for the environment.

See the future, and are your community leaders looking ahead, or protecting the status quo?

Smart Train North Bay Sonoma Marin SMART Sonoma Marin Area Rail Transit Passenger train and multi-use pathway project







How much of a subsidy is required to keep it going? Has BART ever turned a profit? Why are BART employees so grossly overpaid? Why are BART cops so damned bad? Has a BART cop ever done a Felony Stop? Well, I know one Sgt. who has, because my friends on the Richmond PD force MADE him do one.

BART has never turned a profit but thats OK. The point is that without BART commutes that are already bad would be complete gridlock.
Bay Area Rapid Transit - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia





Only because the Bay area refuses to do highway improvements. There are STILL freeways that have not been rebuilt after the Loma Prieta earthquake of 1989. That was a perfect opportunity to go in an do major updates and reconstruction that would have helped the commuters AND laid the groundwork for an efficient public transport system.

But no, the asshats in charge and their environmental whacko string pullers had to go and screw that up. Once again demonstrating that they really don't care about the small guy, they care about power and that is all they care about.

If you truly wanted to get rid of gridlock the only way to do that is allow the vast majority of people who work in the paper pushing enterprises to telecommute. THAT would have a significant affect on all the commutes in the world, and contribute to employee well being and quality of life.

Um, which freeways have been neglected, and which have not been rebuilt?

I live here, and call bullshit. Your first paragraph is all opinion sans facts. I can post photos of on going and completed projects related to the quake of '89 and funding via the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

Traffic is a nightmare, but not for the reasons expressed. The big problem is every county has their own public transportation system and navigating form one to another can be a headache.

Planing is in the works to reestablish a ferry system, expand BART to the east in Contra Costa County and South to San Jose; Capitol Corrider Train already moves commuters from the East Bay Counties to Sacramento Co and beyond with convenient transfers to BART, and makes convenient transfers from BART to SFO and CAL train to Santa Clara County South, the ACE Train transports commuters from San Joaquin County to San Jose (Santa Clara County) with transfers local public transportation up through Santa Clara County to San Mateo County and connecting to BART at Millbrae.

I can walk one block from my home, get a bus to BART and from there get to anywhere in the world.





What, you forget the Embarcadero? The Cypress was rebuilt as a single level instead of the double decker it used to be.. Or how about I-480? Remember that one? Demolished in 1991 but not rebuilt.

Call bullshit all you want, but it's you who are full of shit buckwheat.

The Embaradero Freeway was not only an eyesore, but one which puts lots of traffic onto surface streets. I'm familiar with 280, 380 580, 680, 780 & 880 - I can't recall a 480 but I'll look it up. But back to the Embarcadero Freeway, it has been replaced by the F-Street Car line, vintage street cars purchased from cities across the nation, which ties into other lines and BART. The East Bay Terminal has been demolished to make way for CAL train to enter the downtown and connect with a new subway slated to go underground from Second and Mission to Fisherman's Wharf via Chinatown and North Beach.

See 480 here below, no wonder I never heard of it, natives referred to it as the Embarcadero Freeway.

California State Route 480 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
 

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