Utilitarian
co-Cain Manager
The hearts of the people don't matter. The government matters, because that's who we'd be working with in support of them. If we can't trust the Ukrainian government, there isn't much point to working with them.Nope. But the Ukrainian people are good. Their hearts are good. I would stand with them.
there's a self proclaimed Ukrainian in this forum, Esay, he may be of different opinion, but we from Russia see it as Ukraine entering the last stage of its existence.
US forced them to break all economic ties with Russia, it absolutely destroyed Ukraine's industry.
the last hope, China - was first attracted by Ukraine and then robbed (a typical Ukrainian business behaviour) , Chinese bought wheat for a couole billion $, paid money - Ukraine did not supply it. Then Chinese invested up to 1 bln dollars in Ukraine's industry - under US pressure Ukrainian government confiscated it ( nationalized without paying compensation).
Crumbling economy does not sustain present population, everybody who can move - flees the country, up to 3 mln Ukrainians got Russian citizenship in last couple of years, 3 more settled in Europe.
In 1991 Ukraine had 54 mln people, now hardly 30 mln.
More than half of Ukrainians are Russian speakers, 20% of population are Russians, yet Russian language is artificially suppressed.
It already led to civil war and yet Ukraine is going to keep disintegrating further.
Generally, Ukraine became a failed state under US governance. There has never been an independent Ukraine up to 1991 (except German made puppet state during German occupation in WWI. And this was for a reason, everything Ukrainians get - they steal and ruine.
So, in 10 years 10-20 mln Ukrainians which will still be living in what will remain of Ukraine by then will reintegrate into Russia, willingly
but now it seems the US is going to provoke a proxi war using Ukraine. in coming months.
Is the US governing Ukraine??
of course, didn't you hear Biden bragging he fired Ukrainian general prosecutor?
SBU is said to have several floors of CIA stuff, Anerican instructors train Nazi battalions, US citizen governed Ukrainian central bank and so on,
and clearly the general course is set by the US.
US policy was for Ukraine to over come its reputation for corruption so they could attract foreign investment. Has Russia helped Ukraine?
