I can see why you Trump supporters might like him.

[blackhawk]

 

[Lesh]

We can see with our own eyes that 10-14 million illegals crossed the boarder during the Biden presidency because of the executive orders that shut down Trump's executive orders. So, everything listed by your leftwing fact checkers is false.

“See with our own eyes”?

You have some really “good” eyes if you can see 14 million people half a country away

 

[Slade3200]

Let's say the fact check isn't a fraud spec as many are. Wouldn't it be fun if we played the same game with Biden. You realize how many leftists can't figure that one out? Talk about intellectual dishonesty, the poster child are Biden fans who suggest Trump is a liar.

But then again, let's not pretend leftists think for themselves, they primarily repeat what trained.

Everybody should do the same to Biden. All in power should be held to high standards. Especially when it comes to honesty and transparency.

Biden obviously has his share of problems as do most elected leaders. The level of dishonesty and manipulation that’s comes from Trump is something that I’ve never seen in my lifetime.

 

[konradv]

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Do you have a brain?!

#WASTEOFTIME

 

[gipper]

The economy? No. The border? No. Democratic Republic? No.

Wrong. They agree on the big issues. War, taxation, spending, protecting and benefiting Wall Sreet and the 1%, healthcare, homelessness, US hegemony and imperialism, Israel, Ukraine, big government, intel agencies. The border is a slight difference, but Donnie did almost nothing about the border when he was potus.

If you stop consuming corporate media, this becomes evident.

 

[gipper]

Poor terrorist supporter

Dumb as always. Why is it warmongering statists always resort to this tactic? It’s as old as human civilization. You’d think by now they’d learn, but they never learn from history. They think history began on 10/7. Lol.

 

[Billiejeens]

“See with our own eyes”?

You have some really “good” eyes if you can see 14 million people half a country away

Not everyone is deaf, dumb and blinded by your echo chamber.

 

[BlindBoo]

But to do so you have to forget about a monumental amount of water that's gone under the bridge. I don't think there's any need to delineate the list.

The other thing that's required is to assume what he says has some basis in truth. I have to say, that appears to be somewhat problematic.

FactChecking Trump’s Immigration-Related Claims in Phoenix and Las Vegas​

• Trump falsely said that a proclamation by President Joe Biden to limit asylum eligibility “establishes an annual minimum of approximately 2 million illegal alien border crossers.”
• He distorted how a mobile app for asylum appointments operated, saying it allows “free entry to be released into the United States at the push of a button.” Applicants are screened, and appointments are limited.
• Trump offered wildly exaggerated border crossing statistics. For instance, he said that in April, “border crossings were up 1,000% compared to the same month last year.” Apprehensions, which are a proxy for illegal crossings, were down by 30%. If Trump meant April 2020 instead of “last year,” that’s misleading. Apprehensions plunged that month due to the pandemic.
• He distorted reporting by the New York Times to misleadingly claim that “88,000” unaccompanied minors who came to the U.S. illegally and were processed by the Biden administration “are missing” and “many of those children are dead.”
• Trump claimed that “more drugs are coming into our country right now than at any time in our history.” Federal data for drug seizures by weight are trending down under Biden. As a proxy for drug smuggling, that data suggest that fewer drugs, not more, are coming into the country. Fentanyl seizures, however, have increased significantly under both Trump and Biden.
• Trump claimed that “300,000 people are dying a year” in the U.S. from drugs, and said the figure is “probably more than that.” A federal agency reported that there were 107,941 drug overdose deaths in 2022, and a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention researcher previously told us that any undercount “should be relatively small.”
• He falsely claimed that “virtually 100% of the new jobs under Biden have also gone to illegal aliens.” Since Biden became president in January 2021, employment of U.S.-born workers has increased more than employment of foreign-born workers, which includes those in the U.S. legally.

FactChecking Trump's Immigration-Related Claims in Phoenix and Las Vegas - FactCheck.org

Former President Donald Trump has made illegal immigration and its impact on the U.S. a focus of his campaign – but several of his talking points are wrong or misleading. Here's what we found among his immigration claims at recent events in the electoral swing states of Arizona and Nevada.

www.factcheck.org

The factual refutation of his claims are written out in great detail. I'm only asking that those who believe Trump is the right guy for the job of prez read through said refutations. See if they make sense to you before discounting them out of hand. Please don't just do the typical......"FactCheck is all garbage."

Well, he is by far the greatest Con Man America has ever produced. During a 50 year low in illegal immigrations under Obama, he was able to convince the MAGANUTS that it was an emergency of epic proportion.

 

[berg80]

"If he said it, he didn't mean it. If he meant it, you didn't understand it." You're taking the orange god completely out of context."

Really. How many times when Trump told a lie or said something idiotic did we hear the explanation as being "he was just kidding." He kids a lot.

 

[berg80]

Let's say the fact check isn't a fraud spec as many are. Wouldn't it be fun if we played the same game with Biden. You realize how many leftists can't figure that one out? Talk about intellectual dishonesty, the poster child are Biden fans who suggest Trump is a liar.

But then again, let's not pretend leftists think for themselves, they primarily repeat what trained.

You have not, and will not, find me claiming everything Biden says is factually accurate. The difference is the entire Repub belief system, starting with believers in the Big Lie, is a construct based on falsehoods.

 

[berg80]

We can see with our own eyes that 10-14 million illegals crossed the boarder during the Biden presidency because of the executive orders that shut down Trump's executive orders. So, everything listed by your leftwing fact checkers is false.

CBP One Mobile App​

The Biden administration has tried to steer those seeking asylum to an application method at legal ports of entry that requires people to sign up for a limited number of appointments through the CBP One mobile app. They are then screened at those appointments. Trump claimed that the app allows “free entry to be released into the United States at the push of a button. Pretty hard, you go like this, ‘Ding, I’m here.’ Congratulations. Welcome to America.”

That’s not how it works.

Trump also falsely said that Biden’s recent immigration proclamation “dramatically expands” the CBP One app, but it doesn’t. Appointments have been capped at 1,450 per day since last June. The Customs and Border Protection press office confirmed to us that there has been no change in the number of daily appointments available.

The CBP One app was launched in January 2023 to accept appointments for migrants who are in Mexico and want to request asylum or parole. DHS calls this “safer, humane, and more orderly” than processing between ports of entry, where migrants cross the border illegally and wait to be apprehended.

Migrants must submit information about themselves in order to get the appointment, including contact information and a photo. At the appointment, they are screened and could be subject to expedited removal, but the majority are released into the U.S. with a notice to appear in immigration court, Colleen Putzel-Kavanaugh, an associate policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan think tank that researches immigration issues, told us when we wrote about immigration in February.

As of the end of April 2024, more than 591,000 people have made appointments with the app, CBP says.

 

[Rawley]

Please don't just do the typical......"FactCheck is all garbage."

Perhaps seven years from now they'll let your cult know that everything you were told and believed was a lie.

Snopes finally admits media, Democrats were wrong about Trump

The pro-Biden media have lectured incessantly that Trump should be "fact-checked in real time." Meanwhile, the "independent fact-checkers" are hailed as saviors of democracy.

www.foxnews.com

 

[berg80]

Everybody should do the same to Biden. All in power should be held to high standards. Especially when it comes to honesty and transparency.

Biden obviously has his share of problems as do most elected leaders. The level of dishonesty and manipulation that’s comes from Trump is something that I’ve never seen in my lifetime.

This section is too long to paste all of it. I encourage you to read the rest.

Border Stats​

Trump offered some wildly exaggerated statistics on illegal border crossings in his Phoenix remarks.

He claimed that 18 million people had been allowed into the U.S. under Biden. “I think that’s the real number as of now, 18 million people.” There’s no evidence for such a figure. We asked the Trump campaign about this claim, and others cited in this article, but we didn’t receive a response.

According to data from the Office of Homeland Security Statistics, there were 6.5 million apprehensions by Border Patrol of migrants trying to cross the southern border illegally from February 2021, the month after Biden took office, to February of this year. (The figure doesn’t correspond to that same number of people because of repeat crossing attempts by the same people. For example, the recidivism rate was 27% in fiscal year 2021, according to the most recent figures from CBP.)

Over that 2021-2024 time period, there were also 923,000 “inadmissibles” who arrived at legal ports of entry but didn’t have legal permission to enter the U.S. Of those 7.4 million total encounters at the border, 2.9 million were removed by CBP and 3.2 million were released with notices to appear in immigration court or report to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the future, or other classifications, such as parole.

 

[berg80]

Perhaps seven years from now they'll let your cult know that everything you were told and believed was a lie.

I'm pretty sure most of you will go to your graves believing the vast majority of the lies Trump told.

 

[Rawley]

I'm pretty sure most of you will go to your graves believing the vast majority of the lies Trump told.

LOL Like his 50 years of corruption in Washington, the motivation your cult leader fed you for his run was one huge lie.

 

[berg80]

LOL Like his 50 years of corruption in Washington, the motivation your cult leader fed you for his run was one huge lie.

It's more than a little pathetic that you feel compelled to copycat the cult observation about Biden supporters despite anything approximating the blind devotion to a colossally incompetent, lying rapist, convicted felon, who has been found liable for tax fraud, stole from a charity, and committed adultery with a star of pornographic films shortly after his wife gave birth who is promising authoritarian governance if he is re-elected.

 

[marvin martian]

But to do so you have to forget about a monumental amount of water that's gone under the bridge. I don't think there's any need to delineate the list.

The other thing that's required is to assume what he says has some basis in truth. I have to say, that appears to be somewhat problematic.

FactChecking Trump’s Immigration-Related Claims in Phoenix and Las Vegas​

• Trump falsely said that a proclamation by President Joe Biden to limit asylum eligibility “establishes an annual minimum of approximately 2 million illegal alien border crossers.”
• He distorted how a mobile app for asylum appointments operated, saying it allows “free entry to be released into the United States at the push of a button.” Applicants are screened, and appointments are limited.
• Trump offered wildly exaggerated border crossing statistics. For instance, he said that in April, “border crossings were up 1,000% compared to the same month last year.” Apprehensions, which are a proxy for illegal crossings, were down by 30%. If Trump meant April 2020 instead of “last year,” that’s misleading. Apprehensions plunged that month due to the pandemic.
• He distorted reporting by the New York Times to misleadingly claim that “88,000” unaccompanied minors who came to the U.S. illegally and were processed by the Biden administration “are missing” and “many of those children are dead.”
• Trump claimed that “more drugs are coming into our country right now than at any time in our history.” Federal data for drug seizures by weight are trending down under Biden. As a proxy for drug smuggling, that data suggest that fewer drugs, not more, are coming into the country. Fentanyl seizures, however, have increased significantly under both Trump and Biden.
• Trump claimed that “300,000 people are dying a year” in the U.S. from drugs, and said the figure is “probably more than that.” A federal agency reported that there were 107,941 drug overdose deaths in 2022, and a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention researcher previously told us that any undercount “should be relatively small.”
• He falsely claimed that “virtually 100% of the new jobs under Biden have also gone to illegal aliens.” Since Biden became president in January 2021, employment of U.S.-born workers has increased more than employment of foreign-born workers, which includes those in the U.S. legally.

FactChecking Trump's Immigration-Related Claims in Phoenix and Las Vegas - FactCheck.org

Former President Donald Trump has made illegal immigration and its impact on the U.S. a focus of his campaign – but several of his talking points are wrong or misleading. Here's what we found among his immigration claims at recent events in the electoral swing states of Arizona and Nevada.

www.factcheck.org

The factual refutation of his claims are written out in great detail. I'm only asking that those who believe Trump is the right guy for the job of prez read through said refutations. See if they make sense to you before discounting them out of hand. Please don't just do the typical......"FactCheck is all garbage."

These are the same "fact checkers" who said Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation (a lie you repeated on this board multiple times), and that vaccinated people couldn't get or transmit covid.

You're in a cult, dude.

 

[Rawley]

It's more than a little pathetic that you feel compelled to copycat the cult observation about Biden supporters despite anything approximating the blind devotion to a colossally incompetent, lying rapist, convicted felon, who has been found liable for tax fraud, stole from a charity, and committed adultery with a star of pornographic films shortly after his wife gave birth who is promising authoritarian governance if he is re-elected.

What is pathetic is that Biden is so completely and openly compromised and incapable of performing the job, yet your cult, solely out of pure hatred for Trump, are willing to pretend that you have confidence that he can even be alive for the next four years.

 

[berg80]

These are the same "fact checkers" who said Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation (a lie you repeated on this board multiple times), and that vaccinated people couldn't get or transmit covid.

You're a liar.

 

[berg80]

What is pathetic is that Biden is so completely and openly compromised and incapable of performing the job

That is an opinion belied by the facts.