I am Totally Disgusted With The GOP; I am Voting for Sanders

[kaz]

Considering how many millions have died under communism and the same thing bernie is professing, is what is outrageous, despicable, abhorrent, and appalling. You can think the baby boomers for giving us this mess.

Lol, prove Sanders is a communist., I doubt you even know what communism is if you think Sanders is a commie.

roflmao

What plank of the definition of Communism, the Communist Manifesto, does the Berner oppose?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Lol, no, craven greed is what you have when an industry demands their bought and paid for politicians give them policies that increase their own profits for the quarter, but which they know will undermine their profits in the future on a much larger scale

Yet these "bought and paid for politicians" are going to make trade "fair" for you. You are making my point, thank you

Take for example over harvesting, a thing corporations do all the time. They will over fish ares for instance till the fish go extinct there, then move on to another fishing grounds. They do this with lumber in many areas and with buffalo in the 1800s, and the casinos did it too with cheating their own customers during that same time frame.

The corporations also did it with screwing over inventors, Edison's hounding of Tesla being an infamous example that he much regretted later in life, RCA screwing over Farnsworth being the other.

Today we have software engineering companies that are fucking over American software engineers in order to increase their short term profits all the time knowing that they are seeding their foreign competition for the oncoming decades and are discouraging STEM graduates here in the US with these short sighted policies.

Greed that is to the point of making people short sighted and closed minded to the harmful effects of pursuing their greed is Craven Greed.

Hope that helps bubba.

Yet, according to you, we can trust "bought and paid for politicians" to fix that. You see any flaw in your strategy?

No, dude, that is why I am saying we have to clean up the Corporate Crony Network and get it off the revolving door with the government bureaucrats that are supposed to be regulating the bastards.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Oh, how awful, that has to be stopped. You realize if we didn't, you wouldn't have so much to plunder for more government ...

When corporations are making profits by selling out the USA, you are damned right that has to be stopped.

Begging the question. And again, you trust "bought and paid for politicians" to make that determination. Classic

I wasnt ducking a question as you posed no question.

And no, I am not trusting bought and paid for politicians to do jack shit. They will be cleaned up along with the corrupt regulators.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Considering how many millions have died under communism and the same thing bernie is professing, is what is outrageous, despicable, abhorrent, and appalling. You can think the baby boomers for giving us this mess.

Lol, prove Sanders is a communist., I doubt you even know what communism is if you think Sanders is a commie.

roflmao

What plank of the definition of Communism, the Communist Manifesto, does the Berner oppose?

that is not proving that Sanders is a communist, but Sanders is against gun bans, for one, and he is for private ownership of the means of production, and not the state.

If you knew a damned thing about what Sanders is proposing you wouldnt be asking such dumbass questions.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Bernie Sanders has taken the high road in his campaign in several respects; by not accepting corporate contributions and by not attacking Clinton on her email server issues, and just leaving that to the FBI.

And despite his playing fair and with dignity, Clinton has gone after him using the influence she has in the DNC to repeatedly cheat Sanders. But he doesnt make this a main focus on his campaign, instead he keeps his focus on the issues of breaking up Wall Street banks, free tuition for college students and revising our free trade treaties to the advantage of American workers and not corporations.

I like Sanders position on these issues, and while I do not like his position on abortion and Black Lies Matter, these issues are already pegged to the far left, so him being elected wont change anything for the worse in these matters.

Sanders has the character that NOBODY ELSE IN EITHER PARTY HAS SHOWN. And h e has the intelligence and determination to be a decent President domestically. Yes, our foreign policy will suffer, but our allies have been sucking the American teet so much and wont get off that I really could not care less what happens to Europe, the Middle East Japan, Korea or anywhere else.

I am sick to death of watching Americans languish under the current corporate crony network and I am now feeling like Trump will not have a fighting chance to beat the Establishment in the GOP. Sanders is OK on gun issues, so I can support him without damaging gun rights.

Everything else aside from the economy and gun rights are of secondary importance to me.

Will Sanders suck on stopping terrorism? Yes, but not effectively more so than a GOP political whore like Cruz would do. Cruz cant even defend his own people if they become controversial as he promised he would simply fire anyone ever accused of being rough with a reporter no matter the circumstances. Cruz has gone so far into Political Correctness regarding any of Trumps fake controversies that I dont even recognize him any more, and his cheating with delegates, WTF? I dont want a man like that in the White House, I dont care what he says he will do or stand for. The man has zero integrity.


So My first preference is now Sanders and Trump is number two, and number three is a protest third party vote. I prefer Trump on the issues, but he is not very deep on them as his abortion comment revealed, and his political ground game is so weak that Cruz is ripping him off in AZ and ND, so I find myself questioning his judgement in terms of preparation and political tactics. That undermines my confidence in him in other areas as well.

Sanders has been batting 100% since he started his race. He has been solid, polite, courteous, standing up for his beliefs and taking a laser focus on the issues. He is honest, hard working and commands the factoids involved in all these issues. Though on social issues I am opposed to him across the board. The hitch is this; the GOP has done nothing of substance for social issues either. So it is a wash. Had the GOP ever actually delivered on a single one of its social issue promises, it would be a factor to consider, but since they have not, fuck them for being liars and posers. They have made one of their biggest voting draws completely irrelevant due to their apathy and inaction.

So since the issues where Sanders deltas with his GOP opponents positives are far stronger than his deltas with his weaknesses, I have to say, to be honest, I am now supporting Sanders as my primary choice, and Trump is my number two. Sanders may have a sympathetic Senate, but it doesnt matter since Republicans are trained to sit up and beg or roll over on command from the Democrats in the White House anyway. All Congressional GOP can do well is to hammer their intra-party upstarts and rebels, but they cant stand up to Democrats any more, not ever.

Ted Cruz can suck my left nut. Kasich is delusional and Clinton belongs in prison already.

Yeah, I have probably lost some friends today, and I am sorry, but we have to break the back of the Corporate Crony Network or our nation dies and Sanders is the only one left who I think can actually do it.

If the corporations still control this countries political system by 2025, I think the America I grew up in and love with all my heart, that America will be dead and gone for ever.

"Democratic presidential candidate and socialist Bernie Sanders claimed Sunday night that as a result of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s “right-wing ideology … there is no question that people will die.”

Nuttier than a Costco delivery of Nutella.

 

[kaz]

Lol, no, craven greed is what you have when an industry demands their bought and paid for politicians give them policies that increase their own profits for the quarter, but which they know will undermine their profits in the future on a much larger scale

Yet these "bought and paid for politicians" are going to make trade "fair" for you. You are making my point, thank you

Take for example over harvesting, a thing corporations do all the time. They will over fish ares for instance till the fish go extinct there, then move on to another fishing grounds. They do this with lumber in many areas and with buffalo in the 1800s, and the casinos did it too with cheating their own customers during that same time frame.

The corporations also did it with screwing over inventors, Edison's hounding of Tesla being an infamous example that he much regretted later in life, RCA screwing over Farnsworth being the other.

Today we have software engineering companies that are fucking over American software engineers in order to increase their short term profits all the time knowing that they are seeding their foreign competition for the oncoming decades and are discouraging STEM graduates here in the US with these short sighted policies.

Greed that is to the point of making people short sighted and closed minded to the harmful effects of pursuing their greed is Craven Greed.

Hope that helps bubba.

Yet, according to you, we can trust "bought and paid for politicians" to fix that. You see any flaw in your strategy?

No, dude, that is why I am saying we have to clean up the Corporate Crony Network and get it off the revolving door with the government bureaucrats that are supposed to be regulating the bastards.

There is only one way to do that. Make government smaller and take away their power to make our decisions for us. Your solution to fighting them is to give them MORE power, in this case to control healthcare and foreign trade. Explain how your plan to feed them is getting them under check

 

[kaz]

Oh, how awful, that has to be stopped. You realize if we didn't, you wouldn't have so much to plunder for more government ...

When corporations are making profits by selling out the USA, you are damned right that has to be stopped.

Begging the question. And again, you trust "bought and paid for politicians" to make that determination. Classic

I wasnt ducking a question as you posed no question.

And no, I am not trusting bought and paid for politicians to do jack shit. They will be cleaned up along with the corrupt regulators.

And HOW are you going to clean up crony capitalism while you give them power over healthcare and foreign trade?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Why I will not now or ever advocate, argue for or endorse Trump

Yeah, cant have anyon e that will slow you down from ripping off customers and gouging workers, right?

"The only problem with capitalism is the capitalists; they are too damned greedy." - Henry Ford

I want money that I earned, you want money that I earned. The greedy one is you, Holmes. Look up the definition

No, I dont want money that you have earned. I want the excess you dont need. I dont want to steal you banquet, I'm just wanting you to be responsible and instead of throwing out the left overs, why not share it with the hungry Americans you share this country with?

Why do corporate managers need to spend so much money on blowing shit up their nose and on hookers? That is where a huge slice of managerial bonuses go to, to wash away their guilty thieving conscience.

They exploit American infrastructure, our educational system and our security to create businesses in our nation that defraud, steal and shove aside any Americans they wish.

So yes, you pay your taxes like any god damned body else and then that money is used in part to make sure you bastards arent shagging the maid, stealing the silverware and looting the safe while Americans watch their fucking football games.

 

[JimBowie1958]

There is only one way to do that. Make government smaller and take away their power to make our decisions for us. Your solution to fighting them is to give them MORE power, in this case to control healthcare and foreign trade. Explain how your plan to feed them is getting them under check

Of course the government is controling foreign trade as THAT IS WHAT THE FUCKING TREATIES DO.

Shit for Shinola

 

[JimBowie1958]

And HOW are you going to clean up crony capitalism while you give them power over healthcare and foreign trade?

Duh the oversight is not going to be given to the crooks in the corporate crony network.

Catcha clue, genius.

 

[kaz]

Considering how many millions have died under communism and the same thing bernie is professing, is what is outrageous, despicable, abhorrent, and appalling. You can think the baby boomers for giving us this mess.

Lol, prove Sanders is a communist., I doubt you even know what communism is if you think Sanders is a commie.

roflmao

What plank of the definition of Communism, the Communist Manifesto, does the Berner oppose?

that is not proving that Sanders is a communist, but Sanders is against gun bans, for one, and he is for private ownership of the means of production, and not the state.

If you knew a damned thing about what Sanders is proposing you wouldnt be asking such dumbass questions.

He wants to nationalize health care, financial services, energy and restrict free trade ... but hey, he supports private ownership of production! LOL. Yeah. Oh, but he wants to extend gun right restrictions, but he doesn't want to "ban" them. Wow, what a defender of individual liberties ... not

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Considering how many millions have died under communism and the same thing bernie is professing, is what is outrageous, despicable, abhorrent, and appalling. You can think the baby boomers for giving us this mess.

Lol, prove Sanders is a communist., I doubt you even know what communism is if you think Sanders is a commie.

roflmao

I dont have to. His platform is based on the state owning everything. You wouldnt understand though. You're too busy trying to rationalize such absurd thought.

 

[kaz]

No, I dont want money that you have earned. I want the excess you dont need

As determined by you. And wow, I only earned the money I "need" I didn't earn the money I didn't? How does that work?

I dont want to steal you banquet, I'm just wanting you to be responsible and instead of throwing out the left overs, why not share it with the hungry Americans you share this country with?

Politicians are hungry? That's too bad, I feel sorry for them. And riiigggghhhtttt, it's only charity when the government does it.

Why do corporate managers need to spend so much money on blowing shit up their nose and on hookers? That is where a huge slice of managerial bonuses go to, to wash away their guilty thieving conscience.

They exploit American infrastructure, our educational system and our security to create businesses in our nation that defraud, steal and shove aside any Americans they wish.

So yes, you pay your taxes like any god damned body else and then that money is used in part to make sure you bastards arent shagging the maid, stealing the silverware and looting the safe while Americans watch their fucking football games.

Cherry picking logical fallacy

 

[kaz]

There is only one way to do that. Make government smaller and take away their power to make our decisions for us. Your solution to fighting them is to give them MORE power, in this case to control healthcare and foreign trade. Explain how your plan to feed them is getting them under check

Of course the government is controling foreign trade as THAT IS WHAT THE FUCKING TREATIES DO.

Shit for Shinola

That isn't an argument

 

[kaz]

And HOW are you going to clean up crony capitalism while you give them power over healthcare and foreign trade?

Duh the oversight is not going to be given to the crooks in the corporate crony network.

Catcha clue, genius.

No, you want oversight to go the the "bought and paid for" politicians they own ...

 

[RDD_1210]

Considering how many millions have died under communism and the same thing bernie is professing, is what is outrageous, despicable, abhorrent, and appalling. You can think the baby boomers for giving us this mess.

Lol, prove Sanders is a communist., I doubt you even know what communism is if you think Sanders is a commie.

roflmao

I dont have to. His platform is based on the state owning everything. You wouldnt understand though. You're too busy trying to rationalize such absurd thought.

It is?

I'd ask for a link providing proof of that but we both know you can't do that.

 

[Fang]

You'll vote for Sanders when the Democratic primary is in Maryland I guess. But that's about the only time. Hillary is going to win the nomination. That was decided before the election season.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

No, I dont want money that you have earned. I want the excess you dont need

As determined by you. And wow, I only earned the money I "need" I didn't earn the money I didn't? How does that work?

I dont want to steal you banquet, I'm just wanting you to be responsible and instead of throwing out the left overs, why not share it with the hungry Americans you share this country with?

Politicians are hungry? That's too bad, I feel sorry for them. And riiigggghhhtttt, it's only charity when the government does it.

Why do corporate managers need to spend so much money on blowing shit up their nose and on hookers? That is where a huge slice of managerial bonuses go to, to wash away their guilty thieving conscience.

They exploit American infrastructure, our educational system and our security to create businesses in our nation that defraud, steal and shove aside any Americans they wish.

So yes, you pay your taxes like any god damned body else and then that money is used in part to make sure you bastards arent shagging the maid, stealing the silverware and looting the safe while Americans watch their fucking football games.

Cherry picking logical fallacy

And there you have it. Theyre worthless. They want what you have and the bitterness and envy is palpable.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Considering how many millions have died under communism and the same thing bernie is professing, is what is outrageous, despicable, abhorrent, and appalling. You can think the baby boomers for giving us this mess.

Lol, prove Sanders is a communist., I doubt you even know what communism is if you think Sanders is a commie.

roflmao

I dont have to. His platform is based on the state owning everything. You wouldnt understand though. You're too busy trying to rationalize such absurd thought.

It is?

I'd ask for a link providing proof of that but we both know you can't do that.

60 percent of income and taxing in excess so the state can provide freebies is proof enough. Its disturbing that you cant even surmise the simplest of someones platform based on their past ideology and their current deducements.

 

[RDD_1210]

Considering how many millions have died under communism and the same thing bernie is professing, is what is outrageous, despicable, abhorrent, and appalling. You can think the baby boomers for giving us this mess.

Lol, prove Sanders is a communist., I doubt you even know what communism is if you think Sanders is a commie.

roflmao

I dont have to. His platform is based on the state owning everything. You wouldnt understand though. You're too busy trying to rationalize such absurd thought.

It is?

I'd ask for a link providing proof of that but we both know you can't do that.

60 percent of income and taxing in excess so the state can provide freebies is proof enough. Its disturbing that you cant even surmise the simplest of someones platform based on their past ideology and their current deducements.

I can tell you what I did deduce....you're full of shit. Just like I said.